BlakGirlSoul Member since May 21st 2002 14430 posts
Fri Jan-25-08 09:48 AM
8. "Reason # 5645 why you don't like Tyler Perry" In response to Reply # 4
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11. "I mean, as tangy as Tyler is, why are his scripts so sexist?" In response to Reply # 8
His women are weak. They require strong men to come and build them up/improve their lives.
The men are all, to some degree, trifling, except for one supernaturally perfect nigga with twenty-inch arms and one of those Jesus fish decals on the back of his cars.
It's like he's stuck in the late-40s, early-50s. Or perhaps it's the influence of the traditional black church?
BlakGirlSoul Member since May 21st 2002 14430 posts
Mon Jan-28-08 10:33 AM
26. "I am not disagreeing with you" In response to Reply # 11
But that has been established back when a post about Diary of a Mad Black Woman was made We understand how you feel about TP there is no need to beat us over the head with it And as long as that dude stay making money off the black church, the movies will cintinue to be made
BlakGirlSoul Member since May 21st 2002 14430 posts
Tue Jan-29-08 08:54 AM
30. "So the purpose IS to beat people over the head?" In response to Reply # 29
I understand you express your opininon But if I hate Bobby Brown and I come on here everyday and say I hate Bobby Brown and if someone mentions the word Brown I go on a tirade about how much I hate Bobby Brown, I am pretty sure people will get tired of it i was just letting him know that we know Y'ALL don't like Tyler Perry....point taken
Doc Maestro Member since May 12th 2005 10391 posts
Fri Jan-25-08 01:58 AM
6. "also, simletaneously releasin a film + tourin stage prod. = major bank" In response to Reply # 0
has he done this yet? like, of the same movie.
it'd be better even if it was all new material. they film the best one of the stage production and then put it out on DVD in time for the release of the film's DVD release.
17. "the "gee, why are you so critical? where's YOUR movie?" response." In response to Reply # 16
something I'd expect from a teenager, not an adult.
Me, Nick, or anyone else criticizing TP don't need to write, direct, etc. a film of our own in order to critique him: there are hundreds of filmmakers who have already outdone and will continue to outdo Tyler Perry.
That's like saying I have to be able to sing like Marvin Gaye in order to say that Britney Spears or Ciara can't carry a tune without Melodyne's assistance.
yeah u got me! but a claim was made that what TP does is so easy and that does require as we say on OKP, the mandate. thanks for taking the time to respond though.
23. "For the upteenth consecutive time, a lot people really like this shit?" In response to Reply # 0 Sun Jan-27-08 07:04 PM by TheRealBillyOcean
I just don't get the appeal of anything this dude does. From the plays to the sitcom to the movies.
There are shitloads of black movies sitting in Blockbuster on some straight to video, that nobody watches, but this dude has a loyal fanbase that checks for all his shit. Like not too many folks will go to catch "Akeelah and the Bee", but watch one of his piece of shit films. Someone explain this to me, his popularity that is.
41. "cuz "modern" af-am's act like the black church enslaved & brainwashed" In response to Reply # 40 Tue Jan-29-08 11:32 PM by fire
them, meanwhile, they READILY work in or want to work for institutions that made money off the backs of black slaves. or go to schools that wouldn't even allow them to do anything besides work in the cafeteria up until the 60's. i'm tired of the "lets praise everything that doesn't make yt like us" attitude of "some" black people.
and no my sentiments aren't directed TO nukkapedia specifically, i'm tired of folks shitting on blk institutions.
42. "yeah, it's a part of almost all of our legacies/lives" In response to Reply # 37 Wed Jan-30-08 01:25 AM by Nukkapedia
but I'm specifically referring to the fact that Tyler Perry caters to the black church demographic; that is, the black church community. I was explaining to TheRealBillyOcean that this is Tyler Perry's target audience, so that he better understands what part of the population these films are aimed at.
The prevalence of the black church in the legacies/early lives of black people who, at this present time, are not part of the black Protestant church community, is irrelevant to the point I'm making.
“No one knew who I was except the director, and I loved it. I’m self-taught and a real sponge—I always want to learn more about the business, so I started asking the art director questions. He had no idea who I was, so he went home and Googled me. And he came back the next day and said, ‘I can’t believe you were asking me those questions.’ ”
I can!
*edit* and saying that "Diary of a Mad Black Woman" opened to "mixed reviews" is very much sugar-coating.
45. "isn't he cross-promoting this movie with his tv show?" In response to Reply # 0
that's smart. not sure if that's ever been done before.
i'm really trying to wrap my head around why i'm so annoyed with this dude. i mean, he's terrible at what he does, but so are a lot of other people (besides "Boyz", i hate John Singleton's work, too).
i think a lot of it has to do with the fact that his stuff is just *weird*.
i was trying to watch "House of Payne" the other night, and beyond just the horrible fake laugh track and terrible improv, there was a scene where the mother stumbles out of the kitchen speaking in tongues. there's no foreshadowing, explaining why she would do that or any reaction from other characters...it's just a fat stereotype speaking in tongues for about 5-6 seconds. it was a perfect example of why i'm so baffled by his work...he basically just throws shit together that *kinda* makes sense to him and there's no other process for refining/improving.
46. "I think it's that Perry has such dedicated fans who swear by his" In response to Reply # 45
stuff.
I don't think you'll have arguments with most folks where one side is trying to convince the other that "Meet the Spartans" is art. With Tyler Perry, though...
One big issue, of course, is that there are so few Black films coming out of Hollywood. A lot of people give Perry respect, regardless of the quality of his output, for the simple fact that he's a black man directing, writing, and producing his own films outside of the major studio system (I half-expect someone to run up and call him the 21st century's answer to Oscar Michaeaux, although this would be a fallacy on a number of levels). I, myself, am not one of those people, because I just don't feel the work that's coming out of this particular self-sufficient system warrants much praise (indeed, the only person I know outside of OKP who disagrees with me is my mother).
It's a lot like the people who buy 50 Cent and Britney Spears records; either they don't have better material to compare the stuff to, or they do but don't care. That's how I see it, at least.
47. "he makes black disney movies over and over again -" In response to Reply # 0
what's the problem?
i always say, its one thing to say 'eh, not my cup of tea', but these posts almost immdeately descend into somebody who doesn't like tyler perry movies indicting large groups of black folks who do....
51. "With all the hate I have to admit" In response to Reply # 0
Dude runs a well organized and efficient operation that continues to grow and put a lot of Black actors, script writers, sound technicians, ect to work here in Atlanta.. He's building a soundstage in the SWATS and getting more Black people gainfully employed at being performing artist..
I watched "Why Did I Get Married" and enjoyed it, and yeah I think most of his movies, plays, and TV show is ass but I still attempt to support the man, for most importantly the reasons listed above..
He has his niche demographics he caters to and who support him (and it's not just Black church folks either) They were underserved and ignored and Mr. Perry capitalized and more power to the brother.
Spike Lee just donated $350,000 to my and his alma couple that with Rainforest (who has gotten much better) and Dallas Austin and ATL will be lockin down Black films for a minute and I'm proud.
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