http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809870043/trailer

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Went to the shelf
and dusted off the A.K.

I plan to make people feel bad for seeing TP's movie and not seeing this one.

Talk To Me had just reached my home theater the week Why Did I Get Married came out and all I could do was SMH on that. There were only 3 black people watching Talk To Me including myself--and it played before WDIGM. But when you bring that movie up all you hear is "Ooh yeah--I've been meaning to see that." SMH.

However, I must say this--I'm 100% sure that the studio will not give The Great Debaters the same chance Lionsgate extends to all of TP's movies.



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he ain't putting his faith in the hands of the studios when it comes to promoting his projects. To do so would be foolish.

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Tyler Perry makes sure the word gets out about his movies. Lionsgate actually does a decent job as far as promoting. I've seen all of TP's trailers floating around BET and plenty other channels. But the reason they'll actually do that for him is because his comedies are practically guaranteed to turn a decent profit.

These other black filmmakers really should get their films out there. It would've been dope if Kasi Lemmons made more of an effort to get channels like BET and TVOne involved for Talk To Me. The studio really dropped the ball on that one.


"Being the bigger man is overrated." -- Huey (The Boondocks)

"But today's black leaders, I'm afraid, have become leading blacks. And don't ever confuse leading blacks with black leaders." --Dr. Julia Hare.



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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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Looks good and with Denzel, Forest and Journee Smollett

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I could use a black inspirational movie right about now.
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I know it's obvious, but Movies like these are so inspiring for "our" folk...

We also need to have MORE movies with multiple "name" black actors. Those movies are so few and far between.


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my thoughts,

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i'm there

i can't wait to see journee deliver that one speech tho
(0:54)

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looks like she gets to let loose in this on an eve's bayou level. can't wait. with the right roles, that girls could get *some* oscars (yes, plural) and i'm not hyperbolizin' with that.

movie.

no doubt i'll see it, but this needs it own sub-genre by now.

its like dead poet's society meets remember the titans meets glory road

and this list goes on
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Make your money/connections with the big budget fare which allows you to make movies you want to make. No way this movie has a prayer of getting made without Denzel putting his full weight behind it. A period film about debate?

And he also made a good move by making his next directoral venture the Sammy Davis Jr. project with Brian Grazer. Get hooked up with a big time producer and find a project that can make some money.

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was also behind this movie.

and it definately doesnt hurt that his ditrectoral debut as actually a great movie

to the Jurnee countdown site?

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Sold Not Told, player

*deletes "Jurnee's Sweet Sweet Bayou" web materials*
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she might be on deck for being one of the baddest

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Not that I knew or anything.

*looks around*

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i like her.

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Not only does it look great, but I love debate.

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looks good

and ol Jerney from eves bayou is quietly becoming a hottie

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Im trippin' that one dude's name is Denzel Whitaker NO RELATION!!!

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GREAT MOVIE ! I LOVED IT

It was great to see the film on a personal level because I grew up around the area and did some work at Wiley. A friend dropped the screenplay on me a few months ago, and I got some idea it might be something special. Or, that it could be a bit over the top, which only really came up a couple of times.

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I think this film's professed themes are far too important to Hollywood-ize it too much. Case in point: don't change USC to Harvard because it seems more prestigious or whatever. Keep it more or less accurate, so far as the events presented.

How can a fictional character (Booke) have a title card at the close of the film alongside Farmer's? Why don't they mention that Farmer served in the leadership of a Socialist organization but later served in the Nixon Administration? (Okay, I understand why you leave that off the resume)

Also, IIRC, but wasn't Tolson part of the clique that didn't care too much for Zora Neale Hurston? Then why does he name-drop her? I guess it's a name people would respond to now, but why include it if the issues are not so cut and dried?

And why do they gloss over the role of the Communist party? A woman next to me in the theater was frontin like she recognized the Langston Hughes quotes then started clucking when they accused Tolson of being a Communist. Tolson was a Communist. Hughes was a Communist. So were many many other people in this era. Please don't whitewash it, because we could really use some perspective on politically viable options open to us.

Finally, Willie Lynch!!! Need I say more about this? The integrity of the film absolutely cannot withstand the presentation of Willie Lynch as fact, especially in such a rhetorically powerful part of the film. I read a review that mentioned a discussion panel where some of the film's stars were defending the Willie Lynch speech as true. Please. Stop. Now.

Don't get me wrong. I loved the film, but it comes dangerously close to becoming a popcorn flick once this damage is done. If it's a popcorn flick, the film's messages about civil disobedience, resistance, revolution, social welfare, etc are lost, and its moral lessons are reduced to "lynching was bad, inequality was bad, now aren't we glad we've come so far?"

but what can you expect, Oprah's on ......

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I really couldn't dig the historical inaccuracies either. But the fact that they did deal with the sharecropper's unions and the Communist aspect was shocking, considering that this was "a black film." Usually, these films show blacks appealing to the morality of whites. But that aspect gave it a Richard Wright feel (see short stories like "Morning Star"), who suggest that blacks joined these socialist like unions because they, with good reason, lacked faith in white good will and the establishment. Although I wasn't necessarily moved by Negroes proving they were as good as whites, considering the 1930s, you would have to admire their courage and the inspiration they must have provided other people.

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is that it wasn't proven to be false until recently. Right?

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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

the hoax didn't exist until damn near 30 years after the movie was supposed to take place.

He may as well have quoted MLK's I have a dream speech.

Fun is the new gritty

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i did not know about the location changes

i did not know there were fictional added debators

but i kind of expect that stuff from hollywood w/ docudramas at this point

some of the stuff about farmer you mention would have made his post-film 'summary' take up the whole screen instead of a few sentences. lol. you know, brevity is usu. the rule w/ the post-film 'after this, x did y' credit sequence

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Am I the only one who thought there was something oddly beautiful about how the train went into the woods? There's just something about how that looked.

That wasn't half-CG was it?
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Was that CG or real? If it was a real shot then that's one of the best shots I've seen in a movie all year.
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"Being the bigger man is overrated." -- Huey (The Boondocks)

It is one of those movies, like Akeelah and the Bee, that you would not mind seeing over and over again. It should have been entitled, "Back When We Had Dignity".

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Oooo baby I like it raw. Oooo baby I like it RAAAW!(c)ODB- Shimmy Shimmy Ya

This was a real good movie. This one was for BigNick and all the other black movie haters up in here.

Take that!

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"No pretentiousness.

No pompous re-interpretations.

Sometimes, a movie is just a movie. You work hard for your money.

The decision is yours.

See and enjoy what YOU like."

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

a general opinion on black films from someone who admittedly doesn't see all of the black films he judges carries little weight.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

The ones that I've seen of that lot, bear that out. And I've seen my fair share of both high brown and low.

we have nothing to discuss

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

Some of it happens to be Black crud.

http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/greatdebaters

but that movie wasn't worth seeing...

yet, some of us activists were up in arms about that indifference from some of our...brothas.


mmmmhuh

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

The end.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

Denzel and Ope..at the helm..

I should have already had an idea of what I was about to "feel".
Anybody with any knowledge of "black american history" would have went through a range of emotions in the theater...never mind being able to finish lines of dialogue..just based on what it was..and what we now know.

I was inspired, and the kids got quiet..after 30 mins..that says volumes yo..

Peace..we need more..



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on opening night. still plan to see it before it leaves the theatres.

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Because The Great Debaters was there on Christmas Day. The teenagers didn't come out though because they wanted to see AVP-R.

SMH. Watch how exactly one person will wonder where all the black movies are in February.
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I decided to skip that one even though I really loved the trailer.
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Go see it!!!! Please support.

I cried three times..for some crazy reason.
I guess I was just really inspired.
We definitely need more movies like this.
Young folks don't understand how back in the
day black people had to FIGHT for an education and
WANTED to learn or at least wanted the opportunity to show
that they were just as smart and capable as their white counterparts.

My eyes watered a few times ...
Too bad it's only playing in one theater in Toronto
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the great debaters was for the most part on point. i agree with some of the earlier post about the historical inaccuracies, also, the speech at the end by the kid playing james farmer jr. was anti climactic. but overall. it was dope. and that nigga nate parker is FINE as hell.

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but ultimately was a well-done history lesson, if not as memorable as it could have been.

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The Dreat Debaters is a well executed film. However i still thought Denzel's directorial debut, Antwone Fisher was better.
I was extremely turned of by the Willie Lynch content. We ain't done with that shit yet? But we should know what to expect from the Queen of the forked tongue who served as executive producer. I mean the film was kinda like a PBS special you would see during Febuary. Just not very memorable in my opinion.