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"Gone Baby Gone"
Thu Dec-06-07 02:13 AM by ZooTown74

  

          

It's getting really good reviews so far from what I've read.

I'm reading a lot of stuff like this:

"Ben Affleck’s directorial debut is a full-scale triumph, one that quickly makes filmgoers realize that the actor who has often been mocked for his choices of acting projects — “Daredevil,” “Reindeer Games” and, of course, “Gigli” — has found his real strength behind the camera."

  

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Definitely, but not this weekend
Oct 18th 2007
1
I'm really just looking forward to the local feel of it
Oct 18th 2007
4
      The shot at one of my old dives
Oct 24th 2007
24
           What Spot?
Oct 24th 2007
26
                Murphy's Law
Oct 24th 2007
27
i want to... but i probably won't.
Oct 18th 2007
2
Already seen it. It was cool.
Oct 18th 2007
3
I saw it and was shocked at how good it was
Oct 18th 2007
5
After seeing the Jesse James flick its at the top of my list
Oct 18th 2007
6
Yup
Oct 18th 2007
7
Yep
Oct 19th 2007
8
Yeah. This is a big weekend
Oct 19th 2007
9
Why I do Believe this is my first Anchored Reviews post
Oct 19th 2007
10
i loved the novel.
Oct 19th 2007
11
RE: i loved the novel.
Oct 20th 2007
12
Finally finished the novel
Dec 25th 2007
37
Hold up . . . directed by Ben Affleck?
Oct 20th 2007
13
Yep...
Oct 21st 2007
14
It was pretty darn good.
Oct 22nd 2007
15
did this movie open in limited release or something?
Oct 22nd 2007
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It's this years "The Departed"
Oct 22nd 2007
17
Exactly what I came to say
Oct 23rd 2007
21
I really liked it
Oct 22nd 2007
18
Saw it this weekend...
Oct 22nd 2007
19
One of the better movies i've seen this year.
Oct 22nd 2007
20
I liked it a lot.
Oct 23rd 2007
22
Didn't know it took place in Dorchester....talk about your toilets lol
Oct 24th 2007
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      RE: Didn't know it took place in Dorchester....talk about your toilets l...
Oct 24th 2007
28
           lol sorry, I'm just sayin
Oct 25th 2007
30
My review...
Oct 23rd 2007
23
that ending was kinda gut-wrenching.
Oct 25th 2007
29
Solid
Oct 26th 2007
31
I can't believe this shit is getting so massively co-signed
Mar 01st 2008
57
Finally saw it yesterday, really, really liked it (spoilers...like it ma...
Nov 19th 2007
32
finally saw it tonight
Dec 06th 2007
33
RE: Gone Baby Gone
Dec 14th 2007
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RE: Clearly
Dec 14th 2007
35
Just saw it. This is a very good movie.
Dec 25th 2007
36
saw it. loved it. ? for movie heads
Feb 11th 2008
38
Don't know if this had anything to do with it but...
Feb 11th 2008
39
I thought she was good
Feb 11th 2008
40
      they do all follow the leader.
Feb 11th 2008
41
In a way, people are acknowledging the movie through her performance
Feb 11th 2008
42
      ^^^Cosign all of this
Feb 11th 2008
44
Out on DVD tomorrow. Finally get to peep it.
Feb 11th 2008
43
cosign, I may get this tonight.
Feb 12th 2008
46
Most of these characters were not believable.
Feb 12th 2008
45
RE: Most of these characters were not believable.
Feb 12th 2008
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      RE: Most of these characters were not believable.
Feb 12th 2008
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      Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine (c)Billy Madison
Feb 14th 2008
50
           ha . . . may God have mercy on Ben Affleck's soul?
Feb 15th 2008
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                I think he already did by putting him behind the camera this time
Feb 15th 2008
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      RE: Most of these characters were not believable.
Feb 14th 2008
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           I think you have a different point of view on this than most
Oct 16th 2009
70
Loved it!!
Feb 29th 2008
53
he did what he thought was right
Feb 29th 2008
54
GOOD movie...
Feb 29th 2008
55
I dunno how many more of these well-acted but overall mediocre
Mar 01st 2008
56
RE: Ben hits a home run
Mar 05th 2008
58
that's a slight stretch
Mar 05th 2008
59
Great movie
Mar 06th 2008
60
Very very nice
Mar 08th 2008
61
I definitely enjoyed it
Mar 15th 2008
62
RE: I definitely enjoyed it
Mar 17th 2008
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      In the end the right choice is the "wrong" choice and casey knew that
Mar 17th 2008
65
finally saw it last night, great movie, good acting, good directing
Mar 15th 2008
63
just got it from NetFlix
Nov 05th 2008
66
Just watched this again
Jan 30th 2009
67
Ive rewatched this a dozen times...
Oct 16th 2009
68
RE: Ive rewatched this a dozen times...
Oct 16th 2009
69
Which one son?
Oct 16th 2009
72
I slept on this one but just seen it earlier this year and its
Oct 16th 2009
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1. "Definitely, but not this weekend"
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I can't wait though. A Boston set movie with Freeman and Harris, and more importantly, Michael K. Williams and Amy Ryan.

And Lehane's such a great writer, I'm really pumped to see this.

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4. "I'm really just looking forward to the local feel of it"
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the neighborhoods, the dives etc

I love that Boston is becoming *THE* place to make movies now, especially when they are actually set here and feature local feel

  

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24. "The shot at one of my old dives"
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>the neighborhoods, the dives etc


Excited to see that on film

  

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26. "What Spot?"
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27. "Murphy's Law"
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2. "i want to... but i probably won't."
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still, i hope it does well... i'm really rooting for Affleck here.

(especially since he's said that if this movie is successful, he'll probably stop acting)

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3. "Already seen it. It was cool."
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The only problem I had was buying babyfaced (*pause*) Casey Affleck as the investigator

But besides that, it was fine. Amy Ryan was solid, and Morgan was there to give you the usual gravitas

I'd give it a B
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5. "I saw it and was shocked at how good it was"
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I'll have a review up tomorrow.

  

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6. "After seeing the Jesse James flick its at the top of my list"
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7. "Yup"
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I wanna finish reading the book first (or START reading the book-want to do it in a week and see it next weekend), then I'll go check it out.

*shrugs*

  

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8. "Yep"
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I liked the book. Have to go.

  

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9. "Yeah. This is a big weekend"
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Gone Baby Gone and I'm probably going to see Rendition and 30 Days of Night. And I still need to see Eastern Promises.

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10. "Why I do Believe this is my first Anchored Reviews post"
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Probably gonna try and catch it on sunday myself

  

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11. "i loved the novel."
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i'm def going to see this.

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12. "RE: i loved the novel."
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I got ambitious and got the novel last weekend in hopes of reading before this weekend. I lost that battle.

I went ahead and saw the film though. It was well made, well acted, and well plotted. I like how B. Affleck mixed well known and unknown faces in the cast.

  

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37. "Finally finished the novel"
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while I've been off. The flick was dope, but I liked the novel better. I'll be backtracking to read the earlier series entries.

  

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13. "Hold up . . . directed by Ben Affleck?"
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Hmmm

  

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14. "Yep..."
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next weekend. I want to see Halle Berry's The Things We Lost in the Fire as well.

  

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15. "It was pretty darn good."
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Well acted and plotted. I'm a sucker for mystery/thrillers, and I appreciated that this one tried to do a little extra. The writing and the direction got a little sloppy towards the end, but all the stuff in the first parts of it, establishing the seedy underbelly of working-class Boston, was quite well done. And I could dig the overall theme of learning to live with your actions.

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16. "did this movie open in limited release or something?"
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after all the buzz, i was expecting it to do pretty well, but it's like Good Luck Chuck opened better than it and shit...


now i feel kinda bad for not going out and supporting it.

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17. "It's this years "The Departed""
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It was surprisingly great. The only drawback...the excessive flashbacks.

  

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21. "Exactly what I came to say"
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>It was surprisingly great. The only drawback...the excessive
>flashbacks.

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18. "I really liked it"
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Caught it before watching Game 6 and it was the perfect distraction. Reading the book takes away a certain element obviously but Affleck captured the mood of Boston much better than Scorcese. Much better.

  

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19. "Saw it this weekend..."
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...and it was really good. It was really great to see a Boston-based film actually shot here in real locales where I grew up.

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20. "One of the better movies i've seen this year."
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Ben came through whoda thought.

  

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22. "I liked it a lot."
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This review pretty much sums up how I feel about it:

http://www.tnr.com/booksarts/story.html?id=7645d83c-9936-4909-9083-cc49fd13614b

THE NEW REPUBLIC
Affleck's Redemption
by Christopher Orr

Gone Baby Gone begins, simply--if horribly--enough with the taking of a little girl. Four-year-old Amanda McCready is plucked from her bed in Boston's working-class Dorchester neighborhood one night while her mother, Helene (Amy Ryan), is apparently at a neighbor's house watching television. The police undertake a massive hunt for Amanda, but their efforts are not enough for the little girl's aunt (Amy Madigan), who seeks out private eyes Patrick Kenzie (Casey Affleck) and Angie Gennaro (Michelle Monaghan) to help with the investigation. "Do you know people in the neighborhood who don't talk to the police?" she asks Kenzie. "Yeah, one or two," he answers.

When Kenzie starts talking to these people, he learns that Helene was not, in fact, at a neighbor's when her little girl was snatched. She was doing coke in the bathroom of a local dive with her heel of a boyfriend. Indeed, Amanda may have been taken by people who know Helene and want something from her. Convolutions begin to unfurl: Was Amanda abducted by a drug dealer known as "Cheese"? What might her family really know about the kidnapping? And the central question, running through the film like a vein: Is Amanda alive or dead?

Gone Baby Gone is famously directed by the (for now) more famous Affleck brother, Ben. It's his first effort behind the lens since a satirical short he made in college entitled I Killed My Lesbian Wife, Hung Her on a Meat Hook, and Now I Have a Three-Picture Deal at Disney, and his inexperience shows in a variety of ways. His visual eye is underdeveloped, for instance, and his storytelling lags now and then, especially during an awkward voiceover which connects the film's first and second acts. Yet, miraculously enough, Affleck's strengths as a director far outweigh his weaknesses. Gone Baby Gone is a thoughtful, serious film, whose strong moral undercurrents carry it beyond mere genre.

The movie's first real surprise is its backdrop of white urban poverty and pathology. It's a reality we rarely see on the big screen, where portraits of community dysfunction are carefully segregated into dark-skinned, inner-city gangstas and rural white trash. Affleck descends into caricature on occasion (in particular, when Kenzie and Gennaro enter a dingy bar and encounter what appears to be the cast of Deliverance) and the squawking Boston accents sometimes overshoot the mark. But, for the most part, Affleck convincingly captures the diminished dreams and dark suspicions of the city's white underclass, some of whom are barely making it--for instance, Amanda's ex-con, ex-alcoholic uncle (Titus Welliver)--and some of whom are not making it at all.

Amanda's mother, Helene, is in the latter category. Rude, stupid, and flawless in her self-absorption, she is one of the more repellant figures to appear onscreen this year, a walking manifesto for why some people shouldn't be allowed to raise children. This is a woman whose eagerness to locate her stolen daughter is frequently displaced by her eagerness to locate a fresh six-pack. Yet if the film portrays her without pity, it also does so without contempt. Even as his partner, Gennaro, voices her (and the audience's) disgust with this maternal monster, Kenzie, the movie's unlikely conscience, treats her with a certain protectiveness. He never says "There but for the grace of God ...," but nearly everything in his manner conveys it. These are his people, warts and all.

Casey Affleck is an odd choice to play the street-smart Kenzie: The Dorchester his brother has conjured up looks as though it would have scrubbed the boyishness from Casey's face by the time he hit his mid-teens. But, while his performance isn't as indelible as his turn in The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, it's more than capable. His Kenzie is a quiet, thoughtful young man, whose outsized sense of moral probity, gradually revealed, never quite crosses over into overt judgmentalism.

The rest of the cast is comparably strong. Monaghan, who had terribly underwritten parts in M:i:III and The Heartbreak Kid following her breakthrough in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, gets a little more to do as Kenzie's professional and romantic partner, though still not nearly enough. Morgan Freeman displays his typical avuncular genius as the head of a police unit specializing in crimes against children, and Ed Harris is fierce yet subtle as the cop with whom Kenzie and Gennaro work most closely. Just as important, Affleck the Elder gets strong, persuasive performances from supporting players such as Madigan, Welliver, and (especially) Ryan.

As with so many detective tales of the hard-boiled Chandler school, Gone Baby Gone, based on the novel by Dennis Lehane, is an overly complicated journey to a somewhat dubious destination. In Mystic River (also based on a Lehane novel), the disparate narrative threads were made to align thanks to the inclusion of a purely irrational character, a psycho ex machina; in Gone Baby Gone, a conspiracy of untrammeled unlikelihood fulfills the same purpose. Yet even as the script--which Affleck co-wrote with longtime friend Aaron Stockard--stumbles now and then in terms of narrative logic, it carefully sets in place the elements of a genuine moral quandary, one from which Affleck does not shy away.

Though Gone Baby Gone shares with Mystic River the usual Lehanian touches--the Dorchester setting, the hard-bitten cops, the imperiled children--in the end, the Clint Eastwood movie it resembles most closely is Million Dollar Baby, another film that concludes with a ruthless ethical dilemma. But where Eastwood meticulously stacked the deck to cast Frankie Dunn's ultimate decision in the most flattering light possible, Affleck bravely does the reverse, conditioning the audience to anticipate one outcome and then offering another far less tidy. This is a film in which the difficult choices truly are difficult, and a solution that makes a problem seem to go away is not necessarily the right solution. In its way, Gone Baby Gone is an argument for obligation over accommodation, the absolute over the contingent. But it's also an implicit defense of people like the downscale denizens of Dorchester, wretched and irresponsible though they might sometimes be, from the easy biases of those with better, more comfortable lives. I found the conclusion of the film deeply morally unsatisfying, as I suspect most viewers will. But that, I think, is exactly the point.

CHRISTOPHER ORR is a senior editor at The New Republic.

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25. "Didn't know it took place in Dorchester....talk about your toilets lol"
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I have an uncle that lives there, and his accent is like nails on a chalkboard lol

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28. "RE: Didn't know it took place in Dorchester....talk about your toilets l..."
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Watch it chico, you're talkin' about my hometown. lol

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30. "lol sorry, I'm just sayin"
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Dorchester is kinda raw.

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23. "My review..."
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http://www.nervepop.com/filmlounge/review/gonebabygone/index.aspx

  

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29. "that ending was kinda gut-wrenching."
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you want it to be one way... but it's the other way (c) marlow.

that's all i can say without spoilers.

well-done piece of film, and casey affleck was really surprising. ed harris nailed his part, and michelle monaghan did a great job as well. i still haven't decided if i liked this or mystic river better.

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31. "Solid"
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Not great but a decent enough movie. It definitely was hurt by the "This guy is seems too big to take such a small role" problem so a lot of the twists were predictable.

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57. "I can't believe this shit is getting so massively co-signed"
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(reads Jesse James post again)

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32. "Finally saw it yesterday, really, really liked it (spoilers...like it ma..."
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I loved the authenticity of it. It's the Boston I've seen and I've come to know...it felt real.

I agree that the flashbacks were a little too much at times, but I'm gonna say I'm liking Affleck as director. He definitely showed me more there than he has in about 90% of his acting roles.

Amy Ryan is a really good actress. I'd say the first time I saw her, I thought 'Beadie Russell,' and by the end of her first scene, I was thiking, 'Damn, Helene is a bitch.' I really liked Titus Welliver too...he did the Boston accent pretty well and ever since Deadwood, I really like watching the dude.

Michael K. Williams didn't have a lot to do, but I liked his small part.

And I loved how dark it was. It felt rough the entire time, and it certainly didn't leave you with a nice, happy resolution. Knowing that Patrick was gonna have to spend parts of the rest of his life making sure this little girl doesn't end up totally fucked is pretty heavy, as is knowing that while he may have made the 'right' choice in one sense, it's not the easiest or even best choice.

I can't wait to read the book now, and frankly, knowing how much I love Pelecanos, The Wire, Mystic River (book and film)...it's about time I start reading all of Lehane's stuff. (Then I'll have to get to Richard Price)

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33. "finally saw it tonight"
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I think they could have ended it before the ending, but ending it was okay too.

The only thing I may have done, to add more of the "Moral Quandary" aspect, is to play out more of Affleck's rebuttal to Freeman's speech at the end.

Strong film.

And side note, all them fat people at the front end of the flick, has me hitting the gym post haste.

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34. "RE: Gone Baby Gone"
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really enjoyed this one. sad as hell. but there is a fabulous scene where the tension is turned up to 10!

  

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he made the wrong d*#n decision. CLEARLY.

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36. "Just saw it. This is a very good movie."
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I have a new respect for Affleck.

I really liked how the film forced the viewer to examine morality as the characters did.

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38. "saw it. loved it. ? for movie heads"
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Why is Amy Ryan getting nominated at EVERY award show?? She was solid in this and it was a true "supporting role" but honestly of all the really good movies that came out this year she was nominated at like 40 different award shows according to IMDB yet no love for Casey Affleck at any of them or for Ed Harris for a supporting role?

I really liked this movie and I thought Affleck was great and Ed Harris was PERFECT I thought... but I wasnt blown away by Amy Ryan's crackhead mother at all... its the same character on every drama on tv that is seen all the time...

  

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39. "Don't know if this had anything to do with it but..."
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She played the role of Boston trash perfectly. I live right near the projects where she is supposed to be from and I can think of a bunch of girls that match her perfectly.

I thought she was amazing.

  

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40. "I thought she was good"
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it's more just saying that literally every award show has nominated her but the movie has gotten no other nom's at any award shows, its like they all follow the leader. thanks for reply though...

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42. "In a way, people are acknowledging the movie through her performance"
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This is all my opinion, so take it with a grain of salt

But I think that the other categories are so crowded, and Ben Affleck did such a nice job co-writing and directing the movie, that people want to give it something, so they rewarded Amy Ryan

Not to say that she didn't deserve a nomination, not at all, but her performance DOES stand out above all others in the film (it's the showiest role in the movie and she did a great job with it)

And if I had a nomination to give to Casey Affleck I would have done the same thing the Academy did and reward him for his work in The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, because arguably it's the harder role and he pulled it off very well

Not to mention it's the same way voters can acknowledge the respect they have for that film
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44. "^^^Cosign all of this"
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45. "Most of these characters were not believable."
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Amy Ryan, her performance and character, acquitted herself w/out problem.

The younger Affleck needs a gallon of adrenaline added to his system, because how am I supposed to think his character believes one way or another about anything if his performance is so nonchalant / apathetic. His girl? Woefully underdeveloped.

Ed Harris was intense, but that's Ed Harris being Ed Harris. There's wasn't much else there. Would he be so stupid? Sure, he's been a dirty cop in the past, but his actions felt more written than realistic.

Oh, and it's cool that Morgan Freeman was allowed to buck his recent typecasting, but, again, I didn't buy his character doing what he did.

The older Affleck needs to learn how to handle scenes with more than three talking parts a little more smoothly. Maybe some long shots, Ben.

And that red herring, surprise around every plot turn bitter taste Mystic River left with me was unfortunately revisited. Gone Baby Gone doesn't think of itself so highly and is rendered with a bit more smarts, so that was good, relatively, at least.

  

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47. "RE: Most of these characters were not believable."
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>Amy Ryan, her performance and character, acquitted herself
>w/out problem.
>
>The younger Affleck needs a gallon of adrenaline added to his
>system, because how am I supposed to think his character
>believes one way or another about anything if his performance
>is so nonchalant / apathetic.

You didn't like how he punked those guys in that 1st bar he went to?

His girl? Woefully
>underdeveloped.

Agreeed. I could've done w/o her character in this.

>Ed Harris was intense, but that's Ed Harris being Ed Harris.
>There's wasn't much else there. Would he be so stupid? Sure,
>he's been a dirty cop in the past, but his actions felt more
>written than realistic.
>
>Oh, and it's cool that Morgan Freeman was allowed to buck his
>recent typecasting, but, again, I didn't buy his character
>doing what he did.

I need to watch it again but I think I agree with you on both these points as well.

  

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48. "RE: Most of these characters were not believable."
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>You didn't like how he punked those guys in that 1st bar he
>went to?

My reaction to that scene was:

1.Goddman, I've seen this a million times before.

2.And like just about every time before, it's being done more for cinematic effect than any legitimate storytelling needs.

3.Homie is 5'5, so gun or no gun, the leathered-out, bald-headed 2PM-alchy, ex-bouncer macho loudmouth isn't gonna let himself get punked like that.

4.The bar scene in Good Will Hunting was much better.

>I need to watch it again but I think I agree with you on both
>these points as well.

Also, think about what a plot contrivance it is for Affleck to be duped by the fake transcript.

  

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50. "Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine (c)Billy Madison"
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>>You didn't like how he punked those guys in that 1st bar he
>>went to?
>
>My reaction to that scene was:
>
>1.Goddman, I've seen this a million times before.
>
>2.And like just about every time before, it's being done more
>for cinematic effect than any legitimate storytelling needs.
>
>3.Homie is 5'5, so gun or no gun, the leathered-out,
>bald-headed 2PM-alchy, ex-bouncer macho loudmouth isn't gonna
>let himself get punked like that.

Really? I think you might be surprised how quick tough guys turn punks when they've got a gun in their face

>4.The bar scene in Good Will Hunting was much better.

Lol. I sort of remember that but its been awhile since I've seen that.

>Also, think about what a plot contrivance it is for Affleck to
>be duped by the fake transcript.

What do you mean?

  

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51. "ha . . . may God have mercy on Ben Affleck's soul?"
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>>Also, think about what a plot contrivance it is for Affleck
>to
>>be duped by the fake transcript.
>
>What do you mean?

Okay, look at the Casey Affleck character. In one part of the movie, he mentions how "half" of his friends are cops. Also, earlier, he knew enough about the whole investigation process to compel Morgan Freeman to share information with him, as he was a PI representing a crime victim. That he had his shit together was the point of these two exchanges. However, when it came to the fake transcript, which set-up the movie's most pivotal plot turn, all of a sudden he was so gullible and easily duped. Even I watching was like, "really, they take transcripts on all calls to the police station? That's odd." But I was willing to go along with it, because I'm just some guy watching the movie, and I figured if an experienced PI like Affleck went along with it, it had to be legit.

Turns out it wasn't. It was a trick, a trick on Affleck and a trick on the audience. And it was able to go over so easily not because it was really in dude's character to be so dumb, but because the story needed it to unwind the way it would. That's contrived , bad writing.

  

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52. "I think he already did by putting him behind the camera this time"
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>>>Also, think about what a plot contrivance it is for
>Affleck
>>to
>>>be duped by the fake transcript.
>>
>>What do you mean?
>
>Okay, look at the Casey Affleck character. In one part of the
>movie, he mentions how "half" of his friends are cops. Also,
>earlier, he knew enough about the whole investigation process
>to compel Morgan Freeman to share information with him, as he
>was a PI representing a crime victim. That he had his shit
>together was the point of these two exchanges. However, when
>it came to the fake transcript, which set-up the movie's most
>pivotal plot turn, all of a sudden he was so gullible and
>easily duped. Even I watching was like, "really, they take
>transcripts on all calls to the police station? That's odd."
>But I was willing to go along with it, because I'm just some
>guy watching the movie, and I figured if an experienced PI
>like Affleck went along with it, it had to be legit.
>
>Turns out it wasn't. It was a trick, a trick on Affleck and a
>trick on the audience. And it was able to go over so easily
>not because it was really in dude's character to be so dumb,
>but because the story needed it to unwind the way it would.
>That's contrived , bad writing.

Ok gotcha now. I forgot about that part. I had a feeling Ed was shady from the start so I assumed that something wasn't kosher with that transcript from the jump. That was kinda weak tho.

  

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49. "RE: Most of these characters were not believable."
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>>The younger Affleck needs a gallon of adrenaline added to
>his
>>system, because how am I supposed to think his character
>>believes one way or another about anything if his
>performance
>>is so nonchalant / apathetic.

I thought this was pretty right on with the way guys from that part of town act. Maybe being from Boston and knowing alot of kids just like that has something to do with it.

> His girl? Woefully
>>underdeveloped.
>
>Agreeed. I could've done w/o her character in this.


She was such a big part of the book. Not sure why they cut her out so much but I dont think they could cut her out altogether.




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70. "I think you have a different point of view on this than most"
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I think this movie repped Boston way harder than the Departed.

It wasn't some contrived idea of what Boston is, Amy ryan and affleck were boston.

But maybe that's just me

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53. "Loved it!!"
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-Beadie was great, nomination well deserved

-Liked how dark it was and it didnt end happily which I thought it might

-I mean did he do the right thing?? Did he send her back to Helene for his own reasons more than Amandas?? I think so......

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54. "he did what he thought was right"
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But there's the problem, was it actually right in this case? Seems unlikely. It seems very likely that Helene was gonna keep on being a drunk shithead and do a horrible job raising her child. But Patrick was convinced that because it was blood, because it was her daughter, that's the way it had to be.

But this is one of my recent favorites, and I'm really hoping Affleck can build on this and become a strong director. I actually liked this a little more than The Departed. It's held up a little stronger with the second viewing (although I have to watch it 6-7 more times to catch up to Departed), and I felt like it was a more authentic look at Boston.

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way better than I thought it would be!

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56. "I dunno how many more of these well-acted but overall mediocre"
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Casey Affleck lead roles I can sit through

the whole thing got WAY too outlandish by the end...and poorly constructed

watching Casey's girl comfort him after killing the one pedophile, I was having an "insert-CSI-sepia-toned-flashback" to Mystic River -- another well-acted movie that wasn't very good

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58. "RE: Ben hits a home run"
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Gone Baby Gone

One of the best films of 2007.

Many have described GBG as a morally ambiguous film. Incorrect. The message is clear. If you are not ready to be a parent at day one you will not ever be ready. GBG does a stellar job of exposing what is one of our society's most serious issues, child neglect, and it does so in an uncompromising way.

Grade A







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Morally conflicted adults(there are no other kind) are behind amanda's kidnapping. The whole affair was set up by her crackhead mom's brother, lionel. He himself has no kids of his own. He married a woman who is sterile. He himself apparently has issues with fatherhood which is why he avoided it. We know Amanda's mom, Helene, has had an extremely difficult childhood. No reason for her drug use is given, none is needed. Why? Go back to the first sentence of this paragraph.


  

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59. "that's a slight stretch"
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>Morally conflicted adults(there are no other kind) are
>behind amanda's kidnapping. The whole affair was set up
>by her crackhead mom's brother, lionel. He himself has
>no kids of his own. He married a woman who is
>sterile. He himself apparently has issues with
>fatherhood which is why he avoided it.

is it ever implied he knew she was sterile? he says she straightened him out of alcoholism as the main reason they were together...

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60. "Great movie"
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I can't believe you guys didn't hype this over some of the other movies you were loving this year.

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61. "Very very nice"
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It was much better than I was expecting, even given all the hype. I figured at the very least Amy Ryan and others would do a solid job with the acting. I was impressed with the story and especially the moral conundrum at the end. The dialogue was particularly solid and I'm wondering now if Affleck handled the majority of the Good Will Hunting dialogue also.

I agreed pretty strongly with the New Republic review regarding the story and some of the pratfalls that Ben fell victim to. But it's nice to know that he has skills to offer the film industry other than his acting. I think with more experience he could sharpen his direction and writing significantly.

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62. "I definitely enjoyed it"
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Amy Ryan was fantastic, and the rest of the cast was pretty top-notch as well imo....they really didn't develop Casey's girl's character enough though, there really was no point to her character imo other than making that last dilemma even harder for him.

I was quite surprised by how gritty the movie was and how accurately they were able to portray some of those trashed out Boston areas.....those scenes with Casey and his girl in the bar were built up beautifully, and just very well done imo.

The shoot-out scene leading to Casey finding the dead kid was pretty wild too....excellent scene, and then that talk with Ed Harris was one of my fav parts of the film.

I think i saw a few others mention it....but the only thing that kinda bugged me was how outlandish the twists got at the end. I jokingly said to my brother, after I heard that Morgan Freeman's character had lost his kid, that 'watch, he's gonna take the kid and raise her in the place of the one he lost.' Little did I know it would actually happen, and once we found out that the transcript was fake.....we just started straight cracking up, which I don't think was the intention of the movie at that point lmao. It kinda cheapened that whole last aspect.....but I still did really feel the weight of the decision that Casey had to make. What really is right or wrong in that situation? Does the kid deserve to be with her mother or does she deserve to be in the best situation possible? The ending scene with the Mom drinking and not even having a reliable sitter....it kinda gives the vibe that shit aint gon change. Very thought-provoking and interesting stuff.

Good film, some excellent scenes, atmosphere, and performances. Another good score by HG Williams too. Very worthwhile.

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"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

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maternalbliss
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64. "RE: I definitely enjoyed it"
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>Amy Ryan was fantastic, and the rest of the cast was pretty
>top-notch as well imo....they really didn't develop Casey's
>girl's character enough though, there really was no point to
>her character imo other than making that last dilemma even
>harder for him.
>
>I was quite surprised by how gritty the movie was and how
>accurately they were able to portray some of those trashed out
>Boston areas.....those scenes with Casey and his girl in the
>bar were built up beautifully, and just very well done imo.
>
>The shoot-out scene leading to Casey finding the dead kid was
>pretty wild too....excellent scene, and then that talk with Ed
>Harris was one of my fav parts of the film.
>
>I think i saw a few others mention it....but the only thing
>that kinda bugged me was how outlandish the twists got at the
>end. I jokingly said to my brother, after I heard that Morgan
>Freeman's character had lost his kid, that 'watch, he's gonna
>take the kid and raise her in the place of the one he lost.'
>Little did I know it would actually happen, and once we found
>out that the transcript was fake.....we just started straight
>cracking up, which I don't think was the intention of the
>movie at that point lmao. It kinda cheapened that whole last
>aspect.....but I still did really feel the weight of the
>decision that Casey had to make. What really is right or
>wrong in that situation? Does the kid deserve to be with her
>mother or does she deserve to be in the best situation
>possible?


The ending scene with the Mom drinking and not even
>having a reliable sitter....it kinda gives the vibe that shit
>aint gon change.
The author of the novel GBG, Lehane, said society was nowhere near solving the problem of how best to raise and protect children. He damn sure right. Although I have not read his book I think the movue captures his sentiments exactly the way he expressed them.






Very thought-provoking and interesting
>stuff.
>
>Good film, some excellent scenes, atmosphere, and
>performances. Another good score by HG Williams too. Very
>worthwhile.

  

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Ceej
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65. "In the end the right choice is the "wrong" choice and casey knew that"
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but to me his basis for his decsion making was pretty selfish.

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temps2020
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63. "finally saw it last night, great movie, good acting, good directing"
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you need to ask somebody about me. you some Newbie with a few posts. fool you coming at me with some turkey and Bread and you ain't no Miracle Whip to make a sandwich and you ain't no conversation to hang. (c) mistermaxxx

  

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Oakley
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66. "just got it from NetFlix"
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I really liked it, but damn that ending was depressing.

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Ceej
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67. "Just watched this again"
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goddamn is that ending depressing. Casey sittin on the couch just having the consequences of his wrong decisions thrown in his face, kid is ignored, his gf is gone, Helene hasnt changed ONE fuckin bit. He gotta be sittin there like WTF did I do to this kid?? WELLPP at least I can sleep at night (idiot).

Amy Ryan was fuckin great she was as good as Monaghan was useless<<<<<<<<<<<<<<thats pretty good.

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mrshow
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68. "Ive rewatched this a dozen times..."
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Affleck got skills.

  

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bwood
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69. "RE: Ive rewatched this a dozen times..."
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Seen it a few times myself and I like Ben more as a director than an actor. It's pretty clear that Casey is the actor

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72. "Which one son?"
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>Affleck got skills.

  

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JAESCOTT777
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71. "I slept on this one but just seen it earlier this year and its "
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heat

I was really impressed
Very Good film

  

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