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"Most Accurate Depiction of a Relationship In A Movie Is..."


          

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Hmm...Eternal Sunshine?
Jun 05th 2007
1
the
Jun 05th 2007
5
Bad Santa
Jun 05th 2007
2
Disappearing Acts
Jun 05th 2007
3
book yes, movie HELL NO!!!
Jun 05th 2007
7
      why so?
Jun 06th 2007
19
           the relationship in the book was very long, and slow moving
Jun 11th 2007
41
                ur avi made me smile
Jun 11th 2007
43
My Best Friend's Wedding
Jun 05th 2007
4
I think I love my wife.
Jun 05th 2007
6
Love Jones
Jun 05th 2007
8
Scenes From A Marriage (Bergman) and
Jun 05th 2007
9
RE: Scenes From A Marriage (Bergman) and
Jun 05th 2007
10
High Fidelity
Jun 05th 2007
11
co-sign
Jun 06th 2007
20
Brokeback Mountain
Jun 05th 2007
12
Annie Hall was pretty good, wasn't it?
Jun 05th 2007
13
^^^Great relationship that would never actually happen^^^ n/m
Jun 05th 2007
15
Uhhhh...
Jun 06th 2007
29
      *based on*
Jun 06th 2007
31
           Woody called her Annie
Jun 06th 2007
34
                that's a very different thing from saying "her nickname is Annie."
Jun 12th 2007
48
i met this girl a while back
Jun 05th 2007
17
Something New
Jun 05th 2007
14
I was always fond of the relationship in Love & Sex
Jun 05th 2007
16
Love me If You dare
Jun 06th 2007
18
Mr. Jealousy
Jun 06th 2007
21
No votes for Baby Boy? nm
Jun 06th 2007
22
reply #10 nm
Jun 06th 2007
23
Closer
Jun 06th 2007
24
^^^^WINNER^^^^
Jun 11th 2007
39
RE: Most Accurate Depiction of a Relationship In A Movie Is...
Jun 06th 2007
25
Leaving Las Vegas
Jun 06th 2007
26
The Notebook
Jun 06th 2007
27
the neglect for their kids and grandkids was disgusting in that movie
Jun 06th 2007
30
^My alltime favorite date movie
Jun 06th 2007
28
eep
Jun 06th 2007
33
My Sassy Girl
Jun 06th 2007
32
eternal sunshine (and if hbo counts) brenda and nate in 6ftVVVV
Jun 06th 2007
35
When A Man Loves A Woman
Jun 07th 2007
36
Chasing Amy
Jun 07th 2007
37
Love and Sex ....with famke janssen and jon favreau
Jun 07th 2007
38
I thought I was the only one who saw that movie.
Jun 11th 2007
40
that makes three of us
Jun 11th 2007
44
RE: Love and Sex ....with famke janssen and jon favreau
Jun 12th 2007
49
She Hate Me
Jun 11th 2007
42
RE: Most Accurate Depiction of a Relationship In A Movie Is...
Jun 11th 2007
45
L'Atalante
Jun 11th 2007
46
Soul Food
Jun 12th 2007
47
prime. the relationship w/ uma and dude was realistic, the plot was not
Jun 12th 2007
50

ActWon
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1. "Hmm...Eternal Sunshine?"
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*runs*

  

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5. "the"
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worst.

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2. "Bad Santa"
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3. "Disappearing Acts"
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7. "book yes, movie HELL NO!!!"
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19. "why so?"
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41. "the relationship in the book was very long, and slow moving"
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even after they had sex the first time in her kitchen it moved at a natural clip with ups and downs.

from the book you could see how she loved him in spite of himself and how she wasn't perfect either.

the movie was very one sided. im pretty sure they didnt have the scrabble thing in the movie. that was a major facet of their relationship. the fact that he was probably smarter (book smart) than her but had NO drive or initiative.

they also left out their vacation to miami, the rape and abortion and a bunch of other shit.

by the end of the book which was like 5 or 6 years after they met, you coudl tell they had grown alot.

the finally of the book was them playing strip-scabble again, like their first date, trying to start over

  

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43. "ur avi made me smile"
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I definitely prefer the book to the film...I felt that the book set a really good context for the story and the characters were developed well. I also really liked how each chapter slipped into either Franklin narrating or Zora narrating...

and of course there were a lotta things the movie left out...including the things you mentioned, plus Zora's girlfriend tryin to make a pass @ her and certain scenes which I thought were quite tender.

Even so...I thought the film did an excellent job of portraying a relationship between a young black couple. Its not the story of ALL black couples, but I'm sure a lot of ppl can relate to the areas explored and for the purpose of making it contemporary, lotsa things about the story had to be changed and pruned. I liked that it felt very current...beginning with Zora listening to 'Life Story' on the bus, the realism of the city around them and the excitement of entering a new relationship- scenes with them holding hands walking down the street...and Franklin beaming with pride as other ppl admire her...her singing for him for the first time, the arguments they had seemed quite realistic and gave a good perspective on a male viewpoint- especially in the scenes when he loses his job and when they have an argument on her birthday.

I thought the love scenes were very well done. And remember how in the movie, there are subtle cuts of little things that happen in their relationship- quick scenes of them making love, laying on the sofa laughing at something on TV...of them dancing with eachother in the house to Chaka Khan's 'Aint Nobody'...of them preparing to meet Franklin's parents.

The rape scene wasn't portrayed in the same way as it was in the book, however I think there was an attempt to tackle that part of the story...when they are having problems in the relationship- Franklin is drinking heavily and listening to Donny Hathaway and generally acting like an ass. He tries to have sex with her and is very coarse and rough and I'm not sure if I watched it feeling the way I did in the rape scene in the book, but I know I felt a sense of her being violated by what happened.

I think overall the film handled the position of the man fairly delicately...it wasn't one sided because it didn't portray Franklin as just 'another wotless black man'...jobless/jealous/workshy/triflin. I think it portrayed him as a loveable character...quietly intellectual, TRYING to do better, dealing with the relationship while taking what he percieves to be knocks to his manhood. I also liked Zora's character in the film...I thought Sanaa brough humanness to the role. She was very vulnerable and sensitive but also strong and just...like a regular sista tryin to do her thing AND hold down her relationship.

I thought all in all, while the book is really great (although its been 10 years since I last read it), the film also depicts a black relationship really well. And yeah...the scrabble was a nice touch

  

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4. "My Best Friend's Wedding"
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6. "I think I love my wife."
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8. "Love Jones"
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especially the down parts of a relationship

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9. "Scenes From A Marriage (Bergman) and"
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In The Mood For Love (Wong)
An Affair Of Love (Fonteyne)

Family relationships:

Yi Yi (Yang)
Ozu films
You Can Count On Me (Lonergan)

  

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10. "RE: Scenes From A Marriage (Bergman) and"
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i agree with this

and i would add Baby Boy (Singleton)

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11. "High Fidelity"
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Cause break ups suck strong and they really do make you assess your past relationships.

  

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20. "co-sign"
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12. "Brokeback Mountain"
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13. "Annie Hall was pretty good, wasn't it?"
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I mean people aren't typically that witty or well dressed, but you know

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15. "^^^Great relationship that would never actually happen^^^ n/m"
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29. "Uhhhh..."
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I believe it's based pretty directly on Woody and Keaton's actual relationship.

She is Diane Hall Keaton, nickname Annie.

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31. "*based on*"
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She's acting in that movie, you know.

And no one calls her "Annie."

  

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34. "Woody called her Annie"
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At least that's what he says in interviews.

And her legal name was Diane Hall. Keaton was a SAG thing.

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48. "that's a very different thing from saying "her nickname is Annie.""
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I never disputed the "based on," but I do dispute the idea that this is some kind of documentary or other true-to-life portrayal. I think it would be an insult to her to say that she had won an academy award for just acting like her own little nutty self. That's not to say that she's not quirky. She is. But it's still a narrative feature, and even movies that are biopics smooth out details and contradictions in order to tell a single, coherent story with a beginning, a middle and an end.

I understand from a friend who recently watched one of her more recent movies (I don't recall which one, I'm not actually a big fan of the movies she's done lately) that she has a line in that film about collecting a particular kind of pottery. Which she does in real life. And she has probably the second largest collection of this pottery in the country. So does that mean that the rest of the film is true to life?

  

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17. "i met this girl a while back"
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that reminded me of annie hall (even resembled her kind of)..its scary. though i dont remind myself of woody allen..well, maybe in certain ways. but yeah...our "relationship" was somewhat similar. oh, and annie hall was her favorite movie. weird!

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14. "Something New"
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The movie's style was very realistic and while everyone said what usually probably stews underneath the surface, it seemed like a good portrayal of relationships.

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16. "I was always fond of the relationship in Love & Sex"
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18. "Love me If You dare"
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21. "Mr. Jealousy"
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starring Eric Stoltz, dir. Noah Baumbach

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22. "No votes for Baby Boy? nm"
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23. "reply #10 nm"
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>______________________________________________________________________
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39. "^^^^WINNER^^^^"
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....(a)relationship. There are many types of course, but this was a great exploration of a couple of them.

"Basically, I’m going to take what you did, the bare-bones structure of what you were trying to do, how you were attacking the song, and attack it in pretty much the same way, just with more intensity to show you that you could’ve come harder" - Bun B

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25. "RE: Most Accurate Depiction of a Relationship In A Movie Is..."
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Rudd's relationship in Knocked Up hit close to home for me.

  

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26. "Leaving Las Vegas"
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I know, I need help...

  

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27. "The Notebook"
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NOT!!!

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30. "the neglect for their kids and grandkids was disgusting in that movie"
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28. "^My alltime favorite date movie"
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33. "eep"
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nm

  

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32. "My Sassy Girl"
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at times...

  

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35. "eternal sunshine (and if hbo counts) brenda and nate in 6ftVVVV"
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36. "When A Man Loves A Woman"
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38. "Love and Sex ....with famke janssen and jon favreau"
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40. "I thought I was the only one who saw that movie."
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44. "that makes three of us"
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very sincere depiction of a relationship through all stages.

the scene where jon is freakin out about her going to malibu with the actor ... going through her mail and screaming. ah ... too funny.

  

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49. "RE: Love and Sex ....with famke janssen and jon favreau"
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saw it when i was too young to really get it, i think that one needs to get rewatched.

  

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42. "She Hate Me"
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ambient1
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45. "RE: Most Accurate Depiction of a Relationship In A Movie Is..."
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Baby Boy....hands down

  

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DubSpt
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46. "L'Atalante"
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- Dub

I give rappers the biz for being m-izza-a-archaic.

  

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Sad Puppy Eyes
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47. "Soul Food"
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(various relationships)

Waiting To Exhale (Marvin and Gloria)

  

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EMATI
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50. "prime. the relationship w/ uma and dude was realistic, the plot was not"
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dinner with friends, an hbo movie with toni collette (love her), greg kinnear, dennis quaid & andie mcdowell
someone already mentioned closer, there were certain elements of the relationships that struck a chord
i also agree with love jones, though i think they'd try again & fail...i don't know, maybe not

  

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