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"Zodiac: This year's Love it or Hate it film?"


          

Fincher described it as 2.5 horus of talking. The reviews all make it seem like it is intricate, detail oriented yet lacks obvious drama. For people expecting Fight Club or Seven (or even Panic Room) this might be a big disappointment.

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2.5 hours of talking = my kind of movie!
Mar 01st 2007
1
RE: 2.5 hours of talking = my kind of movie!
Mar 01st 2007
4
what about it?
Mar 02nd 2007
6
      Fincher gets a pass for this but Stone doesn't for WTC?
Mar 02nd 2007
8
           dude, I never said that Stone was wrong for profiting from the victims' ...
Mar 02nd 2007
9
                My bad
Mar 02nd 2007
10
                     lol
Mar 02nd 2007
11
thats what i said
Mar 08th 2007
37
Checkin it out 2nite. Currently 84% on rotten tomatoes
Mar 01st 2007
2
I'm fascinated by serial killers in general, the Zodiac in particular
Mar 01st 2007
3
My guess is most will hate it. It's not bad but it does drag at times
Mar 02nd 2007
5
I'll probably see it this weekend
Mar 02nd 2007
7
ugh, the words "Good Shepherd" ruin my expectations
Mar 02nd 2007
13
hated it....::: SPOILERS :::
Mar 02nd 2007
12
See I disagree with this part:
Mar 03rd 2007
15
      RE: See I disagree with this part:
Mar 04th 2007
20
           But see...
Mar 05th 2007
25
           major questions about movie.
Mar 05th 2007
28
                RE: major questions about movie.
Mar 05th 2007
30
                RE: major questions about movie.
Mar 05th 2007
33
                     RE: major questions about movie.
Mar 05th 2007
34
                          chances are it wasn't the Zodiac
Jan 24th 2008
59
RE: Zodiac: This year's Love it or Hate it film?
Mar 02nd 2007
14
Wouldn't say I loved it, but I thought it was pretty excellent
Mar 03rd 2007
16
the obsession thing
Mar 05th 2007
32
Funny, it didn't drag for me at all
Mar 04th 2007
17
who didn't carry their weight there?
Mar 04th 2007
18
Jack Nicholson and Matt Damon
Mar 07th 2007
35
      RE: Jack Nicholson and Matt Damon
Mar 08th 2007
36
           Maybe but Damon was supposed to help carry that damn film
Mar 08th 2007
38
                He did
Mar 22nd 2007
46
yeah, one of the few movies I can watch throughout @ my house.
Jan 24th 2008
60
i saw it today and enjoyed the film
Mar 04th 2007
19
i counted 6 DIFFERENT ppl snoring
Mar 04th 2007
21
But did YOU like it?
Mar 05th 2007
23
Put me in the "Love It" column.
Mar 05th 2007
22
i really liked it
Mar 05th 2007
24
so is it akin to The Good Shepherd in terms of all dialogue?
Mar 05th 2007
26
I thought it was better than TGS
Mar 05th 2007
27
i enjoyed it.
Mar 05th 2007
29
I liked it a lot
Mar 05th 2007
31
The answer is No
Mar 09th 2007
39
this film made my ass sore
Mar 09th 2007
40
freaking robert downey, jr. oh, how i love thee.
Mar 11th 2007
41
Put me in the Love It category
Mar 12th 2007
42
How can you not like this film
Mar 15th 2007
43
Didn't know a damn thing about the case going in, liked it alot
Mar 20th 2007
44
Saw it last night
Mar 22nd 2007
45
Apparently, the DVD is out today.
Jul 24th 2007
47
holy shit that was LONG
Jul 24th 2007
48
i loved it
Jul 25th 2007
49
the DVD
Jul 25th 2007
50
My favorite Fincher film to date.
Jan 24th 2008
51
RE: Zodiac: This year's Love it or Hate it film?
Jan 24th 2008
52
It came out two weeks ago.
Jan 24th 2008
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      word
Jan 24th 2008
54
Overrated and boring. How about Crossword: The Movie
Jan 24th 2008
55
in short: cosign
Jan 24th 2008
57
overrated because you didn't like it?
Jan 24th 2008
61
worth it just for the 70s 'Frisco sets
Jan 24th 2008
56
pretty dull
Jan 24th 2008
58
RE: I liked it
Mar 12th 2008
62
Decade later, yall ready to revise your reviews?
Jun 20th 2019
63
It's really really good
Jun 22nd 2019
64
Did they even solve the case?
Jun 24th 2019
65
It's a damn classic.
Jun 28th 2019
66
      Unquestionably.
Jun 28th 2019
67
i just rewatched this movie
Jul 07th 2019
68

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1. "2.5 hours of talking = my kind of movie!"
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lol

plus as a San Fran resident now and a California native who was alive and scared during that era, I think I want to see it for the nostalgia element.


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4. "RE: 2.5 hours of talking = my kind of movie!"
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>lol
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>plus as a San Fran resident now and a California native who
>was alive and scared during that era, I think I want to see it
>for the nostalgia element.

What about Fincher profiting off the victims tho?

  

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6. "what about it?"
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I mean, doesn't every film about a crime essentially profit from the victims' misery?

*shrug*

  

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8. "Fincher gets a pass for this but Stone doesn't for WTC?"
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I assume it's because of the time frame & number of people affected?

>I mean, doesn't every film about a crime essentially profit
>from the victims' misery?
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>*shrug*

  

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9. "dude, I never said that Stone was wrong for profiting from the victims' ..."
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I said Stone was wrong for profiting from the exploitation of emotions and jingoism.


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10. "My bad"
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11. "lol"
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it's a fine distinction, lol

  

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37. "thats what i said"
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2. "Checkin it out 2nite. Currently 84% on rotten tomatoes"
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Was 93% earlier this morning tho

  

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3. "I'm fascinated by serial killers in general, the Zodiac in particular"
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I think it's partially due to my long love affair with the Bay and that I saw some TV show about the Zodiac when I was younger (14 or 15).

I'm really trying to see that, but the schedule is gonna be the X factor for the next couple weeks. Damn surgeons are messin around with my free time. And 300 might be more essential to my theatre experience.

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5. "My guess is most will hate it. It's not bad but it does drag at times"
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It's very takly similar to The Good Shepard. The soundtrack is great. The cinematography is top notch. There's a few aerial shots that are quite impressive including 1 of the GGB that I wish I had framed on my wall at home. There's also a sped up shot of the Transamerica building being built that looked great & helped break the monotony of the rest of the movie.

Those thinking this will be similar to Se7en are in for quite a shock. If I remember correctly there's only 3.5 scenes of Z in action & they all happen pretty early in the movie. Most of the movie focuses on the cooperation between the law enforcement agencies of the different cities that Z "supposedly" committed crimes in. As well as the media, represented largely by Robert Downey Jr. who continues to be on a roll as of late. Mark Ruffalo & Anthony Edwards make for a nice buddy cop tandem but they should've cast someone else besides Dermont Mulroney as their boss. Jake Gyllenhaal (whose character wrote the book the movie was based on) does a good job as well but doesn't really take center stage till the 3rd act & by that time he's pretty much just retreading similar territory Ruffalo & Edwards explored earlier. I just stopped caring after awhile & perhaps that's due to the fact that I already know that the case is still unresolved.

Overall I give it a B- as I think it could've been edited down better. The 2 hour 40 minute running time really started to wear on me after awhile. And the ending of course leaves you hangin.

  

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7. "I'll probably see it this weekend"
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13. "ugh, the words "Good Shepherd" ruin my expectations"
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although I liked every movie Finchy's done

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12. "hated it....::: SPOILERS :::"
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but fincher didn't lie...it really
is entirely folks talking or on their
way to talk.

take away about forty five minutes of
flab and add more suspence, and this is
a good movie.

as it stands, the actually zodiac killings
aren't really necessary to deal with the
central theme of this movie which is


SPOILERS



















obsession, and the length that folks will
go to acheive some goal.



overall, i felt like this movie was a waste
of my time, and was not even a serious, in depth
examination of obsession at all. jake gynllenhal's
character was obsessed, but since the movie doesn't
even really end with him, you are left with no real
resolution.

basically, i took out a girl that i'd been a great dates
with before, filled with good convo, good food, and
cool things to do, but this time all she did was drone
on self-indulgently all night on some artsty, pretentious
shit.

she's now on my disslist, and unless i have serious
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15. "See I disagree with this part:"
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>SPOILERS
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>obsession, and the length that folks will
>go to acheive some goal.
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>overall, i felt like this movie was a waste
>of my time, and was not even a serious, in depth
>examination of obsession at all. jake gynllenhal's
>character was obsessed, but since the movie doesn't
>even really end with him, you are left with no real
>resolution.

SPOILERS







I think Jake's character does get some resolution. He tells his wife all he wants is to be able to look the Zodiac in the eye and know it's him. And he does that in the second to last scene in the movie. So he gets the only closure he really needs. He's able to write the book in good conscience and reunite with his kids.

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20. "RE: See I disagree with this part:"
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i liked the movie even though it WAS way too long being about a movie on an unsolved mystery about a "maybe or maybe not" serial killer...the key issue about the movie was about a man's obsession, and for the suppose "main" character (who really becomes the main focus on the latter half of the movie) it never really explain on WHY he was obsessed...i could understand the cop's particular obsession, but not the lead character...they DID show him getting closure in the end, and him reuniting with his wife & kids, but it never explained WHY he was obsessed when he had absolutely no connection with the case...he was a sidebar


but the movie itself was pretty good, for a film that had minimum violence, and hardly no action, the pacing was really good for an extremely long movie, and that's all due to the colorful acting...everyone did great...robert downy jr especially

also the LOOK of the movie made you feel like you're ACTUALLY inside that era....how they made the late 60's and the 70's was TOO on point! it gave you a feel like you were right there....

i didn't realized how long this movie was until the VERY end...the movie hardly dragged

  

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25. "But see..."
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>it never really explain on WHY he was obsessed...i could
>understand the cop's particular obsession, but not the lead
>character...they DID show him getting closure in the end, and
>him reuniting with his wife & kids, but it never explained WHY
>he was obsessed when he had absolutely no connection with the
>case...he was a sidebar

He said he was obsessed with puzzles. It only seems natural he'd become completley obsessed with one that started out slow/easy enough (the ciphers) - he stayed in those meetings with the rest of the newspaper staff with no real reason to because there was a problem that needed to be solved in the form of a type of riddle. That evolved into a much more difficult puzzle that he NEEDED to solve. Once he finally did he could move on.

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28. "major questions about movie."
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I enjoyed it a lot. my 3 questions are....
1. why didn't Graysmith show a picture of Leigh to Darlene's sister in prison since she saw Leigh at the "painting party"?
2. Why didn't anyone show a picture of Leigh to the pregnant lady who got thrown out of Zodiac's car?
3. Didn't Zodiac have the same black Mustang looking car for the killings? Did Leigh own that kind of a car??

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30. "RE: major questions about movie."
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>I enjoyed it a lot. my 3 questions are....
>1. why didn't Graysmith show a picture of Leigh to Darlene's
>sister in prison since she saw Leigh at the "painting party"?

He, at that time, was convinced it was Rick Marshall. Leigh was out as a suspect.

>2. Why didn't anyone show a picture of Leigh to the pregnant
>lady who got thrown out of Zodiac's car?

They never went back into detail about the lady with the baby...my guess is that she was so shaken she decided not to cooperate with police anymore.

>3. Didn't Zodiac have the same black Mustang looking car for
>the killings? Did Leigh own that kind of a car??

Nobody really mentioned the car to police in the film...and I could be wrong, but it seemed like he was using 2 different cars for whatever reason. Perhaps because people couldn't remember what type of car he really had? I dunno.

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33. "RE: major questions about movie."
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>2. Why didn't anyone show a picture of Leigh to the pregnant
>lady who got thrown out of Zodiac's car?

Because it wasn't even clear that that guy was the Zodiac. Remember when Avery takes Graysmith into the newspaper's morgue and show him that even though the Zodiac took credit for it in one of his letters, he didn't know any details that weren't in the paper. The same with the police-man's murder in the same issue. At that point, they figured the Zodiac was taking credit for murders and attempted murders he didn't commit because he liked the attention.

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34. "RE: major questions about movie."
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true, but she SAW his face!!!! so she could have easily picked him out of a line-up!!!!! At least then if it was Leigh, they could have pursued him harder. A positive ID allows a warrant right??

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59. "chances are it wasn't the Zodiac"
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so she wouldn't of ID'd anyone they put in the line-up.
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14. "RE: Zodiac: This year's Love it or Hate it film?"
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saw it today and i definitely enjoyed it, after stopping in this thread i was prepared for the amount of dialogue and length. it definitely wasn't Seven, but it was worth the watch for sure.

  

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16. "Wouldn't say I loved it, but I thought it was pretty excellent"
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I will say it felt every bit of its 160 minutes length. Probably a little more even. But it was a very thoroughly police procedural and a look into the nature of obsession. It did meander a bit around the end of the first major act and the beginning of the second, but it did work for me.

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32. "the obsession thing"
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is probably another reason I liked it. I totally totally relate to the experience of believing that you're the only person who has taken public information and put it together in a way that makes sense and needs to be acted on, but being completely ignored.

So that probably added to my enjoyment.

  

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17. "Funny, it didn't drag for me at all"
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Or my fiancee. We both loved it. I had no issues with the pacing.

Yeah it's talky, but aren't most dramas?

There's some great writing, direction, and acting and when those 3 things come together all you can really do is nitpick. It wasn't a "blow you away" type of film, but it was an excellently made film. Every performance was at least solid if not great especially among the leads... unlike say another recent crime-ensemble film *coughTheDepartedcough*.

I'd say it's probably Fincher's most complete work so far. I'd give it a solid B+/A-

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18. "who didn't carry their weight there?"
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>Every performance was at least solid
>if not great especially among the leads... unlike say another
>recent crime-ensemble film *coughTheDepartedcough*.

  

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35. "Jack Nicholson and Matt Damon"
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Every performance in Zodiac was better than Jack's or Damon's performance. And the females in Zodiac >>>>>>>>> females in Departed.

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36. "RE: Jack Nicholson and Matt Damon"
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>Every performance in Zodiac was better than Jack's or Damon's
>performance. And the females in Zodiac >>>>>>>>> females in
>Departed.

Matt Damon in The Departed>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dermont Mulroney in Zodiac

  

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38. "Maybe but Damon was supposed to help carry that damn film"
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And he felt more out of place to me than Mulroney. Plus Mulroney was barely even attached to the story. He had about as much screen time as William Hurt in History of Violence. Weak performance from Damon hurts Departed more than a 'blah' performance from Mulroney in Zodiac.

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46. "He did"
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60. "yeah, one of the few movies I can watch throughout @ my house."
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19. "i saw it today and enjoyed the film"
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it started to freak me out a little since i'm a Cali resident but it was very good.

the acting was all on point and the story kept me interesting throughout the lengthly running time.

  

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21. "i counted 6 DIFFERENT ppl snoring"
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and this was at the Ritz in Voorhees , a supposedly artsy crowd

  

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23. "But did YOU like it?"
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22. "Put me in the "Love It" column."
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One review I read said something along the lines of the viewer gets tangled in with the investigation and becomes as interested in it as the characters are. For me, that absolutely held true. From a story standpoint, yes it was "talky". It was very little action, but a lot of story. A LOT of webs. Lots of layers. Riveting stuff, in my opinion. Kept me interested all the way through...and it didn't do the one thing that films like this tend to do: throw in forced, unnatural subplots to define the characters more. Those always just seem totally unneccessary.

Not to say there weren't subplots; the ones they had were just fine. They didn't detract from the story whatsoever and they did not waste a second of time on them. So that was good.

Then from a cinematic standpoint...this shit was great. The film changed tone through the years (since it takes places over a matter of 4 decades), but still manages to feel natural in it's progression (somewhat like The Aviator). As was mentioned, the soundtrack is phenomenal, the cinematography is great, and, much as I like them, there were very few Fincherisms inserted throughout. Some might even say he didn't put his stamp on this one like Spike Lee "didn't" in Inside Man, but I'd definitely disagree.

Acting? Jake: Damn good. RDJ: Fantastic. Ruffalo: Well done, sir. The cast was great and they all seemed to have a fantastic repoire. They all delivered the intricate, wordy, biting, and oftentimes hilarious dialouge perfectly.

Thumbs way up. I loved it.

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24. "i really liked it"
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held my attention throughout. yeah, 160 minutes is a long time, but it didn't feel like it. acting was great, especially ruffalo and downey. also good was goose and even casey jones (tmnt stand-up)

  

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26. "so is it akin to The Good Shepherd in terms of all dialogue?"
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because I loved The Good Shepherd....but DEF a love it or hate it movie.

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27. "I thought it was better than TGS"
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I wasn't as impressed with that film as I was with this one

This one reminded me a lot of The Insider

And the writing was on-point here
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29. "i enjoyed it."
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31. "I liked it a lot"
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I felt drained at the end, but I was engaged all the way through.

I definitely attribute my enjoyment of parts of it to my age & location. I didn't grow up in Northern Cal, but all of California was pretty freaked out by this.

It was cool to see scenes of SF and also to remember weird details like the Halloween in 1969 when there was talk that we wouldn't go trick or treating because after all SF is only 400 miles away from the town I grew up in and the Zodiac killer was still on the loose. I think we did anyway but were just really freaked out, lol.

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39. "The answer is No"
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I liked it but it wasn't a love/hate film. I think people were engrossed but not entertained. People might have been bored but it was solid enough not to elicit hate.

Definitely an interesting film though.

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40. "this film made my ass sore"
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good acting, but way too long. i wanna see disturbia.

  

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41. "freaking robert downey, jr. oh, how i love thee."
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i thought it was great. and solid, like everyone's saying here.

it didn't freak me out. it gets points for that.

it's the first time i've liked mark ruffalo in a role. so kudos for that.

& yeah. i know he played a junkie. so it wasn't a stretch, but i really do love robert downey jr. and he was great here (again, some more).

  

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42. "Put me in the Love It category"
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Not perfect but very, very good. A solid 8.

Arguments you could make against it:
Story arc peaks too early
Dermot Mulroney (But that's one bad casting decision among a dozen good ones)
Jake section gets heavy
Points a heavy finger at a single suspect

On the positive side:
Detailed, mature, skillful filmmaking
Excellent performances
A completely authentic look and feel

Honestly, it's just nice to go to a mainstream movie theatre and see a well-done professional movie. No amateur shit here. I was fully satisfied.

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43. "How can you not like this film"
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I thought it was EXCELLENT!!

  

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44. "Didn't know a damn thing about the case going in, liked it alot"
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I didn't like Downey though. He wasn't funny, he was annoying.

Ruffalo was great as always.

I don't know how anyone could find this movie boring. It IS exhausting though if you don't know a damn thing like me.

Fight Club still sucks.

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45. "Saw it last night"
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Not prepared to say whether I love it (definitely didn't hate it). I have been thinking about it ever since which is a good sign. The obvious hurdle is how do you make such a procedural without turning into a law and order episode. I guess one aspect of it is that it is true and it spanned decades. I think one thing you can't help wondering when you leave it how much police work has advanced in the last couple of decades. I think they definitely would have caught him now (nothinh seemed partiuclarly brilliant about Zodiac).

I consider it better than the Good Shepard, almost as good as Munich. All extremely well made movies, not for mass consumption.


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47. "Apparently, the DVD is out today."
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For those who are interested, Entertainment Weekly is reporting that a director's cut is coming sometime next year...
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48. "holy shit that was LONG"
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overall I liked it. Downey Jr.'s acting style fit well here and Ruffalo was good as well.

some more generous editing and it'd be a very good movie.

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49. "i loved it"
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almost 3 hours of straight talking and opining about every detail with little bursts of action and suspense... i watch it everynight before bed to sleep.

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50. "the DVD"
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I missed it when it was in theaters because my girl wanted to see it, but never felt like going to the movies when I wanted to.

I was gonna buy the DVD on GP (Fincher has only let me down once), until I found out the directors cut is coming next year.

  

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51. "My favorite Fincher film to date."
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It ran too long in spots, but I definitely dug it. Much like PTA's newest, this flick lacked the "Fincher style" that has so irritated me in the past. The script was really great, and Fincher focused in on the characters, letting them carry the story rather than letting his direction and his heavyhandedness hammer some message home.

Very very well done.

  

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52. "RE: Zodiac: This year's Love it or Hate it film?"
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excellent movie. i was very impressed w/ mark ruffalo (sp?) who did a great job.

does anyone know when the special edition dvd is coming out?

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53. "It came out two weeks ago."
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>does anyone know when the special edition dvd is coming out?

It's got two commentaries and some other quality supplemental material, including pieces about the composition process of the film's sly visual effects, a lengthy documentary that retraces the initial Zodiac crime scene investigations, and then a shorter but chilling series of sit-down interviews with people who knew Arthur Leigh Allen (it'll certainly make you rethink the Don Chaney "character").

  

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i will rent it today if i can find it.

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55. "Overrated and boring. How about Crossword: The Movie"
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Watch as one man does the NY Times crossword puzzle.
Fucking boring.
Robert Downey was good as usual, but Jake?

No point except to say don't spend too much time on anything, which is ironically what happened to me with this movie.

  

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57. "in short: cosign"
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61. "overrated because you didn't like it?"
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lol

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56. "worth it just for the 70s 'Frisco sets"
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but it was very good anway

the couple at the lakeside... that ousts Psycho! for nastiest stabbing!

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58. "pretty dull"
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it's kind of JFK and LA Confidential's hot but boring cousin.

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62. "RE: I liked it"
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but i did not love it. It is a solid film tho.

  

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63. "Decade later, yall ready to revise your reviews?"
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64. "It's really really good"
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I don't see it on the same level as the best films of 2007 but the performances make me revisit it every few years.

  

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65. "Did they even solve the case?"
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66. "It's a damn classic. "
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68. "i just rewatched this movie"
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wasn't memorable then and i just remembered why.







THEY HAD THE GUY FROM THE BEGINNING. anti-climatic, long, and drawn out.
gyllenhal's character was batsh*t.

  

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