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HighVoltage
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"Best war movie ever made?"


  

          

I was gonna make this a poll, but there are too many choices to just clump into an "other" category.

Here are some films that come to mind...

-Saving Private Ryan
-Platoon
-Full Metal Jacket
-The Bridge on the River Kwai
-Enemy At The Gates
-Black Hawk Down
-Three Kings
-Born on the Fourth of July
-We Were Soldiers
-The Thin Red Line
-Tora! Tora! Tora!
-Patton
-Apocalypse Now
-A Bridge Too Far
-The Longest Day


I'd go with Saving Private Ryan, followed by Full Metal Jacket.

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RE: Best war movie ever made?
Dec 02nd 2006
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KF, you ever seen Three Kings?
Dec 02nd 2006
2
RE: KF, you ever seen Three Kings?
Dec 02nd 2006
11
i actually own Thin Red Line, but never got around to watching it
Dec 02nd 2006
4
      RE: i actually own Thin Red Line, but never got around to watching it
Dec 03rd 2006
14
           thats a bold statement.
Dec 03rd 2006
15
Paths of Glory (1957)
Dec 02nd 2006
3
i didn't think Paths of Glory was that good to be honest
Dec 02nd 2006
6
That's my favorite.
Dec 02nd 2006
8
Empire of the Sun
Dec 02nd 2006
5
HBO's...
Dec 02nd 2006
7
yeah, its excellent indeed
Dec 02nd 2006
9
Band of Brothers takes it, nevermind that it's a miniseries.
Dec 03rd 2006
23
      it's got my vote
Dec 03rd 2006
30
RE: Best war movie ever made?
Dec 02nd 2006
10
RE: Sponge
Dec 03rd 2006
29
      I'd rent all of em first
Dec 04th 2006
38
      Some of 'em is playing on TV on Dec 19
Dec 07th 2006
44
the beast should be in this conversation
Dec 02nd 2006
12
i always liked
Dec 02nd 2006
13
RE: Best war movie ever made?
Dec 03rd 2006
16
I saw Tigerland last night actually....
Dec 03rd 2006
18
      Tigerland's my shit. Colin kills it in Hart's War as well
Dec 04th 2006
34
Grand Illusion is the tops
Dec 03rd 2006
17
Taegukgi
Dec 03rd 2006
19
man that movie was heavy.
Dec 05th 2006
39
why do y'all insist on sleepin' on downfall?
Dec 03rd 2006
20
still not sure how comfortable I am
Dec 03rd 2006
22
      doesn't sit well with me either...
Dec 07th 2006
49
      you're right, every portrayal of hitler should have him
Dec 14th 2006
56
peter weir's 'gallipoli'
Dec 03rd 2006
21
Full Metal Jacket by a far, far and far away margin
Dec 03rd 2006
24
I can't choose between
Dec 03rd 2006
26
It was "based" on Short Timers by Gustav Haasford but
Dec 04th 2006
36
      thats what I intended to say, but I typed it out funny
Dec 13th 2006
51
           I'm not sure we're saying *exactly* the same thing
Dec 13th 2006
52
I'll ride for Apocalypse Now in this post.
Dec 03rd 2006
25
these two
Dec 03rd 2006
27
Coming Home in a Bodybag
Dec 03rd 2006
28
When a veteran from that bullshit war says something like that...
Dec 04th 2006
33
RE: Coming Home in a Bodybag
Dec 06th 2006
41
^^^^^ These two guys get it!
Dec 07th 2006
46
Theres a few great ones
Dec 04th 2006
31
Saving Private Ryan
Dec 04th 2006
32
Come and See (Klimov, 1985)
Dec 04th 2006
35
I'd also like to say that the FX series Over There was VERY underrated
Dec 04th 2006
37
it was a good show-
Dec 05th 2006
40
      very true
Dec 07th 2006
45
nobody said Glory?
Dec 06th 2006
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cism
Dec 07th 2006
48
That's definitely a Top 5 with ease.
Dec 14th 2006
55
The Thin Red Line
Dec 06th 2006
43
my top 4 (no order)
Dec 07th 2006
47
RE: Best war movie ever made?
Dec 07th 2006
50
Apocalypse Now
Dec 13th 2006
53
Dr Strangelove deserves some love
Dec 14th 2006
54
Does 'Battle of Algiers' count?
Dec 14th 2006
57

King_Friday
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1. "RE: Best war movie ever made?"
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Here's some that I like a lot. As far as "best ever" goes, I don't know. But these are all great:

Westfront 1918 - G.W. Pabst
Hearts Of The World - D.W. Griffith
They Were Expendable - John Ford
Fixed Bayonets - Samuel Fuller
Attack - Robert Aldrich
Sands Of Iwo Jima - Allan Dwan
Hell Is For Heroes - Don Siegel
Days Of Glory - Jacques Tourneur
Air Force - Howard Hawks
The Thin Red Line - Terrence Malick

  

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2. "KF, you ever seen Three Kings?"
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If so, what'd you think of it?

And I would have pegged you for a Paths of Glory fan.

  

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11. "RE: KF, you ever seen Three Kings?"
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>If so, what'd you think of it?
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I'm not really a fan of Three Kings. I think the only movie of Russell's that I've liked so far is "I Heart Huckabees" which I thought was great.

>And I would have pegged you for a Paths of Glory fan.

I am. I just didn't happen to put it on there. I left off some other good ones too. . . Ford's "The Lost Patrol" would be one. Zoltan Korda's "Sahara" would probably count as a war movie (whatever it is, it's great).

  

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4. "i actually own Thin Red Line, but never got around to watching it"
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i need to get on that.

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14. "RE: i actually own Thin Red Line, but never got around to watching it"
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The Thin Red Line is a very long and slow-moving film. I suppose it's not to everyone's tastes, and that's fine. But for me it's definitely one of the better American films of that whole decade (the 90s). And I'm not talking just about war movies, but movies in general. It's one of the best of the American movies made in that decade.

  

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15. "thats a bold statement."
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ill definately watch it this week though... the reason i never got around to seeing it for so long was mainly its legnth, just never seemed to have the time when i was in the mood to see it.

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3. "Paths of Glory (1957)"
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Platoon (1986)
Full Metal Jacket (1987)
The Sand Pebbles (1966)
Stalag 17 (1953)

  

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6. "i didn't think Paths of Glory was that good to be honest"
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watched it too long ago to analyse it, but just wondering if anyone else is not wild about it

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8. "That's my favorite."
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then Saving Private Ryan, Apocalypse Now, Full Metal Jacket, Platoon, and Bridge on the River Kwai. (in that order)

On a side note, We Were Soldiers was a little underrated IMO. It was good but overlooked.



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5. "Empire of the Sun"
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Braveheart
Starship Troopers
The Dambusters
Guns of Navarone
Escape to Victory
Red Badge of Courage

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Why do you choose to listen to R&B?

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7. "HBO's..."
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Band Of Brothers

One could argue that it's not a movie... I'm just saying it's my favorite war DVD (set).

  

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9. "yeah, its excellent indeed"
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i dunno if u can call it a movie or whatever, but it deserves to be mentioned for sure.

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23. "Band of Brothers takes it, nevermind that it's a miniseries."
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30. "it's got my vote"
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I'm legitimately pumped anytime I see any of the actors from Band Of Brothers doing something else. That was such a fantastic series.

I watch the whole thing, 1-10 every three or four months and I haven't come close to being even slightly bored by it.

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10. "RE: Best war movie ever made?"
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Sat Dec-02-06 09:50 PM by Sponge

          

Some notables, off the top:

(Fuller): Steel Helmet; Big Red One: Special Edition/Reconstruction
(Kobayashi): Human Condition Trilogy
(Ichikawa): Fires On the Plain
(Powell & Pressburger): 49th Parallel
(Wajda): Kanal; Ashes and Diamonds (Generation is the 1st in this trilogy, but I'm not too fond of it)
(Ray): Bitter Victory

  

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29. "RE: Sponge"
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>Some notables, off the top:
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>(Fuller): Steel Helmet; Big Red One: Special
>Edition/Reconstruction
>(Kobayashi): Human Condition Trilogy
>(Ichikawa): Fires On the Plain
>(Powell & Pressburger): 49th Parallel
>(Wajda): Kanal; Ashes and Diamonds (Generation is the 1st in
>this trilogy, but I'm not too fond of it)
>(Ray): Bitter Victory

of these, which would you recommend as blind buys? (i don't have any of them...)

  

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38. "I'd rent all of em first"
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But the Human Condition Trilogy is as fine as any great war film...it's OOP, though.

Steel Helmet and Fires on the Plain are only on VHS for now (last time I checked) and Big Red One is OOP but the Special Edition/Reconstruction is out.

  

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44. "Some of 'em is playing on TV on Dec 19"
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Thanks to okaycomputer's IFC Janus films project post...I see that Fires on the Plain and Ashes and Diamonds are being shown on Dec 19.

  

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12. "the beast should be in this conversation"
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13. "i always liked"
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16. "RE: Best war movie ever made?"
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no love for tigerland?

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18. "I saw Tigerland last night actually...."
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Colin Farrell was excellent in it, but I think his performance outshined the movie, which overall i thought was so-so.

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34. "Tigerland's my shit. Colin kills it in Hart's War as well"
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as does Terrence Howard & Marcel Iures. All 3 of em outshine the lead Bruce Willis IMO.

>Colin Farrell was excellent in it, but I think his
>performance outshined the movie, which overall i thought was
>so-so.

Yeah his performance certainly was better than the movie but for a low budget boot camp flick w/ Schumacher @ the helm I thought it was pretty solid.

  

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17. "Grand Illusion is the tops"
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No better film *about* war.

Other films obviously show combat more compellingly.

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19. "Taegukgi"
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Kinda like the asian Saving Private Ryan.

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39. "man that movie was heavy."
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Saving Private Ryan looks like boyscout camp compared to that.


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20. "why do y'all insist on sleepin' on downfall?"
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should definitely be added to this...

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22. "still not sure how comfortable I am"
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with humanizing Hitler that much.

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49. "doesn't sit well with me either..."
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but still can't help but to be intrigued that Oliver Hirschbiegel WENT THERE with this film...

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56. "you're right, every portrayal of hitler should have him"
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shooting fire out of his nostrils and gnawing on the bones of children and small animals.

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21. "peter weir's 'gallipoli'"
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082432/

  

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24. "Full Metal Jacket by a far, far and far away margin"
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I'd like to add if any one enjoyed this movie please check out the novel
"Shortimers" it was based on the book is a different animal altogether

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26. "I can't choose between"
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36. "It was "based" on Short Timers by Gustav Haasford but"
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it was co-written by Michael Herr, who wrote Dispatches, and if you've read that you can see a LOT of it in the film.

  

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51. "thats what I intended to say, but I typed it out funny"
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I think the book and the movie contain many of the same elements

but the book has a much larger scope

and a bunch more "story" to it. And I love the movie.

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52. "I'm not sure we're saying *exactly* the same thing"
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I'm saying that, essentially, it's based on two books.

  

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25. "I'll ride for Apocalypse Now in this post."
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27. "these two"
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28. "Coming Home in a Bodybag"
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LOL

  

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33. "When a veteran from that bullshit war says something like that..."
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... it makes it all worthwhile.

We park our cars in the same garage my friend.


Bodybag II was almost as good.





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41. "RE: Coming Home in a Bodybag"
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LOL!!!
What about "Bodybags 2". Think that ever got finished, seeing as how the producer died in a botched police raid?

Has anybody mentioned Blackhawk Down?

For me it is a tossup between Saving Private Ryan, Platoon and Full Metal Jacket, with Blackhawk Down bringing up the rear.

  

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46. "^^^^^ These two guys get it!"
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Maybe Dick Ritchie came back, grabbed the dallies and put that shit out.

  

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31. "Theres a few great ones"
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But I just love Full Metal jacket too much to go with anything else. I mean its damn near my favourite film of any genre. I can watch it again and again and again.

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32. "Saving Private Ryan"
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n/m

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35. "Come and See (Klimov, 1985)"
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091251/

One of the most affecting films I've ever seen.

Also, even though I'm not propounding it for best war film ever, I just wanted to add that Vietnam combat veterans generally say that the combat in Hamburger Hill is the most realistic they've seen.

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37. "I'd also like to say that the FX series Over There was VERY underrated"
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i wish they would make a second season.

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40. "it was a good show-"
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but that theme music made me wanna kill somebody

worse theme than 'enterprise', even

  

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45. "very true"
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I liked the show a lot, but that theme music was cringe worthy. It was one of the show's producers or creators or something who wrote and sang that shit too.

fuuuck, I can kinda hear it in my head right now, and that makes me sad and angry...awful song.

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42. "nobody said Glory?"
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48. "cism"
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55. "That's definitely a Top 5 with ease."
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43. "The Thin Red Line"
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rewatched it just last Sunday, and some sequences are just amazing (like the attack on the Japanese camp), not to mention the usual Malick goodness

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47. "my top 4 (no order)"
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Full Metal Jacket
Apocalypse Now
Saving Private Ryan
Glory

  

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50. "RE: Best war movie ever made?"
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A SOLDIER'S STORY -- Denzel Washington's finest work.

THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN -- Larry Fishburne's finest work.

FULL METAL JACKET -- Great story. Joker's the shit.

PLATOON -- Deserved Oscar award.

SAVING PRIVATE RYAN -- A believable story.

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53. "Apocalypse Now"
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Post over!

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54. "Dr Strangelove deserves some love"
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57. "Does 'Battle of Algiers' count?"
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If so, it, and its anti-epic style, takes a position at least in the top five.

If not, 'Full Metal Jacket' was always cool to me.

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