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"Brokeback Mountain's author's panties are in quite the bunch"


  

          

'Brokeback' Author Slams Oscars

Brokeback Mountain author Annie Proulx has slated the Academy Awards for giving the Best Picture Oscar to Crash at this year's presentation ceremony. In an essay published by British newspaper The Guardian, Proulx describes voters as "out of touch" and "segregated" from current issues, and insists they were easily influenced by Crash's production company Lions Gate Entertainment. She writes, "Roughly 6,000 film industry voters, most in the Los Angeles area, many living cloistered lives behind wrought-iron gates or in deluxe rest homes, out of touch not only with the shifting larger culture and the yeasty ferment that is America these days, but also out of touch with their own segregated city, decide which films are good. And rumor has it that Lions Gate inundated the academy voters with DVD copies of 'Trash' - excuse me, Crash - a few weeks before the ballot deadline. Next year we can look to the awards for controversial themes on the punishment of adulterers with a branding iron in the shape of the letter A, runaway slaves, and the debate over free silver."

1) This makes her look like quite the sore loser. Even if she thinks she was robbed, act like a professional for fuck's sake. I don't hear word one from Bennett Miller or Steven Spielberg, or anyone associated with either production. Why? Because they sucked it up, even though deep down I'm sure they too think their film was superior.

2) Is she suggesting Hollywood is anti-gay? Isn't Los Angeles one of those "queer cities" people in Middle America refer to when talking about homosexuals and evil liberals and what not? Now LA is off that list? So it's just New York and San Francisco?

3) Is she also suggesting that racism isn't a relevant issue anymore? Regardless of what you think about Crash and how Paul Haggis tackled the issue (I really don't want to reopen that can of worms), surely you'd admit a film dealing with that topic isn't archaic. Is racism no longer a pertinent part of North American culture?

I haven't seen Brokeback Mountain, yet thanks to this cunt, I already hate it. Bravo.

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I think she's saying
Mar 15th 2006
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RE: I think she's saying
Mar 15th 2006
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RE: I think she's saying
Mar 15th 2006
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      RE: I think she's saying
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           but she didn't mention the other nominees!
Mar 15th 2006
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c'mon now...
Mar 15th 2006
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but with the nominees
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this is what she SHOULD have said
Mar 15th 2006
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      well, I am a better writer
Mar 15th 2006
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      and co-sign that too n/m
Mar 16th 2006
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      co-sign n/m
Mar 16th 2006
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RE: Brokeback Mountain's author's panties are in quite the bunch
Mar 15th 2006
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I was rooting for Brokeback...but...
Mar 15th 2006
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the gays are worse than seahawks fans
Mar 15th 2006
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Don't start with that LOL
Mar 15th 2006
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hey hey hey now...lol
Mar 15th 2006
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the plea copping is definitely starting to reach that level
Mar 16th 2006
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hehe >>> rooting for Brokeback...
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It's been said already but "It's an award show"
Mar 15th 2006
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I like the shit talk
Mar 15th 2006
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Oh, well they did edit out this part from the end:
Mar 15th 2006
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Like Apatow and the guy from That 70's Show?
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What's Beef (Screenwriter's Edition)?
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That's gay.
Mar 15th 2006
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hah
Mar 16th 2006
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What a bitch.
Mar 15th 2006
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Here's what I think...
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Full article (swipe)
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      Wow, now I hate her even more.
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      perhaps because Taraji Henson murdered that last note?
Mar 20th 2006
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      this article is almost as bad as Crash
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      LOL! nm
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      So, Hollywood is full of closeted conservative homophobes who like to
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      bravo.
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      yeah she acts like that same "dim LA crowd"
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      ^^^^ etherous GUILE
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      As for her scientology conspiracy theory
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      these grapes went from sour to salty
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RE: Brokeback Mountain's author's panties are in quite the bunch
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Hollywood is thoroughly anti-gay, dude.
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question about brokeback tho
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dude, he never turns the guy gay
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this movie isn't about two gay men?
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      you think there's just one legitimate gay
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           um, what?
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                The post heading and comment are one sentence.
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                     nah, I read thme as one statemnt
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no.
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RE: Hollywood is thoroughly anti-gay, dude.
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      no it deserves Best Picture b/c
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She, as well as all Crash/Three 6 Mafia haters, need to read this.
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If it's over, QUIT POSTING...
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      Any more brilliance you want to share with us?
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Crash was good and everything, but Brokeback is for the children!
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Wow! She pulled a Kanye on the Oscars!
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OSCARS SHOULD NOT BE AWARDED FOR "CONTROVERSY"!!!!!!!
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Brokeback was a boring piece of shit
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crackin up
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*feels even MORE validated for thinking crash should've won*
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Who gives a fuck?
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DrNO
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1. "I think she's saying"
In response to Reply # 0
Wed Mar-15-06 03:24 AM by DrNO

  

          

that Hollywood is made up of stereotypical lightweight liberals, that they aren't genuinley progressive. She's not saying discussion of racism is obsolete but that the broad and insultingly cursory insight into it that Crash offers would be clearly outdated to anyone who could genuinely claim to be progressive.
In contrast Brokeback Mountain can tell a complex and unapolegitic story about a Gay relationship without resorting to the kind of broad "gay people are people too!" lessons movies like Philadelphia were obliged to over a decade ago.

She's bitter about losing to a piece of shit, not losing in general. There's nothing wrong with that. She'd probably be irked if she had nothing to do with the awards like a load of other people are. Cronenberg chimed in with the same sentiment last week.

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CMcMurtry
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4. "RE: I think she's saying"
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Wed Mar-15-06 03:37 AM by CMcMurtry

  

          

>that Hollywood is made up of stereotypical lightweight
>liberals, that they aren't genuinley progressive. She's not
>saying discussion of racism is obsolete but that the broad and
>insultingly cursory insight into it that Crash offers would be
>clearly outdated to anyone who could genuinely claim to be
>progressive.

You got this out of "Next year we can look to the awards for controversial themes on the punishment of adulterers with a branding iron in the shape of the letter A, runaway slaves, and the debate over free silver."? For real?

That may be what you think (obviously, it is), but I do not think that is what she was saying.

Perhaps she wasn't refering to Crash, but the other nominees like Munich and Good Night..., both of which deal with historical issues. However, if so, then she's a retard, because though each deals with a story that is many years old, they're both quite relevant to what is going on now. Munich deals with the Middle East saga, and that sure hasn't changed much since the dates in the film, and Clooney's movie is very timely.

How can a comparison to a movie about "the debate over free silver" be logical and seen as anything but a dillusional woman angry she didn't win.

>In contrast Brokeback Mountain can tell a complex and
>unapolegitic story about a Gay relationship without resorting
>to the kind of broad "gay people are people too!" lessons
>movies like Philadelphia were obliged to over a decade ago.

Yawn.

>She's bitter about losing to a piece of shit, not losing in
>general. There's nothing wrong with that.

Sure there is. It's an award show. People lose. Don't be a fucking crybaby. Man the fuck up already.

> She'd probably be
>irked if she had nothing to do with the awards like a load of
>other people are. Cronenberg chimed in with the same sentiment
>last week.

No he didn't. He chimed in that he was upset he wasn't even nominated, and that he felt like that was because his film wasn't political enough for them, based on what did get the nod.

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6. "RE: I think she's saying"
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>Perhaps she wasn't refering to Crash, but the other nominees
>like Munich and Good Night..., both of which deal with
>historical issues. However, if so, then she's a retard,
>because though each deals with a story that is many years old,
>they're both quite relevant to what is going on now. Munich
>deals with the Middle East saga, and that sure hasn't changed
>much since the dates in the film, and Clooney's movie is very
>timely.
>
>How can a comparison to a movie about "the debate over free
>silver" be logical and seen as anything but a dillusional
>woman angry she didn't win.

But she is talking about Crash, she makes no reference to the other nominees at all.

>>In contrast Brokeback Mountain can tell a complex and
>>unapolegitic story about a Gay relationship without
>resorting
>>to the kind of broad "gay people are people too!" lessons
>>movies like Philadelphia were obliged to over a decade ago.
>
>Yawn.

It's true though. If you're willing to just completely dismiss the underlying reason of her anger as tired what's the point of getting mad at her?

>>She's bitter about losing to a piece of shit, not losing in
>>general. There's nothing wrong with that.
>
>Sure there is. It's an award show. People lose. Don't be a
>fucking crybaby. Man the fuck up already.

I'm not sure if there are any tear stains in the stationary she wrote that on. She's a writer, she can whip up strong words like this in her sleep.

>> She'd probably be
>>irked if she had nothing to do with the awards like a load
>of
>>other people are. Cronenberg chimed in with the same
>sentiment
>>last week.
>
>No he didn't. He chimed in that he was upset he wasn't even
>nominated, and that he felt like that was because his film
>wasn't political enough for them, based on what did get the
>nod.

I think there was an implication in his statement that the voters were too stupid to grasp a complex message.

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CMcMurtry
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7. "RE: I think she's saying"
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>>Perhaps she wasn't refering to Crash, but the other
>nominees
>>like Munich and Good Night..., both of which deal with
>>historical issues. However, if so, then she's a retard,
>>because though each deals with a story that is many years
>old,
>>they're both quite relevant to what is going on now. Munich
>>deals with the Middle East saga, and that sure hasn't
>changed
>>much since the dates in the film, and Clooney's movie is
>very
>>timely.
>>
>>How can a comparison to a movie about "the debate over free
>>silver" be logical and seen as anything but a dillusional
>>woman angry she didn't win.
>
>But she is talking about Crash, she makes no reference to the
>other nominees at all.

She referenced next year's potential nominees, and named more than one, which I took as a shot at the others as well. It's not enough to be mad at the film that beat you, you're mad it wasn't five gay movies up for the award?

>It's true though. If you're willing to just completely dismiss
>the underlying reason of her anger as tired what's the point
>of getting mad at her?

Because it's sour grapes. Take your L like a (wo)man.

>I think there was an implication in his statement that the
>voters were too stupid to grasp a complex message.

I didn't get that impression. I took it as him saying, this year, they wanted more overtly political films, and his wasn't that, and thus, he didn't get a nomination.

And even when doing that, he didn't take any shots at the other films that did get nominated (except for Crash, and that was more because he thought they were biting him for the title rather than it's quality or lack there of).

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16. "but she didn't mention the other nominees!"
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the made-up films that will be nominated next year are movies that, inspired by Crash, will be simplistic and out-dated topical films.

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20. "c'mon now..."
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>that Hollywood is made up of stereotypical lightweight
>liberals, that they aren't genuinley progressive. She's not
>saying discussion of racism is obsolete but that the broad and
>insultingly cursory insight into it that Crash offers would be
>clearly outdated to anyone who could genuinely claim to be
>progressive.

it's fucking hollywood...majority of the time folks are just tryin to make money, sometimes they have a "point" in that money making scheme but often times not...to say that she's just realizin that people in hollywood could be full of shit lets me know she needs the mother of all late passes...i rarely see anything progressive about hollywood, and CMac is right, she needs to let this one go..even if crash isn't such a great film...

>In contrast Brokeback Mountain can tell a complex and
>unapolegitic story about a Gay relationship without resorting
>to the kind of broad "gay people are people too!" lessons
>movies like Philadelphia were obliged to over a decade ago.
>
>She's bitter about losing to a piece of shit, not losing in
>general. There's nothing wrong with that. She'd probably be
>irked if she had nothing to do with the awards like a load of
>other people are. Cronenberg chimed in with the same sentiment
>last week.

yeah, but she sould be mad she hasn't womn any literary awards, or that BM didn't win best sceeplay (or did it?) i can understand her pisstivity, but she should move on after this statement...

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29. "but with the nominees"
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four of which were offering relatively uncompromising view of relevant issues and Clooney's "I'm pround to be part of such a progressive instituion" speech the Academy is trying to act as though they're interested in more than profits. The LA Times called it bullshit, she can too.
I'm sure she's moved on.

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25. "this is what she SHOULD have said"
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>that Hollywood is made up of stereotypical lightweight
>liberals, that they aren't genuinley progressive. She's not
>saying discussion of racism is obsolete but that the broad and
>insultingly cursory insight into it that Crash offers would be
>clearly outdated to anyone who could genuinely claim to be
>progressive.
>In contrast Brokeback Mountain can tell a complex and
>unapolegitic story about a Gay relationship without resorting
>to the kind of broad "gay people are people too!" lessons
>movies like Philadelphia were obliged to over a decade ago.

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30. "well, I am a better writer"
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I'll grant you that.

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43. "and co-sign that too n/m"
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n/m

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42. "co-sign n/m"
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n/m

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2. "RE: Brokeback Mountain's author's panties are in quite the bunch"
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she also seems to think that it it the 'most controversial film' award. this chick is worse than Kanye.

  

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3. "I was rooting for Brokeback...but..."
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At this point, let it go.

It's silly all the ads they took out in Variety, Hollywood Reporter, etc.

To hear this shit more than a week later IS sour grapes...no way around that. Give it up. Bad form.

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14. "Don't start with that LOL"
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But now that you mention it, it's robbery all over again. (Though the Hawks weren't robbed so much as shot in the foot.)

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18. "hey hey hey now...lol"
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44. "the plea copping is definitely starting to reach that level"
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"i smack clowns with nouns, punch herbs with verbs..."

  

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9. "hehe >>> rooting for Brokeback..."
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5. "It's been said already but "It's an award show""
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When the Oscars mean something, it'll be a bad sign for society. Who cares. So you didn't get a statue for best picture. Very few groundbreaking films do. Get over it.

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I would appreciate if more scriptwriters start trashing each other. I think most professions could learn a bit from the ways of WWE.

  

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12. "Oh, well they did edit out this part from the end:"
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15. "Like Apatow and the guy from That 70's Show?"
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It's in the archives somewhere.

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27. "What's Beef (Screenwriter's Edition)?"
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11. "That's gay."
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13. "What a bitch."
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I'm not a huge fan of either of these films, which to me, were clearly the worst of the bunch for best picture.

She should be flattered just to be nominated for this trite, predictable, but well-shot and acted love story.

  

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17. "Here's what I think..."
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First off, in order to place her comments in context, everyone should really read her piece in the Guardian, not just the excerpts printed above. Here's a link:
http://books.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1727309,00.html

That said, let me respond briefly to the points made above:

>1) This makes her look like quite the sore loser. Even if she
>thinks she was robbed, act like a professional for fuck's
>sake. I don't hear word one from Bennett Miller or Steven
>Spielberg, or anyone associated with either production. Why?
>Because they sucked it up, even though deep down I'm sure they
>too think their film was superior.

I disagree. I found her tone refreshingly truthful - artists, whether they're writers, directors, whatever, are going to be emotionally invested in their work. Everyone wants to get recognized for their work, and all the nominees who lost probably felt something similar to what Proulx is expressing in her piece. The article is written as a subjective, first hand account from somebody who didn't win an Oscar they were expecting, and I think she conveys her frustration effectively. If she was being gracious and tactful, the article wouldn't work - its about her point of view, not making nice with the winners.

>2) Is she suggesting Hollywood is anti-gay? Isn't Los Angeles
>one of those "queer cities" people in Middle America refer to
>when talking about homosexuals and evil liberals and what not?
>Now LA is off that list? So it's just New York and San
>Francisco?

I've read other critics who shared this perspective, and offered some good evidence to back it up. In particular, they brought up the fact that there has NEVER been an openly gay movie star in Hollywood. While Hollywood does make movies dealing with gay themes, they usually employ straight actors, as in Brokeback. Typically, serious movies about gay themes are the territory of independent films, as Hollywood studios have traditionally shied away from the topic. I don't know if I really buy the notion that Brokeback lost because Academy members were scared of the gay theme, but Proulx isn't the first one to express the thought.

>3) Is she also suggesting that racism isn't a relevant issue
>anymore? Regardless of what you think about Crash and how Paul
>Haggis tackled the issue (I really don't want to reopen that
>can of worms), surely you'd admit a film dealing with that
>topic isn't archaic. Is racism no longer a pertinent part of
>North American culture?

You make a valid point here. I agree that she is implying that racism is an outdated topic, and in this respect, she's dead wrong. While I agree with Proulx that gay rights are a very timely and important issue, racism is certainly still a relevant and valid topic to address in film, and to suggest otherwise is just wrong. I also think that in the passage you quote, she sounds as if she's judging the worth of the films nominated on irrelevant criteria. Best Picture is not about social relevance, or controversy, it's about film-making. So, she's making a very poor case against Crash here. But, as I pointed out, her article is not intended as a critical essay, or a well-reasoned argument; she's writing her personal reflections on the experience she had at the Oscars.

>I haven't seen Brokeback Mountain, yet thanks to this cunt, I
>already hate it. Bravo.

I haven't seen Crash, myself, but I liked Brokeback quite a bit. It seems silly to judge the film based on your opinion of the person who wrote the short story it was based on, though. And calling her the C-word is just uncalled for. Nobody should ever call a woman that, period.

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Taken from:
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Blood on the red carpet

Annie Proulx on how her Brokeback Oscar hopes were dashed by Crash

On the sidewalk stood hordes of the righteous, some leaning forward like wind-bent grasses, the better to deliver their imprecations against gays and fags to the open windows of the limos - the windows open by order of the security people - creeping toward the Kodak Theater for the 78th Academy Awards. Others held up sturdy, professionally crafted signs expressing the same hatred.

The red carpet in front of the theatre was larger than the Red Sea. Inside, we climbed grand staircases designed for showing off dresses. The circular levels filled with men in black, the women mostly in pale, frothy gowns. Sequins, diamonds, glass beads, trade beads sparkled like the interior of a salt mine. More exquisite dresses appeared every moment, some made from six yards of taffeta, and many with sweeping trains that demanded vigilance from strolling attendees lest they step on a mermaid's tail. There was one man in a kilt - there is always one at award ceremonies - perhaps a professional roving Scot hired to give colour to the otherwise monotone showing of clustered males. Larry McMurtry defied the dress code by wearing his usual jeans and cowboy boots.

The people connected with Brokeback Mountain, including me, hoped that, having been nominated for eight Academy awards, it would get Best Picture as it had at the funny, lively Independent Spirit awards the day before. (If you are looking for smart judging based on merit, skip the Academy Awards next year and pay attention to the Independent Spirit choices.) We should have known conservative heffalump academy voters would have rather different ideas of what was stirring contemporary culture. Roughly 6,000 film industry voters, most in the Los Angeles area, many living cloistered lives behind wrought-iron gates or in deluxe rest-homes, out of touch not only with the shifting larger culture and the yeasty ferment that is America these days, but also out of touch with their own segregated city, decide which films are good. And rumour has it that Lions Gate inundated the academy voters with DVD copies of Trash - excuse me - Crash a few weeks before the ballot deadline. Next year we can look to the awards for controversial themes on the punishment of adulterers with a branding iron in the shape of the letter A, runaway slaves, and the debate over free silver.

After a good deal of standing around admiring dresses and sucking up champagne, people obeyed the stentorian countdown commands to get in their seats as "the show" was about to begin. There were orders to clap and the audience obediently clapped. From the first there was an atmosphere of insufferable self-importance emanating from "the show" which, as the audience was reminded several times, was televised and being watched by billions of people all over the world. Those lucky watchers could get up any time they wished and do something worthwhile, like go to the bathroom. As in everything related to public extravaganzas, a certain soda pop figured prominently. There were montages, artfully meshed clips of films of yesteryear, live acts by Famous Talent, smart-ass jokes by Jon Stewart who was witty and quick, too witty, too quick, too eastern perhaps for the somewhat dim LA crowd. Both beautiful and household-name movie stars announced various prizes. None of the acting awards came Brokeback's way, you betcha. The prize, as expected, went to Philip Seymour Hoff-man for his brilliant portrayal of Capote, but in the months preceding the awards thing, there has been little discussion of acting styles and various approaches to character development by this year's nominees. Hollywood loves mimicry, the conversion of a film actor into the spittin' image of a once-living celeb. But which takes more skill, acting a person who strolled the boulevard a few decades ago and who left behind tapes, film, photographs, voice recordings and friends with strong memories, or the construction of characters from imagination and a few cold words on the page? I don't know. The subject never comes up. Cheers to David Strathairn, Joaquin Phoenix and Hoffman, but what about actors who start in the dark?

Everyone thanked their dear old mums, scout troop leaders, kids and consorts. More commercials, more quick wit, more clapping, beads of sweat, Stewart maybe wondering what evil star had lighted his way to this labour. Despite the technical expertise and flawlessly sleek set evocative of 1930s musicals, despite Dolly Parton whooping it up and Itzhak Perlman blending all the theme music into a single performance (he represented "culchah"), there was a kind of provincial flavour to the proceedings reminiscent of a small-town talent-show night. Clapping wildly for bad stuff enhances this. There came an atrocious act from Hustle and Flow, Three 6 Mafia's violent rendition of "It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp", a favourite with the audience who knew what it knew and liked. This was a big winner, a bushel of the magic gold-coated gelded godlings going to the rap group.

The hours sped by on wings of boiler plate. Brokeback's first award was to Argentinean Gustavo Santaolalla for the film's plangent and evocative score. Later came the expected award for screenplay adaptation to Diana Ossana and Larry McMurtry, and only a short time later the director's award to Ang Lee. And that was it, three awards, putting it on equal footing with King Kong. When Jack Nicholson said best picture went to Crash, there was a gasp of shock, and then applause from many - the choice was a hit with the home team since the film is set in Los Angeles. It was a safe pick of "controversial film" for the heffalumps.

After three-and-a-half hours of butt-numbing sitting we stumbled away, down the magnificent staircases, and across the red carpet. In the distance men were shouting out limousine numbers, "406 . . . 27 . . . 921 . . . 62" and it seemed someone should yell "Bingo!" It was now dark, or as dark as it gets in the City of Angels. As we waited for our number to be called we could see the enormous lighted marquee across the street announcing that the "2006 Academy Award for Best Picture had gone to Crash". The red carpet now had taken on a different hue, a purple tinge.

The source of the colour was not far away. Down the street, spreading its baleful light everywhere, hung a gigantic, vertical, electric-blue neon sign spelling out S C I E N T O L O G Y.

"Seven oh six," bawled the limo announcer's voice. Bingo.

For those who call this little piece a Sour Grapes Rant, play it as it lays.

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22. "Wow, now I hate her even more."
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>There came an atrocious act from Hustle and Flow, Three
>6 Mafia's violent rendition of "It's Hard Out Here for a
>Pimp", a favourite with the audience who knew what it knew and
>liked.

How was it a "violent rendition"? And yes, they knew what they liked, and it wasn't your movie. Boo hoo.

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61. "perhaps because Taraji Henson murdered that last note?"
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24. "this article is almost as bad as Crash"
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almost

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26. ""
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49. "LOL! nm"
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nm

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34. "So, Hollywood is full of closeted conservative homophobes who like to"
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play dressup and pat themselves on the back every year. Wow, stop the fucking presses.

It is with great pleasure that I say, Fuck Anne Proulx. Fuck her and the high horse she rode in on. Instead of congratulating the people who took her little shitty, 11-page finger fuck fantasy about macho cowboys who are *really gay deep down inside*, because all men are, she writes a petulant essay on how the movie won as many Oscars as King Kong, which apparently to her is the equivalent of Soul Plane sweeping the major awards. Her petulant essay is really a thinly-veiled excuse for her to bitch and moan about The State of Hollywood, and How Fake It All Is Out Here. Except for the Independent Spirit Awards, which were like, fun. Fuck her. Had that movie won Best Picture, her ass wouldn't have written shit. And what really pisses me off is the fact that she could have taken a couple of those sentences and congratulated Larry McMurtry and Diana Ossana, you know, the writers of the film, for essentially turning water into wine. In other words, she pissed away the chance to, you know, actually show some class.

What's funny is, the same Indie awards she praised featured pretty much the same people she slammed at the Oscars.

What's next, an essay from J.K. "Harry Potter" Rowling on the decaying state of the Hollywood studio system?

Basically, Annie Proulx can go fuck herself. With a horseshoe.
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39. "bravo."
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51. "yeah she acts like that same "dim LA crowd""
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wasn't up the street the day before at the Indie Spirit Awards

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54. "^^^^ etherous GUILE"
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Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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40. "As for her scientology conspiracy theory"
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I guess that explains all those Oscars that have been awarded to Tom Cruise, John Travolta, and Jenna Elfman. Oh, wait...

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45. "these grapes went from sour to salty"
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somewhere around the point she started critiquing hoffman, strathairn and phoenix's performances, and telling us we need to reevaluate the way we judge actors. the fuck does someone who writes books know about how difficult it is to portray one character over another? and it really just got worse from there.

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21. "RE: Brokeback Mountain's author's panties are in quite the bunch"
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I think that she just realized what a hollow, self absorbed, self aggrandizing, inane, pointless, rife with a total lack of standards, celebrity celebrating, excuse to dress up in excessively expensive clothes and jewels (which were mined by poor african children by the way) lie The Oscars are.

She is probably having to deal with feelings of disillusionment. Give her some time.

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23. "Hollywood is thoroughly anti-gay, dude."
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they like the gays only if we're playing the foil or the companion, they don't so much see us real ppl. it's rare you see a Hollywood movie that presents a gay character as a whole person, we're always 1 dimensional. it's why i knew Brokeback wasn't gonna win the Best Picture award from the Academy...they can't deal w/seeing the gays on screen that way, as ppl w/conflicts and complications. well, w/conflicts other than struggling w/AIDS or homophobia, that is. a gay love story? LOL no way. luckily Crash came along to save the Academy from itself.

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28. "question about brokeback tho"
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how is that movie itself not antigay?

now take into consideration I haven't seen the movie,

but from what I've read about it, it sounds like it was written by a homophobe. One dude turns another guy out to the gay lifestyle in a tent in the wilderness, leading to his eventual beating death by other homophobes.

If a dude made a post in GD about how some other guy invited him to share a blanket in cold weather, I'd think that some of the ogheyplayers would come running to talk about how insecure the guy is. but thats just my impression of the flick, prolly tainted by my own homophobia (or am I a homo? shit I caught the gay and I only saw the trailer!!!!!!)




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31. "dude, he never turns the guy gay"
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32. "this movie isn't about two gay men?"
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33. "you think there's just one legitimate gay"
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dude in the world who's just tricked thousands of confused men to lie down in his bed?

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37. "The post heading and comment are one sentence."
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Not two individual statements, like I think both of us thought.

  

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55. "no."
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>how is that movie itself not antigay?
>
>now take into consideration I haven't seen the movie,

.

>but from what I've read about it, it sounds like it was
>written by a homophobe. One dude turns another guy out to the
>gay lifestyle in a tent in the wilderness, leading to his
>eventual beating death by other homophobes.

whoa whoa whoa. no 1 turned anyone out. there's no such implication in the story.

>If a dude made a post in GD about how some other guy invited
>him to share a blanket in cold weather, I'd think that some of
>the ogheyplayers would come running to talk about how insecure
>the guy is. but thats just my impression of the flick, prolly
>tainted by my own homophobia (or am I a homo? shit I caught
>the gay and I only saw the trailer!!!!!!)

LOL

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47. "RE: Hollywood is thoroughly anti-gay, dude."
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>it's why i knew Brokeback
>wasn't gonna win the Best Picture award from the
>Academy...they can't deal w/seeing the gays on screen that
>way, as ppl w/conflicts and complications. well, w/conflicts
>other than struggling w/AIDS or homophobia, that is. a gay
>love story? LOL no way. luckily Crash came along to save
>the Academy from itself.

So, just because Brokeback depicted gays in this fashion it deserves an oscar for best picture?

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56. "no it deserves Best Picture b/c"
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it was the best Hollywood movie of 2005. it's that simple.

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36. "She, as well as all Crash/Three 6 Mafia haters, need to read this."
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They won.

It's over.

Get on with your lives.

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dumbass.

  

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Because if not, then I have a nice, tall glass of Shut the Fuck Up with your name on it.
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46. "Crash was good and everything, but Brokeback is for the children!"
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48. "Wow! She pulled a Kanye on the Oscars!"
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I think Brokeback Mountain should have won, because of the direction, performances, cinematography aka because it was a good movie. Not for any political or social reason.

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50. "OSCARS SHOULD NOT BE AWARDED FOR "CONTROVERSY"!!!!!!!"
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Goddammit people! Listen, I hate Crash as much as everyone else, but you shouldnt have to win the Oscar based on if the movie has a controversial story that deals with current ills. It should win because ITS A FUCKING GREAT MOVIE! dammit!

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ncr2h
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57. "Brokeback was a boring piece of shit"
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that movie was unbearable. So fucking boring. I think supporters of this movie are really supporting the idea of a movie like Brokeback Mountain, not the actual product we got: Brokeback Mountain. If that was a story about straight people cheating on their wives, it seriously would have been the worst movie in the history of the earth. And there have been some bad ones. Monkeybone, Extreme Ops, Torque...it would have been worse than all of those combined. Brokeback was so bad that it would have been more exciting if there was more gay sex. That's how bad it was. There is no other movie I can say that about.

It was so bad...don't make a movie about undercover gays if that's all it's about. Or at least make it exciting. Boondock Saints was exciting, and it was fine that the detective was gay because he was such a beast that everyone accepted it. Why isn't that revolutionary? He was great. Brokeback Mountain was just boring shit...I turn on an episode of Cheaters on WB @ midnight and I get 100x the excitement.

  

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58. "crackin up"
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Brokeback was so
>bad that it would have been more exciting if there was more
>gay sex. That's how bad it was. There is no other movie I
>can say that about.

  

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Basaglia
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59. "*feels even MORE validated for thinking crash should've won*"
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60. "Who gives a fuck?"
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I mean, really?

I think there are bigger problems in the world other than Borkeback not winning the Oscar....

The fucking San Francisco Chronicle did a FRONT PAGE article musing abt why Brokeback didnt win....

Martin Scorsese doesnt have an Oscar. Crunchy Black and Eminem do. You do the math...

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