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"Die Hard With a Vengence...G.A.M.O.A.T.?"


  

          

Greatest Action Movie of All Time? absolutely.

1) excellent story - was originally suppose 2 be a seperate movie altogether called Simon Says about a cop who pissed off some mystery man and has to go around NYC and defuse these bombs before they go off. so its really TWO movies in one.

2) Easily the three best action car (is that a term?) sequences in the past decade shot on film. When john mclane drives through the park, the whole dump truck in the tunnel scene, and the car shootout scene in the rain. classic shit.

3) the chemistry between jackson and willis was better than Gibson and Glover IMO.

4) the only downfall was the ending...it was weak.

  

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you're out of you're element donnie
Jan 07th 2006
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LOL
Jan 07th 2006
2
Its not even the second best Die Hard movie
Jan 07th 2006
3
Uh, yes it is.
Jan 07th 2006
11
2 is awful
Jan 07th 2006
20
Agreed
Jan 08th 2006
35
right... so if 1 is the best Die Hard movie....
Jan 08th 2006
26
I really want to see the network TV version
Jan 07th 2006
4
please tell me you're joking.
Jan 08th 2006
27
yippee kay yay mr. falcon!
Jan 10th 2006
43
      miggy figgy>>>>>>mr. falcon!
Jan 10th 2006
45
No
Jan 07th 2006
5
RE: Die Hard With a Vengence...G.A.M.O.A.T.?
Jan 07th 2006
6
yall smokin' crack!
Jan 07th 2006
7
no.
Jan 07th 2006
9
because it isn't better than:
Jan 07th 2006
10
      Nice list
Jan 07th 2006
13
      very good list
Jan 07th 2006
14
           Die Hard 3 is a piece of shit and so is Bad Boys
Jan 07th 2006
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           there's nothing wack about Die Hard 3
Jan 07th 2006
18
                there was very little special effects in DH3 though
Jan 08th 2006
33
                RE: there's nothing wack about Die Hard 3
Jan 09th 2006
36
lethal weapon 1/2. terminator 2. die hard. true lies. the killer. hardbo...
Jan 07th 2006
8
Have you seen True Lies in the last decade?
Jan 07th 2006
12
      Dude -- I had a college Shakespeare where we watched True Lies
Jan 07th 2006
17
      ROFL
Jan 08th 2006
29
      Just for the Jamie Lee Curtis scene alone TL is the GOAT
Jan 08th 2006
34
           Tia Carrere was/is hotter
Jan 09th 2006
37
                She's hotter but she didn't have the hottest scene
Jan 10th 2006
40
no. not even close.
Jan 07th 2006
16
I wouldn't call it the G.A.M.O.A.T.
Jan 07th 2006
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I can't believe people think Die Hard 2 was better than Die Hard 3
Jan 07th 2006
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      RE: I can't believe people think Die Hard 2 was better than Die Hard 3
Jan 07th 2006
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           plus die hard 2 has Franco Nero
Jan 07th 2006
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           It DID have great action sequences...
Jan 08th 2006
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           because it's ridiculous.
Jan 08th 2006
28
           co-sign
Jan 08th 2006
30
i spent too much time on here.. i knew what "G.A.M.O.A.T" meant...
Jan 08th 2006
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lol disturbing isnt it?
Jan 08th 2006
31
very. lol.
Jan 10th 2006
39
tbh, i thought it meant "Ghey Ass Movie Of All Time". that would be
Jan 10th 2006
44
      RE: tbh, i thought it meant "Ghey Ass Movie Of All Time". that would be
Jan 10th 2006
46
people need to stop the Ture Lies shit
Jan 08th 2006
32
it got one of my favorite lines ever
Jan 10th 2006
38
y'all can hate all you want, Bad Boys II was the shit.
Jan 10th 2006
41
didn't have the chemistry of the 1st and overshot the mark
Jan 10th 2006
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i don't know about all that but i do know...
Jan 10th 2006
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navajo joe
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1. "you're out of you're element donnie"
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"Regardless if you listen to me, in the end we'll see."
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2. "LOL"
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3. "Its not even the second best Die Hard movie"
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11. "Uh, yes it is."
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Die Hard 2 has terrible supporting characters and a totally convoluted first act.

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20. "2 is awful"
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35. "Agreed"
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1 set the standard for years, 2 was a loss of form (much like Home Alone 2, the same shit happens to the same guy on the holiday? Come on!) 3 was much better put together, but with a lame ass ending

That and I swear they messed up the water jug puzzle...

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26. "right... so if 1 is the best Die Hard movie...."
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then how the fuck is Vengeance the GAMOAT or whatever the anagram thing is.

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4. "I really want to see the network TV version"
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where Bruce Willis wore a sign that said "I Hate Everybody."

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27. "please tell me you're joking."
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43. "yippee kay yay mr. falcon!"
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45. "miggy figgy>>>>>>mr. falcon!"
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5. "No"
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6. "RE: Die Hard With a Vengence...G.A.M.O.A.T.?"
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>Greatest Action Movie of All Time? absolutely.


Crap.

And Sam needed to stop yelling/screaming. I understand it was early 90's though.

  

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7. "yall smokin' crack!"
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how isn't this the best action movie ever made? seriously....

  

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9. "no."
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10. "because it isn't better than:"
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die hard
hardboiled
the killer
predator
lethal weapon
extreme prejudice

i'd agree with you on your views of black women before i'd agree w/ your views on movie

kindly return to GD

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13. "Nice list"
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14. "very good list"
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and coincidentally, most of those movies came out in the 80's, there hasn't been a really great action movie to come out since the 80's IMO (minus bad boys) but i personally believe DIE HARD 3 beat all of them.

a movie that grossed damn near 300 million overseas and 100 mil domestically can't be as whack as yall make it out to be...

  

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15. "Die Hard 3 is a piece of shit and so is Bad Boys"
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Terminator 2
Aliens
True Lies
The Predator
Hard Boiled
Total Recall
Die Hard 2
Die Hard

Are all superior to dh3 and bb in every way possible

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18. "there's nothing wack about Die Hard 3"
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But you said, GAMOAT
not GAMOSTN (Greatest Action Movies since the 1990s)

and in that case Bad Boys 2 trumps it in terms of action set pieces (the car chase scene made Matrix Reloaded look like a good game of Rad Racer) but is, of course, not on the level in terms of story.

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33. "there was very little special effects in DH3 though"
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the only scenes that really used CGI was when they jumped off the boat and the water in the aquaduct scene...

but that car chase scene in the park, no fuck it, the whole segment of them in downtown manhattan trying to find that second bomb..the shootout scene in the rain out there on the interstate all was classic hollywood shit - no CGI...now, the car chase scene in BB2 was stuff of legends, but without CGI that shit aint happening.

and i'll give it to you, the last part of DH3 was shaky, and the alternate ending on the DVD was even WORSE. but I still think it was best despite that...its rare for an ACTION movie's storyline to actually damn near outweigh the action but I think DH3 did it very well.

  

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36. "RE: there's nothing wack about Die Hard 3"
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>But you said, GAMOAT
>not GAMOSTN (Greatest Action Movies since the 1990s)
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>and in that case Bad Boys 2 trumps it in terms of action set
>pieces (the car chase scene made Matrix Reloaded look like a
>good game of Rad Racer) but is, of course, not on the level in
>terms of story.

LOL @ Rad Racer. Least you didnt stoop 2 Pole Position or RC Pro Am.

  

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8. "lethal weapon 1/2. terminator 2. die hard. true lies. the killer. hardbo..."
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die hard with a vengeance was dope but not doper than these.

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12. "Have you seen True Lies in the last decade?"
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17. "Dude -- I had a college Shakespeare where we watched True Lies"
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Okay, I'm lying, I was enrolled in the class but stopped attending about 2/3 of the way through because it wasn't very stimulating. I heard from my classmates that they were watching it even though I wasn't attending any more. As such, I have no fucking idea why they were watching True Lies in a college Shakespeare class (upper-division, too, mind you) because I wasn't there to hear the professor justify it.

Somewhat predictably, my choice to stop attending that class might end up getting between me and my degree in May (unexpected cancellation this semester). It turns out Schwarzenegger is out to get me no matter what I fucking do.

  

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29. "ROFL"
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damn ock.

  

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34. "Just for the Jamie Lee Curtis scene alone TL is the GOAT"
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37. "Tia Carrere was/is hotter"
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Hell. Even young ass Eliza Dushku...umm...nevermind.

  

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40. "She's hotter but she didn't have the hottest scene"
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16. "no. not even close."
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19. "I wouldn't call it the G.A.M.O.A.T."
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I'd rank the following higher:

Die Hard 2
Die Hard 1
T2
Aliens
Speed
Lethal Weapon 2
Predator
EDIT: Total Recall "See you at the pahty Rickta!"

but it is truly underappreciated. I think once you hit "three" in any movie series, people expect a significant drop off in quality, but DH: With a Vengeance was still a quality flick. I like how it went back to Hans Gruber and how "Simon" used the same strategy of smoke and mirrors to hide his true endgame that Hans did.
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21. "I can't believe people think Die Hard 2 was better than Die Hard 3"
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22. "RE: I can't believe people think Die Hard 2 was better than Die Hard 3"
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Yeah and I stand by my statement. I truly don't understand why people hate Die Hard 2. I thought it had some great action sequences and I had *no* problem following the plot.


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23. "plus die hard 2 has Franco Nero"
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oh, DJANGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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25. "It DID have great action sequences..."
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And I could follow the plot too, but it was still muddled in the 1st act, plus it's biggest downfall is the severe lack of well-written supporting characters, something it's counterparts have plenty of.

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28. "because it's ridiculous."
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die hard 2 is a terrible movie.

  

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30. "co-sign"
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>Yeah and I stand by my statement. I truly don't understand
>why people hate Die Hard 2. I thought it had some great
>action sequences and I had *no* problem following the plot.
die hard 3 felt about 30 minutes too long....definitely my least liked of the trilogy.

  

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24. "i spent too much time on here.. i knew what "G.A.M.O.A.T" meant..."
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before i read the post.

smh.

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31. "lol disturbing isnt it?"
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39. "very. lol."
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44. "tbh, i thought it meant "Ghey Ass Movie Of All Time". that would be"
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Gymkata, though.


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46. "RE: tbh, i thought it meant "Ghey Ass Movie Of All Time". that would be"
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>Gymkata, though.

O_E would argue Alexander

  

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32. "people need to stop the Ture Lies shit"
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Vengence was better then that joint.
Arnold and that fucking plane in the city? come on now dude could hardly get it off the ground now he's flying round cities with his girl on the nose.
Jamie Lee curtis become an agent just because she's married to one?
the Best scene in Ture Lies was the Truth syrum part which don't stand a chance with Mclane's drive through the park.

R.I.P. Martin alexander (Marty Gra) Alston - my brother, my mentor , my friend-

  

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Menphyel7
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38. "it got one of my favorite lines ever"
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"they bought it.........we can begin" whenever I do an album that will be the intro.

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"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

  

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ThaTruth
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41. "y'all can hate all you want, Bad Boys II was the shit."
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"Stay out the dark, cause if I catch you when the sun is down..."
https://youtu.be/eaaTxVRG06c?t=89

  

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Rajeniro757
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42. "didn't have the chemistry of the 1st and overshot the mark"
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the whole Cuba race down a Hill of shacks that are randomly exploding.
The mine scene was hot but come on.
It had it's moments but it didn't top the first.

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Esco
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47. "i don't know about all that but i do know..."
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bruce willis = g.o.a.t.

  

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