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"Who else is looking forward to The Muppets (2015)"


  

          

i am more excited about The Muppets than anything else.

abc can bring back Fraggle Rock back, too.

  

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I've read some reviews that scare me.
Sep 21st 2015
1
...that's why i don't read reviews for art about which i'm excited.
Sep 22nd 2015
2
I normally don't either.
Sep 22nd 2015
3
A Moms group is protesting it.
Sep 22nd 2015
4
      basically the show has nothing for the kids.
Sep 22nd 2015
6
man that was painfully luke warm
Sep 22nd 2015
5
Yeah, I had the same impression
Sep 23rd 2015
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      Muppet Babies was my shit...missed this first ep last night
Sep 23rd 2015
10
      agreed.. needs a shot to hit it's stride... not hopeless by any stretch
Sep 24th 2015
15
will be watching, hoping its decent
Sep 22nd 2015
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I didn't want to like it. But I did laugh
Sep 23rd 2015
9
totally enjoyed that
Sep 24th 2015
11
A few funny jokes. There could be potential.
Sep 24th 2015
12
Kinda liked it
Sep 24th 2015
13
It was okay; I could see it getting better
Sep 24th 2015
14
God, 100% cosign.
Sep 24th 2015
16
      To quote a friend, they've turned him into a frog with a pig fetish
Sep 24th 2015
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      I'm even fine with him leaving Miss Piggy. That's not even my issue.
Sep 24th 2015
18
           I'm fine with him leaving her too, it's more the way it was handled as w...
Sep 24th 2015
19
                so true... it's like they killed the rainbow connection..
Sep 24th 2015
20
      I'm not quite as mad at Kermit just yet
Sep 24th 2015
21
my fav lscene was the Janice one
Sep 25th 2015
22
I'd rather watch this than that Segal movie
Sep 25th 2015
23

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1. "I've read some reviews that scare me."
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Basically that they've turned the Muppets into cynical jaded Hollywood archetypes. Cynicism has never really been the point of the Muppets.

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2. "...that's why i don't read reviews for art about which i'm excited."
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like when i want to see a movie i don't read reviews. i just go see it. same w/TV.

so i'm not reading any reviews of this. i'm just going to watch it. i don't want some geek reviewer to keep me from enjoying something.

fuck you.

  

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3. "I normally don't either."
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But the ads started to make me worried. Maybe I shouldn't have read anything.

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4. "A Moms group is protesting it. "
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As for me, I feel like the previews show a more snarky bunch of puppets. I might watch for the humor but this ain't my childhood muppet show so I gotta test it before I let my son watch. Why folk always gotta "adult" shyt?

Kermit and Piggy broke up and he has a younger pig now... and there was a lil grown humor in the trailer... I don't know.


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6. "basically the show has nothing for the kids."
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and the adult humor was craptastically bad last night imo...

  

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5. "man that was painfully luke warm"
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I had a couple laughs but really I was cringing through most of it... I'm an old school muppet purist.. that old show was the GOAT.. I might give this one a shot for a while but I'm not really seeing it happen if last night is a sign of things to come.

  

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8. "Yeah, I had the same impression"
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I actually don't remember the old show much, although I vaguely remember watching it (that and Muppet Babies).

The nonstop cameos and name dropping was just way over the top... I get wanting to make an impression with the first episode, but I hope it doesn't continue this way. The muppets have more than enough personality to carry the show, let the cameos be a special treat here and there.

I do want to continue watching though, let the show breathe a bit. There were some genuinely funny bits, and I was ROLLING at all of Kermit's facial expressions.

Hopefully it finds its stride Parks and Rec style, and really finds its voice once we get past the main Kermit & Piggy arc.

  

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10. "Muppet Babies was my shit...missed this first ep last night"
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doesn't sound like I missed much tho

  

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15. "agreed.. needs a shot to hit it's stride... not hopeless by any stretch"
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7. "will be watching, hoping its decent"
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I'm definitely not sure about the muppet voices though

#muppetloyalist

  

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9. "I didn't want to like it. But I did laugh"
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As mentioned, this is not the Muppets of old. A lot of the characters are playing similar roles as the OG show, but remixed for now. The reality TV angle does feel a little forced and overused, so there's one thing. And while the OG Muppets did have an adult slant to it, this one is in no way shape or form meant for the kids, which does worry me

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11. "totally enjoyed that"
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the media push was on point


i was worried it would be dated
but the media push totally quelled those fears
its a relevant muppets poking fun at current day life
while doing their normal insanity/hijinks

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12. "A few funny jokes. There could be potential."
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They need to lose the "Piggy is an irredeemable bitch" shtick. The "drama" between Kermit/Piggy/Denise doesn't interest me at all. And outside of the "bear" joke, Fozzie, my usual favorite, didn't make me laugh once, saddled with his plotline.

But the occasional bits were funny. Bunsen with the gloves. Zoot. Bobo always makes me laugh. The "Dancing With The Czars" routine.

I reckon I'll check out the next one.

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13. "Kinda liked it"
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Not sure if I'll stick with it, but there were a few laughs.
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14. "It was okay; I could see it getting better"
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I think the episode gets Kermit and Miss Piggy all wrong, particularly Kermit. Making him jaded and cynical just doesn't work. The Fozzie stuff was fine, as was the Electric Mayhem. Good to see Tom Bergeron have a good sense of humor about himself. And anything involving Beaker is always funny.

The tone still needs to be tweaked. That's the biggest issues.

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16. "God, 100% cosign."
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>I think the episode gets Kermit and Miss Piggy all wrong,
>particularly Kermit. Making him jaded and cynical just doesn't
>work.

How can you get Kermit wrong? Sigh.

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17. "To quote a friend, they've turned him into a frog with a pig fetish"
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>How can you get Kermit wrong? Sigh.

Kermit being with Miss Piggy despite him being an enthusiastic and overall good guy and her being a porcine tornado with, deep down, a good heart is compelling and kind of sweet. With this show, he's just a frog that's attracted to pigs.

I don't know, I think efforts try to "ground" this show in the real world is what is going to hold it back. And prevent it from having any real heart. I'm hoping the show writers can course correct as weeks go on; it always takes TV comedies a little bit to find the right voice.

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18. "I'm even fine with him leaving Miss Piggy. That's not even my issue."
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My issue is the generally cynical tone he carries.

If he leaves Piggy because their relationship wasn't working, and he's moved on, I'm fine with that, even if it's monumentally uninteresting to me. It's more the shrill Hollywood jaded producer guy shtick. "Send him some nice salami... send him some ordinary salami." It's so nitpicky, but I firmly believe Kermit would care enough to send Tom Bergeron nice salami and would feel genuinely bad that he'd been bumped. Give that line/attitude to someone else. Not Kermit.

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19. "I'm fine with him leaving her too, it's more the way it was handled as w..."
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And the rebound thing. "I've got a thing for pigs," might have been a throwaway line, but it just didn't feel true to the character at all.

>My issue is the generally cynical tone he carries.
>
>It's more the shrill
>Hollywood jaded producer guy shtick. "Send him some nice
>salami... send him some ordinary salami." It's so nitpicky,
>but I firmly believe Kermit would care enough to send Tom
>Bergeron nice salami and would feel genuinely bad that he'd
>been bumped. Give that line/attitude to someone else. Not
>Kermit.

100% co-sign on this. Kermit being bitter while doing the show and dealing with people is just all wrong. And, as I said above, it damages the show's heart.

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20. "so true... it's like they killed the rainbow connection.. "
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21. "I'm not quite as mad at Kermit just yet"
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I mean, the nice everyman Kermit was pretty much replaced by Walter in the current continuum. He wasn't quite as jaded as he's portrayed in the first ep, but you could kind of see how he could possibly take that path. Who knows, they may delve into that as the show progresses and he may find his kind optimistic heart again. Too early to say. I thought the salami line was funny though

Now, I'm not a fan of Denise or or how he and Piggy are handled. Right now Piggy is waaaaaaaay OTT (again, something that was pointed at in the current movies) and hopefully they get into that (and possibly tone her down a bit). Denise just feels wrong at the moment, and the 'frog who likes pigs' line cheapens Kermit more than his jadedness. I mean, I"ve got it 4:1 that Piggy and Kermit make it back together at some point, but it's going to be a weird watch in the meantime

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22. "my fav lscene was the Janice one"
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....it was SO awesomely done... I agree on points about Kermit, making him negative in ANY way isn't a good idea...the Fozzie stuff was weak, but the little bit of Gonzo was gold .....I didn't love the "insensitive Ms Piggy" stuff, like her not knowing Fozzie's name...

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23. "I'd rather watch this than that Segal movie"
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