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"Is "The Corner" Common's best flow ever?"


  

          

He's a top 5 MC for me, and I can't think of a better way he spit than on this song. Correct me if I am wrong.


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RE: Is "The Corner" Common's best flow ever?
Oct 23rd 2024
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Hm. Would have to think about it, but it's up there.
Oct 24th 2024
2
I don't put that one up there.
Oct 24th 2024
3
Damn great list.
Oct 25th 2024
9
Resurrection for me, but this is up there.
Oct 24th 2024
4
Yep.
Oct 25th 2024
10
RE: nah
Oct 24th 2024
5
RE: nah
Oct 24th 2024
6
      Yea, that seems super weird and disrespectful lol.
Oct 25th 2024
11
           RE: I don't think it's a case of it being bad
Oct 30th 2024
37
This song and this album have really become overrated
Oct 24th 2024
7
Album was always one of his “top 4”
Oct 24th 2024
8
      I think this is right.
Oct 25th 2024
12
      ehh I dont know man
Oct 25th 2024
15
      Yea I can't argue too hard one way or the other.
Oct 28th 2024
25
      yeah Auditorium dropped Be from 4th to 5th for me
Oct 26th 2024
19
           I’m still figuring it out where it will fall
Oct 26th 2024
20
                yeah I feel you on the grown man rap
Oct 28th 2024
24
                That's dope.
Oct 28th 2024
27
                With you on this 100%.
Oct 28th 2024
26
      IMO The Fix is Face’s best album from top to bottom.
Oct 28th 2024
30
           RE: it's definitely the easiest one to get into
Oct 30th 2024
38
           It’s a great album (as is Be, IMO)
Oct 30th 2024
39
I was disappointed hearing the Corner
Oct 25th 2024
13
Me too, to an extent.
Oct 25th 2024
14
Did we ever rate Common albums?
Oct 25th 2024
16
Surprisingly, no
Oct 25th 2024
17
no. gun to my head its probably
Oct 25th 2024
18
I agree. He's got so many classics.
Oct 28th 2024
28
For all the hype Be gets… it does not
Oct 26th 2024
21
I agree with that, and curious what are favorites on Be?
Oct 26th 2024
22
By that logic only 2 albums qualify
Oct 27th 2024
23
HUNGRY
Oct 28th 2024
29
Hungry's up there for sure, would prolly be my choice.
Oct 29th 2024
32
Finding Forever sucks
Oct 29th 2024
34
I think most responders are misunderstanding this post.
Oct 29th 2024
31
"Just in the Nick of Rhyme" is so good.
Oct 29th 2024
33
Resurrection EXTRA P Remix
Oct 30th 2024
35
Dying for this to get on streaming.
Oct 30th 2024
36

obsidianchrysalis
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1. "RE: Is "The Corner" Common's best flow ever?"
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I wouldn't argue with you for having him in your Top 5, but I've never considered that song the height of his abilities. But I can see it's one of his more significant pieces because it signaled he was back in full after how many saw Electric Circus as a misstep. It was hard in a way many thought they would never get from him again.

I can't recall his catalog like I imagine you can, but It's Your World is a better display of his skills to me.

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Brew
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2. "Hm. Would have to think about it, but it's up there."
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Thu Oct-24-24 09:27 AM by Brew

          

Like someone already said I think he was on a mission to prove he could still go toe to toe with any MC by returning to traditional boom bap. Mission accomplished.

Funnily enough, tho, I think once I give it some thought, I'll find that I think some of his best flows came from the album that this song was made to distance himself from, Electric Circus. lol.

But yea - he was blacking out on this track for sure.

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3. "I don't put that one up there."
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he's got so many though.

blue sky

black maybe

high expectations

1999 - street



I'm actually a huge fan of his songs where he rhymes slower.

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9. "Damn great list."
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>he's got so many though.
>
>blue sky
>
>black maybe
>
>high expectations
>
>1999 - street

I wouldn't have thought of Blue Sky cuz I'm mega meh about that song but now that you mention it, that's a good one. His flow is definitely on point. Which is all the more impressive because the beat is so off kilter.


>I'm actually a huge fan of his songs where he rhymes slower.

Likewise, for sure.

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4. "Resurrection for me, but this is up there."
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10. "Yep."
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5. "RE: nah"
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>He's a top 5 MC for me, and I can't think of a better way he
>spit than on this song. Correct me if I am wrong.
>
>
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>they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
>
>"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"



I don't really go back to this album all that much, even XXL took back the XXL rating they gave it BUT I do think it was the best song to go with as far as what to expect from the rest of it. He's definitely going for it on every verse of that song though

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6. "RE: nah"
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even XXL
>took back the XXL rating they gave it

Never knew this --- what was the story here?


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11. "Yea, that seems super weird and disrespectful lol."
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>even XXL
>>took back the XXL rating they gave it
>
>Never knew this --- what was the story here?

Like there's certainly albums that were way too hyped up at their time of release that actually weren't good. Be isn't one of them, at all. It may have been *slightly* overhyped (it's not his best album by a long shot), but it's really, really, really fucking good.

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37. "RE: I don't think it's a case of it being bad"
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>>even XXL
>>>took back the XXL rating they gave it
>>
>>Never knew this --- what was the story here?
>
>Like there's certainly albums that were way too hyped up at
>their time of release that actually weren't good. Be isn't one
>of them, at all. It may have been *slightly* overhyped (it's
>not his best album by a long shot), but it's really, really,
>really fucking good.


as much as it is not being some massive masterwork. Com is great on the verses but part of it feels like an apology for Electric Circus that wasn't necessary, and I'm not really a huge fan of that album. But I've never been a fan of how Kanye's beats sound sonically, so anything produced by him I'm almost instantly taken out of it because of that

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7. "This song and this album have really become overrated"
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I didn’t even know people thought Be was his best album until recently on the internet. It’s odd how it’s kind of said as if it’s common knowledge that Be is his best album.

I know it got the XXL but even then, I assumed that was more of a lifetime achievement and “we love everything Ye does” rating which was fine.

I never thought that album was better than Like Water For Chocolate and I never thought The Corner was on par with The 6th Sense.

The beat is classic “light in the ass” Ye as far as the sound quality is concerned.

And yes, Common does kill that track but it never struck me as his best moment.

Resurrection
Invocation
Hungry
High Expectations
Time Travelin’
Dooinit
The Sixth Sense
Respiration
1-9-9-9

Common has a ton of joints I think he’s flowing as good if not better on.

  

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8. "Album was always one of his “top 4”"
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Now, “top 5”.

And it might be #5 too.

And that’s not even a knock on the album. It’s really good and I love it, but Common put in WORK well before that one.

Random thoughts now, but I imagine “Be” is to Common fans as “The Fix” is to Scarface fans.

  

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>Now, “top 5”.
>
>And it might be #5 too.
>
>And that’s not even a knock on the album. It’s really
>good and I love it, but Common put in WORK well before that
>one.
>
>Random thoughts now, but I imagine “Be” is to Common fans
>as “The Fix” is to Scarface fans.

^^ that's a great analogy. Both are objectively great albums, but nowhere near either artists' best.

The holy trinity for Common was and always will be Resurrection, One Day, and LWFC. To your point Be was always 4th (tho it's so good that I wouldn't argue *that hard* if someone placed it in their top 3) and now, it might even be 5th. I can't really argue that.

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15. "ehh I dont know man"
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>The holy trinity for Common was and always will be
>Resurrection, One Day, and LWFC.

As a huge Com fan myself, not sure how well One Day holds up. It has brilliant moments/runs and a certain charm to the chaos of course.

But I haven't played a lot of those songs in over a decade because theres no reason to go back.

I'd go LWFC, Resurrection, BE...then One Day.

Auditorium is still new, but that's probably next and may end up 4th.


I think a certain audience overrates BE relatively...but I also think old head Common fans downplay the importance of that album.

Not invalidating your opinion (or anyones), just sharing mine.

As an album? Be is stronger than One Day to me, though its close.

Take off the pointless Testify and put Dilla's Be and/or Home and its a wrap.




  

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25. "Yea I can't argue too hard one way or the other."
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Mon Oct-28-24 10:05 AM by Brew

          

I think Be is better in terms of conciseness and front to back replay value.

But I think Comm's bars, concepts, and just overall temperament (for lack of a better term) on One Day all elevate it, for me. He was just so cool, confident, and (pun intended) hungry on that album. I loved the liner notes and the story it told. I loved the album cover w/his mama as a kid. I love how the liner notes include pics of all the guest artists as kids.

And, for all the issues people often bring up about the pacing and sequencing of that album, No ID laced that shit with some absolute banger classics.

Like you said, it's close. So you won't get much of an argument from me if you put Be above One Day. I just think lyrically, Comm was on another level on the Res, One Day, LWFC run. He was spitting on Be, too, for sure, but, as a minor gripe/example of why I think the Holy Trinity I mentioned it superior to Be, it's a short album and he repeated a bar on two consecutive songs lol.

Real People:
"They say the dope game is sour
Now they doin' homework that's when they follow you for hours"

They Say:
"They say 'Dope is sour, so it's homework and hood crimes'"

Not a huge deal but just one of those things that's always stood out to me. I still love both songs and love that album.

Anyway, to be very clear, I was just listing my top 4 Comm albums and how I personally rank them (as you mentioned). But you can list those top 4 (and now, with Auditorium, top 5 IMO) albums in any order and I'm there's really gonna be no significant argument from me. They're all near perfect, and great for their own reasons.

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19. "yeah Auditorium dropped Be from 4th to 5th for me"
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1. LWFC
2. One Day
3. Auditorium
4. Resurrection
5. Be

LWFC is my wife's fav too. I guess it has something to do with us running all these errands getting ready for our first child when it dropped. We'd have that CD on repeat every where we went till Train of Thought dropped later that year.

  

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20. "I’m still figuring it out where it will fall"
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Right now, it’s the Common album I’m playing every time. In a few years, we’ll have to see.

One thing for me now, while I love going back to albums like Resurrection, Illmatic, etc. at times - I also have to be in a certain mood. There’s nostalgia and also obvious appreciation for the high level rhyming and beats - but I’m not always in the mood to listen to 20 year olds. Lot of times these days I just need the grown man rapping. Like “Fortunate” - most of the time these days, that’s the type of song I’d want to hear more than any other.

  

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24. "yeah I feel you on the grown man rap"
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I ran into Maseo of all people here in Georgia the other day just out grocery shopping and was saying the same thing. Was telling him how big De La's influence has been in my life and how I just can't get with these new dudes. I've come to the conclusion that outside of maybe a handful of cats, I can't listen to anyone under 40.

  

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27. "That's dope."
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>I ran into Maseo of all people here in Georgia the other day
>just out grocery shopping and was saying the same thing. Was
>telling him how big De La's influence has been in my life and
>how I just can't get with these new dudes. I've come to the
>conclusion that outside of maybe a handful of cats, I can't
>listen to anyone under 40.

On a somewhat related note, I gained a new appreciation for 3 Feet High & DLSID after my daughter was born. Always loved those albums but at the same time I felt like they were "before my time" or of another era. They remain so, but the positive vibes and themes on both those albums were perfect. She dances her stupid little butt off when those beats start playing and I can rap along to my favorite group of all time. It's a perfect scenario.

Anyway same deal re: the "new dudes." Old man yelling at cloud etc. but the rhythms and vibes and even the content just doesn't feel, at all, the same.

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26. "With you on this 100%."
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>One thing for me now, while I love going back to albums like Resurrection, Illmatic, etc. at times - I also have to be in a certain mood. There’s nostalgia and also obvious appreciation for the high level rhyming and beats - but I’m not always in the mood to listen to 20 year olds. Lot of times these days I just need the grown man rapping. Like “Fortunate” - most of the time these days, that’s the type of song I’d want to hear more than any other.

I think this is partially why I love One Day It'll All Make Sense as much as I do. For all its faults (as beautiful a song as it is, Retrospect for Life has a problematic premise), I have a soft spot for the wisdom and grown man feel of the production and (most of) the lyrics.

But Auditorium takes that to a whole new level. I really haven't stopped listening to it since it came out.

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30. "IMO The Fix is Face’s best album from top to bottom."
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>Random thoughts now, but I imagine “Be” is to Common fans
>as “The Fix” is to Scarface fans.

I get why that’s not a popular opinion and I get that the album is more “East coast” sounding than his other classics but there just nothing that isn’t GREAT on The Fix.

All his other albums have moments I could do without.

I feel his songwriting from song to song is better.

I also feel featuring both Nas and Jay at the height of their beef and placing them on songs where they both individually would shine brightest was a huge flex.

I don’t know man, there’s just something special about The Fix for me.

  

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38. "RE: it's definitely the easiest one to get into"
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>
>>Random thoughts now, but I imagine “Be” is to Common
>fans
>>as “The Fix” is to Scarface fans.
>
>I get why that’s not a popular opinion and I get that the
>album is more “East coast” sounding than his other
>classics but there just nothing that isn’t GREAT on The
>Fix.
>
>All his other albums have moments I could do without.
>
>I feel his songwriting from song to song is better.
>
>I also feel featuring both Nas and Jay at the height of their
>beef and placing them on songs where they both individually
>would shine brightest was a huge flex.
>
>I don’t know man, there’s just something special about The
>Fix for me.


for somebody that's not familiar with him, it works everytime for me. also I think this is the album where his songwriting and lyricism is on the same level for the entirety of the album. I mean I'm taking I Seen A Man Die over Someday any day of the week, but the way he was weaving in and out of them beats was a thing of beauty. for me It Ain't Shit pt. II was the beginning

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39. "It’s a great album (as is Be, IMO)"
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Wed Oct-30-24 09:31 PM by DJR

  

          

>
>>Random thoughts now, but I imagine “Be” is to Common
>fans
>>as “The Fix” is to Scarface fans.
>
>I get why that’s not a popular opinion and I get that the
>album is more “East coast” sounding than his other
>classics but there just nothing that isn’t GREAT on The
>Fix.
>
>All his other albums have moments I could do without.
>
>I feel his songwriting from song to song is better.
>
>I also feel featuring both Nas and Jay at the height of their
>beef and placing them on songs where they both individually
>would shine brightest was a huge flex.
>
>I don’t know man, there’s just something special about The
>Fix for me.

But I think most Face fans would go with The Diary as his best, and most Common fans go with LWFC or Resurrection.

The Fix was a later career album that was really good, did really well, maybe more accessible to a wider audience (Kanye beats, and Nas and Jay features), I just feel like it holds a similar place in his career as Be does to Common’s.

  

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13. "I was disappointed hearing the Corner"
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Fri Oct-25-24 01:25 PM by javi222

          

When Be dropped, Electric Circus had grown on me…So all I heard was Common watering down his lyrics and trying to be mainstream

Though I aint mad at it… Be brought him a lot of success

  

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14. "Me too, to an extent."
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Fri Oct-25-24 01:53 PM by Brew

          

>RE: I was disappointed hearing the Corner
>When Be dropped, Electric Circus had grown on me…So all I
>heard was Common watering down his lyrics and trying to be
>mainstream
>
>Though I aint mad at it… Be brought him a lot of success

I loved EC right from the beginning, despite it's glaring shortcomings. So while I thought The Corner was dope, I was definitely a little disappointed and let down that he was "going backwards" (even tho it certainly didn't sound like anything he'd done before, it was just a return to "boomp bap" as it were) as opposed to continuing to push the envelope like that whole collective had been doing for 5 or 6+ years to that point. Part of that disappointment was probably due to the fact that I was 19 or 20 at the time, so in my own life I was exploring and discovering new things. So on some level I probably subconsciously wanted my favorite artists to continue doing the same because that's what I gravitated toward them for.

I loved Be anyway but always hated how he spent so much time dismissing EC. Glad he's walked that back a bit as time has gone on. That album was ahead of its time.

To your point about the success, I can understand why he went that route looking back. He was at a career crossroads, needed more than critical acclaim to survive in the industry. I think I was just hoping he was something that it turned out he wasn't. Which, to be clear, is perfectly fine, he's been an amazing artist and had a great career as he is.

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16. "Did we ever rate Common albums? "
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Did I miss out on that?

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17. "Surprisingly, no"
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Here are the artists we rated:

The Lesson Rates: Nas
Topic started by Oak27, Dec 16th 2022 (83 replies)

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The Lesson Rates: Wu-Tang (Wave 1)
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The Lesson Rates: Gang Starr
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The Lesson Rates: A Tribe Called Quest
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The Lesson Rates: OutKast
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The Lesson Rates: The Roots
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18. "no. gun to my head its probably"
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Respiration.


Honestly his guest spots might be up there as far as GOAT guest verse convos.

  

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28. "I agree. He's got so many classics."
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>Respiration.
>
>
>Honestly his guest spots might be up there as far as GOAT
>guest verse convos.

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javi222
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21. "For all the hype Be gets… it does not "
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have Common’s best moments or most popular songs…


I Used to Love HER
The Light
Resurrection
6th Sense

^^^ Nothing on Be is better than these songs

  

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22. "I agree with that, and curious what are favorites on Be?"
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>have Common’s best moments or most popular songs…
>
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>I Used to Love HER
>The Light
>Resurrection
>6th Sense
>
>^^^ Nothing on Be is better than these songs

For me, the opener and closer - Be(Intro) and It’s Your World (pt. 1 and 2) are my favorites, along with Faithful and Love Is…

Love Is…that beat is just beautiful.

  

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23. "By that logic only 2 albums qualify "
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You only listed songs from 2 albums.

The intro, it’s your world, love is, the corner,
and probably faithful are up there.

Shiiit Real People?


Look I get we’re all old heads and it’s fuck
Kanye all day but there’s some odd revisionist
shit/ cherry picking going on in this thread lol

  

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29. "HUNGRY"
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also, i'm surprised Finding Forever doesn't get more mention. It is a great album and some of the best work he's ever done.

  

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32. "Hungry's up there for sure, would prolly be my choice."
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>also, i'm surprised Finding Forever doesn't get more mention.
> It is a great album and some of the best work he's ever done.

I like Finding Forever. I just think it's too closely tethered to Be for me. I could also do without the "Hollywood Comm" stuff. Dreamer/Believer suffered from the same problem. I think TD/TB is a better album than Finding Forever but they both suffer from too many bars about his newfound fame. I don't need to hear Comm rapping about being boys with Johnny Depp and shit. Haha.

But FF def has some great moments, I agree. I'm curious which songs you think are among "the best work he's ever done" ? I don't think I ever thought any songs from that album matched his best work. But I'm open to the discussion. "Start the Show" stands out.

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34. "Finding Forever sucks"
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Driving Me Wild
I Want You
Break My Heart

Those songs are trash

  

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31. "I think most responders are misunderstanding this post."
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You might be right. I think his flow on on "I Am Music" is underrated for obvious reasons. "The People" was good too, likely owing to Kanye's influence again. Interestingly, the whole "Can I Borrow A Dollar" album had varying flows on it, as I think he focused more on his flow at that time. "Take It EZ", "Breaker 1/9", "Just In The Nick of Rhyme" etc found him being animated and catchy with his flows as was more standard for that period in rap. "Resurrection" is just some great run-on sentence flowing lol. Gotta put that up there.
I think most comments are naming his best lyrical performances, which is different from flow. Surely the ideal is when the two meet, but they're different.

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Days like this I miss Sha Mecca

  

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33. ""Just in the Nick of Rhyme" is so good."
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>You might be right. I think his flow on on "I Am Music" is
>underrated for obvious reasons. "The People" was good too,
>likely owing to Kanye's influence again. Interestingly, the
>whole "Can I Borrow A Dollar" album had varying flows on it,
>as I think he focused more on his flow at that time. "Take It
>EZ", "Breaker 1/9", "Just In The Nick of Rhyme" etc found him
>being animated and catchy with his flows as was more standard
>for that period in rap. "Resurrection" is just some great
>run-on sentence flowing lol. Gotta put that up there.
>I think most comments are naming his best lyrical
>performances, which is different from flow. Surely the ideal
>is when the two meet, but they're different.

Yea I think you're right that some people are just honing in on his best lyrical performances. I prolly fell into that as well, hard not to.

Re: Nick of Rhyme I made a video for TV class in high school where I was rapping along to this song lol. I still have it memorized, I think.

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35. "Resurrection EXTRA P Remix"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sO-aDfGUGo



>He's a top 5 MC for me, and I can't think of a better way he
>spit than on this song. Correct me if I am wrong.
>
>
>**********
>"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then
>they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
>
>"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

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36. "Dying for this to get on streaming."
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He did this version @ the Common/Pete Rock show in Boston. I know every word (my old AIM profile always had "On the rocks of reality, dreams get splashed" in it) and he noticed me and pointed me out (he was doing that to various people throughout the show and has always done that, I ain't special lol). I like how he's appreciative of folks knowing his old stuff. He also pointed me out when I was rapping along to I Used to Love HER.

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