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"Ever think stars/songs would be bigger if it weren't for so much cussing..."
Wed Oct-09-24 03:39 PM by Buddy_Gilapagos

  

          

This new Victoria Monet song algorithmically found me and I was bopping to it, and then it took a turn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYpCSBlGnDs

Still a bop but probably won't get a radio or cookout spins as much.

Then this Cordae + Anderson Paak dropped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK2kqW0_6Tg

Besides dropping at the end of Summer, this could have been a bigger summer banger if Cordae cut down the p*ssy poppin talk?

Am I old and crazy for thinking a lot of artist are throwing away money but not dropping clean versions of bangers?

I mean if Beyonce got time to make clean versions of songs why don't a lot of smaller artist bother?

Not really complaining about cursing in music in general but more griping about cursining in what could easily be Pop songs that would reach a wider audience.

Can you think of a song which could have been bigger if their was a "clean" version of it?


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RE: fuck yeah
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RE: fuck yeah
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^ came here to say this.
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      If Death Row saw fit to have clean versions....
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           Probably because of the decline of radio ? Just a guess.
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           Yeah that's probably the main answer, but it seems like Artist are missi...
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                Yea I think you're right.
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                     NBA 2k will censor it's playlists... and it's so awful
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                          Gross.
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           it's probably just not worth the cost or time.
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Edo G, Diamond D, Brand Nubian had radio lyric versions...
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Nah
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Generally agree, but I think that's the point of the Monet song.
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So much of cursing in R&B sounds forced
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RE: Ever think stars/songs would be bigger if it weren't for so much cus...
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Ever think stars/songs would be bigger if ...they spelled things correct...
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I'm not gonna blame the artists for that lol.
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RE: I'm not gonna blame the artists for that lol.
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      Sure but still, I'll blame the tech, not the artist.
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      RE: Sure but still, I'll blame the tech, not the artist.
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           Fair enough, I can't really argue your point.
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                RE: Fair enough, I can't really argue your point.
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                     Yea totally. Funnily enough I just bought their new album on vinyl today...
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                          RE: Yea totally. Funnily enough I just bought their new album on vinyl t...
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      6lack and Knxlwedge come to mind.
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beyond the voice issue
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“Nation of illiterate fucks”
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      lol
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I mean, our very own Common is the least SEO name out there.
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1. "RE: fuck yeah"
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it must longer ago than i thought because I can remember when artists would put out clean versions just for radio. Jay-Z for one would rewrite verses to make them clean

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2. "RE: fuck yeah"
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>it must longer ago than i thought because I can remember when
>artists would put out clean versions just for radio. Jay-Z for
>one would rewrite verses to make them clean
>

Death Row would also have clean versions with different lyrics, rather than just editing out the curses.

  

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3. "^ came here to say this."
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>Death Row would also have clean versions with different
>lyrics, rather than just editing out the curses.

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4. "If Death Row saw fit to have clean versions...."
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why does no one bother now?


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5. "Probably because of the decline of radio ? Just a guess."
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Radio was so much more relevant and important to an artist's trajectory in the 90s. Now there are a million other ways to promote yourself.

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6. "Yeah that's probably the main answer, but it seems like Artist are missi..."
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out that just because radio (or MTV & BET) aren't the factors they once were, folks still tend to not want to play heaving cursing music in family settings AND its hard for a really raunchy song to top charts.

It just feels like leaving money on the table.
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7. "Yea I think you're right."
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Artists do put "censored" songs/albums on streaming platforms but it's typically just the awkward cutting out of the bad words as opposed to recording new, clean versions of the songs/albums.

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26. "NBA 2k will censor it's playlists... and it's so awful"
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...not only will they censor harder than a radio song, it's juts a muted vocal, no cool preemo type censor edits, no wu tang kung fu efx, no cool reversed curses

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27. "Gross."
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You'd think NBA2k would know better and try harder. The Preemo type cuts or drops would work well IMO. Or at least better.

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9. "it's probably just not worth the cost or time."
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you're basically doing the recording process twice for maybe a marginal gain.

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25. "Edo G, Diamond D, Brand Nubian had radio lyric versions..."
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....of their singles as early at 91


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10. "Generally agree, but I think that's the point of the Monet song."
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The classic sound with the vulgar lyrics is what she's going for there. It's supposed to be jarring. With clean lyrics, there's nothing for her fans to like about it.

I think Cordae and Paak are just underground artists doing their thing.

Chloe and Halle Bailey are 2 who I think need clean versions of their songs. I was so disappointed in Halle's recent single "I muthafuckin love you babe". I'd been a bigger fan of her musically than Chloe, so I was looking forward to her album. Then she leads with that garbage. The cursing just sounds so unnecessary and forced, just like so much of Chloe's solo music. They're both so extremely talented and could make some truly classic music, but they insist on making questionable music choices in an attempt to appeal to a ratchet crowd.

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11. "So much of cursing in R&B sounds forced"
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>The classic sound with the vulgar lyrics is what she's going
>for there. It's supposed to be jarring. With clean lyrics,
>there's nothing for her fans to like about it.
>
>I think Cordae and Paak are just underground artists doing
>their thing.
>
>Chloe and Halle Bailey are 2 who I think need clean versions
>of their songs. I was so disappointed in Halle's recent single
>"I muthafuckin love you babe". I'd been a bigger fan of her
>musically than Chloe, so I was looking forward to her album.
>Then she leads with that garbage. The cursing just sounds so
>unnecessary and forced, just like so much of Chloe's solo
>music. They're both so extremely talented and could make some
>truly classic music, but they insist on making questionable
>music choices in an attempt to appeal to a ratchet crowd.


Which makes it cringeworthy and frankly pretty ridiculous IMO. It rarely serves a purpose.

  

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12. "RE: Ever think stars/songs would be bigger if it weren't for so much cus..."
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Fully agree.

Anderson.Paak could potentially be 2 or 3x as big as he is now if he consistently recorded clean versions of his albums. Yes, he has clean singles.. like the soundtrack stuff he's done, but those songs are really poppy and don't really showcase his true artistic vision.

  

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13. "Ever think stars/songs would be bigger if ...they spelled things correct..."
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This is not me complaining that artists get creative with the spelling of their name and songs, but I really think that they are shooting themselves in the foot by naming things in a "cool" or "creative" fashion. I can't tell you how many times I have tried to ask Google, Siri, Amazon, etc, to play a song by artists and the system doesn't pull them up because it can't translate my request without me asking and spelling it out. One example is Rapsody, the correct spelling is Rhapsody, but her name makes sense in the way that Rapsody spells it, but the smart devices can't understand my request without the extra step of spelling it.

How many songs were played because the spelling wasn't recognized by the system, and the listener just chose something else because this new 1st world problem was too difficult to work around.

This issue couldn't have be foreseen 20 years ago.

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14. "I'm not gonna blame the artists for that lol."
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If I asked a smart device to play a Ludacris song I doubt the same issue would arise. Hopefully they fix it w/Rapsody.

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15. "RE: I'm not gonna blame the artists for that lol."
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There are a lot of other artists that fall into that category.

Along the same conversation point, I hate having to request an artist multiple times because they have "Da" in their name. Having to slow down and carefully enunciate "DA" Bush Babees, and cross my fingers that it translates it as Babees, and not Babies.

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16. "Sure but still, I'll blame the tech, not the artist."
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You should name yourself what you wanna be named. Haha. But I do understand your point/frustration. Just saying I don't think that should be top of mind when you're deciding on a name. Just my 2c.

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17. "RE: Sure but still, I'll blame the tech, not the artist."
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Not trying to be argumentative (immediately contradicting myself)

I would argue the opposite going forward. If the point is to make music that people will listen to, make sure that they can find it. I think that all emerging artist need to take this into account. Make sure that you are future proofing yourself. Make sure that it is easy for someone to find and play your music.

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18. "Fair enough, I can't really argue your point."
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And I'm also not trying to be argumentative, just debating a mostly meaningless topic haha.

Anyway I guess my main point is just that I'm gonna focus my critiques on the tech and tech companies as opposed to the artists. The impetus should be on tech to ensure that they're getting it right. An artist should be free to be named (and styled) whatever (and however) they want.

But your point is well taken. I guess it all depends on the priorities of the individual artist.

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19. "RE: Fair enough, I can't really argue your point."
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"I guess it all depends on the priorities of the individual artist."

That is true as hell. It is like releasing a highly anticipated album, but only doing it on Luminary, and telling people that they need to get with their new program. Some decisions might just hurt sales and streams. Who in their right mind would do that?

To be fair to that statement. You have to applaud them for at least trying to execute and have their hands on the wheel of their own destiny. Not everyone has the balls and mental ambition to try to buck the system.

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20. "Yea totally. Funnily enough I just bought their new album on vinyl today..."
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>"I guess it all depends on the priorities of the individual
>artist."
>
>That is true as hell. It is like releasing a highly
>anticipated album, but only doing it on Luminary, and telling
>people that they need to get with their new program. Some
>decisions might just hurt sales and streams. Who in their
>right mind would do that?
>
>To be fair to that statement. You have to applaud them for at
>least trying to execute and have their hands on the wheel of
>their own destiny. Not everyone has the balls and mental
>ambition to try to buck the system.

And I did it largely cuz of your last point; I, being anti-establishment myself generally speaking, have a grudging respect for an artist bucking that system entirely to have full control and ensure they own *everything* that they put out. And I say "grudging" because I'd obviously love to have the convenience of just being able to listen to that album on a streaming platform like I do most other artists' work (though, to be clear, I do simultaneously buy a lot of vinyl and merch to support many, if not most, of the artists I most often seek out, so I don't feel super guilty that I'm supporting streaming which, as we know, takes full advantage of artists, especially those without existing resources).

Anyway, I agree with both your points. Both can be, and I think are, true (those being "who in their right mind would do that?" and "you have to applaid them ..").

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21. "RE: Yea totally. Funnily enough I just bought their new album on vinyl t..."
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>(though, to be clear, I do simultaneously buy a lot of vinyl
>and merch to support many, if not most, of the artists I most
>often seek out, so I don't feel super guilty that I'm
>supporting streaming which, as we know, takes full advantage
>of artists, especially those without existing resources).
>

For similar reasoning, if I am at a show with an artist that have reached that place in my love for music, I will hand them a $100 bill and thank them, because that is a fraction of what they have added to my life. Especially when some of there music was unavailable for me to get my hands on and I downloaded it off the net back in the day.

Tidal and Apple Music are less rapey (they pay more per stream) of the artist than Spotify and YouTube Music. Plus much better quality.

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22. "6lack and Knxlwedge come to mind."
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I haven't tried them with voice-activated tech, but I imagine there could be problems.

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23. "beyond the voice issue"
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I absolutely *cannot* with the dropping of vowels (BLK ODYSSY), in both artist names and song titles.

It makes no sense to me and feels like the sort of thing you do intentionally when you're a teen, as an affectation, and then drop the moment you realize how corny it is. Like using Prince syntax (symbols, abbreviations, an eye for "I") past a certain age, lol.

Except we apparently have an entire generation that has not yet realized how ridiculous it is.

But honestly, half of the names of rappers today, regardless of spelling, are absurd. They have no humor or intrigue or style, they're just straight ass, lol. Yeah, I'm sounding old but I'mma lean into it here with no shame.

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24. "“Nation of illiterate fucks”"
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>I absolutely *cannot* with the dropping of vowels (BLK
>ODYSSY), in both artist names and song titles.
>
>It makes no sense to me and feels like the sort of thing you
>do intentionally when you're a teen, as an affectation, and
>then drop the moment you realize how corny it is. Like using
>Prince syntax (symbols, abbreviations, an eye for "I") past a
>certain age, lol.
>
>Except we apparently have an entire generation that has not
>yet realized how ridiculous it is.
>
>But honestly, half of the names of rappers today, regardless
>of spelling, are absurd. They have no humor or intrigue or
>style, they're just straight ass, lol. Yeah, I'm sounding old
>but I'mma lean into it here with no shame.
>
>-thebigfunk
>
>~ i could still snort you under the table ~

https://youtu.be/sjflNKrIleE?si=aI72JMaZ2HKJPCmr

  

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28. "lol"
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I should probably clarify: I'm actually a staunch relativist when it comes to "proper" language... language changes, our use of it changes.

I get that some of this trend comes from text messaging/social media language and shortcuts, and I really don't mind it there.

It just looks dumb in this context, where it's an aesthetic choice.


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29. "I mean, our very own Common is the least SEO name out there. "
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At least it was for a while.

But yeah, there are tons of rappers and song titles that I can't even pronounce which has to on some level impact them. I am thinking 6Lack which I don't know the right way to pronounce.


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30. "WE GON MAKE IT"
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Dump the violent talk, rewrite the song with more traditionally motivational cliches and you have a marketing gold mine.

  

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