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"Damon Dash Says He’s “Taking Back” Roc-A-Fella - vibe.com"


  

          

The GAUDS show

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Damon Dash Says He’s “Taking Back” Roc-A-Fella: “I’m Still The CEO”
"Roc-A-Fella never dies. It's not dead. I just f**kin' took a vacation.


BY PREEZY BROWN


DECEMBER 27, 2023 12:37PM


Damon Dash says that he plans to “take back” Roc-A-Fella and revamp the brand under his own leadership. During a recent appearance on The GAUDS Show, the 52-year-old declared that he’s still the CEO of Roc-A-Fella Inc., an entity he claims is separate from Roc-A-Fella LLC.

“I’m taking back Roc-A-Fella; I don’t need no paperwork,” the Harlem native said. “Roc-A-Fella never dies. It’s not dead; I just f**kin’ took a vacation. I’m the CEO of Roc-A-Fella Inc. and JAY-Z knows it, and so does Biggs.” He continued, adding “Not Roc-A-Fella LLC — we sold that; Roc-A-Fella Inc. — I’m still the CEO.”


Dash, JAY-Z, and Kareem “Biggs” Burke cofounded Roc-A-Fella Records in the mid-90s. In 1997, the trio sold a 50 percent stake in the label to Def Jam Recordings for a reported $1.5 million. Amid an acrimonious split between the former partners, Dash, JAY-Z, and Burke sold their remaining 50% stake in Roc-A-Fella to Def Jam in 2004.


JAY-Z would assume control of Roc-A-Fella Records after becoming President of Def Jam later that same year, with artists like Kanye West, Jadakiss, Freeway, Memphis Bleek, Young Gunz, and more releasing albums on the label.

Hov then launched Roc Nation in 2008, with Dash relaunching Roc-A-Fella in 2010 after partnering with New Orleans rapper Curren$y. However, JAY-Z would drop Magna Carter Holy Grail, the last studio album to be released through Roc-A-Fella, a few years later in 2013.

Dash has also credited himself with giving JAY-Z his foundation in the music industry and as a businessman. “I learned to listen to nobody,” he said, referencing his persistence in pushing JAY-Z despite an initial lack of interest from major record labels.

“If I listened to them, there would be no JAY-Z. He wasn’t gon’ do it. There would be no rapping JAY-Z if it wasn’t for me 100,000 percent. He wasn’t gonna do what I did to make sure he got heard. He was hustling.”

He continued, “He wasn’t gonna put a record out by himself and create a record company,” Dame said. “He could rap but he didn’t know business. I taught him business. How to put a record out yourself. How to leverage your celebrity and put it on a product yourself.”

Watch The GAUDS Show below.


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I'd think he could create anything out of nothing.
Dec 29th 2023
1
Oh, that ship has sailed.
Feb 26th 2024
25
Girl, let him go already
Dec 29th 2023
2
Hopefully Dame matured, but I don't see why anybody would
Dec 31st 2023
4
      Artists/Producers HUNGRY for a "shot" will/would get with....
Dec 31st 2023
5
           folks looking to get into the biz will not be looking at Dame.
Jan 02nd 2024
8
                but would they turn him down if he offered a deal/intro into the industr...
Jan 02nd 2024
9
                     sure. anything is possible.
Jan 03rd 2024
10
                          the only credit ill give him is that hes always pushed independence
Jan 05th 2024
11
                               true. that's always been his angle, which is good.
Jan 05th 2024
13
grow up Dame.
Dec 30th 2023
3
RE: grow up Dame.
Dec 31st 2023
6
RE: you better bring Ski back in or it ain't gonna work
Jan 01st 2024
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RE: you better bring Ski back in or it ain't gonna work
Jan 24th 2024
14
      RE: you got damn right Lou
Feb 24th 2024
21
“I learned to listen to nobody,”
Jan 05th 2024
12
I hate Dame.
Jan 24th 2024
15
LOL. He is really famous for being an asshole.
Jan 24th 2024
16
AHAHAHHA
Jan 24th 2024
17
Ehhh. You can dislike him. But that ain't true.
Jan 31st 2024
18
Dame Dash Ordered To Sell Roc-A-Fella Shares - vibe
Feb 24th 2024
19
would be cool if Jay came to help him right now.
Feb 24th 2024
20
      Why reward bad behavior?
Feb 25th 2024
22
           that's one way to view it.
Feb 25th 2024
23
                Jay-Z offered him 1.5 million for his share a couple years back
Feb 25th 2024
24
                What I am saying is you can bail out your homeys hundreds of time
Feb 26th 2024
26
                     The overall feeling obviously (by a LOT of people having a 'generally
Feb 26th 2024
27

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1. "I'd think he could create anything out of nothing."
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I get Roc has the brand recognition, but "the ultimate hustler" he portrays himself to be, I'd think he could find the talent and start something new.

Shit, get Kanye back under control and build something with him.

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25. "Oh, that ship has sailed."
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Kanye is a monster far too large to be controlled by anyone, especially the likes of Dame.

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2. "Girl, let him go already"
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I'd be much more interested in him reviving DD172.

Dude acts like a jilted lover while dissing his exes, when I bet they'd be happy as hell to see Dame thrive (and by thriving, also not having time to keep talking about The Old Days).

Go do something new. all your new shit fails? Oh, maybe business has changed, and the "dame dash" steez no longer works.

Sad to see.

  

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4. "Hopefully Dame matured, but I don't see why anybody would"
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want to do/stay in business with the Dude just based on how he comes off in interviews talking about people who work for him.

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5. "Artists/Producers HUNGRY for a "shot" will/would get with...."
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...ANYONE with a NAME...


...but.....


Are there any Millenials or Gen-Z artists or producers who don't think TikTok and IG are "enough" to get them "noticed" by the public...so they would REALLY "go along" with whatever paces Dame would put these Millenial/Gen-Z producer/artists?


Seems like Neptunes, Missy & Tim, and Sa-Ra creative Partners were the last type of artists/producers who wanted to make it big in the Old-fashioned sense.


There's been hot producers getting names in the past years but I don't know if that is enough to get a new label going nowadays.

  

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8. "folks looking to get into the biz will not be looking at Dame."
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his name/rep isn't good. he's not popular enough. old heads don't want anything to do with him. no way a hungry (read: young) artist seeks Dame out to get ahead.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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9. "but would they turn him down if he offered a deal/intro into the industr..."
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devils advocate... they might not seek him but what if they collide with him head on unexpectedly

  

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10. "sure. anything is possible. "
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the folks that are most familiar with Dame are old heads. so it would be hard for him to get a budding star under his wing AND be able to successfully grow the audience for said artist.

it would also be difficult for him to speak to any recent success to reel someone in. yeah, he did the whole thing with Jay and Biggs, but that's been forever ago.

whatever credibility he had, has been trashed by outbursts and weird interviews.

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11. "the only credit ill give him is that hes always pushed independence "
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and thats the direction artists seem to be gravitating towards in todays climate...but todays artists dont really need him for that lol.

  

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13. "true. that's always been his angle, which is good."
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and you're right. these youngins get it now lol

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3. "grow up Dame."
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shit's over. make another one.

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6. "RE: grow up Dame."
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Too true…don’t go away mad Dame, just go away…

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7. "RE: you better bring Ski back in or it ain't gonna work"
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>The GAUDS show
>
>https://youtu.be/A9YighvwbME
>
>
>
>https://www.vibe.com/news/entertainment/damon-dash-roc-a-fella-ceo-1234836504/
>
>
>HOME
>NEWS
>ENTERTAINMENT
>
>
>Damon Dash Says He’s “Taking Back” Roc-A-Fella: “I’m
>Still The CEO”
>"Roc-A-Fella never dies. It's not dead. I just f**kin' took a
>vacation.
>
>
>BY PREEZY BROWN
>
>
>DECEMBER 27, 2023 12:37PM
>
>
>Damon Dash says that he plans to “take back” Roc-A-Fella
>and revamp the brand under his own leadership. During a recent
>appearance on The GAUDS Show, the 52-year-old declared that
>he’s still the CEO of Roc-A-Fella Inc., an entity he claims
>is separate from Roc-A-Fella LLC.
>
>“I’m taking back Roc-A-Fella; I don’t need no
>paperwork,” the Harlem native said. “Roc-A-Fella never
>dies. It’s not dead; I just f**kin’ took a vacation. I’m
>the CEO of Roc-A-Fella Inc. and JAY-Z knows it, and so does
>Biggs.” He continued, adding “Not Roc-A-Fella LLC — we
>sold that; Roc-A-Fella Inc. — I’m still the CEO.”
>
>
>Dash, JAY-Z, and Kareem “Biggs” Burke cofounded
>Roc-A-Fella Records in the mid-90s. In 1997, the trio sold a
>50 percent stake in the label to Def Jam Recordings for a
>reported $1.5 million. Amid an acrimonious split between the
>former partners, Dash, JAY-Z, and Burke sold their remaining
>50% stake in Roc-A-Fella to Def Jam in 2004.
>
>
>JAY-Z would assume control of Roc-A-Fella Records after
>becoming President of Def Jam later that same year, with
>artists like Kanye West, Jadakiss, Freeway, Memphis Bleek,
>Young Gunz, and more releasing albums on the label.
>
>Hov then launched Roc Nation in 2008, with Dash relaunching
>Roc-A-Fella in 2010 after partnering with New Orleans rapper
>Curren$y. However, JAY-Z would drop Magna Carter Holy Grail,
>the last studio album to be released through Roc-A-Fella, a
>few years later in 2013.
>
>Dash has also credited himself with giving JAY-Z his
>foundation in the music industry and as a businessman. “I
>learned to listen to nobody,” he said, referencing his
>persistence in pushing JAY-Z despite an initial lack of
>interest from major record labels.
>
>“If I listened to them, there would be no JAY-Z. He wasn’t
>gon’ do it. There would be no rapping JAY-Z if it wasn’t
>for me 100,000 percent. He wasn’t gonna do what I did to
>make sure he got heard. He was hustling.”
>
>He continued, “He wasn’t gonna put a record out by himself
>and create a record company,” Dame said. “He could rap but
>he didn’t know business. I taught him business. How to put a
>record out yourself. How to leverage your celebrity and put it
>on a product yourself.”
>
>Watch The GAUDS Show below.
>
>
>https://youtu.be/A9YighvwbME
>

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14. "RE: you better bring Ski back in or it ain't gonna work"
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got damn garhart popwell is still doin his thing on these boards

looool

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21. "RE: you got damn right Lou"
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>got damn garhart popwell is still doin his thing on these
>boards
>
>looool
>
>bless always
>
>- lou

what you been up to man? still putting out music?

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12. "“I learned to listen to nobody,” "
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Weird thing to be proud of.

Like yeah it helps to have confidence in the face of rejection, and that will help you get so far, but at some point...I think it's worth listening to people.

And as far as Roc-A-Fella Inc. versus Roc-A-Fella LLC.

Roca-Fella Records is owned by UMG.

https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=75207342&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch



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15. "I hate Dame. "
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How come only women seem to get the label "famous for no reason" or "famous for being famous"?

Paris Hilton has 1000x more talent than Dame...

Kim Kardashian has successful businesses that have actually existed during this century...

Dame did...what again? Put up 10k for reasonable doubt or some shit?

He is proof of how useful it is to have a cool name. If Dame was named James Griffin, he wouldn't have been on TV since 2001.

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16. "LOL. He is really famous for being an asshole."
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Like that was his whole brand, without the talent of a Kanye which means he could be cut off.

The ballsy part is doubling down in the face of all the Ls and trying to make folks doing it sound like they loss.


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17. "AHAHAHHA"
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Come on, I'm not going to say he has NO skills whatsoever

I remember hearing he was the one who was championing Kanye West as a rapper and getting Cam and Dipset on the label, so at the very least he has a good eye for recognizing talent

But his interpersonal skills are fucking terrible just based on how he's presented himself.

I can see why people don't want to hang around him but for so long.

Honestly I think he'd be better off stepping away from entertainment or at least being the silent partner/playing the background in whatever business he tries to do next.


Also he had a dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXjVpWKyG7k

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18. "Ehhh. You can dislike him. But that ain't true. "
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By every account, he was a central architect. Jay-Z never
denied that. And his eye for talent wasn't just "okay." It
was stellar. (Jay, Dipset, Ye, Currensy; gotta remember, Jay
was an old Big Daddy Kane opening act cast-off, and Cam'Ron
had largely failed in his first act).

He was never really the same after Aliyah died. Something broke,
and dude was unhinged since.

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19. "Dame Dash Ordered To Sell Roc-A-Fella Shares - vibe"
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https://www.vibe.com/news/entertainment/dame-dash-ordered-sell-roc-a-fella-shares-pay-settlement-1234854181/

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Dame Dash Ordered To Sell Roc-A-Fella Shares To Pay $823K Judgement

Despite their personal issues, even JAY-Z attempted to stop the motion.


BY JESSICA BENNETT

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FEBRUARY 22, 2024 12:56PM


Dame Dash‘s hopes of “taking back” Roc-A-Fella Records may be dashed themselves, as the label’s co-founder has been ordered by a judge to sell his remaining shares to clear a six-figure debt incurred two years ago.

Radar Online reports that the Harlem hustler was ordered by U.S. Magistrate Judge Robert W. Lehrburger to sell his one-third ownership of Roc-A-Fella to satisfy a judgement after Dash allegedly refused to pay a $823K judgement to movie producer Josh Webber. Webber sued the business man for defamation and copyright infringement after a dispute over the 2016 film Dear Frank, winning the case in 2022.


Despite years of tension between them, JAY-Z and fellow Roc-A-Fella boss Kareem “Biggs” Burke objected to the auction of Dame’s shares, claiming the company bylaws mandate that the board of directors first approve the sell-off. Judge Lehrburger, however, determined that his share qualifies as a personal asset that can be seized in order to pay his debts.


“The question at the core of the instant dispute is whether the RAF By-Laws’ prohibition on transfer and sale of Dash’s one-third ownership interest in shares of RAF without the consent of RAF’s board of directors legally prevents sale of Dash’s interest in RAF to satisfy the Judgment,” Leherburger wrote in his 15-page decision. “The answer indisputably is no.”

“Without jurisdiction to enforce a judgment entered by a federal court, the judicial power would be incomplete and entirely inadequate to the purposes for which it was conferred by the Constitution.”

Following the original verdict, Dash took to social media to react.


“You have to lose some battles to win a war… stay tuned #fatliars #youllneverbeme. Don’t ever say you Directed MY movie,” he wrote in an Instagram post. Webber then posted his own response, writing succinctly, “Case closed.”

  

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20. "would be cool if Jay came to help him right now."
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I don't think it'll happen, but would a nice olive branch. Dame probably wouldn't even take it though.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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22. "Why reward bad behavior?"
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23. "that's one way to view it."
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It's ok to bail someone out, even when their decision have gotten them into a bad spot. not more than once or twice. if they don't improve from there, cut it off.

it's not like Jay has a habit (that I'm aware of) of rewarding bad behavior.

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24. "Jay-Z offered him 1.5 million for his share a couple years back"
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and Dame went on interviews saying he was offended by the lowball offer.

  

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26. "What I am saying is you can bail out your homeys hundreds of time"
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if that's your homey who treated you well. But why bail out someone even one time if they act like an ahole to you publicly without them trying to make amends?


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27. "The overall feeling obviously (by a LOT of people having a 'generally"
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Mon Feb-26-24 12:34 PM by c71

  

          

...okay' view of Dame) is:

Dame is just a bragging street dude who got in the industry (and drinked and smoked and partied and got 'twisted' ego-wise TOO MUCH)

So.....

ANYTHING Dame did or said wrong to Jay has to be overlooked in light of all that predictable stuff (can't say street dudes in the industry don't ALL mess up like that)

"Give him a break, any street dude who makes it big is gonna mess up like that"

  

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