"Why was _____ on that song? Let’s talk pointless features"
Why did Ja Rule do the hook of Grand Finale(Method Man, Nas, DMX)?
He didn’t do a verse - just the hook. But DMX was on the song - why didn’t he do the hook? They brought in the poor man’s X to do something X could’ve done himself, and X was already on the song!
8. "I heard ... I think it was on seandammit's podcast ..." In response to Reply # 1
they were saying that a lot of times, artists will call in a favor for a skit or something, but not credit the artist. It's a way to avoid paying for a "feature". This sounds like maybe one of those situations, except it sounds like he was credited ? Or at least it was obvious it was him. Haha
6. "Judging by the involved parties..." In response to Reply # 0
>He didn’t do a verse - just the hook. But DMX was on the >song - why didn’t he do the hook? They brought in the poor >man’s X to do something X could’ve done himself, and X was >already on the song! > >
I'd guess it was a Ja song to begin with and Irv took him off for X's sake or just to be an overall shitty opportunist, like the podcast era has shown him to be.
15. "Inspectah Deck on Pac's "Got My Mind Made Up"" In response to Reply # 0 Mon Sep-25-23 11:39 AM by Gemini_Two_One
I know the history and I know his verse was cut. I never understood why they left Deck's opening on the album version in the first place.
------------------------------------------------------- Keep the crack raps up that shit is double plus what-ever-the-fuck. Everybody's afraid to say that it just sucks to watch talented motherfuckers pretending they sell drugs - EL-P
30. "You posted a video of Kurupt saying exactly what I said LOL" In response to Reply # 29
There’s another one of him telling the same story where he says they tell Pac he’s crazy cuz Deck is killing that verse and Pac responds and says something like “ain’t no one trying to hear all that”
Either way, exactly what I said, Daz kept Deck’s opening to let them know he was “in the house” and that’s because they knew he killed that joint.
38. "They first announced Can’t C Me was going to be for the Helter Skelter..." In response to Reply # 36
…(Cube and Dre) project that of course never materialized. Then it appeared in the O.G. Press packets for Dogg Food on the tracklist; if I recall, it was going to be the first song on side 2, back they still cared about splitting albums into sides.
41. "I remember seeing it on MTV News Report in like 1994/95" In response to Reply # 39
I think it was published in The Source during that era as well. But I remember watching the report on MTV that Cube and Dre were doing an album, and the first single was going to feature George Clinton.
21. "Brings to mind Guru on Dilated People’s - Worst Comes To Worst" In response to Reply # 20
Though even though he didn’t do much on the song, it probably wasn’t pointless for Dilated early in their career to have a bigger veteran artist appear on their single?
23. "On that note, B-1 "featuring" Large Professor, "Verbal Affairs"" In response to Reply # 21
Extra P's name was featured prominently, in a large font on that Rawkus 12". He talked shit for **maybe** 4 seconds at the end of the song, and that was it.
33. "Ha! That's probably what happened" In response to Reply # 20
Meth was the ish at the time, so a quick feature was better than nothing. But I always thought that was the most random placement.
As an aside, that Goodfellaz album still bangs
<-- Dave Thomas knows what's up... __________________________
Jay: Look here homie, any nigga can get a hit record. This here is about respect. Game: Like Gladys Knight. Jay: Aretha Franklin. Game: Word, I like her too. Jay: Nigga...
45. "RE: Cee-Lo on Wailin" In response to Reply # 43
>Obviously his hook is needed but to think that’s his only >feature on ATLiens when they had In Due Time in the cut is >still amazing to me. > >That song would’ve elevated that album even more. > >One could argue the sound is too happy for the vibe of the >album but I think it’s the perfect closer after Growing >Old.
I'm with you. I remember wondering where the Lo verse was on there too. But really, that album blew me away so much when it came out that I couldn't do much other than listen to it repeatedly.
Years later, I added In Due Time and Roaches and Rats to 'my version' of ATLiens. They should've never given me a burner 25 years ago! Once I got that 48x, it was a wrap! Haha.
48. "RE: A better question is, why is 1’2 Many… placed between Pt 2 and 3..." In response to Reply # 47
The Canibus song should have been left off the project. It seems like an A&R's request to get the hottest emcee of the season on the album. That song is not a good one, when slapped on the near end of the album. Detracted from the album.
52. "Yea I hear you. I think most skits/interludes are skippable at this poin..." In response to Reply # 51
... but, as you're obviously well aware, the 90s were a different time, and they were seen as part of the listening experience of an album/project. Nowadays you don't really see them, and with good reason.
But even as far as 90s skits or interludes go, this one seemingly fits the tone and feel of the album better than most. It's the same type of thing as "Ego Trip by Nikki Giovanni" from Blackalicious' Nia. I think they both strike the right tone on their respective albums.
But I'm not gonna argue too hard against you saying you'd rather just hear the music. I can't disagree with that in theory.
57. "Lil Jon on Lovers n Friends. Straight up ruins an otherwise great song" In response to Reply # 0
His part is annoying AF. Rest of the song is pretty damn good. Nice mid tempo jam by Usher and Luda has a solid appearance. But Lil Jon’s raspy, shouting on a slow jam is really pointless.
58. "Shit was on Jon’s album wasnt it? Lol" In response to Reply # 57
I actually liked that one as a song better than “Yeah”.
And I agree , they could’ve kept that one for Usher’s album and cut out Jon’s part and it would’ve been a better song and a solid R&B song with a rap verse. And then in a trade they could’ve gave “Yeah” to Jon - since that sound on that song was 100% his anyway. That would’ve made more sense musically.
60. "I like the Jon/Ursh/Luda trilogy." In response to Reply # 57
When I was working for Jon, we recorded a demo for Usher but that was when he was on lock by TVT and Usher’s wife was driving his close friends and collaborators away.
61. "Great contributions above. I had no idea this song is almost 20 years o..." In response to Reply # 57
Weird. I was thinking it came out in the late 2000s, but it fits for the time. I have no recollection of this song being very mainstream and in the clubs. That was my senior year of college and I definitely was not feeling Lil Jon - but did like a ton of southern rap.
I still love the song, but always hit skip when Jon’s verse comes on. And yes, this was Lil Jon’s song (well, he used the sample first), lol.
62. "Why was Westside Gunn on Joyce Wrice's album" In response to Reply # 0
Who the fuck greenlit that shit? How did they hear that verse and still think... "yeah we should put that on this album." One of the most baffling decisions in recent memory.
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