normal35762 Member since Oct 20th 2004 13246 posts
Tue Jan-24-23 08:34 AM
"Hip Hop What If Scenario : Too $hort never moved to Atlanta. What would..." Tue Jan-24-23 09:04 AM by normal35762
I heard Bomani Jones mention it a while back on his side show. Thought it was an interesting question. Would have liked to have heard some discussion on that. What you think woulda happened? How would the hip hop game be different if $hort stayed in The Bay his whole career. How would things be different?
1. "It never happens if EPMD doesn't break up." In response to Reply # 0
Eric Sermon found out about how Parrish was handling their financials. Parrish Smith's home gets shot up. Then Eric flees to Atlanta. He ends up making a nice living producing for different artists and bringing major credibility to the Atlanta hip-hop scene. This is what influenced his friend Too Short to make the move. I believe Too Short was getting into issues locally as well, but I don't remember his timeline as well as Eric Sermon's.
2. "Bringing major credibility to the Atlanta hip-hop scene?" In response to Reply # 1
Which Atlanta artists/groups did he produce for or put on? He set up shop in Atlanta and pretty much did what he been doing. He did some stuff for a few groups signed to Dallas Austin's Rowdy Records but none of that made major noise.
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10. "He didn't change the sonics like ONP. He showed that there was fertile " In response to Reply # 2
>Which Atlanta artists/groups did he produce for or put on? He >set up shop in Atlanta and pretty much did what he been doing. >He did some stuff for a few groups signed to Dallas Austin's >Rowdy Records but none of that made major noise.
ground out there for hip-hop. No shortage of transplants in Atlanta now but be honest was it anything like this back then? When you get people like Short and Sermon out there it does make the local scene stronger overall. More localized hip-hop business, now everyone doesn't have to go to NYC and LA to put on.
Illegal didn't make major noise? What was moving hip-hop wise in Atlanta that was hotter than them? Parental Advisory had no traction on a national level, that leaves who? Outkast doesn't drop "Players Ball" until several months after Illegal's album dropped. Maybe Hiero should have relocated to Atlanta too should have come to Atlanta too...
11. "RE: He didn't change the sonics like ONP. He showed that there was fert..." In response to Reply # 10
>Illegal didn't make major noise? What was moving hip-hop wise >in Atlanta that was hotter than them? Parental Advisory had no >traction on a national level, that leaves who? Outkast >doesn't drop "Players Ball" until several months after >Illegal's album dropped. Maybe Hiero should have relocated to >Atlanta too should have come to Atlanta too...
Why are we skipping Kris Kross and Arrested Development? They had success in 92. Not hip hop enough?
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3. ""ay dawg, how do I get to Beckwith Hall?"" In response to Reply # 0
My first encounter with Short in 1996 at Clark Atlanta. I swear I met more artists going in and out of girls' dorms back then. Trick Daddy was messing with a girl who lived in the room next to my then girlfriend, now wife. We'd sometimes bump into each other on a nightly basis and would crack up. Good times lol
9. "He sent a letter from jail asking to join Goodie Mob." In response to Reply # 8
Before anyone could act, Suge swooped in. Would’ve been weird but the beef either dies out or gets squashed fairly. Puff & Rico Wade always had a quiet beef but I don’t know if Pac knew that and would’ve been beefing with Bad Boy anyway.
13. "Whoa...this is wild. I never knew about this." In response to Reply # 9
I would have loved to hear what this combo would have sounded like. "Sould Food" & "Makaveli" are 2 of my favorite albums of all time. And I think they could have married the styles effectively.
15. "Would've never got 'Blow the Whistle'" In response to Reply # 0
Didn't he link up with Lil' Jon for that one? But in all honesty I thought he mainly left Oakland because there were some street wars happening that he didn't want to get caught up in. If he stayed, he might've lost his life. I'm glad he bounced. Plus moving down South helped widen his sound and brand.
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