"Name an Artist who sabotaged their own career?" Thu Jan-12-23 10:25 AM by Buddy_Gilapagos
This isn't about artist who couldn't adapt to changing music trends (not about Prince). And I really don't want it be about artist whose personal life choices (i.e., drugs) cut their lives short or got them locked up. We'd be here all day.
And I don't think this is a Kanye post, music-wise we don't really know if he is done (he also probably had his best work behind him).
I am talking about artist who just kept getting in their own way (whatever that means to you) if that makes sense?
Anyway, I keep reading about how Grand Puba couldn't get it together which is sad because at one point that dude was poised to be the man.
I also read recently about Dev Hines (Blood Orange) picking a fight with Solange online. I can't think that helped his career which I thought was going to take off.
19. "definitely at the top of this list" In response to Reply # 1
even as recent as 2015-2016 Republic Records took a chance on him. He sobered up and was taking his meds. He was an opening act for freaking Lupe's Tetsuo & Youth tour, making solid music again but unfortunately he crashed and burned again and he is really letting his mental illness destroy his life and music career.
25. "RE: "letting his mental illness destroy his life and music career."" In response to Reply # 24
Definitely didn't mean to victim blame, but I think most people suffering from mental illness would agree there is a degree of responsibility to take your meds, seek cognitive behavioral therapy, or whatever else you need to function in society.
There are lots of people who suffer from bipolar disorder who do just that. Its unfortunate but hopefully a healthier future is in his cards.
3. "Yeah and I shouldn't imply that fight ruined his career. " In response to Reply # 2
I thought of it because when Cupid Deluxe dropped I really thought dude was going to be big. Then he kinda of fizzled. I wondered why but seeing him fight with Solange like that in such a fashion kinda gave me the impression he was a difficult dude to work with. Especially when he made amneds after her stock rose and his fell. I could have that whole thing wrong, just what it looks like from the outside.
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
>I thought of it because when Cupid Deluxe dropped I really >thought dude was going to be big. Then he kinda of fizzled. >I wondered why but seeing him fight with Solange like that in >such a fashion kinda gave me the impression he was a difficult >dude to work with. Especially when he made amneds after her >stock rose and his fell. I could have that whole thing wrong, >just what it looks like from the outside. >
I'm no expert but I feel like this is a bit off. I think he's sort of intentionally played things a bit low key, done some more avant/instrumental-ish projects in the art world, and found more footing in the indie-ish world than elsewhere --- but he's never lost cred or dropped a career-wrecking project.
Jay may not have made as many official releases as you may have liked for him to have, but he has still dropped several songs over that time period and he still has had an impact.
Yes, he had a good run for a while, so it can't be said his career didn't bloom at all.
But, he stopped making music altogether for a while when he still had a fanbase that would have loved to support his music. However, I don't know anything about his personal life, so maybe distancing himself from music was a worthwhile choice.
14. "you talking bout yasiin bey?" In response to Reply # 13
>Yes, he had a good run for a while, so it can't be said his >career didn't bloom at all. > >But, he stopped making music altogether for a while when he >still had a fanbase that would have loved to support his >music. However, I don't know anything about his personal life, >so maybe distancing himself from music was a worthwhile >choice.
16. "I thought the same" In response to Reply # 13
but then wasn’t quite sure.
He didn’t have the career *I* wanted him to have, but who am I? Maybe he had the career he wanted to have? I can’t say a guy sabotaged his career if he was making the music he wanted to make, when he wanted to make it.
17. "Yea I think that's right." In response to Reply # 16
>He didn’t have the career *I* wanted him to have, but who am I? Maybe he had the career he wanted to have? I can’t say a guy sabotaged his career if he was making the music he wanted to make, when he wanted to make it.
20. "i think mos and jay elec both fit into your assessment" In response to Reply # 16
they both were poised to be put in with the greats...they both decided to fall back and live life in nomadic fashion and drop music when they felt like it on their own terms...i think they did it the way they wanted to do it
>but then wasn’t quite sure. > >He didn’t have the career *I* wanted him to have, but who am >I? Maybe he had the career he wanted to have? I can’t say >a guy sabotaged his career if he was making the music he >wanted to make, when he wanted to make it.
18. "got to be at the top of this list" In response to Reply # 0
even as recent as 2015-2016 Republic Records took a chance on him. He sobered up and was taking his meds. He was an opening act for freaking Lupe's Tetsuo & Youth tour, making solid music again but unfortunately he crashed and burned again and he is really letting his mental illness destroy his life and music career.
Tiger Woods Member since Feb 15th 2004 18386 posts
Tue Jan-17-23 08:17 AM
22. "Lauryn Hill unplugged sucks, and eventually people realized that" In response to Reply # 0
Lauryn Hill had the right idea - go “serious” - but she didn’t have the actual singer songwriter chops she was teasing and obviously didn’t have any good people in her ear either
Unplugged blows and I think when people got past it and realized it for what it was, basically a stunt, Lauryn didn’t have a follow up. She didn’t wanna master guitar and maybe the ego was too great to open up the net of collaborators.
normal35762 Member since Oct 20th 2004 13246 posts
Wed Jan-25-23 06:48 AM
36. "Yeah I wasn't feelin that Unplugged when it came out except for 1 track." In response to Reply # 22
I wasn't a fan of the popular Miseducation songs that were on the radio so I didn't tap into that but gave the Unplugged a chance because of the hype. Forgettable.
28. "RE: Nah he's had a great career." In response to Reply # 27
As I remember, there was a couple years where he was saying some off the wall sh!t. I stopped listening for a bit, but then he came back in a big ways and I am back on the BLU train.
29. "Yea he went thru some mental issues, for sure." In response to Reply # 28
But I don't think it made much of a blip. And didn't derail his career. So he's low on the list if he's on it at all. He's been around for the better part of 2 decades now and has made some of the best music over that time period. And if whatever he was going thru derailed him at all, it clearly wasn't much and not for long. I barely even remembered it til you brought him up.
31. "It's interesting that so many conscious acts like Mos, Badu, Lauryn Hill..." In response to Reply # 0
D'angelo voluntarily withdrew from the limelight. I don't think they had bad careers, they just really didn't want it the way acts like, heck, Common or the Roots did.
I get it. SOme folks just want a little shine and piece of mind.
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
32. "RE: Name an Artist who sabotaged their own career?" In response to Reply # 0
Canibus...that said, he still crushed dude LYRICALLY, but is pretty much done professionally, yet LL is still licking his lips and cashing large checks...
33. "Aka The Canibus Post " In response to Reply # 0
Granted, Wyclef did him absolutely zero favors but man had all the momentum in the world and fucked his into oblivion with a series of increasingly bizarre and boneheaded moves.
Damn shame too because he was so unbelievably talented. I still listen to his early freestyles and maintain that the Rip the Jacker album is phenomenal.
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