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obsidianchrysalis
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Wed Jul-13-22 10:38 PM

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"Unapproved album covers for The Tipping Point (Happy 18th)"


  

          

15 posted about five label-rejected album covers for The Tipping Point.

https://www.facebook.com/questlove/photos/pcb.2228592610628051/2228592503961395/

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Celebrating my least favorite kid #TheTippingPoint (ok lemme rephrase that) 2004 was a really tough year. But I can’t be all “celebrate Buck Moon/turn new leaf” & then stick to old narratives of “failure” & “meh”——so there ALOT of lessons to learn.

Most of our records have alt covers. For 2004s TTP we had 15 covers to choose once we got a rejection from the Ali estate to use his photo (also prevented of using the Malcolm X photo on the explicit version of the lp) designed by our longtime designer since #ThingsFallApart @gravillisinc ——I remember we wanted a disjointed cover where @TheRoots (or the title) was cut off.

(@geffenrecords was NOT with it)—-I gotta find the remaining covers but yeah—-happy 18th! 7/13/04 The Tipping Point.

<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Reminds me of Things Fall Apart.
Jul 14th 2022
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Yea I'm actually glad they went with what they went with.
Jul 14th 2022
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I agree with both of you
Jul 14th 2022
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Yep exactly.
Jul 14th 2022
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Soon would be a good time for a new album
Jul 14th 2022
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The Ali one is so good.
Jul 15th 2022
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LeroyBumpkin
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Thu Jul-14-22 10:57 AM

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1. "Reminds me of Things Fall Apart."
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Just the style of the images.

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Brew
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Thu Jul-14-22 02:17 PM

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2. "Yea I'm actually glad they went with what they went with."
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Things Fall Apart covered the black and white, this album deserved different treatment. And, more importantly, TFA deserves to stand alone.

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obsidianchrysalis
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Thu Jul-14-22 03:25 PM

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These definitely reference the TFA covers. But I also like that the band went with a different aesthetic.

I think the TFA covers are so unique and iconic (to me) that going back to that well would take away their impact.

<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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Brew
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Thu Jul-14-22 03:37 PM

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4. "Yep exactly."
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Thu Jul-14-22 03:41 PM by Brew

          

>These definitely reference the TFA covers. But I also like
>that the band went with a different aesthetic.
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>I think the TFA covers are so unique and iconic (to me) that
>going back to that well would take away their impact.

For better and worse, Tipping Point (and every album, Roots or otherwise) needs/needed to have its own aesthetic to stand on its own. And you nailed it, the impact of the TFA cover would be, however slightly, diminished by copycatting it for what most of us view as the far lesser album. (Though I'm in the camp that really likes TTP, while simultaneously recognizing and acknowledging its obvious and well-documented flaws).

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makaveli
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Thu Jul-14-22 04:17 PM

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5. "Soon would be a good time for a new album"
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Hi 15.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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phemom
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Fri Jul-15-22 05:29 PM

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6. "The Ali one is so good."
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Especially if it was in color and the red of the glove would've stood out so well on the CD or LP rack.

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