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"Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers (May 13, 2022)"


  

          

https://pitchfork.com/news/kendrick-lamar-announces-new-album-mr-morale-and-the-big-steppers/

Kendrick Lamar has tweeted a new link to his Oklama website. And, on the site, the rapper revealed his new album’s title and release date: Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers is out May 13.

https://oklama.com/step

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
dope
Apr 18th 2022
1
Dot is definitely someone I don’t have to hear anything from first.
Apr 18th 2022
2
Very hyped.
Apr 18th 2022
3
Ready.
Apr 18th 2022
4
May looking nice with this and Black Star
Apr 18th 2022
5
Folks getting vinyl? Help keep me updated.
Apr 19th 2022
6
no details annouced yet - surely vinyl will drop
Apr 20th 2022
7
RE: the announcement was shared by a bunch of cats
Apr 22nd 2022
8
Terrace has been producing for Kendrick since S.80
May 04th 2022
18
What are your expectations? sound / lyrical themes / features
Apr 22nd 2022
9
I just want a black hippy song.
Apr 25th 2022
10
      That would be dope too
Apr 26th 2022
11
There are no great rap double albums.
May 04th 2022
12
RE: There are no great rap double albums.
May 04th 2022
13
Wu Tang Forever is near perfect imo
May 04th 2022
14
Same
May 04th 2022
15
verbatim
May 04th 2022
17
It’s not from the 90s, but I’m going Big KRIT- 4Eva is a Mighty Long...
May 04th 2022
19
      2nd 4eva
May 05th 2022
20
      What makes 4Eva great is it's 2 albums packaged as one, not a "double al...
May 05th 2022
22
           yes I forgot about Drogas Wave
May 10th 2022
27
Yeah, I agree with you and IkeMoses
May 04th 2022
16
RE: Yeah, I agree with you and IkeMoses
May 05th 2022
24
meh...Kendrick already came close
May 05th 2022
21
      Have any specific detail/info/links on this ?
May 05th 2022
23
           oh man testing my memory
May 05th 2022
25
                Not sure but I think a lot of these were recorded after AEOM
May 23rd 2022
79
What's the word on the physical copy release?
May 10th 2022
26
No announcements yet.
May 11th 2022
28
ok bet. id like to get the cd if possible. we'll see,
May 12th 2022
31
RE: What's the word on the physical copy release?
Jun 08th 2022
87
Album cover (Tweet and HipHopDX swipe)
May 12th 2022
29
RE: Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers (May 13, 2022)
May 12th 2022
30
Shoes?
May 12th 2022
32
      Leimberg worked on TPAB
May 12th 2022
33
           RE: this was way off - disappointly so
May 13th 2022
40
           You're right.
May 13th 2022
42
what a pleasant surprise when things actually drop on time.
May 12th 2022
34
What an album
May 13th 2022
35
This is unbelievable
May 13th 2022
36
RE: Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers (May 13, 2022)
May 13th 2022
37
a lot of filler.
May 13th 2022
38
yeah....REAL lump crab
May 13th 2022
46
Gonna take a while to digest all of this
May 13th 2022
39
this is Kendrick coping with his trauma and his sex addiction
May 13th 2022
41
RE: Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers (May 13, 2022)
May 13th 2022
43
he's going deeper with this one
May 13th 2022
44
Initial reaction: It's an interesting album, but it's not for me
May 13th 2022
45
I feel the same way n/m
May 18th 2022
63
Worldwide Steppers beat switch is so dope
May 18th 2022
69
I find it so interesting that he chose a non rapper for "We Cry Together...
May 13th 2022
47
oh wow, I was wondering why her Spotify page was empty
May 13th 2022
48
Man he knew what was needed
May 28th 2022
83
Purple Hearts…
May 13th 2022
49
Yeah, this the one
May 14th 2022
52
Incredible. “Father Time” got me too
May 14th 2022
53
Did NOT expect Ghostface to actually have a verse
May 14th 2022
57
      AND he killed it
May 18th 2022
64
           Facts. I was worried.
May 28th 2022
84
This was needed.
May 13th 2022
50
great post
May 14th 2022
51
Completely agreed.
May 14th 2022
55
I love this
May 14th 2022
54
We Cry Together reminds me of Kim
May 14th 2022
56
My first thought was Domestic Violence by RZA/Bob Digi
May 14th 2022
58
      When RZA did this, it was labeled as misogynistic
May 15th 2022
60
Yall hear this Zero 7 Song in Kendrick's Mirror?
May 15th 2022
59
I'd have to listen to it again but I was getting some very light 4Hero
May 20th 2022
73
RE: Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers (May 13, 2022)
May 17th 2022
61
See that's the wild part because
May 28th 2022
85
Deeper context for We Cry Together (Variety link)
May 18th 2022
62
Nah man this is wrong. They erasing hip-hop history.
May 18th 2022
66
      I feel like the lady kind of missed the point too
May 18th 2022
68
      I thought the piece was an interesting exploration of the gender politic...
May 20th 2022
74
haven't given this the attention it deserves yet
May 18th 2022
65
it'd be better as a single disc
May 18th 2022
67
this is me.
May 20th 2022
71
      RE: that's where I am with it too
May 20th 2022
76
Bookmark
May 20th 2022
70
I wonder what Jay Electronica thinks of this album, For real.
May 20th 2022
72
It's him at his best but it's not my favorite, and I'm the reason why
May 20th 2022
75
great post...few things
May 20th 2022
77
Sorry, I forgot about this post
Jul 01st 2022
94
That Radiohead comparison is facts
May 28th 2022
86
CD, T-Shirt Box(??) release. No vinyl yet.
May 23rd 2022
78
Interesting that "Big Steppers" is the first half.
May 23rd 2022
80
Why does general discussion have more convo on this?
May 24th 2022
81
I feel like he accomplished everything he set out to
May 24th 2022
82
I hate the word "classic"
Jun 08th 2022
88
Umm.. pretty much every rapper
Jun 08th 2022
89
      Haha yea I was gonna say .. most of the MCs who brought us here ...
Jun 09th 2022
90
      What are we pretending here?
Jun 30th 2022
93
Vinyl Pre-Order
Jun 30th 2022
91
so I was/am interested but I'm passing for now
Jun 30th 2022
92
If this is judgy, then let me know
Jul 01st 2022
95
"aloof Buddha / Chris with a shooter"
Jul 05th 2022
96
      Yeah, good points
Jul 05th 2022
97

mista k5
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1. "dope"
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I don't want to hear a thing until it releases. No single, no snippet. The title is a bit odd but I guess most of his have been.

  

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2. "Dot is definitely someone I don’t have to hear anything from first."
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Just give me the release date and the link.

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3. "Very hyped. "
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<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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4. "Ready."
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https://digife.com

  

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5. "May looking nice with this and Black Star"
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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6. "Folks getting vinyl? Help keep me updated."
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I'm trying to get in on this.

https://digife.com

  

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agentzero
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7. "no details annouced yet - surely vinyl will drop"
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To people like US, a record is a piece of history. A moment in time.
Most people don't get it.

  

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8. "RE: the announcement was shared by a bunch of cats"
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terrace, taz arnold.

I hope that means he got some joints on there

  

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18. "Terrace has been producing for Kendrick since S.80"
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He's definitely gonna have some joints on there.

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9. "What are your expectations? sound / lyrical themes / features"
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Outside of means of expression of his content - psueduo-first-person accounts of personal experiences - the subject matter has differed quite a bit, album to album.

The title doesn't really give any hints as to the focus of his album. Although it does suggest it'll be telling the story of Mr. Morale. Using Morale as a last name suggests the theme could the internal experience or mood of someone. But I could (and probably am) reaching.

I personally would want him to abandon the fish out of water, conflicted prophet theme. Along with the concept album form. I think he's mined everything from that style of storytelling.

I personally wanted him to explore gender with his next album. I'm not trying to write a thinkpiece, but given how insightful he is to the experiences of young Black men, it would be interesting to see him try that same approach in a less comfortable realm. I don't think he could get away from rapping as a woman, but maybe rap about women using a more modern and broad sense of gender.

As far the sound of his album, some people have mentioned that he was experimenting with rock. But that news was years ago. We have no way of knowing if he scrapped that work and went in another direction.

I also wonder if he'll have younger artists as featured artists. Of course, it would be fan service to have Cole on there. But given that he won a Grammy for working with Baby Keem, maybe he'll adopt styles that this new generation uses.

But if this new album is just a remastered repackaging of his greatest hits, I'll listen to that and play True Detective with all of the context cues. I'm just glad to get more Kendrick.

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10. "I just want a black hippy song."
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All 4 guys providing bars.....I know it won't happen tho.

Maybe we'll get one on Ab-Soul's one tho.

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11. "That would be dope too"
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It might be the last chance at one too, with Kendrick leaving the label and all.

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12. "There are no great rap double albums."
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If I may borrow the words of my fellow #thatsite brother IkeMoses:

"There are no great rap double albums.
Every rap double album would be better as
a single album. Please forward this message to Kendrick.

Not All Eyez. Not Life After Death.
Not Speakerboxx. Not Wu-Tang Forever.
Wu-Tang had at least 10 niggas rappin and
still didn’t have enough heat for a double album.
Don’t do it. It can’t be done."

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13. "RE: There are no great rap double albums."
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Truth...

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14. "Wu Tang Forever is near perfect imo"
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and easily the best double LP

The only tracks I skip are Black Shampoo and the Wu revolution intro

  

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15. "Same"
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>and easily the best double LP
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>The only tracks I skip are Black Shampoo and the Wu revolution
>intro



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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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17. "verbatim"
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19. "It’s not from the 90s, but I’m going Big KRIT- 4Eva is a Mighty Long..."
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And I say it’s not from the 90s, meaning it just didn’t have near the same impact as WU, BIG, and Pac. But it’s a great album.

I think Life After Death was a few tracks away - which does support the point. But those few tracks may have still been there even if it wasn’t a double album. May have been more of a Puff thing than a double album thing.

All Eyez On Me should’ve been one disc. Tons of filler.

Tribe - We Got it From Here…, and UGK - Underground Kingz are strong albums. Not sure Id cut anything from that Tribe album.

  

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20. "2nd 4eva"
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That one is fire front to back. Also Wutang Forever I don't get the idea that It's not a great double CD. Life After Death there's a better case for cutting it down a bit, but I really don't see it as a failing of that album. Most albums, even sub 13 track albums have a few lackluster joints, if not downright skippable ones.

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22. "What makes 4Eva great is it's 2 albums packaged as one, not a "double al..."
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Double albums that are just one giant collection of songs are typically bad news, but double albums that are 2 separate albums/discs of specific visions usually fair much better. Lupe's DROGAS Wave fits in that definition as well.

I have confidence in Kendrick. If there is *any* rapper out right now who can pull this off it's him.

But worst case scenario, we're in the Spotify/streaming era and I'll just create a playlist of the best single-album worth of material if this goes a bit off the rails.

  

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27. "yes I forgot about Drogas Wave"
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great, classic piece of work.
definitely disagree on this point
I need to go back to that krit.
and I have faith that Kendrick can make a great double album

  

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16. "Yeah, I agree with you and IkeMoses"
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A double album may have one or two extra tracks that are fire. But there will be six or seven or more tracks that are essentially filler.

Also, double albums do not age well at all. I went back and listened to All Eyez on Me about seven months ago. To me, the album is very bloated. The tracks that stood out still work well. But about 75% of that album is filler and unnecessary. It would have made a great 16-track album, tho.

My question is how the album fits into Kendrick's fulfillment of his contract. Does a double album fulfill his obligation to TDE? Or would he still owe the label an album if he only released one disc?

That being said, I will still wear the hell out of this like I have his other four albums.

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24. "RE: Yeah, I agree with you and IkeMoses"
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The two cds in hand on the pic definitely gave me contractual obligation vibes. I doubt Kendrick gives a half assed attempted release like Logic did with his last release where he basically said this was released to fulfill my contract.

  

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21. "meh...Kendrick already came close"
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TPAB could have easily been a great double album. Its long as is...just add a few more tracks (like the Colbert/Untitled joint for instance) and make them two short discs. Done.


maybe there aren't great ones, but there are really good ones, and I don't knock him for trying.

Before Kanye revealed himself to be what he is and I still checked for him, I always thought he could pull it off.

Same with the Roots in their prime.


As far as the ones who have...KRIT came close, so did Lupe.


What's sad about All Eyez on Me is that some great songs were originally supposed to be on it that got shelved for whatever reason. There's original tracklists out there that include some really good joints that have come out since. Even then, I think if you trim it to 10-11 songs a disc it gets a lot closer.

Knowing Nas I'm sure the same can be said for SD


I'm curious how close Kendrick can get *shrugs*




  

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23. "Have any specific detail/info/links on this ?"
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I was a Death Row fiend when this album came out and I don't think I even knew this, unless I'm forgetting. I'd be interested in hearing the tracks and seeing the tracklist.


>What's sad about All Eyez on Me is that some great songs were
>originally supposed to be on it that got shelved for whatever
>reason. There's original tracklists out there that include
>some really good joints that have come out since.

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25. "oh man testing my memory"
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I know he recorded a ton of songs (well always) for that album and the tracklist/title was always changing. A few songs I'm pretty sure were originally meant for that album or at least were recorded around the time if memory serves-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdiQq_W2TuY&ab_channel=BTheWest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoNDj_OJAqw&ab_channel=MrWicked61671

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFkD3pCkwtQ&ab_channel=jghphhhf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnCMWQP-uVY&ab_channel=Makaveli5458

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgoK1npGvoI&ab_channel=2PacRadio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2L7_G_HQeE&ab_channel=8uLleTpRooF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju-e-oM44yw&ab_channel=DeathRowVault
(^^ may be one example where the remix is better)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eylpSiX765M&ab_channel=LengCentral9mm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iODZx9z00G0&ab_channel=JDub2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCF_cyxA8o8&ab_channel=HouseRepsWestCoast


Kurupt rips this-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f82BwqZ63VA&ab_channel=TupacShakur


You'll know this one....I could be wrong about it being meant for AEOM but fuckit I figured you'd enjoy the reminder-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz7WnHHIXyg&ab_channel=shamflip



I mean some vintage Pac, imo a couple classic tracks (he RIPs Late Nite), etc. Maybe not all classic songs or anything but any handful of these would have make AEOM stronger. Not sure why some songs didn't make it...maybe a Nas type thing of over-thinking stuff or the label got involved I don't know.

A lot of these were remixed (terribly) and put on his posthumous albums. A lot of info has come out the last I dont know 10 years maybe about his original track lists, timelines, etc.

  

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79. "Not sure but I think a lot of these were recorded after AEOM"
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He did AEOM in two weeks and didn’t like it that much. It’s a shame they messed up all those tracks when they were officially released.

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26. "What's the word on the physical copy release?"
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No preorders or nothing on Amazon yet. I'm out the loop maybe. If Im right is this pretty much the standard these days? School me.

  

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28. "No announcements yet."
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His official website might be the best place to start.
Especially if you're looking for different vinyl variants.
But if they haven't announced anything yet, it might show up Friday.

https://digife.com

  

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31. "ok bet. id like to get the cd if possible. we'll see,"
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87. "RE: What's the word on the physical copy release?"
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>No preorders or nothing on Amazon yet. I'm out the loop
>maybe. If Im right is this pretty much the standard these
>days? School me.

The CD is available now. I bought it on Amazon for $13.98.
It's one disc.


Balcony Music, Volume Five
AVAILABLE NOW
https://waldorfandstatler.bandcamp.com/album/balcony-music-volume-five-the-story-of-us

  

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29. "Album cover (Tweet and HipHopDX swipe)"
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https://twitter.com/kendricklamar/status/1524468860044267520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1524468860044267520%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fhiphopdx.com%2Fnews%2Fid.70195%2Ftitle.kendrick-lamar-reveals-mr-morale-the-big-steppers-album-cover

https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.70195/title.kendrick-lamar-reveals-mr-morale-the-big-steppers-album-cover

<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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30. "RE: Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers (May 13, 2022)"
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Ok so producers will include (based on IG posts):
Taz
Dahi
Houseshoes(?!)
Alchemist
Josef Leimberg
Sounwave

  

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32. "Shoes?"
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As in Detroit HouseShoes?

The Josef Leimberg sounds interesting.

https://digife.com

  

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33. "Leimberg worked on TPAB"
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--

"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

  

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40. "RE: this was way off - disappointly so"
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lol

maybe shoes made some connections there? no idea why he woulda been on the press run.

  

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42. "You're right. "
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I saw the name and for some reason thought Shafiq Husayn.

https://digife.com

  

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34. "what a pleasant surprise when things actually drop on time. "
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I'm about to burn and dig in...

  

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35. "What an album"
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Hits hard towards the end

I'm gonna be sleepy in the morning lol

  

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36. "This is unbelievable "
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37. "RE: Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers (May 13, 2022)"
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Very dope. Very dope. I'm going to need some time with it to get/understand more of what he is saying, but the music is unquestionably fire.

I really hate to be "that guy" but...


...this a classic.

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38. "a lot of filler."
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46. "yeah....REAL lump crab"
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for the cakes...

  

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39. "Gonna take a while to digest all of this"
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There's a lot going on.

Looks like art-house hip hop is back

  

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41. "this is Kendrick coping with his trauma and his sex addiction "
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His most personal album on some Marvin Gaye Here My Dear shit.

Loved this on first listen, a lot of the topics hit close for me.

  

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43. "RE: Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers (May 13, 2022)"
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>https://pitchfork.com/news/kendrick-lamar-announces-new-album-mr-morale-and-the-big-steppers/
>
>Kendrick Lamar has tweeted a new link to his Oklama website.
>And, on the site, the rapper revealed his new album’s title
>and release date: Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers is out May
>13.
>
>https://oklama.com/step

I like it. I like what I think he’s been trying to do this whole time. I’m a sucker for context and his shit is a constant barrage of asking you to consider the context. I don’t always need ‘jams’. I don’t grade albums like multiple choice tests with scantrons. And certainly not after 1-2 listens. And I try not to go into albums like this with assumptions or expectations of what the content will be.

I’m certainly not claiming nobility. It’s just how I listen to stuff. It sounds like he gave a lot of himself to get the thoughts out. He’s good at the rapping part. He’s figuring everything else out. I’ll take it, appreciate it, and be glad if he ever shows up again. ‘I choose me, I’m sorry’ as the last words doesn’t sound like a person who is gonna be prolific all of a sudden! But hey, rappers/artists are kinda like wrestlers. Aka fully quitting seems like a hard as hell thing to do and stick to.

  

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44. "he's going deeper with this one"
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This is definitely his most personal and emotionally raw to date
It feels extremely therapeutic.

I am glad i got to hear this the first time alone with some headphones on lying on my couch in the dark this morning.

Stylistically feels like an extension of his DAMN. flows and vocal choices. Musically, it sounds like there's a heavy modern Brit soul influence. Glad the rock-inspired sound rumors weren't true. Not that he couldn't pull that off in a dope way, but rock-inspired rap could go in so many directions.. many of which are corny-sounding.


faves so far:
purple hearts
rich spirit
mother i sober

personal note: I'm much older than Kendrick, but I got married shortly after the release of DAMN. We played LOVE. at our reception.
I've become a stepfather and eventually a biological father since that time. Have had my struggles with different addictions and also dealt with the addictions and sexual trauma of family members. Currently going through a renewed exploration of faith with my wife. So this really hits close to home for me on different levels.

  

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45. "Initial reaction: It's an interesting album, but it's not for me"
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The most important piece of music for me is that it sounds good, that I enjoy the listening experience. There's no denying Kendrick is writing thought-provoking songs on topics that are super personal and occasionally taboo/untouched in hip hop. "Auntie Diaries", for example, checks both of those boxes. On paper it's an A+, but I'm nearly bored to tears listening to it. It's not what I'm looking for when I'm listening to music, it's not my cup of tea.

For me, dope beats, dope rhymes (c) Phonte, it's a simple formula. Part of dope rhymes is a delivery I can flow/vibe with. I care more about that than the words themselves. Not to say I'd rather a rapper just talking bullshit, but if your message doesn't have an enjoyable delivery I'm inclined to skip to the next song.

There's a lot of songs on here that I like parts of. "Worldwide Steppers" is a miss to me until the beat switch 2/3rds of the way through but then I'm immediately disappointed that the beat switches back like 10-15 seconds later.

"United in Grief" had me super excited that this entire album was gonna have a consistent off-beat jazz vibe to it, kind of like an extension of TPAB's jazzier elements.

It's funny to me that people are saying "We Cry Together" is that song that, while they like it, won't be one they'll come back to listen to. I fucking loved that shit, and it's definitely the standout to me. It was like that Zendaya/JDW movie Malcolm & Marie on wax. I think it's super replayable.

This is an album that definitely deserves full-length listens, yet I can't see myself ever listening to it in full in the future.

All of this is coming off of 3 full listens and one where I bounced around, all on headphones. This certainly isn't a "listen to while driving in the car" album, I can't imagine this hitting any different in any other context other than me laying on my couch with my headphones in.

TPAB took a long time to grow on me so we'll see if this one does the same.

Unrelated to the music itself, it seems that just like with DAMN critics are all jumping to be the first to call this a classic. Basically universal perfect scores across the board.

  

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63. "I feel the same way n/m"
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69. "Worldwide Steppers beat switch is so dope"
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I wish it was longer too

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Gang Starr / Nujabes blend - https://youtu.be/lsci1vu6ick
DOOM Tribute - https://youtu.be/qmBQ2BDefKM
Donut of the Heart cover in Javascript - https://youtu.be/afLc2CkC8lk

  

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47. "I find it so interesting that he chose a non rapper for "We Cry Together..."
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Taylor Paige is an actress and she killed that shit for that reason specifically, but she was also flowing super comfortably. Shockingly good, so much so that I really wonder if/how he's ever going to do this song justice in a live setting if at all.

It's clear Kendrick wrote all of it but her timing and delivery was impeccable

  

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48. "oh wow, I was wondering why her Spotify page was empty"
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she KILLED that shit

  

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83. "Man he knew what was needed"
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Actors be acting.

  

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49. "Purple Hearts…"
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Fire emoji

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Woe unto him who in this world courts not dishonor.

  

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52. "Yeah, this the one"
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53. "Incredible. “Father Time” got me too"
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57. "Did NOT expect Ghostface to actually have a verse"
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I thought it was gonna be one of those vocal sample features (e.g. RZA on Ronald Reagan Era or U-God on Blu's Doin' Nothin), but man that was a pleasant surprise when Ghost started spitting.

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64. "AND he killed it"
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best verse of his i've heard in a minute

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https://smallprofessor.bandcamp.com

  

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84. "Facts. I was worried. "
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You can tell he took it more seriously than a lot of his post-Bulletproof output

  

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50. "This was needed. "
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AMBITIOUS.

Gotta give Kendrick his flowers for going for it with this one. He layed himself out like a funeral suit.

This is a deeply personal album and he didn't hide behind any bullshit. He was just letting shit go and testifying and I have to say it was jarring on the first listen just because of the way he went about it.

The fact the he was so all over the place and was able to mostly keep this narrative of trauma, trials, and triumphs cohesive is pretty incredible.

The standouts for me so far are Die Hard, Father Time, We Cry Together, Savior, Mother|Sober, and Mirror. Father Time and Mother|Sober especially were really the foundational tracks on this to me. This album is full of duality.

I fuck with this hard but I know it won't be for everyone. I'm just glad to live in a time where an album like this can exist and exist as a hip hop album. As cliche as it sounds it's a watershed moment that moves the art form forward in a commanding way.

  

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51. "great post"
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cosign all of this.

Incredible album. I saw someone say its like listening in on his therapy sessions or reading his diary or some shit and I'd say that is accurate.

Impressive work of art.

  

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55. "Completely agreed."
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>IAs cliche as it sounds
>it's a watershed moment that moves the art form forward in a
>commanding way.

It does a beautiful job of bridging what we already know about the artist yet is determined to probe further and to more intimate levels than we're used to with most of our favorite artists.

My movies: http://russellhainline.com
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54. "I love this"
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So much more to say later, but I just love it pretty much top to bottom this might be my favorite of his.

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56. "We Cry Together reminds me of Kim"
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Which means I’ll probably never listen to it again, but I’ll never forget it.

  

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58. "My first thought was Domestic Violence by RZA/Bob Digi"
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Ghost is on the very next track so I'd like to think the Wu connection was intentional.

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60. "When RZA did this, it was labeled as misogynistic "
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but when Kendrick does it.. he is a creative genius providing insight into the duality of toxicity … LOL

  

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59. "Yall hear this Zero 7 Song in Kendrick's Mirror?"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRtGBUkVbtA


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73. "I'd have to listen to it again but I was getting some very light 4Hero "
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type vibes from some of the beats tho. And you can fit Zero 7 in there too.

  

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61. "RE: Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers (May 13, 2022)"
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The more I listen the more I feel like this is his best work. It really is everything I love about Kendrick put together.

WORLDWIDE STEPPERS IS BEST.

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85. "See that's the wild part because"
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This dude won a Pulitzer and managed to do even better and more wtf

  

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62. "Deeper context for We Cry Together (Variety link)"
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Interesting breakdown of the similarities of the song The Boiler by Special A.K.A. and We Cry Together.

The arrangements of both songs aren't terribly alike, but they both deal with gender politics and are so authentic they're scary.

https://variety.com/2022/music/news/kendrick-lamar-we-cry-together-eminem-kim-boiler-1235269707/?fbclid=IwAR2ibeb04hwu_8X6s-_X4fGHgYNcQPXXY4y7ZeaNSCgvIQ9hb-M7e96dRLo

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66. "Nah man this is wrong. They erasing hip-hop history. "
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Why go stragiht to Eminem's Kim or some British crap 30 years old and skip out RZA's Domestic Violence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVFWiqUash8

This is why you don't let non-hip-hop folks write about hip-hop.



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68. "I feel like the lady kind of missed the point too"
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>“It’s kind of disappointing, because she caves at the end, doesn’t she?,” she says. “It’s like, ‘Oh no, she’s gonna go back to him!’ And at the end, where she caves and says, ‘fuck me,’ I was really disappointed: I’m reading it as an abusive relationship where she is essentially colluding in the abuse. That’s something women don’t get taught not to do, in a sense. You know, ‘He may be abusive, but at least I’ve got a man.’ It made me annoyed.”

"Stop tap dancing around the conversation" was the last line of the track - Kendrick knows the ending isn't ideal as they didn't resolve anything.

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74. "I thought the piece was an interesting exploration of the gender politic..."
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and the chaos of the song. But you're right that it also doesn't touch very much on the song's context within hip-hop.

A missed opportunity.

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65. "haven't given this the attention it deserves yet"
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But two casual listens has me thinking this is going to be more like TPAB for me in the Kendrick canon: top-notch as art, but something I won't listen to a whole lot for a range of reasons: it's super heavy; it's pretty long yet probably best listened to as an album; relatedly, the standouts are best appreciated as standouts within the album, not just as standalone songs; a number of cuts are really, really good and powerful but they're not anything I'm going to put on on their own.

And like TPAB, I'll probably put this on once or twice a year and keep digging deeper, finding new things to admire about it.

None of this detracts from the quality at all. Not all music needs to be easily digestible. A lot of my absolute favorite stuff isn't. And I'm looking forward to a real close listen this weekend. But even if I grow to absolutely love this album, it will probably take a lot of time.

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67. "it'd be better as a single disc"
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the Spike Lee Joint jazz monologues after every song aren't necessary but there's an excellent piece of work in here

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71. "this is me."
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I was waiting to get a few more listens in before I claimed this,
but I'm thinking my stance on double albums remains.

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76. "RE: that's where I am with it too"
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>I was waiting to get a few more listens in before I claimed
>this,
>but I'm thinking my stance on double albums remains.

it's even worse when you realize it's only 18 songs, could've been whittled down to about 12 or so and be a better listening experience

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70. "Bookmark "
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72. "I wonder what Jay Electronica thinks of this album, For real."
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75. "It's him at his best but it's not my favorite, and I'm the reason why"
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This album comes off as an hour-long version of 'u' from To Pimp a Butterfly. Or a really intense therapy session.

I remember Mixed by Ali saying that the album was pulling from rock influences and I can see this. There's a lot of edgy music, at least in the sense of like Hail to the Thief Radiohead. And there's a lot of stuff that sounds like Speakerboxx/The Love Below OutKast. I never really noticed the OutKast similarities in Kendrick's music like others, but I can definitely hear it here.

It's such a challenging listen in the best of ways. The first listen really put me off. He's always probed his subject matter deeply, but he tunnels deep into himself and not only that some of the 'worst' aspects of his identities. I can't think of a particular comp, but it just strikes me like albums from the late '90s that were intentionally difficult to grasp and take in.

Like others have said, I think the structure and his level of mastery push things forward. I can't see others matching this tho. He's just too good at making albums.

I've only listened to this twice and I'm not sure how much more I will listen to it. With his previous albums, I had more spare time and bandwidth to take in heavy emotional material. So, I could put his albums on while riding the bus and zone out for a half-hour or hour and enjoy. But it reminds me of watching Requiem for a Dream or Marriage Story. It's really intense in the best ways. But I can't foresee myself wanting to experience those emotions through art intentionally very often.

I had to step away and come back to We Cry Together. It sounds like a real fight. And I do like how he attempted to handle gender and relationships. It came off as someone still finding their footing with the best ways to communicate his previous internal conflicts. But I kind of like that he put that out there. I still think that there were better ways to communicate his points on Auntie Diaries than using the f-bomb, but as I said, he's still finding his way.

I've gone on long enough, but I want to touch on my block by liking this. And it's not so much the intensity of the depression and trauma he brings up.

In his previous albums, he used that 1st person storytelling technique where he was able to deflect his character weaknesses onto fictional characters. It made it out to be that he had things figured out. Not that as a 30+ man I needed to follow the ways of someone so young, regardless of how sensitive and introspective he is. He wasn't a savior or a prophet to me, but it was still inspirational to see someone so young be so self-aware.

But here, there's no filter here, and not only that he's going deeper into his mind and trauma to reveal something that is unsettling to take in. But I also realize that the reason I don't like that is that it's also causing me to think about aspects of myself that I like to avoid. So, in the end, my issue with the album is more with me than anything with the album.

So, all in all, it was a good experience. I can never get enough Kendrick, but I'm more interested to read about it than listen to it.

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77. "great post...few things"
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>This album comes off as an hour-long version of 'u' from To
>Pimp a Butterfly. Or a really intense therapy session.

Definitely. Adds to the brilliance imo.

>
>I remember Mixed by Ali saying that the album was pulling from
>rock influences and I can see this. There's a lot of edgy
>music, at least in the sense of like Hail to the Thief
>Radiohead.

Hmm...I'm curious about this. Are there specific tracks giving you a Radiohead vibe? I can kind of see it...and I like Radiohead...but I'm not a big enough fan to make the direct link. Curious about specific tracks.



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>Like others have said, I think the structure and his level of
>mastery push things forward. I can't see others matching this
>tho. He's just too good at making albums.

I think you nailed something about Kendrick that isn't talked about enough...dude crafts fucking albums. Might be why Damn is my least fav...seems like it wasn't "crafted" as intentionally as the others.

  

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94. "Sorry, I forgot about this post"
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I ran through the album and came up with songs that Kendrick may have been influenced by. Most of those references include certain 'tones' that Radiohead draws from. But some of the strings and piano work seems like Jon Brion (who did some work with Kanye on Late Registration). Songs like Father Time, Rich,

Untited in Grief
- All I Need (In Rainbows)
- Sit Down, Stand Up (Hail to the Thief)
(also the effects on the stings remind me of songs on A Moon Shaped Pool or How to Disappear Completely from Kid A)

Worldwide Steppers
- The National Anthem (Kid A)
- Ful Stop (A Moon Shaped Pool)

Crown
- Burn the Witch (A Moon Shaped Pool)
- Day Dreaming (A Moon Shaped Pool)

I don't think Kendrick and the producers necessarily cited Radiohead's work as a direct influence. But there's a loose connection that seemed worth mentioning.

Mother I Sober
- True Loves Waits (A Moon Shaped Pool)

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86. "That Radiohead comparison is facts"
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78. "CD, T-Shirt Box(??) release. No vinyl yet."
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https://store.interscope.com/pages/kendrick-lamar?utm_campaign=products&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=interscope.com

Guess the vinyl shortage is hurting everyone (well, except if you're Adele).

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80. "Interesting that "Big Steppers" is the first half."
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81. "Why does general discussion have more convo on this?"
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I'd rather not have to associate with the riff raff just to talk about a dope album.

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82. "I feel like he accomplished everything he set out to"
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It is an evolution of his sound and at the same time a deflation of his hip hop savior image(which he kinda shrugged off on TPAB but it didn't quite stick). He firmly places himself inside of all the problematic topics he discusses while also questioning them. Plus, it's FIRE!

I admit my first few times listening I was self conscious and feeling like if I couldn't give it my full attention I couldn't listen at all. That took away from my enjoyment of it, and made listening feel like a job. Once I got past that though, I think this is one of his most accessible albums musically. There's a bunch on here that can just blend into the background and you can just vibe to. Then there's the extra benefit that when you key back into it he is saying something really meaningful.

I have lamented about rappers who feel like they need to hire a string orchestra and start crooning all over the songs to make their music "respectable". I feel I've never really articulated why I hate that so much but this album is why. This album shows you can move music forward and evolve artistically AND still keep it hip hop.

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88. "I hate the word "classic""
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Rap has always been the emcees talking about themselves and bragging about what they have.

How many of them have bragged about who they're not?
What they want to be better at?
Their clear flaws?
Their psychosis?

Kendrick is open in a way that many will deny and act as if it's wack...to take the sting out of it....

...the exact same way that I'm the first to make the fat jokes so people don't hurt MY feelings.


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89. "Umm.. pretty much every rapper"
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labeled as “backpacker” has done this.. Atmosphere is the most obvious example

but of course, when you got the mainstream approval and Dr. Dre association, you dont get coined as alternative rap and receive praise as genius

  

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90. "Haha yea I was gonna say .. most of the MCs who brought us here ..."
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... do that, all the time.

Among many others.

Weird analysis.

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93. "What are we pretending here?"
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Are we pretending like this type of subject matter is very common in hip hop(any subgenre), or are we pretending that we don't know that a rappers skill level in delivering a message makes a big difference?

Kendrick has mainstream appeal because he's dope as hell AND knows how to make bops. That combination is EXTREMELY rare

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91. "Vinyl Pre-Order "
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for those that are interested.

https://oklama.com/store

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92. "so I was/am interested but I'm passing for now"
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That's kind of expensive. I do think it's an album I will want to have in my collection but I am going to wait. Hopefully I can find a copy when I'm looking.

I just spent over $400 on an upgraded cartridge and phono preamp so I HAVE to cool it on buying records for a few months.

Going to have to limit myself to rare ones that I HAVE to have.

  

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95. "If this is judgy, then let me know"
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But I kind of have a problem with the crown Kendrick's wearing during his appearances.

Okay, you're claiming not to be a 'savior.' Fine, I get that. And also he seems to be dropping any facade of being a prophet and embracing his contractions. Again, fine.

But you're wearing a crown referring to Christ's crucifixion, which could be viewed as sacrilegious. And on top of that, it's a Tiffany crown that cost over $3M. Not exactly meek.

I'm not judging his faith. I have holes in mine and it's not right to point out other's flaws with their spiritual walk unless it's causing direct harm to someone.

But maybe I am judging by making this post? Or just projecting some importance to him that is solely my creation? In which case, I need to check myself.

He's his own man and has the right to do what he pleases, as long as he's not hurting anyone. I dunno, I just feel a way about it.

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96. ""aloof Buddha / Chris with a shooter""
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the whole album is him admitting his contradictions, and it's resolved by him just accepting himself rather than vowing to change drastically

so in a way the 3 Million dollar crown is a contradiction. Even wearing the crown is a contradiction.

  

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97. "Yeah, good points"
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I can't argue with anything you said, and like you said he basically says throughout the album that he's a sinner, like everyone else.

For some reason, I'm having a hard time getting into this album.

The album is pretty much what I would have liked.
* Moves on from the first-person storytelling technique
* Approached gender
* Deeply personal
* Beats with new influences
* Able to handle different flows

I even liked that he talks about therapy, which is something that I didn't anticipate he'd do, but I appreciate that he went there.

But for some reason, I'm having problems warming up to the album. I'll have to keep giving it some spins.

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