on now, Lox kind of beatin the shit out of Dipset IMO

What a performer.

straight NYC concert...that jawnt gonna be hard to beat.

They brought that old, Tims and TFG energy and the crowd hopped on it early. Dipset has bangers but they had a wildly different energy for that crowd, and their song choices were weird. Too much Santana and Jones, too many hooks, not nearly enough Cam to pull off anything. Plus, they were doing karaoke while Donnie and 'em were actually spitting without a vocal track for 95% of their songs. Kiss pretty much bodied all of Bird Gang himself and gave zero fucks. LOX put on a clinic, Dipset just showed up

At least Freaky Zeakey made a good hype man?

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if that is not a shit show , then i don’t what is…

Obviously these guys are are not Red & Meth, Rza Premier, Snoop Dmx, Ghost Rae etc. So I guess they need all that extra shit, rather that the music doing most of the talking…

not sure of your age range but it was built on that kinda shit

i prefer the older approach, to each’s own

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> Ghost Rae etc

wtf?

beforehand i for sure thought this was a complete mismatch the other way.

but cam and em werent ready for the bright lights. niggas looking like larry holmes...

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>beforehand i for sure thought this was a complete mismatch the
>other way.

https://www.fite.tv/watch/dipset-vs-the-lox/2p9t6/

Lox were thoroughly prepared. They’d clearly mapped out their set expertly - from classic mixtape freestyles to anthems - and no song overstayed it’s welcome. Their DJ is a pro, All instrumentals. An up ans coming group or rapper could learn A LOT from that display.

Jada’s conviction was actually inspiring. Step right to the edge of the stage, clutch the mic, fire away.

Lox wore less clothing, fewer chains, moved around not nearly as much and blew them out of the water. Music and professionalism won. Great night for NY hip hop.

Pretty much sums it up. Jada had an answer and pivot for whatever Cam and crew put together. Juelz looked washed at the beginning. Juelz is probably one of the biggest waste of charisma.

but at first seeing him in the same DUMB jacket and bandana bullshit he was in like 15 years ago I was like "eww"

>Lox were thoroughly prepared. They’d clearly mapped out
>their set expertly - from classic mixtape freestyles to
>anthems - and no song overstayed it’s welcome. Their DJ is a
>pro, All instrumentals. An up ans coming group or rapper could
>learn A LOT from that display.
>
>Jada’s conviction was actually inspiring. Step right to the
>edge of the stage, clutch the mic, fire away.
>
> Lox wore less clothing, fewer chains, moved around not nearly
>as much and blew them out of the water. Music and
>professionalism won. Great night for NY hip hop.

the too cool for school bullshit to the grave.
Juelz looked like an absolute clown up there. He has an opportunity to change his life around but look at him. No accountability, whatever happens happens.

If they were at a studio playing tracks, it would have been a lot closer. Dipset may have been able to pull off a win with the right sequencing.

But live?

The Lox set the tone with Fuck You, the crowd reacted and it was a wrap from there. Dipset did not have a stage show to match and after Jada called them out for doing karaoke, there was little Cam and crew could do regardless of what their song selection was. Dipset would have needed some SDE, Pull It, Horse & Carriage era Cam to start to pull out the whole and they didn't/couldn't.

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I don’t think Jada ever responded after getting called out? It would interesting to see how well he does against a skilled MC …

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A year o two ago, when Jada stated that he would battle anybody and Casual responded…

https://boxden.com/showthread.php?t=2821372

He’s trying to gain a younger audience

Drake always has and always will sell more records than Pusha, yet he got in the ring (briefly)

When did battling become a cost/benefit analysis?

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Whoo, that was a bloodbath.

Jada washed them all up for dolo. Literally smacked their kufis off in front of thousands.

While the Lox were looking spry and energized, Dipset was looking leaned out and depleted. Jim Jones fell off the damn stage.

I can't believe people used to spam the Board for those clowns.

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Jada and Styles killed it (Sheek did too actually- they put on a show). Lox shit just sounds dated and all that drip looked corny when you either dyeing your beard or letting it get all gray.

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The thing that stood out the most to me, by far, is a little over the halfway point, Dipset kept saying "that was cute" or "that song was wack!", or worse, "you're panicking!".

In any contest- a discussion, a debate, a battle, whatever, when people start going at the person and not the content, it's a wrap.

You know that they know that they've lost. ,

And Dipset knew they'd lost.

Because Jada washed them for coming out like some local nobody opening for a big dog, just rapping over the recorded song.

I hate going to a show and the openers pull that corny shit.

Dipset did that, and Jada didn't let it slide. He put that fuck shit out front.

That was bad enough.

But He showed why he's in that God MC tier. If you didn't know, he let you know. If you forgot, he reminded you.

If you've been sleeping? He woke you the fuck up.

The performance, the presence, all that shit was on point. But then he had the bars to ice it.

Which, by itself, exposed the problem with Dipset's whole approach: You could barely udnerstand what the fuck they were saying. If you don't know their lyrics, you don't know what the fuck they're talking about until their round ends, and they start trying to counter Jada's clear, simple message that what Dipset was doing was amateur hour.

I think those old Swizz joints are largely trash, and thought so at the time, and they've aged even worse. The Lox's sound is too riddled with that old Swizz sound for my liking.

But I still go back to it, because they're all nice with it. Jada especially.

And they killed it here because they're pros, even on those joints. And Jada talking down like the older head in the room? That shit was the nail. Pipe down, youngin.

Dipset had all the bravado. All the loud, over the top theatrics.

Jada just controlled the situation by being the grown man in the room, showing them how to do shit the right way.

And that's not a slight to P and Louch. I'm a Lox fan. But Jada was the clear cut superstar in this whole event, and the 2 and 3 were P and Louch.

Shit, Louch just walking around, all big and menacing was enough. no ra-ra shit. Just his presence was enough.

Pick your battle cliche. Bodied. Washed. Landslide. Whatever. That's what this was.

But more than that? Class was in session.

I ain't gonna lie

I love LOX but mainly Styles P

I was hoping Cam and them would come with the fire..Juelz 1st album..the double CD..Purple Haze..that shit

..but they didn't. Lol.

I still never understood why people thought putting Dipset against The Lox was a good pairing or verses cause we're talking about The Lox, they been thru the ringer with Puff for years, perfected their craft at rapping, showmanship, and having a string of hits to street joints that make them a formidable group to go against.

Personally, I've never been a fan of Dipset but I've liked Cam'Ron music, maybe going against State Property would've been a better battle but to me even State Property would win with just Freeway, Beanie, & one or two joints from Young Gunz.

I agree with what one poster said, Jadakiss treated Dipset like children and was bossing them around like a father or uncle; I liked the part when Jada was like "c'mon mayne, what am I doin' here, I could be at home watching "so & so tv show", ha ha ha ha ha; to him it was just another show for his NYC people and Dipset was the unsigned opening act, lol.

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They would've put up a better fight. They handicapped themselves with that chair.

Disappointed Juelz didnt bring out more of his catalog. 40 Cal, JR, and Hell Rell were in the crowd yet weren't used. Really disappointed in them. Kiss didnt even play Why. Don't even get me started on the made you look tease.

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That was the worst.

...yes sir, and before that, they were the same ones wearing G-Unit shirts...

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Some of the most try hard shit I ever saw.

What a massacre.

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LOX was on they neck from the go

Jada just in a class by himself

Ain't too many active rappers with that kinda presence on the stage

No pyrotechnics and holograms

No hypeman with crackhead energy (yo fukin zeeky was getting on my gotdamb nerves)

Just masterful

Sheek and Stylez held they own but the way Jada came out there and set the tone was *chefs kiss*




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Lox vs Def Squad would have been more interesting…

Braveheartz might of beat them out, I'd take Jungle, G-Wiz and Horse I think. lol

is Cam'ron typically a bad concert performer? I ask because when he's on, he a top tier lyricist in terms of his studio material. I'm mainly curious if Cam'ron looking so out of his element performing live is fairly normal based off the past.

I'm not going to ask about Jim Jones or Juelz Santana out of complete ambivalence.

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