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mrhood75
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"Holy fuck. Did the Grammy’s just not fuck up Rap album of year?"


  

          

Nominees include:

Gibbs and Alc - Alfredo
Jay Electronica - A Written Testimony
Nas - Kings Disease
Royce - The Allegory
D Smoke - Black Habits

Like, the actually a respectable list. It includes my likely album of the year and three others that will probably end up in my top 10 to 20. Haven’t heard D Smoke, but I’ve heard decent things about it.

The Rap songs of the year are a total mess tho.

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Was gonna make this same exact post earlier
Nov 24th 2020
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Nas deserves it
Nov 24th 2020
3
Oh wow.
Nov 25th 2020
6
I'd say D Smoke deserves it.
Nov 24th 2020
2
Listening now, off the strength of them doing well with the other 4
Nov 24th 2020
4
My personal favorite of the group
Nov 24th 2020
5
Bro talent level is off the charts
Nov 25th 2020
16
I couldn't make it through
Nov 25th 2020
8
Lol, I won’t lie - “diet Kendrick” was the EXACT phrase in my head...
Nov 25th 2020
9
I'm a huge Kendrick fan
Nov 25th 2020
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As soon as he started rhyming I said “this sounds like Kendrick”
Nov 25th 2020
12
Listened to it. Thought it was pretty good
Nov 26th 2020
21
      Word. Dude is a very thoughtful songwriter.
Nov 27th 2020
23
lol they still fucked up.. That Nas album is awful.
Nov 25th 2020
7
I hope they give Nas his moment
Nov 25th 2020
10
he'll get it... but it will be to make up for shafting him in the early ...
Nov 25th 2020
13
      his Scent Of A Woman
Nov 25th 2020
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I'm with you on this
Nov 26th 2020
19
The trappers are saying Lil' Baby got snubbed.
Nov 25th 2020
15
Conway and Run the Jewels are far better than D Smoke's album.
Nov 25th 2020
17
Conway had the best album IMO
Nov 25th 2020
18
There's a gang of albums
Nov 26th 2020
20
It's a shame that Busta missed the cutoff
Nov 27th 2020
22
RTJ4 & 7Xdown8Xup are my favorite 2020 ‘rap’ albums
Nov 29th 2020
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RE: RTJ4 & 7Xdown8Xup are my favorite 2020 ‘rap’ albums
Nov 29th 2020
25
No Em. No mumble rap. No stupid Gen Z shit
Nov 29th 2020
26
      Some people just ain’t never gonna stop bitchin’
Nov 29th 2020
27
           About the Grammys...MFin right
Nov 30th 2020
29
                Who gives a fuck about a Grammy?
Nov 30th 2020
30
All great albums. Nas was my favorite of that bunch
Nov 30th 2020
28
the picks arent bad
Dec 02nd 2020
31
I know I'm in the minority around here but
Dec 03rd 2020
32
but em did drop one
Dec 03rd 2020
33
      He did? Hahaha oops
Dec 03rd 2020
34

Oak27
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1. "Was gonna make this same exact post earlier"
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But I didn't want it to look like I give a fuck about rap's representation at the Grammy's haha

This has to be the least mainstream set of albums nominated for rap AOTY ever. Prob partially due to COVID stopping a lot of the bigger acts from dropping this year since they can't tour anything (Drake, Kendrick, Cole to name a few) but hey, maybe it's a step in the right direction.

I'd rank em:
Alfredo
King's Disease
Black Habits
The Allegory
A Written Testimony

In other news, I *just* realized Alfredo = Al(chemist) + Fred(die Gibbs).

So I got that going for me.

Which is nice.

  

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3. "Nas deserves it"
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6. "Oh wow."
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>In other news, I *just* realized Alfredo = Al(chemist) +
>Fred(die Gibbs).

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2. "I'd say D Smoke deserves it."
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4. "Listening now, off the strength of them doing well with the other 4"
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I’m liking it so far. Glad to be put on. If the other nominees were trash, I would’ve never checked this out.

  

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5. "My personal favorite of the group"
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I should revisit the Royce album though. I was put off by the antivaxx bars.

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16. "Bro talent level is off the charts"
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I like how hands on he is with production, plays multiple instruments and then the Tiny Desk joint on top of the Rhythm+Flow journey and finale pretty much made me a lifetime fan. The sincerity really helps. Dude's not just talking but really working with the youth in one of the most impactful ways possible. Can't do nothin but respect it.

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8. "I couldn't make it through"
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I can't get past him sounding like Diet Kendrick. I just can't, its too distracting.

  

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9. "Lol, I won’t lie - “diet Kendrick” was the EXACT phrase in my head..."
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as I was listening. But I like Kendrick. And I like this. But yeah, he sounds a lot like him.

  

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11. "I'm a huge Kendrick fan"
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So it isn't a knock at the style at all.

I just have a hard time when rappers sound like other rappers and seem to be okay with it. See my many rants about YOD and AB. On that note, if D Smoke was white he'd be way bigger than he is and absolutely beloved by a few around here...but I'm off the subject.

And like those two, I feel D sort of leaned into it. I could be wrong, but it sounds like it. Like, there's no way he released Black Habits not knowing who and what it would be compared to.

I want to like it, because people I respect like it a lot. But I've tried multiple times and can't get through it. Too distracting.

That isn't to say I've written him off.

  

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12. "As soon as he started rhyming I said “this sounds like Kendrick”"
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It doesn’t make it bad but just makes it second rate.

It’s hard to get around that shit.

My boy told me to check out Kota and he just reminded me so much if Drake I couldn’t even listen.

  

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21. "Listened to it. Thought it was pretty good"
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Certainly don't have a problem with it getting a nomination.

I definitely got some GKMC vibes from it, but I chalk that up to TDE affiliation. Regardless, D Smoke is pretty talented lyricist and it was a very interesting album.

And as said above, seeing it get nominated definitely inspired me to listen it. So, that's good.

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23. "Word. Dude is a very thoughtful songwriter."
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>I definitely got some GKMC vibes from it, but I chalk that up
>to TDE affiliation. Regardless, D Smoke is pretty talented
>lyricist and it was a very interesting album.


That's wassup. I can't really address folks who lament over his voice sounding like Kendrick but then have no comment on the actual content of his songs. That's exactly why I don't think he sounds like Kendrick. I'm a Kendrick fan myself, and I honestly think D Smoke sounds... more intelligent than Kendrick. They're two thoughtful lyricists who sometimes have a similar cadence, but after listening to Black Habits and his previous projects, Kendrick actually sounds like the little brother between the two. Just my take tho. *shrugs*

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7. "lol they still fucked up.. That Nas album is awful."
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10. "I hope they give Nas his moment"
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He should’ve won Grammies a long time ago. So I’m rooting for him.

But Alfredo is the best album of these, IMO.

I don’t think Nas’ album is awful though.

  

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13. "he'll get it... but it will be to make up for shafting him in the early ..."
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14. "his Scent Of A Woman"
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19. "I'm with you on this"
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Still kinda confused by how the Nas and Benny albums were produced by the same guy

  

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15. "The trappers are saying Lil' Baby got snubbed."
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Like, "Aww, this your first time having an artist you like not to get nominated for a Grammy? That's so cute."

On this list, I'd like to see Gibbs get it. I hope to one day see Big Boi get one solo. I feel like his first 2 were definitely worthy of nomination, if not winning.

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17. "Conway and Run the Jewels are far better than D Smoke's album."
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...but still there's more positive than negative from the Grammy's this year IMO. It's never gonna be perfect, but it's better than recent years.

My favorite thing over the last couple days has been people complaining about no noms for people like Roddy Rich or Lil' Baby...and at least whoever is on the committee is trying to go more in the lane of sales doesn't = best.

Weeknd has some solid grips tho.

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18. "Conway had the best album IMO"
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I was initially thinking Benny’s might be better, but after some time it’s Conways I go back to the most.

Was glad not to see any of that bullshit nominated though.

  

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20. "There's a gang of albums"
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that came out this year that deserve to be on this list over these picks, excluding Alfredo

  

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22. "It's a shame that Busta missed the cutoff"
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24. "RTJ4 & 7Xdown8Xup are my favorite 2020 ‘rap’ albums"
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Not sure what all the congratulations for the academy is all about

Alfredo is an album I go back to...so they got 1 right...I guess

Jay E’s album only got nominated because Jay Z is on it
He’s like the Grammy’s rap version of the beatles or Dylan
If he releases a project it gets nominated.
That album wasn’t great.

Neither was Nas’s album

Would rather other artists get some placement with a nom

Ima check D Smoke off the strength of some of the suggestions in here

Otherwise, these noms aren’t really moving the needle IRT the grammy’s knowing authentic quality rap music

...but at least they didn’t nominate Em...that is progress.

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25. "RE: RTJ4 & 7Xdown8Xup are my favorite 2020 ‘rap’ albums"
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Well said...

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26. "No Em. No mumble rap. No stupid Gen Z shit"
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5 rappers that can actually rap that made respectable albums, whether they’re your favorites or not.

  

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27. "Some people just ain’t never gonna stop bitchin’"
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29. "About the Grammys...MFin right"
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They get it right every once in awhile when there’s an undeniable piece of art...like Kast’s Ws and Kenny’s

Otherwise...it’s a popularity contest, if we’re being honest

They want ratings, not acknowledgement of quality art.

I didn’t realize how these award shows work until I lived in LA

These artists, labels, etc...put together campaigns just in order to be nominated

It’s not industry folks debating what is the best x,y, z

It’s marketing and politics

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30. "Who gives a fuck about a Grammy?"
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28. "All great albums. Nas was my favorite of that bunch"
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wish RTJ4 got nominated.

  

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31. "the picks arent bad"
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to me the d smoke isnt on the same level and the jay elec is a bit of a stretch as well. there are definitely some albums i think deserved the nomination more than some of these but overall im not mad at it.

pretty surprised to see royce on there, probably my fav of the 5.

i definitely think nas is going to win it.

im guessing adding that melodic rap category helped remove some of those mainstream albums people would complain about getting nominated as rap.

  

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32. "I know I'm in the minority around here but"
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that Jay Elect album is by far the best album here.

It isn't his best album this year, and probably isn't in my top ten but its definitely the best release here.

I revisited Nas...half great half terrible.

I revisited Gibbs...that shit is boring. Its not even a top 5 Gibbs release. Alc is nice but crazy over-rated. This shit is flat as hell.

I've tried Royce and D-smoke a few times...can't do either.


Jay E is easily the winner here to me.

*shrugs*


And the more I thought about it, this list is probably more legit simply because the usual suspects didn't release anything this year. They can't force an Eminem album on us if he doesn't drop something, for instance.

  

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33. "but em did drop one"
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>And the more I thought about it, this list is probably more
>legit simply because the usual suspects didn't release
>anything this year. They can't force an Eminem album on us if
>he doesn't drop something, for instance.
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i do think you have a point though. there werent many big releases.

the jay elec gets more hate than it deserves. my ranking for these would be

royce

nas/jay e/fredo



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34. "He did? Hahaha oops "
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I would have bet money he didn’t haha

As far as the Jay album hate...

I honestly don’t get it. Both jays are spitting.

The last 3 tracks alone make it worth it so to speak.

I legit don’t get the complaints.

Again, I’m not saying it’s ground breaking or in
my top 5 or even 10 this year...but the hate makes
no sense.

Other than people being salty it wasn’t act 2.

Even then, we got act 2 so ...?

I wonder if act 2 had come out first if AWT would
have been better received.

  

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