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mista k5
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"Rappers that Produce"


  

          

Is it just me or does it seem like all rappers are producers now too? This used to be a rare thing no? Is the definition of producing more relaxed now? Are more rappers producing? Am I just tripping?

  

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Makes sense considering a number of trends
Nov 20th 2020
1
And artists no longer dependent on someone else for beats.
Nov 22nd 2020
14
My Top 10 Rappers/Producers
Nov 20th 2020
2
I gotta have Erick Sermon in nine
Nov 20th 2020
4
DAMN. you right
Nov 20th 2020
6
we have the same top 10, more or less
Nov 20th 2020
8
Curren$y doesn't make beats
Nov 21st 2020
10
I'm Surprised You Have Havoc As A Honorable Mention
Nov 27th 2020
24
need specifics. I feel like it's the opposite
Nov 20th 2020
3
just going off a few of those I really follow...
Nov 20th 2020
5
I dig Von's production a lot.
Nov 20th 2020
7
      Yeah, same
Nov 21st 2020
12
           I actually thought Donwill might be more the reason for this post
Nov 24th 2020
17
Roc Marciano was kind of the trigger for the post
Nov 21st 2020
9
      back in the day, I never knew Scarface could make beats
Nov 21st 2020
11
      Hiero members have been doing this for a while now as well.
Nov 24th 2020
16
It's due to accessibility to the means needed to produce.
Nov 22nd 2020
13
outkast. together and separately.
Nov 23rd 2020
15
shoutout to Earthtone III
Nov 24th 2020
18
      lol. I don't even remember what he looks like
Nov 26th 2020
22
Big K.R.I.T. is my favorite rapper/producer, currently.
Nov 25th 2020
19
KRIT is definitely one of my favorites
Nov 25th 2020
20
I feel like he should be more popular.
Nov 26th 2020
23
Aesop Rock
Nov 25th 2020
21
J-Zone
Nov 30th 2020
25
Not one mention of the RZA? FOH
Nov 30th 2020
26
Maybe Cause Most See RZA As A Producer Who Raps Instead
Nov 30th 2020
27
RE: Rappers that Produce
Dec 01st 2020
28

stylez dainty
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1. "Makes sense considering a number of trends"
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-more accessible technology
-less money to go around
-less major label gatekeeping
-more home recording

And here is just my opinion: right now, in a post-sampling world, beats don't have to be as unexpected or quirky. Even artists with really big budgets seem to gravitate towards beats that are very professional sounding but operate on a pretty basic level. From Black Thought to Cardi B, there just aren't a lot of beats where they throw you some cool little curveball. The little strangely compelling moments that the sampling era seemed to prize are in short supply. The exception are the rappers who really seem to be embracing the experimental electronic stuff, like say, Norf Norf.

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Shaun Tha Don
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14. "And artists no longer dependent on someone else for beats. "
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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LeroyBumpkin
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2. "My Top 10 Rappers/Producers"
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01 Q-Tip
02 DJ Quik
03 Jay Dee
04 Kanye West
05 Dat Nigga Daz
06 Large Professor
07 Oddisee
08 Black Milk
09 MF DOOM
10 Diamond D

HONORABLE MENTION

Havoc
Curren$y
Lord Finesse
Quelle Chris
Rashid Hadee

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DJR
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4. "I gotta have Erick Sermon in nine "
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And Big KRIT would be up high too. But our top 10s would look similar.

  

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LeroyBumpkin
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6. "DAMN. you right"
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I knew I forgot somebody.

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hammam
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8. "we have the same top 10, more or less"
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Fri Nov-20-20 11:44 PM by hammam

          

on my list, i replace daz/large professor/black milk with dr. dre/erick sermon/pimp c/

  

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daskap
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10. "Curren$y doesn't make beats"
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Dj Joey Joe
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24. "I'm Surprised You Have Havoc As A Honorable Mention"
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Havoc is probably should be the number one rapper who has proven to be qualified in both fields (rapping and producing), and like others said above Erick Sermon as well.

While I will say it is others who are better producers than rappers but some people on that list, Havoc's output of produced joints and spat some dope verses than most but usually gets overlooked cause of Prodigy but he usually goes toe to toe lyrically with Prodigy.


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CherNic
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3. "need specifics. I feel like it's the opposite"
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I also don't know a lot of 'new' rappers so I could be off base

  

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DJR
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5. "just going off a few of those I really follow..."
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Von Pea makes beats. Chaundon makes beats now.

Royce Da 5’9 made a lot of the beats on his most recent album.

  

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LeroyBumpkin
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7. "I dig Von's production a lot."
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Like I can tell he's heavily influenced by Prince Paul and De La
just based on how he uses samples and constructs his albums.

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DJR
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12. "Yeah, same"
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For some reason Von and Tanya Morgan fell off my radar for much of the 10s and I don’t know why. His City for Sale album last fall got me back into them - both revisiting their old stuff that I used to listen to a lot, and checking out their stuff I’d never heard. Von and TM have really got a very good catalogue.

  

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upUPNorth
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17. "I actually thought Donwill might be more the reason for this post"
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him and Che Grand started making their own beats recently as well. But I've always been a big fan of Von/The Beatmaker alias.

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mista k5
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9. "Roc Marciano was kind of the trigger for the post"
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Kota the Friend

This article is actually about it. Kind of makes some sense of it.

https://centralsauce.com/dual-discipline-artists-rap-produce

It lists:
Tyler the Creator
Childish Gambino
Janelle Monae
J Cole
Big Krit
Kid Cudi
Earl Sweatshirt
Travis Scott
Logic
Mac Miller

Now all of those aren't strictly rappers and some only started producing after they had been rapping but I think the point stands.

The article points out its more that in the late 90s there was a shift away from rappers producing their own music than this being a completely new thing.

Thats the other side, it feels like recently we are hearing about older rappers actually having produced their own songs when most people probably thought someone else produced them. Rakim and all members of De La Soul being some examples.

  

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DJR
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11. "back in the day, I never knew Scarface could make beats"
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And not only that, but played multiple instruments too.

Don’t think I even realized he did “Candy” for UGK on their double album, until a few years later.

  

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16. "Hiero members have been doing this for a while now as well."
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I wish they did more works outside of their own circle because they have done some pretty nice beats, especially considering they are well above average rappers.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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Shaun Tha Don
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13. "It's due to accessibility to the means needed to produce. "
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The average person no longer has to spend a fortune for it.

Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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15. "outkast. together and separately."
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Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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18. "shoutout to Earthtone III"
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I saw Mr DJ in the park one year and had a whole fangirl moment smh

  

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22. "lol. I don't even remember what he looks like"
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I saw 3k in the parking lot a whole foods on ponce. some white dude was talking his ear off. I could see that Dre was being nice and listening to somebody trying to get put on. lol.

I gave a head nod. he gave one back.

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19. "Big K.R.I.T. is my favorite rapper/producer, currently."
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Especially in the rise of Kanye's craziness. And I like that he learned to take a slight back seat and share the production so he wouldn't burn out trying to produce whole albums solo-dolo.

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20. "KRIT is definitely one of my favorites "
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He might have the catalogue I mess with the most, from 2010-present. Krit Wuz Here, Return of 4Eva, 4EvaNaDay, and the Double album are all classic projects to me.

  

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23. "I feel like he should be more popular. "
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his beats bang. he raps well. got several flows. that drinking sessions song....the beat and piano, along with his rapping and the topic.

agreed about him using other producers on KRIT iz here. added some other layers to his music.

anyway, good mention. he's dope.

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21. "Aesop Rock"
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25. "J-Zone"
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Old Maid Billionaires shit was fire. Funny and different, too.

His track "Inauguration Day" was a fucking classic.

  

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26. "Not one mention of the RZA? FOH"
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27. "Maybe Cause Most See RZA As A Producer Who Raps Instead"
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IDK


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28. "RE: Rappers that Produce"
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Tue Dec-01-20 03:46 AM by allStah

          

Lord Quas
Lord Finesse
RZA ( started off as a MC ,plus Bobby Digital)
Qtip
Extra P
Dilla
Doom
Roc Marciano
Diamond D
Eminem
Dr.Dre
Eric Sermon
Shock G
Pete Rock
Ced Gee
Daddy-O


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