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Buddy_Gilapagos
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"Name an artist who could really use a good strong Producer/EP"


  

          

And when I say good a strong Producer/EP, I mean an artist who is super talented but needs someone to tell them "this song is trash, you should try again" or "your album is 4 songs too long" or any of the other hard to hear feedback that super talented artist need to hear from time to time.

I'll start with Nas.


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Ha came to say Nas. He will prolly dominate this post.
Oct 16th 2020
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Really thought Hit boy was going to be that producer.
Oct 16th 2020
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RE: Ha came to say Nas. He will prolly dominate this post.
Oct 16th 2020
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KRS-ONE
Oct 16th 2020
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RE: KRS-ONE
Oct 16th 2020
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Jadakiss
Oct 16th 2020
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RE: Jadakiss
Oct 16th 2020
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YES
Oct 23rd 2020
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RE: Name an artist who could really use a good strong Producer/EP
Oct 16th 2020
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Busta
Oct 16th 2020
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^^This right here
Oct 17th 2020
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I Remember Reading That Busta Was Going To Do A Vol.2 To Dillagence
Oct 18th 2020
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guy has about 80 Kev Brown songs he won't put out
Oct 20th 2020
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Masta Ace & Marco Polo working on album #2...
Oct 16th 2020
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Fabolous
Oct 17th 2020
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IMO....he did on all 3 Soul Tapes
Oct 23rd 2020
28
On the producer tip, Just Blaze.
Oct 17th 2020
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I feel like Jay Elect left him with baggage in that respect
Oct 23rd 2020
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AZ
Oct 17th 2020
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Thank you
Oct 24th 2020
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      Rather Unique and Gimme Yours are 2 of the greatest
Oct 24th 2020
31
Prince
Oct 17th 2020
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Prince 100% needed someone who could tell him "naw, that aint it"
Oct 23rd 2020
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my list
Oct 17th 2020
16
great lists!
Oct 17th 2020
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NO NO NO
Oct 17th 2020
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I just have to remind people that Acid Rap was an incredible album.
Oct 23rd 2020
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Planet Asia & Madlib happened.
Oct 18th 2020
22
LL Cool J
Oct 17th 2020
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He is a legend, but his career isn't more than the sum of its parts
Oct 24th 2020
32
Eminem
Oct 18th 2020
21
Wish I could hear Wise Intelligent with Madlib
Oct 24th 2020
29

Brew
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1. "Ha came to say Nas. He will prolly dominate this post."
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2. "Really thought Hit boy was going to be that producer. "
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I should have also mentioned T.I.


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4. "RE: Ha came to say Nas. He will prolly dominate this post."
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Truth! Also J-Live, but neither seem to get it....

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3. "KRS-ONE"
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Also Eminem

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5. "RE: KRS-ONE"
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KRS for sure...rumor is, he don't like to pay $$$...shame, a lot of producers I am sure would love to work with him...

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6. "Jadakiss"
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For someone who i consider one of my favorite rappers ever, i can't think of a solo project/mixtape he's put out that i would consider GREAT (the closest is maybe the champ is back mixtape) and i know he's possible of putting one out.

  

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7. "RE: Jadakiss"
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More truth!..could make an argument for him being a top 20 MC, but just doesn't have that great LP.

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27. "YES"
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>For someone who i consider one of my favorite rappers ever, i
>can't think of a solo project/mixtape he's put out that i
>would consider GREAT (the closest is maybe the champ is back
>mixtape) and i know he's possible of putting one out.

I just don't know if he would ever sack up and do it.

  

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8. "RE: Name an artist who could really use a good strong Producer/EP"
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Mos Def aka Yasiin Bey...

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9. "Busta "
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Hoping that this new one album will be it (am only hearing good hype about it) but gotta wait and see

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11. "^^This right here"
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Give me Nottz and DJ Scratch for the bulk of the album, and maybe a track each from Skateboard P, a fire, unreleased Dilla, and a long awaited PRhyme-level Preemo track and success

Maybe an Extra P track if I'm being greedy...

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20. "I Remember Reading That Busta Was Going To Do A Vol.2 To Dillagence"
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...but after having so much trouble with WEA & Sony over releasing these songs for free even though it was songs that were paid for by the label and Busta has already re-cooped the money and he now owns all the unreleased songs he has recorded for both labels, and the old manager for Ma Dukes trying to get royalty money from Busta, he said he decided to just not do a second "Dillagence" to avoid anymore legal hassle.

And when people asked him to make new songs over some J-Dilla beats, he said it isn't anymore undiscovered beats to rhyme to that he wants to rhyme to; personally I wouldn't mind hearing Busta Rhymes over some Dj Spinna, Nottz, & Kev Brown beats, him and Scratch did do an entire album together "I Bullshit You Not" ( https://www.datpiff.com/Busta-Rhymes-I-Bullshit-You-Not-mixtape.44608.html ) but it wasn't as good as I thought it would sound but it's worth listening to.


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23. "guy has about 80 Kev Brown songs he won't put out"
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that's frustrating as hell to me especially how he keeps rapping over all this shiny shit on each project

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10. "Masta Ace & Marco Polo working on album #2..."
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12. "Fabolous"
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If he could stay in one zone Fab would make something really good.

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28. "IMO....he did on all 3 Soul Tapes"
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I don’t care what you call them....those are albums IMO. Especially the 2nd and 3rd ones. And they’re great.

  

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13. "On the producer tip, Just Blaze."
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I know he's been burned by doing the grand albums....but I'd bet if he locked in with a rapper (like Game,Freeway, hell even Young Chris) for like a week like the old 9th Wonder albums were that shit would be great.

Then just drop it without all the label bullshit or the artist disappearing off the face of the earth.

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26. "I feel like Jay Elect left him with baggage in that respect"
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Fri Oct-23-20 04:28 PM by nativesun07

  

          

I still feel like theres a short ep worth of material from the exhibit c era....Like A and B

Prayer For TI and Mike
Jazzmataz
Departure
Swagger Jacksons Revenge

I know Just aint part of all that, but I think they got stuff and things

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14. "AZ"
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I just want him to lock in with Pete Rock for 12 tracks.

  

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30. "Thank you"
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>I just want him to lock in with Pete Rock for 12 tracks.

  

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31. "Rather Unique and Gimme Yours are 2 of the greatest"
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15. "Prince"
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prior to 88 I would say no but 90's and 00's Prince could have used some help at trimming crap off albums, releasing an album every other year would have helped I think, no bloated triple albums, just put out the best songs and he could have maybe had a few more classics.

  

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24. "Prince 100% needed someone who could tell him "naw, that aint it""
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I use to say 15 but I think he would have been to big of a fan to stop him at this point.

I wish the neptunes got to hang out at paisley park for like a month and got to go through his vault and Prince would take some direction from them in the studio.

Prince's discography was almost complete EXCEPT he was due a Santana like come back album produced by some producers with ears for the radio.


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16. "my list"
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GZA & Alchemist
Chance & Pete Rock
Devin & DJ Quik
Planet Asia & Madlib
King Tee and Premo
ASAP Rocky & Tyler
Lupe & Madlib
Aesop Rock & Roc Marciano
Common & MF DOOM

  

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18. "great lists!"
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19. "NO NO NO"
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>Chance & Pete Rock

Chance is a fucking terrible rapper.

After I just mentioned AZ w PR?

  

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25. "I just have to remind people that Acid Rap was an incredible album. "
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Coloring Book was solid but dude decided to go Youth Minister route and it hurt because I expected big things from him.


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22. "Planet Asia & Madlib happened."
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>Planet Asia & Madlib

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17. "LL Cool J"
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He’s a legend, but even in his prime there were just some flat out bad ideas.

And there’s no reason his overall output post 2000 is so bad.

  

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32. "He is a legend, but his career isn't more than the sum of its parts"
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He has some amazing records. Radio, Bigger and Deffer, Mama Said Knock You Out, even Mr. Smith and Phenomenon were great.

But he has some real duds mixed in there, especially after Phenomenon.

It's odd because he's probably going to be remembered more as an actor than as a very, very important figure in the legitimization of hip hop. But he hasn't made a hit record in 20 years. It's hard to be considered great in a field if you aren't making great music.

There doesn't seem to be a comp for him. Maybe Snoop? But his early career wasn't as consistently great as LL's even though Snoop usually bubbles up with a hot single every four to five years.

Mr. Smith seemed to be the last time he worked primarily with one producer, it also was one of his better records. You'd think one hot producer would have been in his ear to convince LL to make an album with him.

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21. "Eminem"
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For years I've never really liked any of his albums, they were always full of crappy ass production or songs that just wasn't lyrically that good to begin with.

When the "God Son" & "Black Album" accappellas caused bootleg remix albums craze, I came up with an idea that many overlooked was to take all of Em's 12" singles which all contained accapellas on them and make a remix album but I never did so but I also never told anyone that maybe they could really get noticed if they did it cause Em still didn't have a greatest hits out either; I'm still surprised nobody has thought of this yet?

Eminem would sound dope over the right production, I say on every one of his albums it's always that one dope song but it's hard to even get three to five good songs off each one of his albums that I would even want to bump in the car though.


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29. "Wish I could hear Wise Intelligent with Madlib"
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The joint with Gensu Dean was cool, but something with Madlib could be even better.

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