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LeroyBumpkin
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"So Off The Wall is considered a Boogie record, right?"


  

          

What is Boogie?
Is it just Disco Funk?

I feel like I know what it is, but I'm looking for a more nuanced discussion on it because
and I'm kinda low key obsessed with it.
I'm looking for suggestions and recommendations.
Old and new.

SO IF I LIKE THESE...

Michael Jackson, Off The Wall (1979)
Shalamar, Big Fun (1979)
Anything SOLAR & Leon Sylvers III
The Whispers, The Whispers (1979)
Sweet Thing, Convertion (1980)
Kashif, Kashif (1983)
Tease, Tease (1986)
Dornik, Dornik (2015)
Daebull, Intimate Fonk (2019)
Zo!, SkyBreak (2016)
+ Starlight
+ Just Whatcha Like
Tuxedo, Tuxedo (2015)
Amp Fiddler & Will Sessions, The One (2018)

...WHAT ELSE WOULD I LIKE?

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Snoop Dogg - Bush
Oct 16th 2020
1
I actually had that, but removed it.
Oct 16th 2020
2
maybe Dam Funk?
Oct 16th 2020
3
LOL@"Tin Foil Hatty"
Oct 16th 2020
4
      I had to unfollow Pete Rock on IG....you are SO right
Oct 19th 2020
10
I dont know what qualifies something as Boogie...
Oct 16th 2020
5
...and how about...
Oct 17th 2020
6
      Well, I don't have a definition...
Oct 18th 2020
9
           ahh ok ...
Oct 19th 2020
13
Nah that wasn't me. That was MJ.
Oct 17th 2020
7
something like this?
Oct 17th 2020
8
Leon Ware - Rockin You Eternally
Oct 19th 2020
11
Boogie to me is 1980 - 1984 post-disco that was about inspiring concise
Oct 19th 2020
12
Yes.
Oct 22nd 2020
14
      I call it post-disco because Boogie to me is all about being up-tempo
Oct 22nd 2020
15

BSharp
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1. "Snoop Dogg - Bush"
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LeroyBumpkin
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2. "I actually had that, but removed it."
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I thought it was more Neptunes R&B than boogie funk, but yeah, that fits.

Especially This City which I still run to this day.
The Neptunes hooked Snoop up on that album.
I'd love to know if those beats/songs were meant for someone else and they passed.

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CherNic
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Fri Oct-16-20 09:59 AM

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3. "maybe Dam Funk?"
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I followed him on Twitter until he got a little tin foil hatty lol but he posts a lot of tracks that I think fall in this genre.

  

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Dj Joey Joe
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4. "LOL@"Tin Foil Hatty""
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>I followed him on Twitter until he got a little
>tin foil hatty lol but he posts a lot of tracks
>that I think fall in this genre.

Wow, sometimes I just wonder about artists on twitter, like they be going hard on there, but when it comes to fb it's crickets, Pete Rock is kind of like that on IG, he be repostin' some wild conspiracy videos and then post up some beats.


https://DjJoeyJoe.bandcamp.com/album/Emerald-Dust

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CherNic
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10. "I had to unfollow Pete Rock on IG....you are SO right"
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I vividly remember him posting some Marvin Gaye song he flipped and a lil bit later posting some dude getting snuffed. Like man get that shit outta here

  

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Voodoochilde
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5. "I dont know what qualifies something as Boogie..."
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Fri Oct-16-20 09:36 PM by Voodoochilde

          

...I have know idea what Boogie means genre wise (I'm pretty much mostly genre agnostic) but judging by some of the things on your list "Cameosis" by Cameo was the first thing that popped into my head....oh, and the group 'Foxy'




have you listened to
her stuff?
v

http://www.meshell.com/site/
https://www.facebook.com/officialmeshell?fref=ts
http://www.freemyheart.com


RIP David Williams:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Williams_(guitarist)

  

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Voodoochilde
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6. "...and how about..."
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...Heatwave? would they fit into your definition of Boggie or nah?



have you listened to
her stuff?
v

http://www.meshell.com/site/
https://www.facebook.com/officialmeshell?fref=ts
http://www.freemyheart.com


RIP David Williams:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Williams_(guitarist)

  

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LeroyBumpkin
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9. "Well, I don't have a definition..."
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...so I don't know if they fit.

I personally think Heatwave fits in with the funk bands that came before them.

The sound I think i'm thinking of (ha) is more early 80-84.
More electro pop funk before Prince came and kinda changed it all up.

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Voodoochilde
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13. "ahh ok ..."
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...ok most of the stuff im thinkin about would be before that i guess...like the other two that came to mind were 'firecracker' by mass production & 'firecracker' by yellow magic orchestra....



have you listened to
her stuff?
v

http://www.meshell.com/site/
https://www.facebook.com/officialmeshell?fref=ts
http://www.freemyheart.com


RIP David Williams:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Williams_(guitarist)

  

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Boogie Stimuli
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7. "Nah that wasn't me. That was MJ."
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Sat Oct-17-20 02:07 PM by Boogie Stimuli

          

wukka wukka

Early Midnight Star is worth looking into if you haven't. Most people overlook their first couple of records. Two In Love was a nice joint from that time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLg9_5e6sho
Their career began around the time of most of the records you mentioned before they became major players in the breakdance era.

Also some Con Funk Shun, Spirit of Love album especially.

If I think of some more, I'll share.

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Reeq
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8. "something like this?"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEpqM6Ebd3Y

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Brotha Sun
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11. "Leon Ware - Rockin You Eternally"
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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c71
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12. "Boogie to me is 1980 - 1984 post-disco that was about inspiring concise"
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Dance moves (I guess it has some connection to funk as well)

Stuff like


GAP Band - burn rubber

SKYY - call me

  

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LeroyBumpkin
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14. "Yes. "
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It's definitely post funk, but a more slicked disco.
It's probably closer to R&B.

I know it's hard to nail down the sound cause it's kinda a niche of a niche.

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c71
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15. "I call it post-disco because Boogie to me is all about being up-tempo"
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and dance oriented whereas funk could be slow and not particularly dance oriented (funk came to be like rock or jazz - very broad in scope)

I think some people think mid-tempo stuff like Evelyn "Champagne" King "I'm in love" is boogie, but I just think the up-tempo stuff is boogie (but that one's a close call)

I think "tight" or "rhythmic snap" might be more precise than "inspiring concise dancing" because disco usually has a flowing rhythm (inspiring grand sprawling dancing).

Like dancing to "don't stop till you get enough" is more of a flowing move thing whereas dancing to "workin' day and night" is a more tight/concise thing.

  

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