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"Elzhi - Seven Times Down Eight Times Up - 9/25/2020"


  

          

https://fbdistribution.bandcamp.com/album/seven-times-down-eight-times-up

1.Foolish Intro
2.Smoke & Mirrors ft. Monica Blaire
3.EarlyBird Nightowl
4.Hot Winter Cold Summer
5.Light One Write One
6.Ferndale
7.Grindhouse Double Feature Presents Guns & Boats ft. Fes Roc
8.Grindhouse Double Feature Presents THUGGed Out Zombies
9.Potential
10.G.O.D ft. Monica Blaire
11.Master Class
12.JASON 04:47

Elzhi, the “Syllable Sensei,” is back again with a highly anticipated release titled “Seven Times Down Eight Times Up,” This 12-track LP is a collage of memories and metaphors layered atop beats crafted by up-and-coming producer JR Swiftz. With collabs from Detroit artists, Monica Blaire and Fes Rock on two of the albums stand-out tracks, Elzhi’s new masterpiece showcases his ability to create meaningful concepts while Detroit’s own comedian and “Real Hip Hop Advocate” Foolish provides commentary throughout the album.

As one of Elzhi’s most cohesive releases to date, his wordsmithing abilities paint images of royalty, excellence, and zombies wearing Gucci, all with an underlying message of resilience. “Seven times Down Eight Times Up” is the mantra for a year that has seen lots of “downs,” and reminds us that no matter what we're faced with, we will remain undefeated, and get back up after being knocked down by this machete-wielding maniac we call “life.”
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releases September 25, 2020

  

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RE: Elzhi - Seven Times Down Eight Times Up - 9/25/2020
Sep 02nd 2020
1
ive been wondering when the next project was coming
Sep 02nd 2020
2
      Think Elzhi always does that.
Sep 02nd 2020
3
           yeah lead poison was a mix
Sep 02nd 2020
4
           Agreed. It was disappointing.
Sep 02nd 2020
5
           Lead Poison is criminally underrated
Sep 02nd 2020
11
                i think half of it is excellent
Sep 02nd 2020
12
                Yeah my theory is some hold the funding issue
Sep 02nd 2020
15
                Absolutely
Sep 06th 2020
26
           Elmatic was with Will Sessions.
Sep 02nd 2020
6
                i kind of prefer elmatic over illmatic
Sep 02nd 2020
7
                I have no real reason to listen to Illmatic anymore.
Sep 03rd 2020
21
                Yessss and Sessions did a *TREMENDOUS* job ...
Sep 02nd 2020
8
                     i mostly agree
Sep 02nd 2020
9
                     Yep exactly.
Sep 02nd 2020
10
                     RE: Yessss and Sessions did a *TREMENDOUS* job ...
Sep 21st 2020
36
                          Could not possibly agree more.
Sep 21st 2020
37
JASON single
Sep 02nd 2020
13
Hoping that one ig snippet ends up on here
Sep 02nd 2020
14
Wish it was another one with Khrysis, but this’ll do
Sep 02nd 2020
16
I'll ride for anything Elzhi
Sep 02nd 2020
17
The outro to Jason
Sep 03rd 2020
18
My opinion changed when I heard the whole album
Sep 29th 2020
43
      Yeah it's weird to hear Foolish on an album.
Sep 29th 2020
45
I Can't Wait To Hear The Album
Sep 03rd 2020
19
I had the same thought
Sep 04th 2020
22
AMPED.
Sep 03rd 2020
20
Anything with Monica Blaire is bound to be dope
Sep 04th 2020
23
man i was trying to think of her name a few weeks back
Sep 04th 2020
24
      man, i been crushing on MB since that joint with Zo!
Sep 05th 2020
25
Light One Write One (YouTube link)
Sep 09th 2020
27
dope
Sep 09th 2020
28
RE: Light One Write One (YouTube link)
Sep 09th 2020
29
Love this. Much better than "JASON" IMO.
Sep 09th 2020
30
      oof i think im going to hold off on anymore singles
Sep 09th 2020
31
           Yea I may do the same. I always struggle with that.
Sep 09th 2020
32
Smoke & Mirrors (feat. Monica Blaire)
Sep 16th 2020
33
favorite one of the three
Sep 16th 2020
34
      Agreed
Sep 19th 2020
35
this is awesome
Sep 25th 2020
38
RE: this is awesome
Sep 25th 2020
40
agreed this is crazy good sheesh
Sep 25th 2020
41
Elzhi came through with greatness!
Sep 25th 2020
39
Loving this album! On my first listen now
Sep 29th 2020
42
$hit BANGS
Sep 29th 2020
44

spidey
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1. "RE: Elzhi - Seven Times Down Eight Times Up - 9/25/2020"
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One of the last MC's left doing it...support!

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mista k5
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2. "ive been wondering when the next project was coming"
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im not familiar with the producer but i like that hes working with a single producer. worked well on jericho jackson.

  

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3. "Think Elzhi always does that."
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The Preface was all Black Milk.
Elmatic was all ... somebody.
Jericho Jackson, as you mentioned.
Now this one.

The only album I'm unsure about was the crowdfunded one he released a couple years ago, I don't recall what production credits were. But most of the time he works with just one producer on his albums.

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mista k5
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4. "yeah lead poison was a mix"
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might be his weakest. i have a fond spot for lead poison but its honestly due to some of the songs on it and not really for the whole thing.

listened to it again a couple of months back and its definitely not consistent. also listened to the preface a couple of weeks back and its way better than i remember.

  

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5. "Agreed. It was disappointing."
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But as you touched on, also sort of understandable considering the subject matter and how he was clearly not in his best zone in the making of it.

Hopefully this is more like Jericho Jackson and his prior works.

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11. "Lead Poison is criminally underrated"
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Honestly might be his best to me.


I don't get the lack of love it gets. Its moody and came from a specific time in his life...but it is excellent.

  

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mista k5
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12. "i think half of it is excellent"
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it has some of my favorite songs from him. some that hit me personally. it has some skips though.

i think most of the hate it gets is from the funding issues no?

  

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15. "Yeah my theory is some hold the funding issue"
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Against the album itself.

Like, had he just dropped it out of the blue it would
be more acclaimed.

I think we’ve had this convo before tho haha

I can concede it’s not as consistent as Jericho Jackson,
which I also love, but I guess the highs push it over
the top for me.

Either way, El is one of my all time favs.

  

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26. "Absolutely"
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It's probably one of my favorite rap albums of the last 10 years

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6. "Elmatic was with Will Sessions."
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I also think it’s far and away his best project. Couldn’t have been executed any better.

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mista k5
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7. "i kind of prefer elmatic over illmatic"
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good thing i cant be down voted in here lol

they really did that album as good as it could be done and way better than i could had expected.

might need to throw that one on the turntable tonight. got it in last week.

  

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21. "I have no real reason to listen to Illmatic anymore."
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The shit is burned into my brain fiber. Elmatic was a great tribute, with some deft nods to some of the bars on Illmatic throughout the verses.

Plus you get to hear somebody dope rhyme over the “Genesis” beat on the intro. Crazy energy.

I slept on the first vinyl pressing back in 2010 or whatever. Still gonna need that at some point.

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8. "Yessss and Sessions did a *TREMENDOUS* job ..."
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... reworking those beats. I was so impressed. Their version of "It Ain't Hard to Tell" is better than Nas' IMO. And that's saying something. Sessions fucking cooked that beat, it goes hard as hell.


>I also think it’s far and away his best project. Couldn’t
>have been executed any better.

It was definitely executed very well for like a vanity/gimmicky (IMO) project but I can't call it his best. Because it's the reworking of another artists' project, that just so happens to be one of the most heralded and popular albums of all time.

I understand that he kinda made it his own, but I, personally, still hesitate to even really consider it the same animal as his other solo albums because of the above, no matter how well done it was.

That's prolly just me tho. I'm particular/OCD about that type of stuff.

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9. "i mostly agree"
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i feel like i cant "count" elmatic as part of his catalog when comparing him to other rappers. its kind of like a mixtape type of thing. not really an official album but one that i sure love listening to.

i need to re-listen to jericho jackson but for now i would say the preface is his best solo work.

  

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10. "Yep exactly."
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Wed Sep-02-20 05:02 PM by Brew

          

>i feel like i cant "count" elmatic as part of his catalog
>when comparing him to other rappers. its kind of like a
>mixtape type of thing. not really an official album but one
>that i sure love listening to.
>
>i need to re-listen to jericho jackson but for now i would say
>the preface is his best solo work.

Yes I agree - The Preface tops them all. It's imperfect but it's perfectly his. And Black Milk was still at that early-yet-transitional point of his career where he was still primarily boom bap, and soul sample based but was experimenting with the more abstract sounds that would define his 2010-and-beyond career. So El had an old school yet still interesting backdrop to spit over. And it worked well.

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36. "RE: Yessss and Sessions did a *TREMENDOUS* job ..."
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I agree about Elmatic. It's dope, but I can't rate it the same as the rest.

For me, it's The Preface.

Elzhi should really only be rapping over Black Milk beats IMO.

Talking In My Sleep? Mindblowing.

Motown25?

Shit is nuts.. No disprespect to Sean Price (RIP) or Guilty Simpson (who I both love), but instead of Random Axe, the group BM should have really formed would have consisted of him on the beats and Elzhi and Royce on the raps.

  

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37. "Could not possibly agree more."
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>I agree about Elmatic. It's dope, but I can't rate it the
>same as the rest.
>
>For me, it's The Preface.
>
>Elzhi should really only be rapping over Black Milk beats
>IMO.
>
>Talking In My Sleep? Mindblowing.
>
>Motown25?
>
>Shit is nuts.. No disprespect to Sean Price (RIP) or Guilty
>Simpson (who I both love), but instead of Random Axe, the
>group BM should have really formed would have consisted of him
>on the beats and Elzhi and Royce on the raps.

100% on all of the above. I've been listening to "Motown 25" a lot lately cuz it was apparently just recently put back on Spotify (The Preface is no longer on Spotify but Europass is, which has a few Preface songs including "Motown 25") so I hadn't heard it in a few years. That shit goes hard.

"What I Write" and "Transitional Joint" are two more killer songs from that album.

I need to pull that album back out. Been a while.

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13. "JASON single"
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im digging it. pretty dope production and elzhi delivers like always.

its on streaming and bancamp

https://fbdistribution.bandcamp.com/track/jason-2

  

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14. "Hoping that one ig snippet ends up on here"
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"I am one projected from the heavens as a light beam..."

He posted a bit maybe a year+ ago, and it was produced by Swiftz. I need that track.

  

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16. "Wish it was another one with Khrysis, but this’ll do"
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17. "I'll ride for anything Elzhi"
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The only Elzhi I really haven't heard or got into was that of SV joints. All his "solo's" are great imo... including Lead Poison, which is definitely some winter (february, february )listening... but it goes.... dude is just poetic with it always.


werd.

  

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18. "The outro to Jason"
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If that is the “comedian” who is featured throughout the album on the Jason outro, they could’ve kept him LOL

  

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43. "My opinion changed when I heard the whole album"
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Salute to that guy. He adds real comedic value to the album throughout.

Peace,

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45. "Yeah it's weird to hear Foolish on an album."
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He's been on Detroit hip-hop radio for about 2 decades, just providing some context.

I've never been the biggest fan of him (Foolish is really just being himself thoughtout....as if Elzhi just let him say whatever he wanted after listening to each song, I don't think Foolish got my direction you know?) personally.....but he doesn't ruin the album or anything IMO.

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19. "I Can't Wait To Hear The Album"
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I hope this album is as dope as that one joint "Jason", if it on par with that song, then this album should be dope.

I'm kind of curious as to why "Jason" is the last song on the album though, it seems like that would be somewhere around the first half of the album, I use to hate when artists' lead single would be near the end of an album; anyway that's just my two complaining cents, can't wait to hear the entire project.


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22. "I had the same thought"
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it's dope but it doesn't feel like an album closer

Either way, really looking forward to it

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20. "AMPED."
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_________________

  

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23. "Anything with Monica Blaire is bound to be dope"
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24. "man i was trying to think of her name a few weeks back"
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i think i had downloaded my old pictures from photobucket and going through the ones from shows. had some of her performance and couldnt remember her name.

for some reason the name didnt jump at me in the track listing but as soon i saw youre post it clicked.

  

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25. "man, i been crushing on MB since that joint with Zo!"
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and she's an all-around dope creative spirit, according to her IG

  

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27. "Light One Write One (YouTube link)"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQbgnB9Up5Y

  

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28. "dope"
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29. "RE: Light One Write One (YouTube link)"
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wow...long live the MC...

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30. "Love this. Much better than "JASON" IMO."
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31. "oof i think im going to hold off on anymore singles"
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listened to jason. thought its cool but not awesome. you make me want to check this one out but i think im going to wait for the album.

  

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32. "Yea I may do the same. I always struggle with that."
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Yea re: "JASON" I thought it was ... fine ? But definitely not an album closer, as some have already suggested, and definitely a subpar beat.

Lyrically it's on point, as always. But I was bored with the beat and don't love the tone of it.

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33. "Smoke & Mirrors (feat. Monica Blaire)"
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https://smarturl.it/elzhi-SAM

  

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34. "favorite one of the three"
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>https://smarturl.it/elzhi-SAM

love this beat

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obsidianchrysalis
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35. "Agreed"
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The other two didn't move me. If I hadn't heard Smoke and Mirrors I may have declined to listen to the new album.

<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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mista k5
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38. "this is awesome"
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might be his best album. very cohesive without sounding repetitive. only complaint would be the skits/jokes. theyre not bad enough to bring down the album but they really are not needed. maybe the one after ferndale is needed, the album did need a break at that point but would have been nice if it was a stand alone skit instead of tied to the track. its short enough that its not a big deal.

these beats are dope. elzhi is sharp as always. the first track had him using a different flow/voice. that was interesting. rest of the tracks were standard elzhi, which is great. nice hooks, sometimes his tracks are brought down by hooks but not in this case. even JASON sounds better as a closer.

AOTY contender for me for sure.

  

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thebigfunk
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40. "RE: this is awesome"
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>might be his best album. very cohesive without sounding
>repetitive. only complaint would be the skits/jokes. theyre
>not bad enough to bring down the album but they really are not
>needed. maybe the one after ferndale is needed, the album did
>need a break at that point but would have been nice if it was
>a stand alone skit instead of tied to the track. its short
>enough that its not a big deal.

Especially since Ferndale is a top-tier cut on the album -- I want to throw that on a playlist right away but hate when skits are tied to tracks... same with the skit tacked onto G.O.D.

I liked the album as a whole but felt it was a bit uneven here and there on a first listen. Looking forward to spending more time with it for sure.

-thebigfunk

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41. "agreed this is crazy good sheesh"
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this producer brought it

And El is floating all over this.


Definitely AOTY contender. Good for him.

  

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cidolfas
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39. "Elzhi came through with greatness!"
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Buying this one.

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42. "Loving this album! On my first listen now"
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The dude on the interludes is actually pretty funny over the course of the album, a good counterbalance to the serious topics El is hitting on.

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
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44. "$hit BANGS"
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He sounds like Nas with Lupe rappity rap barz

Beats go...

$100 Yam blunts (c)

Killed.

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