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Always ready for some new Nas.

Hasn’t released an album since 2012!

You heard right...I don’t count that Kanye bullshit...didn’t even listen.

New AZ should be dropping soon as well.

Forgot ALL about that album he did with Kanye.

I liked that album but didn’t really go back to it

Maybe the Kanye album that he did too. If I recall that’s like 20 something minutes long, so it’s a quick listen.

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he couldn't show up on the last Gangstarr album because he wasn't up to par with Guru. LOLOLOL

I know these dudes have investments and other business at this point but damn...

It doesn’t take that long to cut an album when the shit is your job.

He went out to Wyoming and cut a 7 track album with Kanye in a fucking weekend but he can’t cut 14 tracks with Preemo in the past 20 years?!!?

He and AZ can’t cut 14 tracks in the past 20 years?!!?

Shit is just strange as fuck to me.

And the way the market is now, you can drop as much work as you want.

You can drop an album with Hit Boy and Preemo in the same week and give everyone what they want.

both because of Nas' skill as an emcee and the fact that it's only a 16 bar verse at most for the last GangStarr album EVER?

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I mean, I'm gonna listen to it. But Hit Boy does nothing for me.

And like everyone touched on below it's pretty remarkable that this clown can clearly pull together producer/MC albums at will, sometimes in a matter of fucking days but has somehow been unable to get with Preem for even a stray song for damn near 2 decades.

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Nas over some Pete Rock soulful jazz samples = hip-hop at its absolute finest.

It’s like these cats just wont make the shit that makes sense

Lol

Better than fucking Hit Boy at least.

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And Pete has been on fire. That Skyzoo album was great, and the Smoke DZA/Benny The Butcher EP was great. Would love to hear more Pete and Nas.

in even the past 20 years that were perfect for Nas, it's not like they're not still providing great music year in and year out

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I get an MC like Nas and Jay feeling the need to use new producers and stay relevant. That’s how you have a 30 year career.

But on the other hand...it’s really just a win-win. You can do the hit boy album and also do the Preem album to satisfy your base.

Unless they just really are not inspired to write to those beats at this point but I find that hard to believe.

Maybe Nas isn't moved to make art with Pete- no matter how it would sell.

Don't get me wrong, I *wish* he would make a Pete album.


But if we respect these rappers as artists, why do we want them to think like they have to sell units?

I'm not big on Nas these days. But I assume you agree that he is a dope artist to say the least.

I don't know many dope artists who think about what people want when they make their art.

Thats more of the Puffy lane. "How can I get my shit to sell/stream"?

neither of them have to worry about selling anything at this point, plus the costs of recording are a fraction of what they were even ten years ago so there's no real reason to not do it

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That's dope, can't wait for new Nas.

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always ready when the goat drops something

Yes sir...Thought about to drop something soon...

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to the people saying they'll pass on hitboy,
do you only know him for Paris?

Because Benny coming out with a hitboy album too this year.

The man is a versatile producer.

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... none of it.

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I'm not one to really go at people over what they like unless I can get a good laugh LOL

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I had no idea who he was and I thought you meant he produced for Paris the rapper which that didn't sound right at all to me. lmao

Okay, the Kanye/Jay song, got it now. That song was kinda dope to me. Nas my fav rapper so I'll check it out regardless.

is gone are the days where they'd drop a single (maybe two) announce an album and have it get delayed for weeks and even months.

With the exception of Kanye and his bullshit, we seem to hear about an album when a rapper drops a release date, which is as soon as a week away but usually 3-4 weeks away, and when the date comes the album actually drops.

I used to get so disappointed after waiting a few months for an album to drop only for it to be delayed, and usually it would result in my expectations getting higher and higher so much that it would be hard to not be at least a little bit disappointed when the album finally came out.

Now I don't have a long period of time to get excited for an album and can even ignore hearing any singles until the entire thing is released.

I know Nas has been rumored to be dropping something for like the last 5 years. I remember there was a "Nas Album Done" track that DJ Khaled or someone dropped, but the only times we actually got an official album announcement and release date were NASIR and now this.

Lets just hope this is better than NASIR. Although I'm thankful that NASIR came out because otherwise it'd be 8 years of waiting since Life Is Good, an album I LOVED (prob my 3rd favorite Nas album) and that brought me back down to earth a bit on what to expect from a 40+ year old Nas.

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is it that hard to get a few beats from the OGs? dude worth like 70 mills it cant be about money in any way

An album by the two of them would have to be a certified classic, otherwise they would lose face. They're probably aware of this on some level and even could have gone as far as experimenting in a studio.

But they also know that the expectations for an album by the two of them are going to be unmanageable. If the album is simply 'good' it's going to be looked at as a miststep at best or a sign that they've fallen off. They both likely don't want that even though the appetite for the album is large by their fans.

Also, they connected 27 years ago on illmatic and had some great moments around that time. That is a generation ago. They clearly had chemistry then but they're both artists with different demands, different needs, different egos.

As disappointing as it is to accept, the moment has simply passed and the Nas / Premier album is now on the same level of missed opportunity as the Heltah Skelter and Detox albums.

It should have happened but for realistic (and disappointing) reasons it likely won't.

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getting an eminem dre album

will he go 0/3?

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I don’t care whose producing, I’m listening and not ready to be mad as shit because it’s not 14 “Nas Is Like’s”.

But I'd be lying if I didn't think it'd be nice to get a Stillmatic/Life is Good level, once a decade showcase from the god-MC.

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Dude makes absolutely dreadful records.

He is just bad at making collections of coherent and
good records.

Nas has been on victory lap stage. I’m just glad he still makes music and can still rap.

"Another Black Girl Lost" (Alleged 'Life is Good' outtake)
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"Royalty" (Released on 'The Lost Tapes 2')
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"Royalty" is OK.

This dude is bad at hooks huh ? Both hooks are ear-grating.

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I like "Royalty," but I wish the hook (written by Frank Ocean, I think, based on the song's writing credits) was completely different. The drums are more breakbeat-ish than I would've expected from Hit-Boy.

Hopefully the majority of whatever they're delivering is better than both of these.


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>I like "Royalty," but I wish the hook (written by Frank
>Ocean, I think, based on the song's writing credits)

Just to confirm, Frank Ocean definitely wrote it. There's an extremely brief 2014 snippet of him singing the original hook.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbVthZb4RFg

>"Another Black Girl Lost" (Alleged 'Life is Good' outtake)
>"Royalty" (Released on 'The Lost Tapes 2')

Those two songs are decent but the singing hooks are annoying, I hope this isn't one of things Hitboy likes to do is get chicks to sing on all his music, I usually skip tracks where Nas someone singing on the hooks.

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"City on Lock" (Dom Kennedy & Hit-Boy feat. Nas)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNeViglmKZ4

A muddy snippet of a Hit-Boy-produced Nas track, recorded during Hit-Boy's IG Live battle with Boi-1da back in late March:
https://twitter.com/Harry8__/status/1243761605378105344


Both of these are more promising, IMO.


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def had some beats i hear Nas over (matter of fact Nas is on City on Lock), so the sessions probably overlapped

Hit Boy & Dom Kennedy - City on Lock (feat. Nas)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNeViglmKZ4

Hit Boy & Dom Kennedy - We Blessed
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Not much to hate here......sounds like something that would've fit great on Untitled/Nigger.

...I'm not worried about this project sounding bad as a whole because Hit-Boy doesn't have a single style. I don't think Nas would get the same beats that Drake, or Casey Veggies or Jay Park would get.

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Does anyone else notice with Nas -- more than any other major rapper -- the lines where he punches in and is re-recording?

You can tell his inflection changes several times for a line or two in this one, and I remember in the past I've noticed this with Nas. Most notable was the album version of "Hip Hop Is Dead" where he re-recorded a bunch of lines, and I was so used to the OG version that the new lines stick out like a sore thumb, but I just chalked that up to him literally recorded part of the song months after the original. There's def other instances where I've noticed it and I rarely notice when rappers are punching in on their verses, unless I'm really paying attention.

Quick example from this song of what I'm talking about:
In the first verse, "Oh yes, oh yes, God bless success", the second part of that line "God bless success" is def a different recording than the start of the line and the follow up.

And he also leaves a lot of mistakes in the recording.

Part of the bad punching is an engineering issue though.

Unless he just is giving them absolute terrible takes and telling them he isn’t doing it again.

Lol

"Hip Hop is Dead". That was so blatant.

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Nas is probably my favorite emcee ever. This isn't bad, but it also isn't good. Very middle of the road stuff really. I am a bit confused by his decision to make an album with Hit Boy considering the producers Nas definitely has access to, but I hope the rest of the album is a step above this. Hopefully Nas raps much better than he did on the forgetful Kanye albumn

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>Nas is probably my favorite emcee ever. This isn't bad, but
>it also isn't good. Very middle of the road stuff really.

"Ultra Black" is cool; not bad, not great. Both the beat and rhymes feel like repetitive sketches of an incomplete idea.


>Hopefully Nas
>raps much better than he did on the forgetful Kanye album

Agreed.

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his best album since life is good

https://genius.com/albums/Nas/Kings-disease

>https://genius.com/albums/Nas/Kings-disease
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The song with Paak
Brucie B (because I'm assuming Brucie B unless the song is good)
The Firm reunion (I wonder why no Nature?)

....should be a strong run of songs.

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lol not sure if an elaborate troll, seems he always drops something on Nas release day. Its just a song vs an album this time tho.

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Diggin it

Edit: one listen through. Liked about 1/3rd of it. Most of the beats just didn’t do anything for me.

King’s Disease was sick and I usually dislike drumless tracks. The soul helped.
Car#85
Blue Benz didn’t grab me first time but second listen now and it’s knockin.
Not sure why but I enjoyed 27 Summers
Til The War Is Won conceptually is cool but is pretty corny overall. Beat works.
10 Points pulses along nicely. His flow is steady on this one.
The Cure bumps.

The rest is either ok or pretty weak. Handful of keepers though, I’m not mad at it. This seems like a successful collaboration.

His beat selection has always been criticized, these beats are pretty good, modern, slick...and...something seems off.

Guess we really do just want that Premo album.