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Buddy_Gilapagos
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"Name a good song that is too long. "


  

          

I was listening to Hi-Five's Kissing Game this weekend and I was like, damn when is this song going to end?

What else you got?

*waits for someone to say Purple Rain*


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I love Hi-Five and this is disrespectful...but I get it lol
Jun 29th 2020
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RE: Name a good song that is too long.
Jun 29th 2020
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Why - Carly Simon
Jun 29th 2020
3
Return of the Mack
Jun 29th 2020
4
pretty much every song on the 20/20 experience
Jun 29th 2020
5
Wholly agree
Jun 29th 2020
9
Yup ^^ I still want those instrumentals.
Jun 30th 2020
19
aw man
Jul 09th 2020
36
RE: pretty much every song on the 20/20 experience
Jul 10th 2020
39
I thought the length of the songs was the best part of that album
Jul 18th 2020
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Imo 90% of the songs on Mecca & The Soul Brother fit this category
Jun 29th 2020
6
i like the tracks where Pete has a quick verse as well...
Jun 29th 2020
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They'd probably get more recognition if CL was rapping less
Jun 29th 2020
8
Yea me too. Pete wasn't great on the mic but I liked his voice and flow.
Jun 29th 2020
10
You're Talking About An Era When Every Rap Song Had 3 Verses
Jun 29th 2020
11
16 songs 77 minutes. 16 minutes longer than "The Chronic"
Jun 30th 2020
20
Nah. I miss the three to four verses per song era
Jun 30th 2020
14
      "MCs should know their limitations" CL is too one dimensional
Jun 30th 2020
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           You wildin’ bro
Jun 30th 2020
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           I am right here
Jul 01st 2020
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           I enjoy Main Ingredient way more than Mecca & The Soul Brother
Jul 06th 2020
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                But aren’t their songs long because of Pete?
Jul 07th 2020
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           RE: "MCs should know their limitations" CL is too one dimensional
Jul 07th 2020
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                Poverty’s Paradise is dope though
Jul 07th 2020
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                     I still don't care too much for that album.
Jul 15th 2020
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Jimmy Spicer "Adventures Of Super Rhyme"
Jun 29th 2020
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Rappers Delight?
Jun 29th 2020
13
Another Star - Stevie Wonder
Jun 30th 2020
15
there's some heresy in this thread, lol
Jul 09th 2020
37
lol
Jul 10th 2020
38
nonononono...no
Jul 14th 2020
46
      RE: nonononono...no
Jul 15th 2020
49
wu tang - triumph
Jun 30th 2020
16
Nah yo...that shit is perfect
Jun 30th 2020
17
the energy after Deck & Meth is COMPLETELY different
Jun 30th 2020
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i came in for this lol
Jul 13th 2020
43
RE: Name a good song that is too long.
Jun 30th 2020
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"We Major"
Jul 01st 2020
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I always thought that song was overrated as fuck
Jul 07th 2020
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I agree although...
Jul 07th 2020
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RE: "We Major"
Jul 10th 2020
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The "long" part was better than the part with the verses, tho
Jul 18th 2020
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isaac hayes- hyperbolicsyllabicsusquedalmistic.
Jul 07th 2020
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RE: isaac hayes- hyperbolicsyllabicsusquedalmistic.
Jul 10th 2020
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Freeze Tag - Dinner Party
Jul 07th 2020
33
Brandy "I Wanna Be Down (The Non-Rap Version)"
Jul 08th 2020
34
No good song is ever "too long" n/m
Jul 09th 2020
35
FEAR. - Kendrick Lamar
Jul 11th 2020
42
I wish this was split into two separate songs
Jul 13th 2020
44
I don’t want good songs to end lol
Jul 13th 2020
45
The extended version of Do I Do
Jul 14th 2020
47

CherNic
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1. "I love Hi-Five and this is disrespectful...but I get it lol"
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There are not many songs that are *too* long to me...I also love disco/house so I'm all about extended stuff.

  

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2. "RE: Name a good song that is too long. "
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>*waits for someone to say Purple Rain*
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lol

I will say Im not a huge fan of the extended remixes like a lot of people are. The 12 minute or whatever Computer Blue is cool to hear a couple times I guess, but I prefer the short version cuz I ain't got time for that.

  

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3. "Why - Carly Simon"
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Love the song for the first 2:30 or so, but it's super repetitive. People realize it too, because there are about 3 different versions with the the length as the only change.

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4. "Return of the Mack"
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5. "pretty much every song on the 20/20 experience "
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they all have these long as timbo breakdowns in them
they could re-release the whole album as single edits

  

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9. "Wholly agree"
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19. "Yup ^^ I still want those instrumentals."
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Production-wise, Timbaland did his thing on that album. But you are right... the songs are way too long

  

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36. "aw man"
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That's what I actually liked most about that record -- on a few songs they don't have enough to substance to hang the extra duration on, but I felt like it turned most of the tunes into more than the tunes themselves.


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39. "RE: pretty much every song on the 20/20 experience "
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>they all have these long as timbo breakdowns in them
>they could re-release the whole album as single edits

It is the first album I thought about. They basically worked themselves into hella jams and didn't know how to get out of them. So they'd just keep going. And going.

It worked out better most of the time on FS/LS than it did on 20/20, but yeah...Spaceship Coupe could've been 4 minutes and it would've been ON.

  

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50. "I thought the length of the songs was the best part of that album"
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6. "Imo 90% of the songs on Mecca & The Soul Brother fit this category"
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I don't see a need for CL Smooth to have more than 2 verses on a song EVER.

CL's tone is very pleasing to the ear but he wasn't saying much that I remember.

  

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7. "i like the tracks where Pete has a quick verse as well..."
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...but theres a lot of 3 Verse CL only classics as well


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8. "They'd probably get more recognition if CL was rapping less"
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>...but theres a lot of 3 Verse CL only classics as well
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All that rapping yielded very few quotables. I think he's a better rapper now than he was then.

  

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10. "Yea me too. Pete wasn't great on the mic but I liked his voice and flow."
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11. "You're Talking About An Era When Every Rap Song Had 3 Verses"
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Three verses were the basic model for any rap song, shit, you want to complain just think of all those early 80's rap songs which had five to six verses, or even worst when some rap songs had one long ass verse that was the entire song, what I don't like is how dancehall reggae artists do their verses and chorus without any pauses or breaks inbetween once in a while you might hear the beat by itself at the very end.

I thought C.L.'s third verses were great on some songs, he stayed true to the subject matter, but I will say on some songs he could've dropped a few third verses and paired them up with another song & beat and have an entirely new song.


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20. "16 songs 77 minutes. 16 minutes longer than "The Chronic""
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24 minutes longer than "Whut Thee Album"

11 minutes longer than "Stunts Blunts & Hip-Hop"

19 minutes longer than "Music to Driveby"

15 minutes longer than "Live and Let Die"

These are all great hip-hop albums from 1992 with the same amount of tracks or more.

  

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14. "Nah. I miss the three to four verses per song era"
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21. ""MCs should know their limitations" CL is too one dimensional"
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to have 3 or more verses on a song. He's no KRS or Treach or Wise Intelligent or anything like that.

CL isn't weak at all but I'm good on him after 2 verses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj57HqE17X8

  

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23. "You wildin’ bro"
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CL is dope as shit

And truth be told, you can apply that “one-dimensional” comment to most MCs period.

You either like their style enough for a full album or you don’t.

The Main Ingredient is longer than M&TSB and that’s my favorite album ever.

I gots NO complaints about him kicking 3 verses per song.

  

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25. "I am right here"
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I vote MORE CL!

Who cares if they aren't quotable, do his lyrics glide and slide in the ride, .. uhmm yup.

"Now let me take you on journey through Caramel City, Where CL's god and the ladies gotta hit me ... off .."



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26. "I enjoy Main Ingredient way more than Mecca & The Soul Brother"
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>CL is dope as shit
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>And truth be told, you can apply that “one-dimensional”
>comment to most MCs period.
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>You either like their style enough for a full album or you
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>The Main Ingredient is longer than M&TSB and that’s my
>favorite album ever.
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>I gots NO complaints about him kicking 3 verses per song.

So I have to retract the no need for CL to have 3 verses thing.
But if you see my original post it was about Mecca & The Soul Brother. I felt like the songs on All Souled Out & Mecca & The Soul Brother were too long. Main Ingredient came together so much better it's excellent grown man rap.

  

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27. "But aren’t their songs long because of Pete?"
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I don’t feel like CL is kicking three 32 bar verses on each song lol

Their songs are usually a longer run time due to Pete adding in the bridges and taking time to shine at the end with the drops and scratches.

Which is something I always found dope.

I was just too young for Mecca & The Soul Brother as that’s when I was getting into hip-hop through more commercial albums like The Chronic and The Predator.

The Main Ingredient was my shit because not only was it insanely dope, but it also didn’t have that advisor sticker so that helped at the age of 12 when my parents were not trying to let me play other albums.

But I remember even then noticing how long that album was. 78 minutes is pushing it a bit. But every song was crazy and I noticed that the length was due to Pete scratching and bringing the hook in and out at the end. Not to mention the beat interludes.

And I loved all of it! Lol

  

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30. "RE: "MCs should know their limitations" CL is too one dimensional"
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>to have 3 or more verses on a song. He's no KRS or Treach or
>Wise Intelligent or anything like that.

I don't know anyone who stayed listening to Naughty By Nature albums past 1993... Pete & CL is another story.


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31. "Poverty’s Paradise is dope though"
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I admit that we didn’t like it when it dropped, but it definitely sounds better now.

Clap Your Hands
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That album has some bangers to me.

  

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48. "I still don't care too much for that album."
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"World Go Round" is my shit, though.


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12. "Jimmy Spicer "Adventures Of Super Rhyme""
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I love the song but he could've shorten it down to one side of the record, some records only had one vocal side being 15 minutes long, but there is also versions which had a continuation of the song being an additional 8 minutes long.

The first part has a long storyline then breaks into a few call & response chorus parts but when you hear the second part of the song you realize he didn't finish the storyline on the first part; but these were how most rap songs were in the early 80's, disco party style to be played in clubs to keep people engaged on the dancefloor.


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13. "Rappers Delight?"
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I'd argue that it didn't need to be as long and in hindsight they could've done a part 2 over a different beat and doubled up on the success.

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15. "Another Star - Stevie Wonder"
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Love that song, but it's 3 or 4 minutes too long. I usually end up skipping the end. Like why is the only version of the song the extended disco mix lol. Out of all the songs on the album, why make THAT one the 2nd longest? I never needed to hear the entire thing after hearing it the first time.
Black Man is slightly longer, which makes sense with him calling out names... it has purpose. "As" is the 3rd longest, and it's just ... amazing. Another Star was long enough at the 4:10 - 5:00 mark imo. It would've made the album flow better for me.

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37. "there's some heresy in this thread, lol"
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38. "lol"
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46. "nonononono...no"
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he even extended it another 2-3 minutes during the 2014 sitkol shows..pure joy whole way through

  

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49. "RE: nonononono...no"
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>he even extended it another 2-3 minutes during the 2014
>sitkol shows..pure joy whole way through


Much different in concert. It's that kind of song.

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16. "wu tang - triumph"
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that beat is flames, but the energy of the rhymes fell off after rza.

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17. "Nah yo...that shit is perfect"
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Should actually be longer because I’m mad as fuck GZA only spit 6 bars!

Who the fuck elects to only spit 6 bars??!!

The track isn’t even 6 minutes long.

And I’m not sure how the energy falls off after RZA when Ghost and Rae bring flames at the end.

Not to mention that Masta Killa verse is classic.

  

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18. "the energy after Deck & Meth is COMPLETELY different"
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I don't know if the lineup could have been crafted differently or what but yea....I can dig this answer

  

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43. "i came in for this lol"
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im not sure that its too long but it does have some dead spots. it instantly hits when it comes on then you start snoozing in parts.

it does have spots all the way through that hit though. you might snooze for a bit but then someone else comes in gets you back in it.

  

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22. "RE: Name a good song that is too long. "
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This joint right here...so much energy, then the beat change and Danny Brown ruin it for me...

El-P "Oh Hail No"

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Double M
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24. ""We Major""
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'Ye didn't need to talk his shit again after the Nas verse and hook.

  

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28. "I always thought that song was overrated as fuck"
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The hook is too long and annoying.

And I’m just not a fan of pairing a no name artist with someone like Nas.

And yes, Ye should always elect to not talk shit.

  

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32. "I agree although..."
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I agree although the charm of that song was it's 'everything and the kitchen sink' aspect to it. It had the over the top melody, the way too big drums, and the bridge that didn't need to be there.

It shouldn't have worked but it did.

<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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40. "RE: "We Major""
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>'Ye didn't need to talk his shit again after the Nas verse
>and hook.

I fully expected an unlisted JayZ verse on that song. And then West kept on babbling! But I still liked the hell out of that song (and album).

  

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51. "The "long" part was better than the part with the verses, tho"
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29. "isaac hayes- hyperbolicsyllabicsusquedalmistic."
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"To Each His Reach"

but.....

Fuck aliens.

  

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jimaveli
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41. "RE: isaac hayes- hyperbolicsyllabicsusquedalmistic."
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>"To Each His Reach"
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>but.....
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>Fuck aliens.

Black Moses is your guy for long azz songs. Sometimes he'll bless it with a different bridge or something to pay it off. Other times? Nope...just Ike not wanting to get out of there cuz he was jammin too hard. But sometimes it works out. I'll listen to Walk on By in full most of the time for instance. I feel cheated when I stumble in to the 'short' version by accident.

Barry would do it too but I'm so pro-Barry up until around the album he made with Glodean (sp) that you can't expect me to admit that in writing! The album version of I've Found Someone..he literally says that he has no more words to say AND THEN HE SINGS THE HOOK AGAIN and vamps out randomly. Me and my momma clown about that every time. Her and my pops were huge Barry fans so they put me on. I still laugh when I think about how quick they'd turn off Love Serenade when I was little. All I'd hear was 'TAKE IT OFF!' then record scratch and onto the other side. I didn't hear the whole song until I was a teenager.

  

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33. "Freeze Tag - Dinner Party"
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Been playing this in the ride, and I love the sound, but it should've been an interlude. It's way too repetitive in general but especially for a song containing musicians of that caliber. Will probably use my software to cut it down to about 1:30 or so.

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Everything's turning out perfectly

  

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34. "Brandy "I Wanna Be Down (The Non-Rap Version)""
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The other day I was listening to the radio and Brandy's "I Wanna Be Down" came on and I was expecting Latifah & Lyte to rap but realize it was the regular album version without the raps and after two & a half minutes I was like okay this song is dope but without the raps it's just going on a little too long for me.

I thought the radio station was going to cut off the song early like they do with a lot of songs that go pass the three minute mark but nope they let it play for the full radio edit length of four minutes, I was so happy when the song finally went off.


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& your fool ass is cruising around in a time machine
trying to collect props for a couple of sociopathic degenerates" - s.blak

  

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35. "No good song is ever "too long" n/m"
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http://www.facebook.com/book1

  

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42. "FEAR. - Kendrick Lamar"
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It's a great concept with a distinct and unique best but it's hard to listen to often because it's a 7+ minute song.

Sing of Me from Good Kid, m.A.A.d City gives me a similar feeling.

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44. "I wish this was split into two separate songs"
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>Sing of Me from Good Kid, m.A.A.d City gives me a similar
>feeling.
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I really like both tracks, but more times than not I want to listen to Dying of Thirst without having to listen to Sing For Me first.

  

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45. "I don’t want good songs to end lol"
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IF there too long they’re no longer good

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47. "The extended version of Do I Do"
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