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hip bopper
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"Shabazz Palaces - The Don of Diamond Dreams"


          

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77xtaGAHt_4

This first song Fast Learner is the lead single from this album slated to release April 17th. A partner of mines sent the link for the entire album and it is a very solid effort... they never disappoint. Can’t wait to get that vinyl in when it’s released.

  

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Chocolate Soufflé
Mar 25th 2020
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RE: Shabazz Palaces - The Don of Diamond Dreams
Apr 17th 2020
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Thanks for the heads up!
Apr 17th 2020
3
No problem
Apr 17th 2020
4
I enjoy the sound of this more than the double album
Apr 17th 2020
5
RE: I enjoy the sound of this more than the double album
Apr 17th 2020
6
      Lese Majesty is my top SP album, had everything I wanted
Apr 17th 2020
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           RE: Lese Majesty is my top SP album, had everything I wanted
Apr 17th 2020
8
           Fair enough man, just glad so many people dig what SP
Apr 17th 2020
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                RE: Fair enough man, just glad so many people dig what SP
Apr 18th 2020
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                     RE: Fair enough man, just glad so many people dig what SP
Apr 18th 2020
19
           RE: Lese Majesty is my top SP album, had everything I wanted
Apr 18th 2020
15
Says here Tendai is no longer part of Shabazz Palaces
Apr 17th 2020
10
RE: Says here Tendai is no longer part of Shabazz Palaces
Apr 17th 2020
12
      Think it’ll be mostly seen in the live show.
Apr 17th 2020
13
           RE: Think it’ll be mostly seen in the live show.
Apr 18th 2020
14
Cool interview here with Ish
Apr 17th 2020
11
RE: Cool interview here with Ish
Apr 18th 2020
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      RE: Cool interview here with Ish
Apr 19th 2020
25
Ish promoting the album on IG
Apr 18th 2020
18
That’s funny you say that
Apr 18th 2020
20
      RE: That’s funny you say that
Apr 18th 2020
21
the album has a nice vibe
Apr 18th 2020
22
Diggin’ it, heavily
Apr 19th 2020
23
is it shabazz palaces without tendai?
Apr 19th 2020
24
listened once
Apr 21st 2020
26
      RE: listened once
Apr 21st 2020
27
Terrible
Apr 21st 2020
28
It’s top heavy but there are definitely some gems
Apr 25th 2020
29
I enjoy hearing his outlook on current events
Apr 26th 2020
30
I think that people are overlooking this about the album.
Apr 28th 2020
31

hip bopper
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1. "Chocolate Soufflé "
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHoYneY2Cu4

  

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hip bopper
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2. "RE: Shabazz Palaces - The Don of Diamond Dreams"
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https://shabazzpalaces.bandcamp.com/album/the-don-of-diamond-dreams

As always this duo comes with a different sound. From Ad Ventures to Reg Walks By the Looking Glass, it is a psychedelic ride. It is refreshing in thIs day and age of hip hop that you have artists whe aren’t afraid to go away from what people think the genre should sound like. To make an effort to make sure that your current project is different from your last. These types of artists are the true trendsetters.

  

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cidolfas
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3. "Thanks for the heads up!"
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hip bopper
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4. "No problem "
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natenate101
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5. "I enjoy the sound of this more than the double album"
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His vocals aren’t as obscured. Wish it was longer though. Only 8 tracks. But Ish is always on point and musically as mentioned above it’s something different and I always appreciate them for never being stale. Makes me wish we still had live shows to attend, as I’ve seen them many times and their stuff is enhanced when you get to see it performed.

  

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hip bopper
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6. "RE: I enjoy the sound of this more than the double album"
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>His vocals aren’t as obscured. Wish it was longer though.
>Only 8 tracks. But Ish is always on point and musically as
>mentioned above it’s something different and I always
>appreciate them for never being stale. Makes me wish we still
>had live shows to attend, as I’ve seen them many times and
>their stuff is enhanced when you get to see it performed.

I prefer the double Quazarz more, and it’s my favorite album from them.

I haven’t seen them live, but when artists start doing shows again I will be checking them out even if I have to travel out of state.

  

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natenate101
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7. "Lese Majesty is my top SP album, had everything I wanted"
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Quazarz has many moments or segments I like or even love, but the whole thing never coalesced for me. I’m into anything by them though, and always find something to appreciate. Chocolate Soufflé is my joint man.

  

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hip bopper
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8. "RE: Lese Majesty is my top SP album, had everything I wanted"
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>Quazarz has many moments or segments I like or even love, but
>the whole thing never coalesced for me. I’m into anything by
>them though, and always find something to appreciate.
>Chocolate Soufflé is my joint man.

That’s crazy... lol

I think that Shine a Light, Atlaantis, Welcome to Quazarz, the instrumental joints, distorted sounds put Quazarz over the top for me. It was just so weird of an album and that is up my alley sonically since a majority of my collection is avant-garde type music.

Chocolate Soufflé is near the bottom of the list on this album, but it’s a dope track. That Reg Walks By the Looking Glass is always on repeat.

  

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natenate101
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9. "Fair enough man, just glad so many people dig what SP"
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are doing. Yeah, catch them live for sure, Ish’s energy and swagger are exceptional. I’m so glad he kept pushing musically after DPs and Cherrywine. He really has had a renaissance as an artist and it’s fantastic to see. Along with Q-Tip he is easily my favorite MC/producer/artist.

  

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BlakStaar
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17. "RE: Fair enough man, just glad so many people dig what SP"
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>along with Q-Tip he is easily my favorite MC/producer/artist.

This is interesting. Ish has said in an old interview that he really admired Q-Tip and was even trying to sound like him when he got into hip-hop.

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"Music is not to be possessed; it's to be shared.” - James Mtume

"Just stay loose, keep it raw, and bang ya drums out sometimes." - Madlib

  

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hip bopper
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19. "RE: Fair enough man, just glad so many people dig what SP"
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>>along with Q-Tip he is easily my favorite
>MC/producer/artist.
>
>This is interesting. Ish has said in an old interview that he
>really admired Q-Tip and was even trying to sound like him
>when he got into hip-hop.
>

In trying to do so it took him to a different place. Not just trying to sound like Tip, but the other Natives as well. Ish’s mantra was to be different from others even if you are using the same platform.

  

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15. "RE: Lese Majesty is my top SP album, had everything I wanted"
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>Quazarz has many moments or segments I like or even love, but
>the whole thing never coalesced for me.

Agreed on this. All the parts are good to stellar but as a full album it never quite came together. It's the weakest of the catalog, imo, but still a great listen (of course).

-thebigfunk

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natenate101
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10. "Says here Tendai is no longer part of Shabazz Palaces"
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Fri Apr-17-20 05:56 PM by natenate101

          

Wonder how that will affect the live shows. Gonna have to absorb this album a lot more to see if his absence is felt. https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/apr/16/shabazz-palaces-the-don-of-diamond-dreams-album-review

Fast Learner is so smooth man.

  

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hip bopper
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12. "RE: Says here Tendai is no longer part of Shabazz Palaces"
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It shouldn’t affect things that much. If you listened to Knife Knights, his collabs with 319 and other artists then you know that Ish is always going to come with something abstract. With that said Tendai will definitely be missed from the instrumentation side of things, but I’m sure that Ish will be able to manage.

  

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13. "Think it’ll be mostly seen in the live show."
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They always seemed so funny in interviews together but also seemed quite different. Ish does it all and has since DPs so I’m not worried, just curious since they’ve been together for so long.

  

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hip bopper
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14. "RE: Think it’ll be mostly seen in the live show."
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Hey if it wasn’t for Tendai there would probably no Shabazz. Ish definitely saw Tendai as an asset in what he could do as a multi-instrumentalist. My question is will Tendai stick to doing Chimurenga Renaissance from here on out? SP had an amazing decade dropping 4 gems in that period.

This also could be clearing the path for a new DP album which Ish said was down the road.

  

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11. "Cool interview here with Ish"
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http://floodmagazine.com/76950/in-conversation-the-abstractions-and-absolutes-of-shabazz-palaces-ishmael-butler/

  

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16. "RE: Cool interview here with Ish"
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Thanks. Interviews with Ish is always a treat.

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"Just stay loose, keep it raw, and bang ya drums out sometimes." - Madlib

  

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25. "RE: Cool interview here with Ish"
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*are

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"Just stay loose, keep it raw, and bang ya drums out sometimes." - Madlib

  

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18. "Ish promoting the album on IG"
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https://www.instagram.com/p/B_GioWOnDQz/

That last impersonation, tho. "It sounds like Nas had a cold and spent the night in Outkast's basement"

I posted this in GD, too, but I'm convinced the first single "Fast Learner" features his son Lil Tracy, which is just another way of saying Purple Tape Nape is Tracy's alias? He's in the video, too.

I can't find any solid info online about Purple Tape Nape who has been on Shabazz Palaces songs before.

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"Just stay loose, keep it raw, and bang ya drums out sometimes." - Madlib

  

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20. "That’s funny you say that "
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I’m convinced Purple Tape Nate is just Ish. He has used aliases on his own stuff before.

  

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21. "RE: That’s funny you say that "
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That's a good guess and you may be right. I guessed it was Tracy because it sounds like that new age autotune rap shit his son does. LOL. (No shade to Jazz/Lil Tracy, tho).

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22. "the album has a nice vibe"
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abstract chill music. i've always been a digable planets fan and
this feels like a 2020 extension of that type of music.

  

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23. "Diggin’ it, heavily"
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24. "is it shabazz palaces without tendai?"
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not feeling it

production values and mixing kinda fell off the cliff

black up and lese majesty are personal classics

they can keep this shit

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

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26. "listened once"
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First impressions are similar

I was legit bored at some points.

How you going to make a boring record and label it SP?

But who knows, might change my mind completely on the next listen.

-thebigfunk

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hip bopper
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27. "RE: listened once"
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Not it’s not... it’s just very apparent that they were dumbing down on this record quite a bit. It’s a much simpler made record than their previous works the past decade. More geared toward today current sound, sighting his son as an influence.

  

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28. "Terrible "
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Outside of the first track, there is basically nothing for me here. Ish barely showed up for this. His rapping is terrible - lazy even. The lyrics are basic and some of them cringeworthy. I am saying this as a fan of Shabazz Palaces. It's incredible that this and their first two albums involve the same rapper. If these instrumentals were given to another rapper who sounded more inspired, you could probably make a good album out of it. 

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29. "It’s top heavy but there are definitely some gems"
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“My credentials magnify potentials
No matter who sent you I’ma pinch you, boy
If I’m available, she gon’ bench you
God'll send you when the rents due (Do)
Or die, if not, why try?
If not for the sky that’s a constellation adage
In the Sportif vest, look ravish
Rap lines get lavished for cabbage
Dips fine, get dazzled 'cause it's magic
Algiers is thick out in Paris
Game kicked, I ain’t know she was an heiress
Stellies hear the new shit like, "Yeah, Ish"
Divine mathematics, designer fabric, aligned to my Cash App, maverick status
Sphinx of the pink cabin, the links? Ethiopian gold karats
Drinks clink, watch the lake from the terrace
One blink and the girl thinking marriage
We flourished everything that they dared us
It's dumb popping when the drums come knocking
Zanzi club hopping or an island was the options
I asked, "What's stopping?", her answer was, "Not him”
My eyes burn embers like emeralds
Fly shit, defenders Stellie member lent pretenders my adventures”

  

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30. "I enjoy hearing his outlook on current events"
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and the way he expressed the depth of emotion with a parent passing. Lost my dad in January and his words resonate heavily with me. Gives that last track, which I enjoy but don’t love, some extra context.
https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.55471/title.shabazz-palaces-the-don-of-diamond-dreams-spotlights-ishmael-butlers-familial-ties

  

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31. "I think that people are overlooking this about the album."
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Half of the songs in here deal with family which struck a chord with me because I’m big in family. Losing my mother over a decade ago and caring for my dad on a daily basis... basically watching the downward spiral. Dealing with my son and daughters. A couple of sisters that are ailing health wise. It’s good to see an artist reach outside of normal hip hop topics to reflect on things and people that are important to him.

  

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