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howardlloyd
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"jay electronica ALBUM DONE"


  

          

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even if it comes out this time around..
Feb 07th 2020
1
RE: believe it when i see it
Feb 07th 2020
2
sure it is
Feb 07th 2020
3
Debut album at 50 yrs old. Gotta be a first.
Feb 07th 2020
4
All part of his master plan..
Feb 07th 2020
5
lmao.. is he really?
Feb 07th 2020
6
      Maybe not quite but he's gotta be close.
Feb 08th 2020
10
           I have never heard him say his age anywhere
Mar 10th 2020
36
                lol yea I was joking re: 50yo
Mar 10th 2020
37
Jay is a spiritual man.
Feb 07th 2020
7
Damn did I sort by old by accident?
Feb 07th 2020
8
Ha!
Feb 07th 2020
9
RE: jay electronica ALBUM DONE
Feb 08th 2020
11
if it’s on par with his discography, I’m buying it
Feb 08th 2020
12
wish i could have got a placement on that! haha!
Feb 08th 2020
13
Like I posted in GD I wanna see official channels confirm it. If/when it
Feb 10th 2020
14
Hov liked the tweets. Just Blaze, Alchemist, Guru all chimed in.
Feb 10th 2020
15
saw him live, was one of the worst performances i've ever seen
Feb 11th 2020
16
album now featuring Hov (in costarring role)???
Feb 12th 2020
17
cmon b
Feb 12th 2020
18
      Shrug. I think the idea sounds really cool
Feb 12th 2020
19
      Some people do work better as a group than as a solo performer
Feb 12th 2020
20
      I’m just using that as the example...
Feb 12th 2020
21
           Jay Elec and Jay Z make dope collabs esp We Made It
Feb 13th 2020
22
20 days to go
Feb 27th 2020
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19 days to go
Feb 28th 2020
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      18 days to go
Feb 29th 2020
27
           17 days to go
Mar 02nd 2020
28
I love the energy in this performance
Feb 29th 2020
25
Jay-Z Rapping - Jay-E yelling
Mar 02nd 2020
30
      RE: Jay-Z Rapping - Jay-E yelling
Mar 04th 2020
31
      RE: Jay-Z was calm and Jay Elec was hype. Good show
Mar 09th 2020
35
who did the beats?
Feb 29th 2020
26
RE: this is what i want to know
Mar 02nd 2020
29
They release albums on Wednesday now?
Mar 06th 2020
32
this is what I said when first read tweet.
Mar 07th 2020
33
I'm guessing a Tidal exclusive for a couple days?
Mar 08th 2020
34
From Young Guru's IG
Mar 10th 2020
38
RE: From Young Guru's IG
Mar 11th 2020
39
STOP UPPING THIS SPAMMY GARBAGE!!!
Mar 11th 2020
40
gonna be weird listening to an album that doesn't exist
Mar 11th 2020
41
Tidal announces 3 listening parties on March 12 in NO, LA, and NYC
Mar 11th 2020
42
LIES.
Mar 11th 2020
43
      hahaha very fair!
Mar 11th 2020
44
      Funny because it's true
Mar 12th 2020
47
Tracklist and Cover Art
Mar 12th 2020
45
Tracklist translated
Mar 12th 2020
46
Livestreaming
Mar 12th 2020
48
OH YEAH! TOLD YALL.
Mar 12th 2020
49
      this shit is OH-SHIT-FFICIAL.
Mar 12th 2020
50
      RE: OH YEAH! TOLD YALL.
Mar 12th 2020
51
Glad it’s here. Just wanted to hear him spit new stuff
Mar 13th 2020
52
This Hov experimental album
Mar 13th 2020
53
Highly disappointed
Mar 13th 2020
54
I'm genuinely curious about Just.
Mar 13th 2020
56
ive been there
Mar 13th 2020
65
      this made me laugh out loud
Mar 13th 2020
71
RE: Highly disappointed
Mar 13th 2020
57
Off first listen it sounds like Electronica wasn't gonna do anything.
Mar 13th 2020
55
sounds like JE took about 35 of those last 40 days off
Mar 13th 2020
60
Electronica is an accessory here, Hov as inspired as ever
Mar 13th 2020
58
I was right. Jay Electronica didn't drop an album
Mar 13th 2020
59
Yeah I'm still hoping for the rest of Act II to leak some day
Mar 13th 2020
62
I’m listening now. Flame emojis so far!!
Mar 13th 2020
61
just makes me want to go listen to old Jay elec tbh
Mar 13th 2020
63
its dope
Mar 13th 2020
64
melodramatic farrakhan (in 2020?) intro, very dope last song.
Mar 13th 2020
66
Shit...I like it. Hov killed it too. Neverending is my shit!
Mar 13th 2020
67
I enjoyed it... Never thought I'd hear Hov on a lo-fi beat
Mar 13th 2020
68
Yall bugging, this is nothing but great.
Mar 13th 2020
69
Top tier songwriting throughout
Mar 13th 2020
70
RE: Top tier songwriting throughout
Mar 20th 2020
142
I think it's awesome too
Mar 13th 2020
72
Wow, you guys are such miserable sacks of dogshit.
Mar 13th 2020
73
damn...that was a good ass opinion on the music bruh
Mar 13th 2020
75
      Appreciate that...I try to set an example
Mar 14th 2020
82
I renounce all previous statements. This fire.
Mar 13th 2020
74
It's definitely a grower.
Mar 13th 2020
76
      I can’t wait to get either lossless or a CD
Mar 14th 2020
85
zero expectations because I never cared.......I like this
Mar 13th 2020
77
Jay Z FINALLY cosigns abstract hip hop...and now..everybody gonna..
Mar 13th 2020
78
oh..and I hope MACH is next up!
Mar 13th 2020
79
I dunno I'm bored with this.
Mar 13th 2020
80
with ya
Mar 15th 2020
87
this is a “headphones on, sitting in the recliner in the evening” al...
Mar 15th 2020
88
Ezekiel's Wheel on repeat
Mar 14th 2020
81
RE: jay electronica ALBUM DONE
Mar 14th 2020
83
https://awrittentestimony.com/
Mar 14th 2020
84
      went here to cop the physical. thanks for the link!
Mar 15th 2020
91
RE: HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA
Mar 15th 2020
86
i like it a lot
Mar 15th 2020
89
Some of these Beats remind me of some MF DOOM shit
Mar 15th 2020
90
May all my haters hit they knees and throw up in the toilet (c) Jay Elec...
Mar 15th 2020
92
RE: May all my haters hit they knees and throw up in the toilet (c) Jay ...
Mar 16th 2020
94
^^^ thanks for pointing out that this is the same clown.
Mar 16th 2020
95
Estupido #2
Mar 16th 2020
97
      You heard any of the Roots' music yet or ... ?
Mar 16th 2020
100
           So glad you took their dick out ya mouth.
Mar 17th 2020
112
                Why are you lying.
Mar 17th 2020
114
                     I don’t have to do that with your dumb ass.
Mar 17th 2020
115
                          Bye bitch.
Mar 17th 2020
116
                               RE: Bye bitch.
Mar 18th 2020
122
                                    "LeT tHiS bE oUr LaSt CoNvErSaTiOn" ©
Mar 18th 2020
124
                                         Right so your dumb ass shouldn’t have replied.
Mar 18th 2020
126
                                              Just trying to be courtous. Bye bitch !
Mar 18th 2020
128
Estupido #1
Mar 16th 2020
96
have you listened to any other new hip hop yet?
Mar 16th 2020
99
      RE: have you listened to any other new hip hop yet?
Mar 17th 2020
111
           LB and Skyzoo/Pete are like 35-45 minutes!
Mar 18th 2020
125
                RE: LB and Skyzoo/Pete are like 35-45 minutes!
Mar 18th 2020
127
                     Sus.
Mar 18th 2020
129
                          Look lil bitch
Mar 19th 2020
131
Where are all the drums?
Mar 16th 2020
93
masterpiece
Mar 16th 2020
98
very nice album...unbelievable hov is still making such powerful project...
Mar 16th 2020
101
LOL - yea that's nearly half the album bruh.
Mar 16th 2020
104
elec's lyricism is pretty lacking here IMO
Mar 16th 2020
102
I felt the same way. Also a lot of similar rhyme patterns and verbal cru...
Mar 16th 2020
103
Question for the floor then.
Mar 16th 2020
105
RE: elec's lyricism is pretty lacking here IMO
Mar 16th 2020
106
Album is unbelievably ass
Mar 16th 2020
107
lol calm down man...its dope
Mar 16th 2020
109
It really not though
Mar 17th 2020
113
You have the new coronavirus. Self-quarantine and call your provider.
Mar 17th 2020
117
      My first album had all famous guest appearances...
Mar 17th 2020
120
God, I wish he would've just put out the tracklist he leaked
Mar 16th 2020
108
"Call of Duty" was dope too
Mar 16th 2020
110
RE: I really hope Dear Moleskin gets released one day
Mar 17th 2020
119
You probably would find something to dislike about that too LOL
Mar 23rd 2020
153
      Lol@ scores
Mar 24th 2020
156
I can't figure out what people want if they DON'T want this
Mar 17th 2020
118
Y’all can’t be fucking serious
Mar 17th 2020
121
Folks are just plain retarded...
Mar 18th 2020
123
      says the guy using the word “retarded” in 2020
Mar 18th 2020
130
           ^^^ must’ve been offended ^^^
Mar 23rd 2020
152
These threads are becoming too predictable
Mar 19th 2020
132
Agreed
Mar 19th 2020
133
LMFAO.....what the poster said is EXACTLY what YOU do...lol
Mar 20th 2020
141
      That’s odd...
Mar 20th 2020
143
We may be at an impasse
Mar 19th 2020
134
LOL nah it's definitely true.
Mar 19th 2020
135
RE: LOL nah it's definitely true.
Mar 19th 2020
136
All of this
Mar 20th 2020
137
RE: These threads are becoming too predictable
Mar 20th 2020
138
      This is great.
Mar 20th 2020
139
      !!!!!!!Hand claps!!!!!!!!!
Mar 20th 2020
140
      Well said
Mar 20th 2020
144
      Rule #1: don't be a miserable, mad piece of shit. And a nerd to boot.
Mar 20th 2020
145
           Fam.
Mar 20th 2020
146
           yes. sports discussion is so much better
Mar 26th 2020
157
It's the perfect album for RN
Mar 22nd 2020
147
You’re right...I wanted a dope album...this is not that
Mar 22nd 2020
148
      Lol
Mar 22nd 2020
149
      See: You're just a hater. What was smart about that?
Mar 22nd 2020
150
      Needy ass fans
Mar 22nd 2020
151
           Lol
Mar 23rd 2020
155
This fan made Jay Elec video is pretty good (link)
Mar 23rd 2020
154
Chiming in...
Mar 28th 2020
158
Great Job Guys
Mar 28th 2020
159

spitfire
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1. "even if it comes out this time around.."
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...it's about 10 years too late

i'd still like to hear it tho

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rmcphedr
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2. "RE: believe it when i see it"
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fontgangsta
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3. "sure it is"
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Brew
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4. "Debut album at 50 yrs old. Gotta be a first."
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Original Juice
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5. "All part of his master plan.."
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He was patiently waiting for grown man rap to become accepted in the mainstream.

Now that it is and he's reached middle age, he's making his move.

  

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6. "lmao.. is he really?"
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10. "Maybe not quite but he's gotta be close."
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I think he was 30+ when he even arrived on the scene a decade or more ago lol.

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36. "I have never heard him say his age anywhere"
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Tue Mar-10-20 08:59 PM by spirit

  

          

Wiki has him at 44

Peace,

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Brew
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37. "lol yea I was joking re: 50yo"
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But per my 2nd post I did remember in all seriousness reading somewhere that he was 30ish when his name started getting big circa 2009ish.

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7. "Jay is a spiritual man. "
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Maybe in his reality it's 2010 and so he thinks people are still hyped to hear him. j/k

But even if this album is fire, it's about 10 years too late. He should have kept from dropping an album just for the mystique.

I will feel like a spouse who's been cheated on repeatedly who goes back. Everytime thinking things will end up like they were meant to be.

  

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8. "Damn did I sort by old by accident? "
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obsidianchrysalis
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9. "Ha!"
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Nice one.

  

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gatsbythegreat
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11. "RE: jay electronica ALBUM DONE"
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As true now as it was ten years ago...if he drops an album, it will be fire.

If.

It was all a dream
http://soundcloud.com/gatsby-the-great-1

  

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12. "if it’s on par with his discography, I’m buying it"
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Dude has put out a lot of songs I like. If he puts out an album that matches the quality of his output so far, I’m buying it. It’s that simple. CD for the whip if available, highest quality download format if no physical release is available.

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13. "wish i could have got a placement on that! haha!"
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Looking forward to it!

We see through all that boo boo like it's ghost shit... (c) Quelle Chris

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14. "Like I posted in GD I wanna see official channels confirm it. If/when it"
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comes out I'll cop.

  

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High Society
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15. "Hov liked the tweets. Just Blaze, Alchemist, Guru all chimed in."
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I actually believe it this time.
Hopefully the done in 40 days and 40 nights thing is either a marketing ploy
or he’s been crafting ideas, gathering beats, doing demos for a long while
and recorded it all in 40 days and 40 nights and it’s not all new material made within that time frame.

Not saying he couldn’t come up with great stuff in 40 days but I don’t want this to
Be a rushed album. We’ve waited this long, I was Just and Guru to have sat with him and exec produced a fuxking classic. The album everyone has always wanted from him.
We’ve waited this long, I want it to deliver in every aspect.
I want NOLA to win! I want this album to be a classic debut talked about like gkmc is talked about when it comes to modern day debut albums.

If that’s the title he’s going with, I still hope he’s using audio clips.
I always loved The Prestige angle he was using.
The Pledge, The Turn, The Prestige. The magic angle, the Tesla angle, all that shit worked for him.

Just tweeted “are you watching closely” maybe we still get some of that.
I’m really hoping for an incredible debut album.

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16. "saw him live, was one of the worst performances i've ever seen"
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lost all respect for him as an artist years ago

yeah i said it




To people like US, a record is a piece of history. A moment in time.
most people don't get it.

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High Society
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17. "album now featuring Hov (in costarring role)???"
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Ala Ghostface on Only Built...
Word is Jay doesn’t have just a feature but multiple songs with Hov.
If Hov is involved, that means Guru is involved.
If Jay Elect is involved, that means Just is PROBABLY involved.

Both have said it’s coming, I trust both of them.
They also know world wants to hear a Jay Elect solo album...
so if Hov is involved in some sort of costarring role...
I believe we can trust them to still deliver us a Jay Elect solo album
and this won’t be overshadowed by Hov / won’t be looked at a COLLAB album ala Watch the Throne.

I have confidence that there will be some sort of conceptual theme or narrative that allows Hov to be featured some what prominently and still be a Jay Elect solo LP.

We don’t knock Raekwon for having Ghost costar on his solo album, we still call it a Rae solo album... right?

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18. "cmon b"
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jay & jay do not have a fraction of the chemistry Rae & Ghost had on that album.

if dude doesnt come out with a full fledged solo it's forever over for him

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19. "Shrug. I think the idea sounds really cool"
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20. "Some people do work better as a group than as a solo performer"
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Maybe Jay Elec needed an accountability partner for motivation?

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High Society
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21. "I’m just using that as the example..."
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Rae debut solo has Ghost on most of the songs, we still consider it a Rae solo.

Jay Electronica and Jay have Shiny Suit Theory and We Made It together.
Both really good songs because Jay Elect pulled out 2 incredible verses from Hov that took him out of his comfort zone.
Maybe Jay Electronica needs a partner to deliver a full LP.
Thundercat wanted to put his album together with Flying Lotus’ LP to make a double LP.
Maybe Hov is inspired by what music Jay Elect has delivered on the LP
and wants to be a part of it...

Who knows...

Rae & Ghost have more chemistry together than some hip hop duos that started out as duos which we all know they did not.

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22. "Jay Elec and Jay Z make dope collabs esp We Made It"
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23. "20 days to go"
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let's see...

  

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24. "19 days to go"
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27. "18 days to go"
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28. "17 days to go"
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___________________________
He has the confidence of Vernon Maxwell on a yayo binge.

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25. "I love the energy in this performance"
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https://youtu.be/7r8kS9g1Kx8

Young Black & Gifted
We Made It
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30. "Jay-Z Rapping - Jay-E yelling"
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Couldn't finish this ...


Jay Electronic just yelling the whole time .....


werd.

  

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31. "RE: Jay-Z Rapping - Jay-E yelling"
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He doesn't have on IEMs Jay does

  

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35. "RE: Jay-Z was calm and Jay Elec was hype. Good show"
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You should have kept watching. Ended strong.

I also haven’t seen Jay enthusiastically playing the hype man role for almost an entire set before. He knew Jay Elec’s lyrics like the back of his hand. Pretty cool.

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26. "who did the beats?"
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29. "RE: this is what i want to know"
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if not just, then... far out

  

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32. "They release albums on Wednesday now?"
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High Society
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33. "this is what I said when first read tweet."
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But pretty sure Ive seen people put out FULL albums on random days on streaming, it’s extremely uncommon but been done.

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34. "I'm guessing a Tidal exclusive for a couple days?"
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I figure a lot of people are gonna wanna go wherever when it drops.

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38. "From Young Guru's IG"
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https://www.instagram.com/p/B9klh3jF6D2/


I think it's dropping next week

  

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39. "RE: From Young Guru's IG"
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This pic got me officially excited. Damn..it’s actually happening and being mixed.

  

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40. "STOP UPPING THIS SPAMMY GARBAGE!!!"
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This album does not and has never existed. Only morons think this is EVER dropping.



Please stop!!

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41. "gonna be weird listening to an album that doesn't exist"
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at the 3 album listening parties

https://twitter.com/tidal/status/1237574357590794240?s=21

It’s time. We're giving @JayElectronica
fans an exclusive first listen of his album 'A Written Testimony' with 3 intimate events in NY, LA, & New Orleans.

RSVP: http://TIDAL.com/JayElectronica

  

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42. "Tidal announces 3 listening parties on March 12 in NO, LA, and NYC"
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https://mobile.twitter.com/tidal/status/1237574357590794240?s=21

The Arabic text says: JAY ELECTRONICA WRITTEN TESTIMONY

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43. "LIES."
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I won't believe this album is coming out until I read the posts on OKP about how they first thought it was a classic but actually it was really disappointing.

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44. "hahaha very fair!"
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47. "Funny because it's true"
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>I won't believe this album is coming out until I read the
>posts on OKP about how they first thought it was a classic but
>actually it was really disappointing.

<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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45. "Tracklist and Cover Art"
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!!!!!!!!

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9pQCMBFtVy/

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46. "Tracklist translated"
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Jay Electronica's A Written Testimony Album Tracklist

1. “The Omnipotent Event”
2. “The Ghost of Soulja Selim”
3. “Blinding” featuring Travis Scott
4. “The Eternal Tale”
5. “The Cosmic Soldier”
6. “The Brilliant Suit Theory” featuring The-Dream
7. “Intensive Flowing”
8. “The Fruits of the Soul”
9. “The Wheel of Ezekiel” featuring The-Dream
10. “Praise Be to God”



  

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48. "Livestreaming"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gplpq10AEc

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Love,
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High Society
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49. "OH YEAH! TOLD YALL."
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this was going to be absolute flames.
no reason to put it out if it wasn't.

Jay Electronica is a god tier emcee.
Jigga and Alchemist. It's official now.

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50. "this shit is OH-SHIT-FFICIAL."
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51. "RE: OH YEAH! TOLD YALL."
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this ig live is crazy

  

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52. "Glad it’s here. Just wanted to hear him spit new stuff "
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Jay’Z’s presence all over this is disappointing and takes away from the experience I was hoping for. Just wanted Jay Elec alone, especially considering its so short.

First Listen thoughts:
Second half of The Blinding is dope.
Universal Soldier is real solid. Jay is annoying on it.
Neverending Story is snoozeville. I really dislike the slow ass drumless tracks.
Flux Capacitor beat, wooooooo! Jay is good on this. Chorus vocals sound goofy. Jay Elec not quite riding the beat proper. Elec is weak on this.
Fruits of the Spirit ain’t got drums but it’s more of what I was hoping for. Short as hell though.
Ezekiel’s Wheel. Goddamn man, Jay-Z stilted stuff gets under my skin. Will be a grower because I like the subtle stuff going on in the background but will need to be in the right mood.
APITDA- ugh, too much Jigga. Im out when I hear him, but pulled back in when Elec gets on. It’s not impressive lyrically but he just has a commanding voice and approach.
Nice vibe on this one. But then it’s over.

Really too much Hov for me. Didn’t need it. Sounds like Jay wanted to put out music but not a full length so he woke Jay Elec up from stasis and got some joints together. These can’t be songs Elec had already had built up waiting to be released.

  

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53. "This Hov experimental album"
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I actually really like it on first listen.

Elect still has it.
Both Jays have a conversational way of spitting and a pen that complements eachother. Still no Rae & Ghost, but def more chemistry than I expected.

Hov almost sounds liberated. He thrives here in a co-pilot role.

Hearing this, you can't help but wonder about the 09 album tho. So much time wasted. I guess every destiny has it's own path, but that project would have really made an impact at the time. Also Just Blaze put his heart and soul in 2 highly anticipated albums that basically never came out (Saigon)? That mustve been devastating.



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54. "Highly disappointed "
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Based off first listen.

- no just blaze
- jay electron doesn’t even carry his own album, seems more like he didn’t know how to finish his album and deal with the hype, and got a great boost from Sean
- for 10 songs, way too many slow meandering drumless tracks
- shiny suit theory, we already got that years ago, with such as short track list you can’t be putting old ass songs in there c’mon

  

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56. "I'm genuinely curious about Just."
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Like dude bought his own studio.....then instantly stopped making music for the most part.

I'm sure having a child plays a big part in that and I won't disrespect that....but dude really only shows up for 1 or 2 songs per year for the last decade, that's crazy to me.

Does no one hit Just up?
Is his price too high?
Does Just Just turn down everything?
Is there just a billion songs chilling on a hard drive doing nothing?

....that said, Just's batting average is crazy high. The few songs he's done have been the standout on whatever project it's on.

I get quality over quantity....but come on.

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65. "ive been there"
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>Like dude bought his own studio.....then instantly stopped
>making music for the most part.

me and the wife, we were doing yoga all the time. 3-4 times a week. consistently.
we were just using the mats at the yoga studio, but feeling like, hey this seems like something we're into now, we're staying on it, feeling good - lets buy our own mats.

literally never did yoga again

  

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71. "this made me laugh out loud"
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a perfect analysis that is at the same time EXACTLY what happened, and yet SO FAR AWAY from the scale of what Just did.

Thanks man

  

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rmcphedr
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57. "RE: Highly disappointed "
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we here ><

of course he can rap, but these beats ain't it. this is like a 6/10 at best, which is just trash after 10 years.

  

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55. "Off first listen it sounds like Electronica wasn't gonna do anything."
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...and Hov locked him in for a week and got it done.

That said it sounds great for an album that sounds like it was done in a week lol. Plus it's dope to hear Jay & Jay over Alchemist & Arrabmusik....2 producers that I didn't think I'd ever hear Hov over.

Only gripe I got so far is I would've loved a couple more songs....since there's only really 7 joints.

Everything really just speeds by.

Kinda hope that one of the two drop another record this year...I doubt there's gonna be some huge tour or anything behind it.

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60. "sounds like JE took about 35 of those last 40 days off"
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58. "Electronica is an accessory here, Hov as inspired as ever"
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probably a hard pill for some of you to swallow, but Electronica gets bodied on almost all of this. Meanwhile, we find Jay-Z as focused and colorful as he was on 4:44 - such a thrill to hear him like this ("Flux Capacitor" for example)

These are two rappers in different classes. Like Lebron looking at JR Smith for clutch plays. Not the same type creatures.

  

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59. "I was right. Jay Electronica didn't drop an album"
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This obviously does not count.

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62. "Yeah I'm still hoping for the rest of Act II to leak some day"
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61. "I’m listening now. Flame emojis so far!!"
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Peace,

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63. "just makes me want to go listen to old Jay elec tbh"
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64. "its dope"
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i havent been waiting for the album to drop so i guess my expectations werent as high as others. definitely understand people not being happy that is a collab album but was being promoted as his solo album. i guess its a jay elec album like the chronic is a dre album?

i like it though. 5/5 on first listen. not sure it would be a fav of all time album for me but i have no complaints.

  

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66. "melodramatic farrakhan (in 2020?) intro, very dope last song."
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this album is like his career in reverse. lol

he started bubbling over ten years with dope songs and concepts. had a 'whateva' period while hanging out with celebs that gentrified his space and released pretty much nothing. finished (so far) with a head scratch of an album.
all in all not bad at all but kinda whatever, too.
and yes, it may not be fair, but expectations do play a role...
can't be mad at the drumless joints if you paid attention to dude. act 1 anyone?
his 'NOI Killah Priest' vibe over that khruangbin song pretty much replicates his strongest efforts. shit that gives you a certain mystic/esoteric vibe with some sharp and introspective bars.

i really like jay elec as a rapper and wish he would release more...


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67. "Shit...I like it. Hov killed it too. Neverending is my shit!"
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We see through all that boo boo like it's ghost shit... (c) Quelle Chris

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68. "I enjoyed it... Never thought I'd hear Hov on a lo-fi beat"
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Can't really say if it lives up to a ~13 year hype but I gotta sit with it. It's wild to think about listening to Act 1 on this same forum in 2007.

  

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69. "Yall bugging, this is nothing but great. "
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I mean, I guess the secret to enjoying it is I stopped waiting for this about like a decade ago, so receiving it now is like a surprise out of nowwhere as oppose to having to meet 13 year expectations.

This album has the first Jay-Z lyrics that actually touched me emotionally. I definitely got numbers in my phone that will never ring again...

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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70. "Top tier songwriting throughout"
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This record is the logical extension of Act One to me.

Not sure what everyone was expecting, but this is the cerebral music I was waiting for from Jay Elec. He is remarkably consistent with his sonic choices too. If you were a Day One fan, can't see how this would do anything other than check all the boxes for you...

Salute to Jay-Z for meshing perfectly with the vibe throughout too...

The last song is classic heartfelt rap.

Can't wait to give this more spins and soak it in.

  

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142. "RE: Top tier songwriting throughout"
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^^^^^
All this

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72. "I think it's awesome too"
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in this current cilmate, where everything sounds so 808s heavy and similar, it's jarring at first to hear something like this

  

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73. "Wow, you guys are such miserable sacks of dogshit. "
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Just hateful people on all fronts.

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75. "damn...that was a good ass opinion on the music bruh"
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82. "Appreciate that...I try to set an example"
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74. "I renounce all previous statements. This fire."
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This was a head scratcher at first, but I think I'm falling in love with this. It was strange to have his debut feature Jay Z so heavily but I'm all for it now. There has always been something a little out there about Jay Electronic so the whole vibe and structure is right up his alley.


This album is good.


I have spoken.

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76. "It's definitely a grower."
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Once you get past the first listen and make peace with whatever expectations you have and listen for the second time...

It's sounding pretty damn good.

I also imagine if/when this gets a physical copy it's gonna sound even better sonically too.

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85. "I can’t wait to get either lossless or a CD"
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I feel like Jay Elec and Guru probably snuck all kinds of random shit into the mix that I’m not hearing on a fricking Spotify stream

Can’t wait to cop a better quality version of this

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77. "zero expectations because I never cared.......I like this"
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I personally could never really get my hopes up because I’d heard so little. I enjoyed the jokes, but he wasn’t someone I was waiting on and it made no difference to me if he put out music or not. That said, I know he’s got talent and I’m intrigued now that he actually dropped and I’m bored as hell with this social distancing thing so....copped.

Definitely will give more listens and absorb it more, but on first listen the bars are sharp and I like the production.

Fruits of The Spirit and Ezekiel’s Wheel are my early favorites. What a 1-2 punch at the end of the album. A.P.I.D.T.A is a poignant album closer. And as a “Main Ingredient is the best album of all time” guy I really enjoyed Shiny Suit Theory.

  

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78. "Jay Z FINALLY cosigns abstract hip hop...and now..everybody gonna.."
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well.....you already know whats next.

HAHA.

Not mad tho.

At least I will like it.

  

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79. "oh..and I hope MACH is next up!"
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80. "I dunno I'm bored with this."
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But that's only one listen in. Where the fuckin drums.

I think upon repeat listens it'll grow on me cuz I liked a lot of what I heard from The Jays lyrically. Especially the theme of the last song.

But damn them beats is boring as fuck.

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87. "with ya"
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I want to love it. I do.

But then I put on that Blu and Damu album (Ground and Water) right after, and I was like, wow, this is SO MUCH BETTER.

Don't get me wrong, the JAY E-Z album is nice, but it's not a repeat banger for me.


werd.

  

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88. "this is a “headphones on, sitting in the recliner in the evening” al..."
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I feel like I’ve been on house arrest for like a year(when ultimately I’ve just been home 99% of the time since Thursday), and have played music almost constantly. I’m going for that Jadakiss more than this. I’ve finally given Rapsody-Eve a real shot and have been playing that a ton. I’m even listening to an old album like L.E.G.A.C.Y. - Project Mayhem a lot....even though it’s new and I like it - this Jay isn’t one I find myself reaching for a lot - but that’s ok. It’s just not that type of album where you reach for it all the time. It’s still a strong piece of work IMO.

  

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81. "Ezekiel's Wheel on repeat"
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83. "RE: jay electronica ALBUM DONE"
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my fave jay-z project

and jay elect came through with the raps

hope they make it available on wax

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84. "https://awrittentestimony.com/"
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91. "went here to cop the physical. thanks for the link!"
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Peace,

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86. "RE: HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA"
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this album could've been great but dude's lack of focus seems to always be his downfall. I tried to tell y'all ten years ago this would happen, but I sure as hell didn't see the "Jay-Z feat. Jay Electronica" thing happening.

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89. "i like it a lot"
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JE's always been a bit here or there for me so no overwhelming anticipation to let down... maybe that's best? It's not a masterpiece but it's pretty solid from start to finish and JE has some really great moments.

Jay-Z is on point throughout the whole thing (even better than his last album, which got too much praise but was definitely his best work in a long time) -- he might come off looking better here but it feels like a genuine collaborative effort, which is refreshing. And it's cool to hear him over a different production style than we'd normally get - I'd take a whole Jay-Z solo record along these lines with the mix a bit cleaned up.

I could live w/out the NoI emphasis but that's more personal than anything - harder and harder to rationalize/tolerate "chosen people" rhetoric as I grow older regardless of the source. But that's definitely where a lot of JE's more inspired wordplay comes from so I'll take it, lol.

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90. "Some of these Beats remind me of some MF DOOM shit"
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which is always a good thing.

First listen highly enjoyed, Jay-Z kinda overshadows Elec at times but it's still a good album.

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92. "May all my haters hit they knees and throw up in the toilet (c) Jay Elec..."
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You are retarded if you support the viewpoints:

- Jay Elect got “bodied” on this album
- Complaining about drum less tracks knowing that he has tracks like that in times past.
- Complaining about Jay-Z being on the entire album (y’all should’ve just put several albums together of his old music)
- Thinking that he owed y’all more than 10 songs

No matter what he would’ve done you average minded listeners would find something to complain about. It’s somewhat understandable that folks would act like this seeing that there has never been an artist with this much mystique, hype, and aura ever in hip hop. Especially since it’s been 13 years when he first released Act 1. He gave you guys actually what any listener of music wants, a heartfelt and solid project that comes from the soul. Too bad some listeners don’t have one.

  

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94. "RE: May all my haters hit they knees and throw up in the toilet (c) Jay ..."
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>No matter what he would’ve done you average minded listeners
>would find something to complain about.

This has been hip bopper's PSA to remind you that they do, in fact, think they're a better listener than you. And if you're wondering just how average-minded a listener hip bopper thinks you are...

https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=3021131&mesg_id=3021131&listing_type=search#3021200

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95. "^^^ thanks for pointing out that this is the same clown."
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>>No matter what he would’ve done you average minded
>listeners
>>would find something to complain about.
>
>This has been hip bopper's PSA to remind you that they do, in
>fact, think they're a better listener than you. And if you're
>wondering just how average-minded a listener hip bopper thinks
>you are...
>
>https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=3021131&mesg_id=3021131&listing_type=search#3021200
>
>-thebigfunk
>
>~ i could still snort you under the table ~

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97. "Estupido #2"
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Take his johnson out of your throat so that we can understand you.

  

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100. "You heard any of the Roots' music yet or ... ?"
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You still just planning to blindly crown it the best music ever ?

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112. "So glad you took their dick out ya mouth."
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>You still just planning to blindly crown it the best music
>ever ?

I can understand you now that you are addressing me directly.

I don’t blindly do anything. When I hear good positive music there’s no denying it. Maybe you should take yours off so that you can stop being deaf, dumb, and blind.

  

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114. "Why are you lying."
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>I don’t blindly do anything.

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115. "I don’t have to do that with your dumb ass."
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Nor do I have to prove any beliefs of this or other projects to you. Let this be our last conversation.

  

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116. "Bye bitch."
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>Nor do I have to prove any beliefs of this or other projects
>to you. Let this be our last conversation.

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hip bopper
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122. "RE: Bye bitch."
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Your moms is not in this post... but yeah.

  

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124. ""LeT tHiS bE oUr LaSt CoNvErSaTiOn" ©"
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126. "Right so your dumb ass shouldn’t have replied."
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128. "Just trying to be courtous. Bye bitch !"
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96. "Estupido #1"
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Thanks for joining the convo.

  

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99. "have you listened to any other new hip hop yet?"
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Little Brother?
Skyzoo/Pete Rock?
How about Rapsody?

If so.....thoughts?

  

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111. "RE: have you listened to any other new hip hop yet?"
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>Little Brother?
>Skyzoo/Pete Rock?
>How about Rapsody?
>
>If so.....thoughts?

No I haven’t... I never got a chance because of all of the other music that I have been listening to between then and now. There was no way that I would let this album pass me by though. The only other rap record I’ll check out soon is that Shabazz Palaces when it drops next month. Outside of that I won’t be checking out too much on the rap side of things.

  

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125. "LB and Skyzoo/Pete are like 35-45 minutes!"
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This isn’t the 22 tracks, 85 minute album era.

I guess my point and feeling is, there’s an awful lot of quality rap music being made. This Jay Electronica album is good IMO, but it’s not the best album in years or anything.

  

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127. "RE: LB and Skyzoo/Pete are like 35-45 minutes!"
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>This isn’t the 22 tracks, 85 minute album era.
>
>I guess my point and feeling is, there’s an awful lot of
>quality rap music being made. This Jay Electronica album is
>good IMO, but it’s not the best album in years or anything.

I will check them out... just going to enjoy this Elect until Shabazz drops.

I think the album is excellent. It’s spiritual music with a lot of self-reflection, and very little profanity. This is something that I can play around young children.

  

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129. "Sus."
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>This is
>something that I can play around young children.

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131. "Look lil bitch"
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Do you have an obsession with me?

  

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93. "Where are all the drums?"
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meh.

  

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98. "masterpiece"
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This is special. Not taking anything from anyone who doesn't like this, but every time it ends I just want to start it again.

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101. "very nice album...unbelievable hov is still making such powerful project..."
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so late in his career

Also i don't get the complaints about the drumless tracks...there's like what, 2-3 of them?


and electricity is still a clown for waiting 10 years to drop some music

  

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104. "LOL - yea that's nearly half the album bruh."
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Full disclosure I'm of the belief that ONE drumless track is too many but that's a personal thing. But I also know I'm not alone.


>Also i don't get the complaints about the drumless
>tracks...there's like what, 2-3 of them?

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102. "elec's lyricism is pretty lacking here IMO"
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i mean anyone is gonna have a tough time sharing an album with Hov, but he just felt very clunky w the rhymes - there's really not much here thats up to par with the shit that got everyone hyped for his debut 10+ years ago

  

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103. "I felt the same way. Also a lot of similar rhyme patterns and verbal cru..."
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It all felt too familiar.

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105. "Question for the floor then."
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Any songs where Elec has a better verse than Hov does? (not counting the solo songs of course)

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106. "RE: elec's lyricism is pretty lacking here IMO"
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Truth...damn I wanna big up this brother, but he just isn't as sharp as I remember...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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107. "Album is unbelievably ass"
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Fortunate for him, he has built such a mystique that there are fans that will love anything he does.

But honestly, every single thing about this album is trash.

Let’s start with what the expectations for this album are. Jay Elec was praised as the next Nas...or whatever you want to call it. Exhibit C had him prepped to be one of the greats period. Crazy production, unique rhyme cadence, fresh phrasing, uncut hip-hop shit. That was what, over a decade ago? It would be one thing if he completely vanished but he kept popping up with legends, talks about various deals, entire album rumored to be laced by Just Blaze...and so on and so on.

So now here we are with him not being an afterthought but still an extremely hyped artist with co-signs from the greats.

And this, THIS, is the debut album he gives us?

Even if it is decent, you can’t let this mafucka slide with this...this?

10 verses?

Jay-Z on all but one track?

Lazy ass elementary production, half with no drums?

At least two with insanely identifiable samples?

Under 40 minutes?

Absolutely 0 energy or range of emotion or topics from track to track?

Did I mention Jay was on every song?

Did I mention Jay showed him up on every song and even Jay was basic and lazy as fuck with his new found “look at me I finally read a book at age 50” fake ass deep shit.

This shit is utter trash and y’all should be ashamed for even thinking to half respect this shit.

It’s like Lebron skipped college but instead of going to the league, just hung out with all-stars, played a couple pick up games at Team USA tryouts, then at age 30 decided to sign with the a team only to get bounced in the first round of the playoffs while averaging 15 points a game.

Fuck out of here with this bullshit.

  

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109. "lol calm down man...its dope"
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And even if you don't think so, looks like most people do so...?


Either way, you really need to take a deep breath. That was...a lot.

  

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113. "It really not though"
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And if I would’ve just typed that it sucks then y’all would’ve said to explain...

*shrugs*

  

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117. "You have the new coronavirus. Self-quarantine and call your provider."
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Either that, or on drugs


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120. "My first album had all famous guest appearances..."
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The outcome, I’m clowned suspect lyricist

  

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108. "God, I wish he would've just put out the tracklist he leaked"
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The Act II tracklist for 2012 that he teased would've have suited him way better than this.

https://i0.wp.com/true-magazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Jay-Electronica-Act-2-Patents-Of-Nobility-Tracklist.jpg

The eight songs that have been released/leaked from this shit (Patents Of Nobility, @FatBellyBella, Shiny Shuit Theory, Memories & Merlot, Better In Tune..., Letter To Falon, Road To Perdition, Run & Hide) plus Neverending Story & Ghost Of Soulja Slim would've been a great project.

I wanna hear whatever he was working on with Just Blaze (Exhibit A, Exhibit C, Dear Moleskine, etc.)

idk man...i'm disappointed. the writing is not my biggest grip, there were some fantastic verses on here, but the production (especially Elect's) was meh as hell

  

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110. ""Call of Duty" was dope too"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2_iJrJ1QUY

  

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119. "RE: I really hope Dear Moleskin gets released one day"
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cause that is leaps and bounds better than anything on here

  

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153. "You probably would find something to dislike about that too LOL"
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Just put together your own Jay Elec album out of the scores of loosies he has dropped over the past 15 years or so.

Peace,

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156. "Lol@ scores"
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Try, less than a score. Maybe 10 and of those half, the song is an intro there's a dope verse somewhere and somehow the outro is a full 40 seconds long.

This is coming from someone who loves the album btw. His musical output over the last 10 years is part of the reason I think this is the perfect debut album. The album continues his history of mercurial behavior.

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118. "I can't figure out what people want if they DON'T want this"
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aesthetically and lyrically, it's so unlike anything else we're presented with lately...and yet, there's people rejecting it with glee. SMH

  

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121. "Y’all can’t be fucking serious"
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123. "Folks are just plain retarded..."
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The 85’ers will always be that.

  

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130. "says the guy using the word “retarded” in 2020"
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152. "^^^ must’ve been offended ^^^"
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132. "These threads are becoming too predictable"
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This is turning into another album discussion thread (see: Royce - The Allegory) where some people say they aren't feeling it, Anonymous even gives a pretty detailed response covering what he doesn't like about it, and the thread explodes with bickering by people who like it but just can't accept that not everyone has the same tastes, and rather than actually discuss the music and say what they like about it, set up their soap box and call other people wrong.

I'd venture to guess some were giving their "thoughts" before even listening to the damn album.

  

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133. "Agreed"
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*shrugs*

  

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141. "LMFAO.....what the poster said is EXACTLY what YOU do...lol"
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I be seeing you go back and forth with MAD people, tossing insults and not discussing shit.

FOH with that "above it all" bs.

  

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143. "That’s odd..."
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He named me as the one discussing the album.

I’m simple, I discuss with those I respect and at times (waaaaaaay less than I used to) I go back and forth with idiots like Orbit to kill some time.

I respond to posters the way they post.

I really haven’t even been on okayplayer for a while though:

But whenever you want to discuss this album...go ahead

Because it seems you just engaged in what you were accusing me of.

*shrugs*

  

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134. "We may be at an impasse"
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I think the internet has proven over the past few years that discussion kinda doesn't matter. Especially with something as subjective as music. If I like something or don't no one else's opinion really matters. No matter how many angry paragraphs a person writes it won't increase my enjoyment and vis versa. Me, I love this album, but I'm not sure how going into how I felt Jay Electronica brought Jay Z into his world (almost changed him into another super spiritual rhyme clone) is the most Jay Electronica thing he could possibly do means anything to anyone anymore.

The logic that people feel is inherent to their tastes is an illusion. We all just like what we like, and don't like what we don't like. We can explain why, but at the end of the day my logic may not make sense to someone else. Does that make me wrong for liking it, no. Does it mean I can't communicate why I like it very well, maybe, but even if I communicated it perfectly it doesn't mean that other people not have to agree.

I guess I'm just saying what is the point of all this. Why are we even here right now?

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135. "LOL nah it's definitely true."
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I've said something similar here before; that I think we are sort of (whether by nature or nurture, or both) kind of predisposed to being attracted to certain types of music. And so to your point, anyone else's opposite opinion of a piece of music one way or the other isn't necessarily going to lead to you reconsidering your feelings about that particular album/song/artist/whatever.

BUT I do think nuanced discussion can lead to *slight* changes in how you feel about a piece of art, if someone presents a perspective that you may not have picked up on or considered when you were listening. For example, what you said below re: JayE bringing JayZ into his world makes me want to listen again to see if I can identify that same vibe and if so, make me appreciate the album more.

So if nothing else, a nuanced take on a piece of art can lead to a revisitation of said art with a "different" set of eyes. Something may click, it may not. But it's worth discussing IMO. Otherwise like you said, why the hell are we here !

But all that said, ultimately you enjoy it or you don't. And so even if I pick up on that perspective you mentioned, I may still not *enjoy* the album all that much and therefore it's whatever. BUT, upon repeat listens to explore your perspective for myself, I may find that it sounds WAY better on 2nd and 3rd and 4th listen than it did on the first, therefore making your contributions worthwhile and meaningful.


>I think the internet has proven over the past few years that
>discussion kinda doesn't matter. Especially with something as
>subjective as music. If I like something or don't no one
>else's opinion really matters. No matter how many angry
>paragraphs a person writes it won't increase my enjoyment and
>vis versa. Me, I love this album, but I'm not sure how going
>into how I felt Jay Electronica brought Jay Z into his world
>(almost changed him into another super spiritual rhyme clone)
>is the most Jay Electronica thing he could possibly do means
>anything to anyone anymore.
>
>The logic that people feel is inherent to their tastes is an
>illusion. We all just like what we like, and don't like what
>we don't like. We can explain why, but at the end of the day
>my logic may not make sense to someone else. Does that make me
>wrong for liking it, no. Does it mean I can't communicate why
>I like it very well, maybe, but even if I communicated it
>perfectly it doesn't mean that other people not have to
>agree.
>
>I guess I'm just saying what is the point of all this. Why are
>we even here right now?

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136. "RE: LOL nah it's definitely true."
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It seems we cant all just agree to disagree without being disagreeable.

That said, I'm feeling The Blinding as a highlight more that some it seems. I thought he had a level of energy and truth that felt like vintage JayE.
Lines like "tell it to my bank account or say it to the dice" explained his whole saga to me. I understood why it took 13yrs, Dude is dope but undisciplined.

I'm glad it came out and like a lot of it. My disappointment is mostly around my feeling that JayZ had to drag him into the booth to get this completed, like he had more passion and things to say at times.

The inclusion of Shiny Suit Theory felt like a low point. I like that cut generally but why retread when its one of only 9 tracks with actual verses and you have other good to great released tracks. If you and Jay wanted another track together get in the damn booth!

I do think JayZ more than held up his end. There was more than a bit of that old "young Jay" "You know who the f___ I am? Don't disrespect me" that I personally enjoy. Jay will always be able to fall back on being dope at boasting because he continues to win at life in ways so few rappers actually are.

All in all, can recommend his one, especially for fans of either.

respect,
bc

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137. "All of this"
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>I think the internet has proven over the past few years that
>discussion kinda doesn't matter. Especially with something as
>subjective as music. If I like something or don't no one
>else's opinion really matters. No matter how many angry
>paragraphs a person writes it won't increase my enjoyment and
>vis versa.

Thankfully this board is better than most social media spaces so we do generally have more in-depth and nuanced conversations.

That being said, most of us are in our thirties and forties. We ought to be able to talk about music and not get personal.

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138. "RE: These threads are becoming too predictable"
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>and the thread
>explodes with bickering by people who like it but just can't
>accept that not everyone has the same tastes, and rather than
>actually discuss the music and say what they like about it,
>set up their soap box and call other people wrong.

I've been thinking a lot about this predictability lately, as you put it. My internet access is patchy right now but will come back for deeper dive, but suffice to say that the stalemate is real, for both those who like artist/album/song X and those that dislike X... and while I don't think it's a *new* issue and has deeper roots in how we relate to art and each other more generally, I do think there are some peculiarities with our current cultural moment that exacerbate our worst/shallowest tendencies when we try to talk about music (and art more generally).

There are no easy solutions but there are a few key acknowledgments that can help:

1) Recognize that my viewpoint does not automatically preclude the possibility of other viewpoints. This does not change just because something really, really, really moves me to love or hate. I can love something, and someone else can hate it, and neither perspective is inherently a reflection of the quality of the listener and their taste.

2) Recognize that although discussion re: music varies in purpose and quality, my goal should not be persuasive or competitive in nature but rather a sharing of experience and viewpoints. I benefit from learning why you like X and vice versa. I benefit, too, from hearing how you approach music more generally, whether that involves technical musical detail, emotional resonance, or personal stories. The goal, if we can reduce discussion to one goal, should be an augmentation of appreciation and understanding. Argumentation, when held in the right spirit, can help achieve that goal -- but it can also quickly narrow and shrink the possibilities of a conversation to their shallowest point.

3) There is no right way to approach music -- but there is a technical language involving music that, as with any domain of skill and knowledge, can help us build a particular type of understanding of music as music (so far as that may be a possibility). We should not be fooled into thinking that music theory or related ways of analyzing music are objective; they are not. They do, however, provide a means for talking about music using a shared language close to the subject itself - a language, in other words, that is not objective but not wholly subjective, either, and thus has a type of usefulness that the absolutely subjective may not. (I am speaking here of objectivity and subjectivity in relative terms - neither is ever purely one or the other.)

4) Following #3, the more we can talk about music with an eye toward the music, the better foundation we build for conversations that are actually productive - for we at least share a set of terms that we can use to understand each other and the music itself. But because "music itself" is a non-existent thing - because the artist, culture, context is inseparable from the music - our understanding of what it means to talk about music as music must necessarily be capacious. If we negotiate these contradictions with generosity and imagination, what it means to talk about music as music will likely be something entirely different from what we expect or assume it should be... and it will be all the more enriching as a result.
----
Have to go - but I have at least one more mini-sermon on humility to include here --- so will return!


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139. "This is great."
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>>and the thread
>>explodes with bickering by people who like it but just can't
>>accept that not everyone has the same tastes, and rather
>than
>>actually discuss the music and say what they like about it,
>>set up their soap box and call other people wrong.
>
>I've been thinking a lot about this predictability lately, as
>you put it. My internet access is patchy right now but will
>come back for deeper dive, but suffice to say that the
>stalemate is real, for both those who like artist/album/song X
>and those that dislike X... and while I don't think it's a
>*new* issue and has deeper roots in how we relate to art and
>each other more generally, I do think there are some
>peculiarities with our current cultural moment that exacerbate
>our worst/shallowest tendencies when we try to talk about
>music (and art more generally).
>
>There are no easy solutions but there are a few key
>acknowledgments that can help:
>
>1) Recognize that my viewpoint does not automatically preclude
>the possibility of other viewpoints. This does not change just
>because something really, really, really moves me to love or
>hate. I can love something, and someone else can hate it, and
>neither perspective is inherently a reflection of the quality
>of the listener and their taste.
>
>2) Recognize that although discussion re: music varies in
>purpose and quality, my goal should not be persuasive or
>competitive in nature but rather a sharing of experience and
>viewpoints. I benefit from learning why you like X and vice
>versa. I benefit, too, from hearing how you approach music
>more generally, whether that involves technical musical
>detail, emotional resonance, or personal stories. The goal, if
>we can reduce discussion to one goal, should be an
>augmentation of appreciation and understanding. Argumentation,
>when held in the right spirit, can help achieve that goal --
>but it can also quickly narrow and shrink the possibilities of
>a conversation to their shallowest point.
>
>3) There is no right way to approach music -- but there is a
>technical language involving music that, as with any domain of
>skill and knowledge, can help us build a particular type of
>understanding of music as music (so far as that may be a
>possibility). We should not be fooled into thinking that music
>theory or related ways of analyzing music are objective; they
>are not. They do, however, provide a means for talking about
>music using a shared language close to the subject itself - a
>language, in other words, that is not objective but not wholly
>subjective, either, and thus has a type of usefulness that the
>absolutely subjective may not. (I am speaking here of
>objectivity and subjectivity in relative terms - neither is
>ever purely one or the other.)
>
>4) Following #3, the more we can talk about music with an eye
>toward the music, the better foundation we build for
>conversations that are actually productive - for we at least
>share a set of terms that we can use to understand each other
>and the music itself. But because "music itself" is a
>non-existent thing - because the artist, culture, context is
>inseparable from the music - our understanding of what it
>means to talk about music as music must necessarily be
>capacious. If we negotiate these contradictions with
>generosity and imagination, what it means to talk about music
>as music will likely be something entirely different from what
>we expect or assume it should be... and it will be all the
>more enriching as a result.
>----
>Have to go - but I have at least one more mini-sermon on
>humility to include here --- so will return!
>
>
>-thebigfunk
>
>~ i could still snort you under the table ~

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140. "!!!!!!!Hand claps!!!!!!!!!"
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Wow. Great points all around. I don't get mad about other people's opinions. But I had stopped caring about them and have started to feel a reluctance to even share my own recently. You have made me think of things a bit differently. There is possibly value in understanding why people like or don't like music even though it doesn't change how I feel about it, that's not the point.

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144. "Well said"
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This needs to be anchored.

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145. "Rule #1: don't be a miserable, mad piece of shit. And a nerd to boot."
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That's the problem with music "discussion"

To many people with bad breadth and bad credit,
who come on here and dump on rappers because of it

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146. "Fam."
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157. "yes. sports discussion is so much better"
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lol


you missed out on the GOAT days of the Lesson



sorry broski

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147. "It's the perfect album for RN"
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I love it. Man, it was perfect working on art at 1am. Fucking perfect.

The people that dislike it don't dislike it because of what it is. They dislike it because it is not what they wanted. That is ALL THEIR CRITICISM. So they aren't even truly listening.

  

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Anonymous
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148. "You’re right...I wanted a dope album...this is not that"
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Period.

  

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cheesecake
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149. "Lol"
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Orbit_Established
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150. "See: You're just a hater. What was smart about that?"
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You are a miserable hater
This is why I post the way I post

Y'all are clown ass haters and then mad when I play

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray,

  

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151. "Needy ass fans"
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155. "Lol"
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You’re right...I need dope music. I’ll go elsewhere

  

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154. "This fan made Jay Elec video is pretty good (link)"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6kY1kbuXd0&list=PLLxCCm7TTViqqCxxfz7NXrMtDw2FU10o6&index=2

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
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rhymesandammo
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158. "Chiming in..."
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Hated it.

I still like "Shiny Suit Theory", although it's obvious Hov and Jay did not record in the same room when they did that joint. Hov still sounds muddy as all hell. You'd think maybe they would try to give that joint a new mix for this album but NOPE.

The only new joint on the album I liked was the outro. Jay E's last verse about his mother was very potent and exposed how little thought he put into a lot of the other verses on this album. I hate to say it, but Jay Elec would have probably been better served never dropping this and living off the mythos that he is the greatest emcee to never drop a proper album. Instead, now, he's just a guy amongst many other meat-and-potatoes rappers.

There are some joints on here that at least musically evoke the feeling those Jay Elec joints from 2007-2011 were going for: "The Neverending Story" and "Fruit of the Spirit" but I felt the bars just weren't hitting for me on the level of some of those older joints.

Some stuff on here, like "Flux Capacitor", "Ezekiel’s Wheel" and "Universal Soldier" are just bad to me. Can't get down with those at all from the beats to the rhymes.

So, yeah. Pretty let down by all of this. And Jay-Z cosplaying as NOI does absolutely nothing for me. Glad that at least some of you guys enjoy this thing but after sitting with it for a while I just can't help but feel like this was a missed opportunity.

Esteemed author of the celebrated, double-platinum post: "Drake - Wu-Tang Forever".

  

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seemenomore
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159. "Great Job Guys"
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I really enjoy it.

  

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