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"Royce Da 5’9 - The Allegory (2020)"


  

          

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https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/e9gtgx/royce_da_59_announces_new_music_the_allegory/

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Release Date: 1/24/2020

Tracklist:
1. Mr. Grace

2. Dope Man

3. I Don't Age

4. Pendulum (ft. Ashley Sorrell)

5. I Play Forever (ft. Grafh)

6. Ice Cream (Interlude)

7. The Block (ft. Oswin Benjamin)

8. A Generation Is Broken

9. Over Comer (ft. Westside Gunn)

10. Ms Grace (Interlude)

11. Thou Shall (ft. Kid Vishis)

12. FUBU (ft. Conway the Machine)

13. A Black Man's Favorite Shoe

14. Upside Down (ft. Ashley Sorrell & Benny the Butcher)

15. Perspective

16. Tricked (ft. KXNG Crooked)

17. Black People In America

18. Black Savage (ft. Sy Ari Da Kid, White Gold, CyHi the Prynce & T.I.)

19. Rhinestone Doo Rag

20. Young World (ft. YBN Cordae & G Perico)

21. My People Free (ft. Ashley Sorrell)

22. Hero (ft. White Gold)

  

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Hell yea. Book of Ryan top 5 2018.
Dec 12th 2019
1
rare exception where ill disagree on a new album being too long
Dec 12th 2019
2
I hope this gives him his moment and puts him in GOAT status convos.
Dec 12th 2019
3
I believe he's handling most of if not all of the production
Dec 12th 2019
4
If it all sounds as good as "Black Savage" I'm for it.
Dec 12th 2019
5
he produced field negro too right?
Dec 12th 2019
7
Yep and production tutors are Preemo, Nottz, bink! & Mr Porter
Dec 19th 2019
22
Binkkkkkkk that's so dope.
Dec 19th 2019
23
RE: Yep and production tutors are Preemo, Nottz, bink! & Mr Porter
Dec 19th 2019
24
      Damn - that would be tuff!
Dec 19th 2019
25
on first listen im not feeling the production overall
Feb 21st 2020
52
      Think I agree. He's rapping his ass off tho.
Feb 21st 2020
54
           he most definitely is
Feb 21st 2020
59
                Same.
Feb 21st 2020
62
Royce is...Man I Can't Say Enough about Lyricism....
Dec 12th 2019
6
**scratches neck*** got any more of those premo colabs ????
Dec 13th 2019
8
LOL
Dec 13th 2019
11
Royce produced the whole album...looking forward to this...
Dec 13th 2019
9
i need another Elzhi collabo
Dec 13th 2019
10
Same. They rap well together.
Dec 13th 2019
12
RE: i need another Elzhi collabo
Dec 19th 2019
26
I like that Royce got Griselda on different songs
Dec 15th 2019
13
I still bang B.O.R. like it just came out...very amped about this
Dec 15th 2019
14
and no Eminem appearance!!
Dec 15th 2019
15
weird comment considering the Em appearance was a highlight of BoR...
Dec 17th 2019
16
That is correct.
Dec 17th 2019
17
Not at all. Cocaine is the highlight of Book of Ryan
Dec 17th 2019
18
It's almost as if I said "a highlight" implying there were numerous...
Dec 18th 2019
19
      lol. right?
Dec 19th 2019
27
I didn’t mind him on Caterpillar
Dec 18th 2019
21
right? Thank God Griselda put him on the last song
Dec 18th 2019
20
BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM
Jan 16th 2020
28
Damn....not feeling the drums - song would be amazing otherwise
Jan 16th 2020
29
What drums ? Ha. But yea they are wack during the hook.
Jan 16th 2020
30
Anyway Royce is top 5 dead or alive. lol.
Jan 16th 2020
31
Royce has had a hell of a career
Jan 16th 2020
34
      Nah not weird, I think that's pretty typical.
Jan 16th 2020
36
drumless songs are good if WSG or Ghost is on the song
Jan 16th 2020
32
LOL fine.
Jan 16th 2020
33
Check out WSG - “Mr. T”
Jan 16th 2020
35
i remember asking if there were rap songs without drums in like 05
Jan 17th 2020
37
      Bruh. The J5 board.
Jan 17th 2020
40
           that was my home...k5 is from j5 lol
Jan 17th 2020
41
Got my answer pretty quick lol.
Jan 17th 2020
39
hes definitely trying to do too much with the drums he did use
Jan 17th 2020
38
This dude's got the worst adlibs in the game
Jan 17th 2020
43
      LOL don't think I've ever even noticed his adlibs.
Jan 18th 2020
44
           How have you never noticed DOOT DOOT DOOT DOOT in EVERY verse lol
Jan 18th 2020
45
                Mannn don't ruin Royce for me lol
Jan 18th 2020
46
                     Royce has gotta stop starting EVERY verse with “ayo!” too
Jan 18th 2020
47
                     I'm talking about WSG man lmao
Jan 19th 2020
48
                          Ohhhh thank god lol
Jan 19th 2020
49
Moved to February 21st
Jan 17th 2020
42
Upside Down w/ Benny the Butcher
Feb 07th 2020
50
Flames. I'm loving Royce's production so far.
Feb 09th 2020
51
Welp, that was a letdown.
Feb 21st 2020
53
The beats are too one dimensional.
Feb 21st 2020
55
Lyrically, he teeters between saying something powerful
Feb 21st 2020
56
      Ha yea the autism stuff was cringeworthy.
Feb 21st 2020
57
      Agree 100%
Feb 21st 2020
60
           This was apparent as soon as he released the tracklist/album length
Feb 21st 2020
63
i must be a stan, i loved it
Feb 21st 2020
58
WTF with this antivax?
Feb 21st 2020
61

Brew
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1. "Hell yea. Book of Ryan top 5 2018."
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That's too many songs tho haha.

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mista k5
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2. "rare exception where ill disagree on a new album being too long"
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royce showed he can make a full length album that is great. in general i would be looking at albums being around 12 songs though. id say royce needs at least 16 lol

  

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3. "I hope this gives him his moment and puts him in GOAT status convos. "
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Original Juice
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4. "I believe he's handling most of if not all of the production"
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or that's what he alluded to on the Joe Budden podcast.

  

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5. "If it all sounds as good as "Black Savage" I'm for it."
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7. "he produced field negro too right?"
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hopefully everything is on the same level as those two tracks. thats the only thing that concerns me about the length. if he produced it all thats quite ambitious. i think hes surrounded himself with good help though.

  

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22. "Yep and production tutors are Preemo, Nottz, bink! & Mr Porter"
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How’s that for learning how to make beats?
Haha.

I’m curious to see if Royce who is a master of flows
finds even more ridiculous pockets to rhyme in...

Some of the best beat makers that have ill flows over their own beats
come from Detroit:

Dilla
Black Milk
Ta’Raach

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23. "Binkkkkkkk that's so dope."
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>RE: Yep and production tutors are Preemo, Nottz, bink! & Mr Porter

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24. "RE: Yep and production tutors are Preemo, Nottz, bink! & Mr Porter"
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>How’s that for learning how to make beats?
>Haha.
>
>I’m curious to see if Royce who is a master of flows
>finds even more ridiculous pockets to rhyme in...
>
>Some of the best beat makers that have ill flows over their
>own beats
>come from Detroit:
>
>Dilla
>Black Milk
>Ta’Raach

Great company to be in..

However, I just wish he would do a whole project prod by Milk.

  

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25. "Damn - that would be tuff! "
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52. "on first listen im not feeling the production overall"
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some of it is fine but a lot of it just doesn't measure up (to me)

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54. "Think I agree. He's rapping his ass off tho."
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59. "he most definitely is"
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i guess i just hoped the production would match his pen

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62. "Same."
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6. "Royce is...Man I Can't Say Enough about Lyricism...."
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..but this guy! WOW!!

It takes all kinds to make up a world, son. -My pops

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8. "**scratches neck*** got any more of those premo colabs ????"
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11. "LOL"
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9. "Royce produced the whole album...looking forward to this..."
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10. "i need another Elzhi collabo"
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Peace,

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http://wutangbook.com

  

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12. "Same. They rap well together."
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26. "RE: i need another Elzhi collabo"
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>Peace,
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>Spirit (Alan)
>http://wutangbook.com

Yes
over either a Black Milk or Jake One beat

  

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13. "I like that Royce got Griselda on different songs"
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....instead of the posse cut like everyone does.

Personally I'm looking forward to the song with Crooked, they both are in totally different places than when they made Gun Harmonizing so this song will probably show that.

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14. "I still bang B.O.R. like it just came out...very amped about this"
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...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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15. "and no Eminem appearance!!"
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Looking forward to it.

  

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16. "weird comment considering the Em appearance was a highlight of BoR..."
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17. "That is correct."
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Which is saying something because that album is full of highlights.

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18. "Not at all. Cocaine is the highlight of Book of Ryan"
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The J. Cole feature is next.

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19. "It's almost as if I said "a highlight" implying there were numerous... "
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27. "lol. right? "
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21. "I didn’t mind him on Caterpillar "
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But no Em verse > Em verse

  

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20. "right? Thank God Griselda put him on the last song"
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because I cut that album off as soon as Eminem starts rapping every time.

He wasn’t as wack as usual on Caterpillar, but that’s still not one of the highlights of the album for me. Lots of great songs on that one, and Em contributes nothing to the direction of the album. It’s just some “look at me!” BS.

  

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28. "BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJb4nLpBxm0

  

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29. "Damn....not feeling the drums - song would be amazing otherwise"
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Maybe they’ll grow on me. I still like it. WSG is at his best here IMO. Right in his lane.

Why’s Royce dissing Yelawolf? I never got into him anyway, just curious at what’s going on.

  

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30. "What drums ? Ha. But yea they are wack during the hook."
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>Maybe they’ll grow on me. I still like it. WSG is at his
>best here IMO. Right in his lane.

I've hated the drumless-song trend since it started whenever it started. IMO you gotta put *something* there even if they're lowkey/weak.


>Why’s Royce dissing Yelawolf? I never got into him anyway,
>just curious at what’s going on.

Unless someone's close w/one of them I assume no one knows yet - he said "I ain't gon' put it on blast ..."

But I'm interested to know, too. He said something about Yela being a "vulture," and also made a Kid Rock reference, so I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he said and/or did some racist shit lol. Which would make this song/callout align with the direction Royce has been going with his recent output ("Black Savage" & "Field Negro" namely). It would also align with the fact that, y'know, Yela is a tatted up white dude from Alabama so chances are he's not nearly as non-racist as he prolly likes to/wants folks to think he is.

So yea I hope at some point we find out what all this is about. I saw something recently about Yela and Eminem still being cool despite the fact that Yelawolf split from Shady Records, so as little as I care about Yela (and Em, for that matter, at least recently), I'd be interested to find out whether this Yela/Royce beef has caused a new rift with the Bad Meets Evil team, a la the Royce/D12 beef back in the day.

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31. "Anyway Royce is top 5 dead or alive. lol."
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This dude is what, like 45 ? And somehow still getting better.

I'm so glad/fortunate (like several of us here, I know) that his early-career work w/Em caught on with me, cause as a result I've been following him pretty closely throughout his entire career. And despite a misstep here and there it's been remarkable to witness how he's never stopped growing as an MC and an artist overall. He just never stopped getting better. This dude has exponentially improved his mic game and song-writing/album-crafting game consistently for damn near 20 years now.

Props to a criminally underrated legend.

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34. "Royce has had a hell of a career "
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It’s weird, with Royce I’ve gone like every 5 years where I’m really into him. Beyond “Boom” I didn’t pay close attention until Death Is Certain. And then I kinda checked out again until Street Hop. Checked out, then I got back in with Prhyme. Then again with Book of Ryan.

So it’s like 4 projects I was really on, in real time. Had to go back to the Bar Exams, Success is Certain, etc.

  

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36. "Nah not weird, I think that's pretty typical."
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>It’s weird, with Royce I’ve gone like every 5 years where
>I’m really into him. Beyond “Boom” I didn’t pay close
>attention until Death Is Certain. And then I kinda checked
>out again until Street Hop. Checked out, then I got back in
>with Prhyme. Then again with Book of Ryan.
>
>So it’s like 4 projects I was really on, in real time. Had
>to go back to the Bar Exams, Success is Certain, etc.

I feel like most hip-hop fans went through that same exact rollercoaster with Royce's career. And rightfully so IMO, to an extent. You kinda hit the high points for the most part.

Like I'd say "Success is Certain" was a high point for him but not everybody felt that way. And obviously the Bad Meets Evil album was ass.

So there were some missteps, but I just feel like there's been very few, if any, MCs who have been this far into their careers and have found a way to grow like he has IMO.

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32. "drumless songs are good if WSG or Ghost is on the song"
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That’s the law. That’s the rule.

I just made that up, but I think it’s true.

  

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33. "LOL fine."
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I'll defer to you on WSG (I am, maybe embarrassingly, not very familiar with his work) but re: Ghost I can't really disagree at all ..


>That’s the law. That’s the rule.
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>I just made that up, but I think it’s true.

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35. "Check out WSG - “Mr. T”"
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mista k5
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37. "i remember asking if there were rap songs without drums in like 05"
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either on here or the j5 board lol. folks threw me out. i just wanted to know if it would be possible to make a rap song that didnt have any drums. not necessarily saying it would be a good thing.

if you strip a rap song down to its bare bones its a rapper and some drums right?

  

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40. "Bruh. The J5 board."
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I was probably on that too lol

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41. "that was my home...k5 is from j5 lol"
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i was on that a lot and mosdefinitely too scared to post much on okp back then

  

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39. "Got my answer pretty quick lol."
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Royce appears on Eminem's new album 3x haha. Guess they're fine.

Anyway Yela and Royce took Instagram shots at eachother today but I'm still not clear what their beef is. Both posts were relatively cryptic.


>I'd be interested to find out
>whether this Yela/Royce beef has caused a new rift with the
>Bad Meets Evil team, a la the Royce/D12 beef back in the day.

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38. "hes definitely trying to do too much with the drums he did use"
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his beats so far have some really dope elements but there not fully there yet.

  

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43. "This dude's got the worst adlibs in the game"
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44. "LOL don't think I've ever even noticed his adlibs."
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Give me an example (like give me a minute and second from this song) I'm gonna listen for this now.

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45. "How have you never noticed DOOT DOOT DOOT DOOT in EVERY verse lol "
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46. "Mannn don't ruin Royce for me lol"
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I'm a huge r59 fan and I legit don't even know what you're talking about.

And now that's prolly all I'll hear everytime I listen to him, and he'll go from my top 5 to not mentioned at all. Fuckin thanks man haha.

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47. "Royce has gotta stop starting EVERY verse with “ayo!” too"
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and the wrestling references are out of control.

  

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48. "I'm talking about WSG man lmao "
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49. "Ohhhh thank god lol"
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42. "Moved to February 21st"
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slightly updated features. emanny & cedric the entertainer on dope man. premier on on the block.

1. Mr. Grace (Intro)
2. Dope Man feat. Emanny & Cedric The Entertainer
3. I Don’t Age
4. Pendulum feat. Ashley Sorrell
5. I Play Forever feat. Grafh
6. Ice Cream (Interlude)
7. On The Block feat. Oswin Benjamin & DJ Premier
8. Generation Is Broken
9. Overcomer feat. Westside Gunn
10. Mrs. Grace (Interlude)
11. Thou Shall feat. Kid Vishis
12. FUBU feat. Conway The Machine
13. A Black Man Favorite Shoe (Skit)
14. Upside Down feat. Ashley Sorrell & Benny The Butcher
15. Perspective (Skit)
16. Tricked feat. KXNG Crooked
17. Black People In America
18. Black Savage feat. Sy Ari Da Kid, White Gold, CyHi The Prynce & T.I.
19. Rhinestone Doo Rag
20. Young World feat. Vince Staples & G Perico
21. My People Free feat. Ashley Sorrell
22. Hero feat. White Gold

  

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50. "Upside Down w/ Benny the Butcher"
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http://youtu.be/FaBgMAYYVQw

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51. "Flames. I'm loving Royce's production so far."
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The two tracks he produced were the only two tracks I liked from the Em album.

  

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53. "Welp, that was a letdown."
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55. "The beats are too one dimensional."
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Same/similar tempos, lacking drums, largely emotionless. The most interesting beat was easily Black Savage and we already heard that one.

He prolly shoulda eased into the production game. Maybe do like 5 or 6 tracks then let the professionals handle the rest.

It's pretty bold to drop a TWENTY TWO track self-produced album - too long even if the production is great - on your first foray into the production game.

Too bad too cause as always he's rapping his ass off. And was covering new ground so the lyrics reward repeat listens. Also too bad cause I had high hopes for his production considering the tracks that were released ahead of time.

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56. "Lyrically, he teeters between saying something powerful"
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and saying some fake deep shit, occasionally dipping into pure misinformation. Not one but TWO "vaccines gave my kid autism" lines? Sheesh.

  

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57. "Ha yea the autism stuff was cringeworthy."
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On his Nas shit.

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60. "Agree 100%"
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The production absolutely sucks and it suffers from the same thing BOR did in my opinion and that is lack of focus.

Not only is the semi-deep angle hit or miss, he still feels the need to add in the ignorant angle to maintain whatever credibility he feels he needs.

It’s a shame because he can rap his ass off but between the cringe-worthy lines, the half-baked concepts and the awful beats...this album is not good.

  

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63. "This was apparent as soon as he released the tracklist/album length"
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>it suffers from the same
>thing BOR did in my opinion and that is lack of focus.

I really enjoyed BOR, but man does it stray away from the theme and go in a diff direction too much. There needed to be some tracks left behind for it to be *GREAT*.

  

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58. "i must be a stan, i loved it"
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he did lean a bit too much on popular samples but overall i loved it. the beats worked well for me. i dont age was eh, could do without it. mr grace and thou shall could be better. the rest of the tracks were great to me.

the anti-vax lines are blah and unfortunate. the overall message of the album is dope though. maybe i will come down on it after more listens but i loved it on the first listen.



  

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61. "WTF with this antivax?"
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This album is fire beyond that. It's not even an opinion its just a boldface falsehood. Really screws with me. He may as well endorse eugenics in his rhymes.

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