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atruhead
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"Does Common have more bad albums than good albums yet?"


  

          

*throws smoke bomb and runs*

this is from Wikipedia

Studio albums
Can I Borrow a Dollar? (1992)
Resurrection (1994)
One Day It'll All Make Sense (1997)
Like Water for Chocolate (2000)
Electric Circus (2002)
Be (2005)
Finding Forever (2007)
Universal Mind Control (2008)
The Dreamer/The Believer (2011)
Nobody's Smiling (2014)
Black America Again (2016)
Let Love (2019)

Collaborative albums
August Greene (with Robert Glasper and Karriem Riggins) (2018)

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Is there a difference between bad/mid/good to you?
Sep 01st 2019
1
I like Electric Circus more than everything after Finding Forever
Sep 01st 2019
6
      wow...interesting opinion. i cant knock it because yours, but its defini...
Sep 02nd 2019
21
           I did like Finding Forever, that's my cutoff
Sep 03rd 2019
34
                ok gotcha i read it wrong.
Sep 04th 2019
54
does PE? Does KRS? Does LL? Does Jay-Z?
Sep 01st 2019
2
No
Sep 01st 2019
3
Pretty much.
Sep 01st 2019
4
      RE: Pretty much.
Sep 02nd 2019
13
UMC is the only bad album to me
Sep 01st 2019
5
Co-sign UMC was so so.
Sep 07th 2019
86
Delete this dumb shit.
Sep 01st 2019
7
No.
Sep 01st 2019
8
To Me It's 50%
Sep 01st 2019
9
No. Another edgy post failure.
Sep 01st 2019
10
lol
Sep 02nd 2019
12
Can't believe people stil try this shit in 2019
Sep 02nd 2019
14
Or maybe I dont love 7 of his 13 albums
Sep 02nd 2019
16
      LMAO. You didn't say "i don't love X." You said "BAD," you liar.
Sep 02nd 2019
22
           art that I don't like is received as bad art by me
Sep 03rd 2019
36
                That’s not how this works at all
Sep 06th 2019
78
                     funny how Im the one arguing opinions the least in here
Sep 07th 2019
82
funny that some people still havent gotten electric circus
Sep 02nd 2019
11
It’s my favorite album from him and I love LWFC and Resurrection.
Sep 02nd 2019
15
RE: It’s my favorite album from him and I love LWFC and Resurrection.
Sep 02nd 2019
24
or can we just not like it? Goddamn.
Sep 03rd 2019
30
I actually accept that album for what it is
Sep 03rd 2019
37
Nothing after Be is remotely as strong as his 1994-2005 run
Sep 02nd 2019
17
Black America Again is a near classic
Sep 03rd 2019
47
No.
Sep 02nd 2019
18
lying for no reason is wild
Sep 02nd 2019
19
      Calling differences in opinion “lying” is the dumbest shit ever
Sep 02nd 2019
20
           Ironically, he just openly lied above. So liars are what liars do.
Sep 02nd 2019
23
           ^^^^^precisely^^^^^^
Sep 03rd 2019
31
           LOL, yeah. I was going to respond with the same thing you did...
Sep 03rd 2019
32
                the irony is agreeing with Orbit Established who is the worst troll here
Sep 03rd 2019
38
                     No, he's right
Sep 03rd 2019
48
                          this is a lot for a music discussion
Sep 04th 2019
52
           try not to take everything so seriously next time
Sep 03rd 2019
35
UMC is his only bad album imo
Sep 02nd 2019
25
^^^^
Sep 03rd 2019
27
hes 5-7 in solo studio albums imo.
Sep 02nd 2019
26
RE: hes 5-7 in solo studio albums imo.
Sep 04th 2019
56
      "Pyramids" would like a word with you.
Sep 04th 2019
57
any artist with 4 good albums has a pretty great career...
Sep 03rd 2019
28
Basically. I'm a Nas superfan. Most of his albums are average-below tho
Sep 03rd 2019
29
      I'll even go as far to say I prefer Common's discog to Nas'
Sep 03rd 2019
33
           i agree with this.
Sep 03rd 2019
42
           thats crazy
Sep 03rd 2019
44
           Kinda shocked that this is even a debate to be honest
Sep 05th 2019
60
RE: Does Common have more bad albums than good albums yet?
Sep 03rd 2019
39
Doesn't matter. His 4-album run through 2002 cemented him.
Sep 03rd 2019
40
at least we're getting close to objectivity here
Sep 03rd 2019
41
      ..........
Sep 03rd 2019
43
           I didn't expect the subjective answers to be unreasonably biased
Sep 03rd 2019
45
                oh its like that?
Sep 04th 2019
55
                Oh I get it. You just don't know the definition of subjective.
Sep 05th 2019
65
                     Im a professional journalist
Sep 05th 2019
66
                          You are also using bias incorrectly.
Sep 06th 2019
71
                               less biased people arent staunchly in favor of Common
Sep 07th 2019
83
                                    So you are saying we are lying about enjoying his music?
Sep 07th 2019
87
                                         "for me, the music isnt as good as his biggest fans find it to be"
Sep 08th 2019
88
                                              RE: "for me, the music isnt as good as his biggest fans find it to be"
Sep 09th 2019
89
No. Not even close. He has one bad album, and one meh album
Sep 03rd 2019
46
RE: Does Common have more bad albums than good albums yet?
Sep 03rd 2019
49
So, this was a FAILURE of a post
Sep 03rd 2019
50
Why didn’t you just put all that in one reply?
Sep 03rd 2019
51
maybe you're just a big Common fan?
Sep 04th 2019
53
      General consensus is your post failed
Sep 04th 2019
58
           oh okay
Sep 04th 2019
59
           Like I said, YOUR POST FAILED
Sep 06th 2019
80
                oh okay
Sep 07th 2019
84
           eh
Sep 05th 2019
61
                Im too old to troll post
Sep 05th 2019
62
                im all in on TDTB
Sep 05th 2019
63
                     I'm a huge Cocaine 80s fan as well.
Sep 05th 2019
69
                          ya i think thats fair
Sep 06th 2019
72
                               Yea true - "Blue Sky" grew on me over time as well.
Sep 06th 2019
74
                                    celebrate makes me dance like a fucking muppet
Sep 06th 2019
75
                                         Hahahaha - that made me LOL.
Sep 06th 2019
77
I like Common's first 7 albums
Sep 05th 2019
64
I think this is fair.
Sep 05th 2019
70
No...not yet. But damn if he ain't trying.
Sep 05th 2019
67
I don't think so, he probably has more average albums
Sep 05th 2019
68
Are you proposing that everything after Be is bad?
Sep 06th 2019
73
Im of the belief that nothing after Finding Forever is solid
Sep 07th 2019
85
Thanks to the OP for making me revisit com's discog
Sep 06th 2019
76
You need to listen to Black America Again
Sep 06th 2019
79
      It's a really fucking good album.
Sep 06th 2019
81
interesting piece in the New Yorker
Sep 09th 2019
90
He quotes her in his latest book.
Sep 09th 2019
91
"EDIT." - Janet Jackson
Sep 09th 2019
92

phemom
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1. "Is there a difference between bad/mid/good to you?"
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I can see people saying Com has 2 bad albums (Ec and UMC....and even those have fans on here from what).

From there it's a lot of albums where it's truly YMMV but no outright BAD albums....it's annoying where there's just dope and trash like there isn't an inbetween.

Personally, the only album I can say I did not like was EC, as I can only stand about 5 songs on it (Soul Power was my shit tho).

The new one seems like August Greene where I'm not gonna play it everyday for months, but I can let it run through and not listen to it again for awhile....to me that's Mid or 3-3.5 mics.



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6. "I like Electric Circus more than everything after Finding Forever"
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21. "wow...interesting opinion. i cant knock it because yours, but its defini..."
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not in the majority. did u like FF at all?

  

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34. "I did like Finding Forever, that's my cutoff"
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everything after that is a no for me

  

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54. "ok gotcha i read it wrong."
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2. "does PE? Does KRS? Does LL? Does Jay-Z?"
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Damn near everybody peaks and then either puts out albums that are nowhere near their peak, or they stop putting out albums at all.

  

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3. "No"
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4. "Pretty much."
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To me the only albums I'd accept to be called outright "bad" are UMC (not even debatable IMO) and Finding Forever (which was more corny/hit and miss than outright "bad" to me).

He's got his classics or near-classics (Resurrection, LWFC, Be) and greats (One Day, Black America Again, there's an argument to be made for EC as well IMO) then a bunch of middle-of-the-road/below his standard of greatness efforts (CIBAD, TD/TB, Nobody's Smiling, August Greene, and this new joint).

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13. "RE: Pretty much."
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>To me the only albums I'd accept to be called outright "bad"
>are UMC (not even debatable IMO)


I can rock with that, but this post did remind me to listen to "Punch Drunk Love" tho. Still love that joint. I also liked 'Inhale', 'Announcement', 'Sex 4 Suga', 'Make My Day', and the title track. I always wanted 'Gladiator' to have a stronger beat and thought it coulda been pretty good but that beat was really weak. The bad songs were really bad tho lol... and I understand why folks wouldn't like 'Make My Day.' I don't hate the album tho, considering I like at least half of the songs on it even they aren't the most memorable.


>and Finding Forever (which
>was more corny/hit and miss than outright "bad" to me).


Yeah I don't think that album was bad at all.


>He's got his classics or near-classics (Resurrection, LWFC,
>Be) and greats (One Day, Black America Again, there's an
>argument to be made for EC as well IMO) then a bunch of
>middle-of-the-road/below his standard of greatness efforts
>(CIBAD, TD/TB, Nobody's Smiling, August Greene, and this new
>joint).


I haven't sat down and given this new one a good listen yet, but I pretty much agree except for EC. That's a classic to me idc lol... if only for how polarizing it still is. I just think it was both ahead of its time and too far from what most expected from Common. So much beauty in that album from the music to Common's sense of freedom. But I digress.

Overall, this post made me realize he doesn't have any "bad" albums according to my taste. Mainly because his love of and dedication to Hip Hop is always present in every one he makes.


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5. "UMC is the only bad album to me"
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I don’t love his albums this decade but they aren’t bad imo

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86. "Co-sign UMC was so so."
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7. "Delete this dumb shit. "
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8. "No."
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9. "To Me It's 50%"
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He had six good albums out of twelve, that's pretty good if you ask me, the rest of his catalog has good songs on not so good albums, this can be said for a LOT of rappers/emcees; it's kind of hard for a rap artist to keep making albums and have every one or every other one really good one that's listenable from beginning to end with only one or two skips on that album.

Nas, KRS-One, Ice Cube, Ghostface Killah, Jay-Z, etc., they have all reached their peak years ago but continue to put out albums just like how rock & jazz acts continue even if the public says their early albums is their best stuff but every once in a while they will put out something worth while.


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10. "No. Another edgy post failure. "
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12. "lol"
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14. "Can't believe people stil try this shit in 2019"
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Like, stop

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16. "Or maybe I dont love 7 of his 13 albums"
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22. "LMAO. You didn't say "i don't love X." You said "BAD," you liar. "
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Damn you flat lying


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36. "art that I don't like is received as bad art by me"
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Tue Sep-03-19 11:15 AM by atruhead

  

          

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78. "That’s not how this works at all"
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You can recognize art as good without personally enjoying it. Or at least decide that an album is not bad per se, but just not for you. If you’re gonna argue that a critically acclaimed artist has 50% plus bad albums, you’re gonna have to make a better argument than just listing album titles. Otherwise this is just some edgelord bullshit

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82. "funny how Im the one arguing opinions the least in here"
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I made a joke about one person lying

other than that I've been letting people live with their beliefs despite disagreeing. I find everything after Finding Forever to be bad, terms like "edgelord bullshit" are lame but such is the internet

  

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11. "funny that some people still havent gotten electric circus"
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To people like US, a record is a piece of history. A moment in time.
most people don't get it.

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15. "It’s my favorite album from him and I love LWFC and Resurrection."
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I think One Day is okay, it’s overrated to me.
The production is mid as fuck.
Be is cool - I get why people think it’s classic, it’s not.
It’s strong but maybe 4th in his discography.
Black America was okay, I know some people like that one A LOT.
I think Dreamer / Believer is MUCH better. NoID crushes that shit.
Com is being quirky and having fun with his flow again on D/B.
UMC sucks. Can I sucks.
This new one is very soft like terry cloth.

Who woulda thought Com heard the Black Album and said
damn... maybe I should dumb it down and Jay really said, maybe I should start rhyming like Common Sense.

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24. "RE: It’s my favorite album from him and I love LWFC and Resurrection."
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Well said...and to me, the creative path Com took with "Electric Circus" was dope, still give it spins. Yeah, not all of it worked, but still dope....

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30. "or can we just not like it? Goddamn. "
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Really tired of the "you don't get it narrative" about that album.

Joint didn't resonate widely. That's it.
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37. "I actually accept that album for what it is"
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an experiment with a few duds (I Got A Right To is inexcusable)

but he was rapping well on it

  

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17. "Nothing after Be is remotely as strong as his 1994-2005 run"
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He didnt get better with time at music or rapping

go ahead, lie to me

  

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47. "Black America Again is a near classic"
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I don't care what anybody says, it is.

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18. "No."
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>Can I Borrow a Dollar? (1992)
Fine for the time, even if he sounds like he's 14 on it.

>Resurrection (1994)

Great.

>One Day It'll All Make Sense (1997)

Great.

>Like Water for Chocolate (2000)

Great.

>Electric Circus (2002)

Very good.

>Be (2005

Great.

>Finding Forever (2007)

Liked the beats. Did not like Common's performance.

>Universal Mind Control (2008)

Really didn't like this. And it was mostly because of Common's performance again.

>The Dreamer/The Believer (2011)

Great.

>Nobody's Smiling (2014)

Very good.

>Black America Again (2016)

Wasn't feeling this as much as many. Heart was in the right place though.

>Let Love (2019)

Yeah, really not feeling this one. And again, it's again on Common. Lyrically, he doesn't sound like he's really engaged at all. I understand, because he's full into his acting career. Good intentions and enlightened subject matter don't translate into good music if the execution is off.


>August Greene (with Robert Glasper and Karriem Riggins)
>(2018)

Honestly haven't heard this.


But, he has far more good to great albums than bad ones. And his great albums earn him a lot of lee-way. His output isn't what it used to be, but I'm find with chalking that up to the normal shit that MCs go through when they've been recording and releasing music for close to 30 years. And, morever, get into acting.

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19. "lying for no reason is wild"
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>>The Dreamer/The Believer (2011)
>
>Great.
>
>>Nobody's Smiling (2014)
>
>Very good.

>>August Greene (with Robert Glasper and Karriem Riggins)
>>(2018)
>
>Honestly haven't heard this.

this wasnt very good

  

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20. "Calling differences in opinion “lying” is the dumbest shit ever"
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23. "Ironically, he just openly lied above. So liars are what liars do."
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Shame

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31. "^^^^^precisely^^^^^^"
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______________________________________________________________________________

"To Each His Reach"

but.....

Fuck aliens.

  

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32. "LOL, yeah. I was going to respond with the same thing you did..."
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...in #22, but I figured I'd chill and try to be diplomatic and address the thesis of the post. Serves me right, I guess.

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38. "the irony is agreeing with Orbit Established who is the worst troll here"
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48. "No, he's right"
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all those albums were good to fucking great. You're just being a dumbass

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52. "this is a lot for a music discussion"
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>all those albums were good to fucking great. You're just
>being a dumbass

  

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35. "try not to take everything so seriously next time"
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- you're not literally lying

- I disagreed so staunchly with your assessment that I jokingly described it as "lying on the internet for no reason"

  

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25. "UMC is his only bad album imo"
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All on Common. The beats I could feel working for someone else but he sounded bad on them.
__
I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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27. "^^^^"
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agreed
pretty insane track record IMO

  

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26. "hes 5-7 in solo studio albums imo."
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i didnt like his 1st album.

his 2nd album was pretty good (really buoyed by 2 great singles).

everthing from odiams to ff ranges from really good to great...with the exception of ec (wasnt feeling it like the majority of people).

everything after that is pretty forgettable. especially by his previous standards.

the cocaine 80s stuff was really hit or miss too (even tho you didnt include that).

i used to be a huge common fan. one of my 1st few posts on here was a leak of one of his albums that i got straight out the studio lol. but dude has been sleepwalking for like a decade now.


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56. "RE: hes 5-7 in solo studio albums imo."
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>i used to be a huge common fan. one of my 1st few posts on
>here was a leak of one of his albums that i got straight out
>the studio lol. but dude has been sleepwalking for like a
>decade now.


Facts. The super lyricist is gone for good. He's coastin'....running on fumes now.

Nowadays I just want good songs and dial back on the corniness. His corniness meter is starting to go off the charts.

  

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57. ""Pyramids" would like a word with you."
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>Facts. The super lyricist is gone for good. He's
>coastin'....running on fumes now.

The super lyricist is not gone for good, just doesn't show his face nearly as often.

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28. "any artist with 4 good albums has a pretty great career..."
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>Can I Borrow a Dollar? (1992) <-----GOOD (i liked it lol)
>Resurrection (1994) <-----GREAT
>One Day It'll All Make Sense (1997) <-----GREAT
>Like Water for Chocolate (2000) <-----GOOD
>Electric Circus (2002) <-----BAD
>Be (2005) <-----GOOD
>Finding Forever (2007) <-----BAD
>Universal Mind Control (2008) <-----BAD
>The Dreamer/The Believer (2011) <-----BAD
>Nobody's Smiling (2014) <----- never heard it
>Black America Again (2016) <----- never heard it
>Let Love (2019) <----- never heard it



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https://soundcloud.com/djchiefone/1993-mixtape
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29. "Basically. I'm a Nas superfan. Most of his albums are average-below tho"
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Same for Jay


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33. "I'll even go as far to say I prefer Common's discog to Nas'"
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And I love Nas.

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42. "i agree with this."
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44. "thats crazy"
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but yes

  

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60. "Kinda shocked that this is even a debate to be honest"
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After Illmatic...it gets ugly quick...

  

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39. "RE: Does Common have more bad albums than good albums yet?"
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>Studio Albums

Can I Borrow a Dollar? (1992) - aight

Resurrection (1994) - really good *

One Day It'll All Make Sense (1997) - good

Like Water for Chocolate (2000) - great *

Electric Circus (2002) - good

Be (2005) - great *

Finding Forever (2007) - aight

Universal Mind Control (2008) - NO!

The Dreamer/The Believer (2011) - really good *

Nobody's Smiling (2014) - n/a

Black America Again (2016) - really good

Let Love (2019) - aight



>Collaborative albums

August Greene (with Robert Glasper and Karriem Riggins) (2018) - good *



* are my favorite albums of his

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40. "Doesn't matter. His 4-album run through 2002 cemented him."
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He could put out bad albums for the next 30 years and he's still legit.

  

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41. "at least we're getting close to objectivity here"
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43. ".........."
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maybe dont ask a subjective question if you're looking for an objective answer?

  

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45. "I didn't expect the subjective answers to be unreasonably biased"
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it's up there with anyone who would say Undun/and then you shoot your cousin compare to the rest of The Roots catalog

  

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55. "oh its like that?"
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>it's up there with anyone who would say Undun/and then you
>shoot your cousin compare to the rest of The Roots catalog

sorry, you're not the arbiter of that shit. you're just not. SMH.
those are solid records, whether or not they are the records that YOU wanted out of them. Artists go thru phases. Not all phases are gonna hit with all listeners. But get off your snobby ass high horse jeez.

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65. "Oh I get it. You just don't know the definition of subjective."
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here you go:

sub·jec·tive
/səbˈjektiv/

adjective
1.
based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.
"his views are highly subjective"
synonyms: personal, personalized, individual, internal, emotional, instinctive, intuitive, impressionistic; More

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66. "Im a professional journalist"
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I just didn't expect this much bias in favor of the guy

  

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71. "You are also using bias incorrectly."
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It's an opinion dude, not climate change denial. How are you telling people they can't enjoy/not enjoy music however they want.

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83. "less biased people arent staunchly in favor of Common"
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how else would you like me to word this?

  

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87. "So you are saying we are lying about enjoying his music?"
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Because that would be closer to bias if you are saying we like Common as a person and are therefore saying we like his music even though we actually do not.

Or, you could be saying that the fact that we like Common as a person is creating a 'halo effect' through which we only think we like his music. In this case, you are proposing that if another artist who was not Common made identical music (if such a thing were possible) we would not like that music.

Otherwise I would say it's not biased to have a different opinion about music from someone else.

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88. ""for me, the music isnt as good as his biggest fans find it to be""
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im a professional writer

again, how do you need me to word this?

  

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89. "RE: "for me, the music isnt as good as his biggest fans find it to be""
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>im a professional writer


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46. "No. Not even close. He has one bad album, and one meh album"
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universal mind control was bad, and can I borrow a dollar was meh. everything else was good to classic.

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49. "RE: Does Common have more bad albums than good albums yet?"
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Can I Borrow A Dollar - meh

Ressurection - CLASSIC

ODIAMS - Very great

Like Water For Chocolate - CLASSIC

Electric Circus - Very good

Be - Near classic if not outright classic

Finding Forever - Good if not very good

Universal Mind Control - Bad

The Dreamer/The Believer - Good

Nobody's Smiling Good - but not quite as good as TD/TB

Black America Again - Near Classic

August Greene - Very good

Let Love - Very good


So yeah, this post is waaaaaaay off and not good at all. Common has a legendary discography. Far better than most.

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50. "So, this was a FAILURE of a post"
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comments even prove it, no matter what the OP says.

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51. "Why didn’t you just put all that in one reply?"
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Lol

  

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53. "maybe you're just a big Common fan?"
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general consensus is Let Love is mediocre at best, so you might just be biased

  

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58. "General consensus is your post failed"
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end of story.

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59. "oh okay"
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80. "Like I said, YOUR POST FAILED"
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Badly.

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84. "oh okay"
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61. "eh"
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The post premise was absurd (and I suspect disingenuous...) but the discussion has actually been good - it's cool to see where everyone slots Common's work, where the overlap is and where opinions diverge.

I'm about to go back and listen to Nobody's Smiling bc apparently I hold it higher esteem than most. On the other hand, someone called TDTB "great" and I remember it being ho-hum... good fodder for listening w/open ears and minds.

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62. "Im too old to troll post"
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I didn't make a statement. I formed a question, not knowing people here like the last decade of his career like that

  

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63. "im all in on TDTB"
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mainly because im a Cocaine80s fanboy
and NoID helmed the whole thing with Fauntleroy on like half
so it really hit a sweet spot for me

  

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69. "I'm a huge Cocaine 80s fan as well."
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So I also love that album and have always held it in high regard.

But it def could've benefited from a little trimming. "Sweet" was a weak ass attempt at being hard when the dude was damn near 40 - not to mention Comm was never all that hard to begin with. As a longtime stan I wish he'd gone about that whole situation in a very different way lol.

And "Blue Sky" was a meh attempt at imitating Kanye's "stadium" sound at the time which I thought came off as pretty contrived and unnatural for him.

There's another track or two that I think could've been dropped that I can't come up with right now but other than that, I thought it was a really dope record. "Ghetto Dreams" is some tremendous throwback ish, "Gold" is some vintage Comm lyricism, the opener is in line with some of his best, "Cloth" is a great tribute to his daughter, etc. There's a lot of high highs on that joint.

But like 3-4 songs could've been cut to make it near flawless IMO.

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72. "ya i think thats fair"
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tho i will say
after writing that post i put the record on otw home
i had never liked blue sky either, but relistening now im really digging it for some reason.

so sweet, def agree - but thats prob my only real consistent skipper at this point TBH

it was also the last Pops track, right? which makes it kinda special to me as well

  

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74. "Yea true - "Blue Sky" grew on me over time as well."
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>i had never liked blue sky either, but relistening now im
>really digging it for some reason.

In recent years when I've put that album on I've stopped skipping that song. I still think I could do without it but you're right, it's definitely grown on me as well.


>so sweet, def agree - but thats prob my only real consistent
>skipper at this point TBH
>
>it was also the last Pops track, right? which makes it kinda
>special to me as well

Uhmmm I *think* he did a post-mortem Pop's Rap on "Nobody's Smiling" but don't quote me on that. But either way this one was a great one.

I forgot to mention "Celebrate" which I thought was a dope party track. Love a good piano loop. No ID rocked that album. Per usual.

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75. "celebrate makes me dance like a fucking muppet"
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such a feel good song

  

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77. "Hahahaha - that made me LOL."
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Yea that song is straight joy/happiness for sure.

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64. "I like Common's first 7 albums"
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I LOVE electric circus BTW. After finding forever I kinda lost interest. Outside of Universal Mind Control none of his albums after FF are trash, but they haven't really excited me either. They all just blend together after that.

That said I couldn't get through Let Love. I think it's ok to just have enough of an artist and not be interested. It's not really a judgement like he is wack now if I just don't check for his music.

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70. "I think this is fair."
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I'm a stan so I am definitely biased and think a good chunk of his late-career work has been really good, specifically Black America Again.

But at the same time I sort of begrudgingly recognize that as time has gone on he's run out of interesting things to say and perhaps more importantly, interesting ways to say the things he wants to say.


>I think it's ok to
>just have enough of an artist and not be interested. It's not
>really a judgement like he is wack now if I just don't check
>for his music.

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67. "No...not yet. But damn if he ain't trying."
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68. "I don't think so, he probably has more average albums "
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than truly great ones at this point

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73. "Are you proposing that everything after Be is bad?"
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85. "Im of the belief that nothing after Finding Forever is solid"
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76. "Thanks to the OP for making me revisit com's discog"
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Listening again I think I like Com's work more than I remember.

Can I Borrow a Dollar? (1992)-good
Resurrection (1994)-Classic
One Day It'll All Make Sense (1997)-Classic
Like Water for Chocolate (2000)-Classic
Electric Circus (2002)-Classic (yes, not a typo)
Be (2005)-Classic
Finding Forever (2007)-great
Universal Mind Control (2008)-Bad
The Dreamer/The Believer (2011)-Great
Nobody's Smiling (2014)-???lost interest
Black America Again (2016)???lost interest
Let Love (2019)-1st impression no like

I think Nobody's smiling is where I stopped listening.

At this point in his career he has more non-classics than classics.

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79. "You need to listen to Black America Again"
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It's easily a near classic.

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81. "It's a really fucking good album."
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90. "interesting piece in the New Yorker"
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he's really into spirituality and wellness, nothing wrong with that. But there there's this quote about Marianne Williamson "Man, if we could get more people in politics to approach things like she does, the human race would be better"

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91. "He quotes her in his latest book."
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92. ""EDIT." - Janet Jackson"
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