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"Does Wyclef have the most slept on diss track ever? “What’s Clef?”"


  

          

I have that one ranked higher than Ether and Hit Em Up both are overrated imo. It’s definitely top ten he killed LL. That song got no shine.

  

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RE: Does Wyclef have the most slept on diss track ever? “What’s Clef...
Jul 06th 2019
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Actually yes. I've said this for many years.
Jul 06th 2019
2
Fuck Clef. But I agree that "Hit 'Em Up" is the most overrated ...
Jul 07th 2019
3
It’s level of anger and directness was something else
Jul 07th 2019
5
It's good, but I'm going with Black Sheep's "Here's Anotha Asshole"
Jul 07th 2019
4
He had some lines....I didn’t believe him though
Jul 07th 2019
6
Maybe most slept on
Aug 04th 2019
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BEAT ME TO IT.
Aug 04th 2019
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To Me "The Bitch In Yoo" Is Like A Top 5 Diss Track
Aug 05th 2019
11
"And the Circle Madd, ain't got no choice but to fight / ...
Aug 06th 2019
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Bitch in you is definitely top three
Aug 08th 2019
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It proved to be a major turning point in Common's career
Aug 10th 2019
26
YEP!
Aug 12th 2019
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I know folks love to hate Eminem. Myself included. And ...
Aug 04th 2019
8
RE: I know folks love to hate Eminem. Myself included. And ...
Aug 09th 2019
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Yea Search 4 Bobby Fisher or whatever ? That shit was fire.
Aug 09th 2019
22
the canibus one is pretty great too
Aug 09th 2019
23
Meh --- track is corny
Aug 05th 2019
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No Vaseline still goes pretty hard in 2019.
Aug 08th 2019
13
Yea this is near the top of my list too.
Aug 08th 2019
14
No Vaseline Is well known
Aug 08th 2019
15
How about Nas - Stillmatic Freestyle?
Aug 08th 2019
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Yea I liked the Stillmatic Freestyle a lot.
Aug 08th 2019
18
Yeah, he was spitting hard and sounding smooth doing it
Aug 08th 2019
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Is he H to the izzo/M to the izzo?/
Aug 10th 2019
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and right before that....
Aug 10th 2019
28
LMAO. That's another one.
Aug 11th 2019
29
LOL yep. Nas, man. When he's on there's no one better.
Aug 11th 2019
31
Haha hell yea - I almost quoted that line as well.
Aug 11th 2019
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Un was your first court case/you had no priors
Aug 13th 2019
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nas lost
Aug 09th 2019
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Eminem going at Mariah was hard
Aug 09th 2019
24
This subject line made me laugh
Aug 10th 2019
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Yea that was the last time I liked him lol.
Aug 11th 2019
32
Bagpipes from Baghdad or the one that didn't come out?
Aug 13th 2019
36
      "Warning" - the one with the voicemail.
Aug 13th 2019
37
           yeah that one
Aug 16th 2019
38
"Search 4 Bobby Fisher" is more underrated + better than this.
Aug 12th 2019
34

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1. "RE: Does Wyclef have the most slept on diss track ever? “What’s Clef..."
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Damn, forgot this one...imo, this and the Canibus joint, were much better than what LL did...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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2. "Actually yes. I've said this for many years."
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3. "Fuck Clef. But I agree that "Hit 'Em Up" is the most overrated ..."
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... diss song in music history. That song really kinda sucks if we're being honest.

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5. "It’s level of anger and directness was something else "
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So it made for a “must listen” status at the time. But after that...yeah. It’s not all that “good”. Most diss records have a short shelf life to me though.

  

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4. "It's good, but I'm going with Black Sheep's "Here's Anotha Asshole""
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Hammer may be low hanging fruit, but they went at him in ways only Bay Area cats would get.

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6. "He had some lines....I didn’t believe him though"
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You just know he was an LL fan.

  

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7. "Maybe most slept on"
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Bitch In Yoo is the gold standard of dis tracks IMO

  

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9. "BEAT ME TO IT."
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>Bitch In Yoo is the gold standard of dis tracks IMO

It's #1 in my book too. For a lot of reasons. Lyrically it's top notch, of course. But the fact that he went after someone who, at that time, was still considered top 5 dead or alive and Comm was a relative unknown. Legendary. Perfect beat for the moment too.

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11. "To Me "The Bitch In Yoo" Is Like A Top 5 Diss Track"
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Common went at Ice Cube so hard, he was breaking down his career and all his movie roles to even dissing WC & Mack 10 (which I think WC didn't deserve it at all, cause I like WC more than Cube) but he made it personal, not about a coast or a place, and even got Pete Rock to give him heat to spit on.

Of course 90's listeners heard this song before but to me the only reason why most younger people haven't heard it cause it wasn't on any of Common's albums, just on a single off a Relativity Records compilation "Relativity Urban Assault"; only recently in 2010 did they put it on a compilation called "Go! Common Classics" and for that reason maybe that's why it maybe considered slept on.


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12. ""And the Circle Madd, ain't got no choice but to fight / ..."
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... ain't none a' y'all mothafuckas got a chance on the mic"

That line always gets me - he said it with such conviction lol.

Think he went after WC because they threatened to fight him or something.

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16. "Bitch in you is definitely top three"
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26. "It proved to be a major turning point in Common's career"
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as his stature, sales and his skills increased.

Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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33. "YEP!"
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8. "I know folks love to hate Eminem. Myself included. And ..."
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I know Benzino is low hanging fruit (to steal a cliche from someone else in this post re: MC Hammer) but "The Sauce" and "Nail in the Coffin" are both top 5 IMO. Em shredded those beats.

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21. "RE: I know folks love to hate Eminem. Myself included. And ..."
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True, but benzino was an easy target...Evidence brought it to Em's throat, a real MC response...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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22. "Yea Search 4 Bobby Fisher or whatever ? That shit was fire."
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I always forget about that one, which is weird considering I used to listen to it all the time back when it came out.

But yea Ev was crazy on that track. Great diss record.

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23. "the canibus one is pretty great too"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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10. "Meh --- track is corny"
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It's hard take this track seriously. Clef just calling LL a non - legend the entire time.

ok. ROLL EYES

Clef's lyrics are mediocre at best. And saying this is in anyway a better "diss track" than Hit'em up is crazy talk.

Pac literally starts the track with ... that's why I F*cked your b*tch... and .... F*ck your b*tch and the click you claim....

He basically says F*ck You out the gate ... While Hit'em is nothing less than egregious...

Does it get harder than that? No... it does not.


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13. "No Vaseline still goes pretty hard in 2019. "
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkEcNmBPlVg

  

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14. "Yea this is near the top of my list too."
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It's an all timer and checks all the boxes.

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15. " No Vaseline Is well known"
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17. "How about Nas - Stillmatic Freestyle?"
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Ether gets all the attention, but Nas went hard on Stillmatic Freestyle.

  

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18. "Yea I liked the Stillmatic Freestyle a lot."
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Ether is Ether for a million reasons but I always liked his flow on H to the Omo better.

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19. "Yeah, he was spitting hard and sounding smooth doing it"
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To me, that was the best diss song from either side in their whole battle.

  

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27. "Is he H to the izzo/M to the izzo?/"
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For shizzo, you phony/The rapping version of Sisqo.

Yeah! I forgot about the freestyle as soon as Ether dropped. But man that line stood out!

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28. "and right before that...."
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I rule you, before you used to rap like the Fu-Schnickens/Nas designed your Blueprint, who you kidding?

Any of those “jAy-Z uSeD fAcTs N nAS jUsT uSeD iNsUltS” people need only reference that to realize how wrong they are.

That “Rip the Freeway, shoot through Memphis with Money Bags/Stop in Philly, order cheese steaks and eat Beans fast” part was slick too.

  

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29. "LMAO. That's another one. "
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>I rule you, before you used to rap like the Fu-Schnickens/Nas
>designed your Blueprint, who you kidding?
>
>Any of those “jAy-Z uSeD fAcTs N nAS jUsT uSeD iNsUltS”
>people need only reference that to realize how wrong they
>are.
>
>That “Rip the Freeway, shoot through Memphis with Money
>Bags/Stop in Philly, order cheese steaks and eat Beans fast”
>part was slick too.

Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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31. "LOL yep. Nas, man. When he's on there's no one better."
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>I rule you, before you used to rap like the Fu-Schnickens/Nas
>designed your Blueprint, who you kidding?
>
>Any of those “jAy-Z uSeD fAcTs N nAS jUsT uSeD iNsUltS”
>people need only reference that to realize how wrong they
>are.
>
>That “Rip the Freeway, shoot through Memphis with Money
>Bags/Stop in Philly, order cheese steaks and eat Beans fast”
>part was slick too.

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30. "Haha hell yea - I almost quoted that line as well."
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>For shizzo, you phony/The rapping version of Sisqo.
>
>Yeah! I forgot about the freestyle as soon as Ether dropped.
>But man that line stood out!

Meant to. So brilliant.

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35. "Un was your first court case/you had no priors"
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Slapped up The Roc in one quick freestyle. Honestly liked this better than Ether

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20. "nas lost"
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i will not let finite disappointment undermine infinite hope
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Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes, and at the end the Germans always win
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24. "Eminem going at Mariah was hard"
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I know he went at easy targets in his career but I felt bad for Mariah listening to that

  

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25. "This subject line made me laugh"
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And I know you qualified it and acknowledged “easy targets”, but....

I don’t know. I thought Eminem looked like a clown there, regardless of what his lyrics were.

  

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32. "Yea that was the last time I liked him lol."
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>I know he went at easy targets in his career but I felt bad
>for Mariah listening to that

Pretty much the last time he sounded like his old self IIRC.

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36. "Bagpipes from Baghdad or the one that didn't come out?"
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they are both pretty funny. now i'm thinking of a third, there's the one from the Eminem show and the one where he uses the voicemail.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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37. ""Warning" - the one with the voicemail."
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At least that's what I thought he was referring to. Joint is funny as hell, and supremely fucked up lol

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38. "yeah that one"
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Like where's the rocky trainer meme "throw the damn towel", when you need it.

  

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34. ""Search 4 Bobby Fisher" is more underrated + better than this."
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https://soundcloud.com/djchiefone/1992-mixtape
https://soundcloud.com/djchiefone/1993-mixtape
https://soundcloud.com/djchiefone/1996-mixtape-part-1
https://soundcloud.com/djchiefone/1996-mixtape-part-2
https://soundcloud.com/djchiefone/1996-mixtape-part-3

  

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