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maro
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"Whatchu listenin to right now in the background?"


  

          

I got that "ON THE WAY UPTOWN" joint on from Camp Lo.

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Elton
Feb 20th 2019
1
Pop Life - Prince
Feb 20th 2019
2
Iyla - War + Raindrops EP
Feb 20th 2019
3
Lately those "lofi" youtube channels.
Feb 20th 2019
4
RE: Lately those "lofi" youtube channels.
Feb 20th 2019
5
Vinny Cha$e - featuring MASE - MONEY TONIGHT
Feb 21st 2019
6
Rising Down
Feb 21st 2019
7
Felt the same way back about a year ago
Feb 24th 2019
11
I'm good with the heavyness
Feb 25th 2019
12
This is one of those "highs and lows" albums to me
Mar 02nd 2020
31
the man with the golden gun
Feb 21st 2019
8
early unreleased ep by The Weeknd called "The Noise"
Feb 23rd 2019
9
The Doors
Feb 23rd 2019
10
Yob - The Great Cessation
Feb 25th 2019
13
Snoh Alaegra
Feb 27th 2019
14
How I Got Over.....damn I wasnt ready for this then
Feb 27th 2019
15
The back half of their catalog has aged really well.
Mar 09th 2019
18
      I think Game Theory knocked right away.
Mar 09th 2019
19
           RE: I think Game Theory knocked right away.
Mar 09th 2019
20
                No that makes total sense and is natural.
Mar 10th 2019
22
right now? exhibit c
Feb 27th 2019
16
Binary star - light years apart.
Mar 01st 2019
17
RE: Whatchu listenin to right now in the background?
Mar 10th 2019
21
Roy Ayers - I am your mind (part 2)
Mar 12th 2019
23
Creep
Apr 20th 2019
24
grant green - 'blues for lou'
Apr 20th 2019
25
Lizzo - Coconut Oil
Apr 20th 2019
26
sir greendown - janelle monae
Feb 26th 2020
27
Bandana Beats - Freddie Gibbs & Madlib
Feb 27th 2020
28
AFTA-1's Form LP
Feb 27th 2020
29
Plair No.5
Mar 02nd 2020
30
Carlos Nino & Friends - Bliss on Dear Oneness
Mar 04th 2020
32
GRIMES
Mar 04th 2020
33
Chiiild - Synthetic Soul
Mar 04th 2020
34
Scientist - Heavyweight Dub Champion
Mar 05th 2020
35
KNOWER - Overtime
Mar 05th 2020
36
RE: Whatchu listenin to right now in the background?
Mar 05th 2020
37
ive been getting caught up on damu the fudgmunk
Mar 26th 2020
38
RE: ive been getting caught up on damu the fudgmunk
Mar 26th 2020
40
      google play music
Mar 26th 2020
41
           RE: google play music
Mar 26th 2020
42
                its rough
Mar 26th 2020
43
Justus League playlist i made
Mar 26th 2020
39
totally outta the norm for me, but Rod Wave - Heart On Ice
Mar 27th 2020
44
i think im doing a prince paul dive next
Mar 27th 2020
45
I should do that too
Mar 27th 2020
46
      i think i need to modify my reply in the beasties thread
Mar 30th 2020
48
           Yea I bought it a couple years after its release and was disappointed to...
Mar 30th 2020
49
                i was reading an interview with him
Mar 30th 2020
50
                     Dope. Thanks. That makes sense obviously cuz it's his album.
Mar 30th 2020
51
                          okay in this interview he says he gave them lines
Mar 30th 2020
52
been listening to Westside Gunn all day
Mar 27th 2020
47

fontgangsta
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1. "Elton"
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"don't shoot me" record

  

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2. "Pop Life - Prince "
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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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3. "Iyla - War + Raindrops EP"
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4. "Lately those "lofi" youtube channels."
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I know some consider the whole genre "problematic" or whatever, but they work for me.

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5. "RE: Lately those "lofi" youtube channels."
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I don't have a problem with that sub-category (tho I think it's kinda playing itself out), but I do have a bit of an issue with the channels. a buddy recently told me he was into lofi beats, but he couldn't tell me the name of any artist he liked. seems like it's wallpaper music and individual talent doesn't get recognized when it's "consumed" (ugh...) in that format. just my little rant. continue on.

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http://opsfromchi.bandcamp.com

  

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6. "Vinny Cha$e - featuring MASE - MONEY TONIGHT"
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Thu Feb-21-19 10:09 AM by maro

  

          

I'm a fan of the CHEERS CLUB crew, V. Cha$e, Kid Art.



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7. "Rising Down"
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Not as bad as I remembered.



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11. "Felt the same way back about a year ago"
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It wasn't so much that the album wasn't good to me when it was released, but it felt like a let down because the tone of the album was so heavy.

But I went down a The Roots rabbit hole one week and stumbled back upon the album and realized it's really good. The music is raw and intense in a way the band hadn't been before and Thought is a monster.

  

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12. "I'm good with the heavyness"
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Game Theory is my 1/1a fave record by them.

Some of the hooks didnt work for me (Singing Man, I Can't Help It), Peedi ruins ANYTHING that he's on (for me), and it was just too many guests for me. But listening to it now, I can look past the hooks and most of the guests add to the album, especially once I finally got used to the idea that The Roots are more than just the cats you see out on tour.

Peedi still ruins Get Busy for me though




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31. "This is one of those "highs and lows" albums to me"
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Mon Mar-02-20 11:39 AM by Oak27

          

Half the songs on their I really love, the other half are immediate skips due to bad/lazy hooks or uninteresting features.

These get plays from me:
Rising Down
Get Busy
Black's Reconstruction
Criminal
I Can't Help It (Porn's verse might be my fav. moment of the album)
Rising Up (don't love it, but it's enjoyable)

The rest I can do without.

The opposite of this is the next album, How I Got Over, which overall I probably rate/rank around the same, but rather than having highs I love and lows I dislike, it's mostly just all solid, there's nothing I LOVE but nothing I hate.

  

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8. "the man with the golden gun"
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9. "early unreleased ep by The Weeknd called "The Noise""
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1I1tUFsFQw&list=PL9KJr1gh71aUzOEUPxUg8Ymua61EL-ZBO.

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10. "The Doors"
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Sat Feb-23-19 10:15 AM by maro

  

          

On some Alexa, play the doors type ish. best of.... perfect sounds for another gray winter day in Philly....




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13. "Yob - The Great Cessation"
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14. "Snoh Alaegra"
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time is money, money is time
so i keep 7 o'clock in the bank and gain interest in the hour of God
I'm saving to buy my freedom, God, grant me wings, I'm too fly not to fly _ Saul Williams

  

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15. "How I Got Over.....damn I wasnt ready for this then"
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Just order the record, lol.

This is a seriously dope record...except for Peedi...





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18. "The back half of their catalog has aged really well."
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Every album after Phrenology felt underwhelming at first. But at some point, I circled back around and at some point really like the album.

15 and the crew really knew what they were doing.

  

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19. "I think Game Theory knocked right away."
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But otherwise I agree with you re: their post-Phren catalogue.

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20. "RE: I think Game Theory knocked right away."
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Some people think that GT is their best or in the top 3 in their discography so the album must have really connected from the beginning with you.

I think the three big songs (Don't Feel Right / In the Music / Here I Come) worked for me from the beginning, but the other songs took more time to sink in.

Every album after Phrenology has been 'dark' or moody in some way and while I've come to appreciate them in their own way, my image of the band is still them in their DYWM and IH days where they were more vital and less reflective in their music.

So, when the new albums come out I'm still filtering the new music through that old lens. Probably isn't fair to the group but that's what ends up happening.

When I was younger, I preferred music that was more reflective or 'soulful', so I ought to be all over the new direction of the band. But it just hasn't clicked. I guess with adult responsibilities I look at music with more of an intent to escape. Not necessarily right probably, but that's where I'm at.



  

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22. "No that makes total sense and is natural."
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I think we all tend to view all artists' albums through the lens of how we first heard them, in a lot of cases. So I get that.

I also totally understand your preference for music as an "escape" rather than a reminder of the difficulties of adult life haha. I still gravitate to music with a message but not to the extreme that I used to. In my old age I certainly gravitate to simpler music sometimes myself, for the same reason ... just looking for something breezy and enjoyable rather than dense and, say, political.

Personally, I found that Game Theory provided both for me. It was political and deep but still banged so hard musically that it was enjoyable even if the lyrical content was a little denser than we were used to from them.

But again I can understand how you may have viewed it from the perspective you speak of.


>Some people think that GT is their best or in the top 3 in
>their discography so the album must have really connected from
>the beginning with you.
>
>I think the three big songs (Don't Feel Right / In the Music /
>Here I Come) worked for me from the beginning, but the other
>songs took more time to sink in.
>
>Every album after Phrenology has been 'dark' or moody in some
>way and while I've come to appreciate them in their own way,
>my image of the band is still them in their DYWM and IH days
>where they were more vital and less reflective in their music.
>
>
>So, when the new albums come out I'm still filtering the new
>music through that old lens. Probably isn't fair to the group
>but that's what ends up happening.
>
>When I was younger, I preferred music that was more reflective
>or 'soulful', so I ought to be all over the new direction of
>the band. But it just hasn't clicked. I guess with adult
>responsibilities I look at music with more of an intent to
>escape. Not necessarily right probably, but that's where I'm
>at.

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16. "right now? exhibit c"
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regularly? sade and HER

America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

  

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17. "Binary star - light years apart."
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werd.

  

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21. "RE: Whatchu listenin to right now in the background?"
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Monk Higgins - Little Green Apples

  

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23. "Roy Ayers - I am your mind (part 2)"
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wow, didn't realize a bunch of new / re-issue / re-mastered Ubiquity albums came out last year.

so dope.

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24. "Creep"
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by Radiohead. They're an underground filipino dnb outfit. "Think About U" a couple minutes ago. Good work person

  

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25. "grant green - 'blues for lou'"
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26. "Lizzo - Coconut Oil"
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N/m

  

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27. "sir greendown - janelle monae"
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America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

  

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28. "Bandana Beats - Freddie Gibbs & Madlib"
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n/m

<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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29. "AFTA-1's Form LP"
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https://afta1.bandcamp.com/album/f-o-r-m

this album aged so damn well

  

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30. "Plair No.5"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dJfPup2aNc

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32. "Carlos Nino & Friends - Bliss on Dear Oneness"
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....I don't even know what genre this even is really.

Jazz I guess?!? Either way it sounds great while you are doing something else because it's groovy, but not boring.

Here is Esssssssence (Feat. Ishmael Butler & Jamael Dean)

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33. "GRIMES"
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Miss Anthropocene.

good music..


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34. "Chiiild - Synthetic Soul"
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35. "Scientist - Heavyweight Dub Champion"
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https://youtu.be/EWGWl7f4DBg

  

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36. "KNOWER - Overtime"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnEmD17kYsE

  

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37. "RE: Whatchu listenin to right now in the background?"
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Benny the Butcher - Butcher on Steroids

Right before that, I used Dangerdoom as a ‘pallet cleanser’ between Conway and Benny. I got challenged on a ‘Benny is my fav Griselda member’ take. I hadn’t done a thorough Conway catalog review. Now I have and it’s onto Benny!

And holy moly Doom was in a zone for Food and that shit with Danger Mouse. He should’ve come up more when everyone was making lists.

  

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38. "ive been getting caught up on damu the fudgmunk"
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at least as much as i can. i made a playlist on GPM with everything available. tried to set up chronologically and add albums that he produced but arent listed under his artist page.

its definitely a different vibe to mostly listen to only beats.

  

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40. "RE: ive been getting caught up on damu the fudgmunk"
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What's GPM?

-thebigfunk

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41. "google play music"
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42. "RE: google play music"
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thanks - i was going through all the services I could think of in my head and couldn't match it

If you are able to share a link to your playlist I'd like to see it - I did a pretty good dive into Damu last year but need more

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mista k5
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43. "its rough"
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im sure i have one or two albums on there twice but there are so many tracks that i cant figure out which ones lol

https://play.google.com/music/playlist/AMaBXynBy6H9lZi2aaidS7DZwW_Rfp8TecWgXKgRihW0e8NDJLbWXQDlUrMBJS9S0ykxTni1fnJKJ5sggqqYkZxo659YxAO8jg%3D%3D

not sure if you can listen to it without an account or paid account

if you see anything on it missing let me know. i definitely want to hear more albums he has produced that have rapping.

  

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39. "Justus League playlist i made"
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Median - How Big Is Your World?
Edgar Allen Floe - Faith in Love
LEGACY - I’m a Star
Little Brother - The Way You Do It
Away Team - The Shining
Etc.

All the classics!

  

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44. "totally outta the norm for me, but Rod Wave - Heart On Ice"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgHm0z84_CM

I can exaggerate often. But not here. This song has been on REPEAT pretty consistently for the last 3 days. I have even been listening to it in my sleep. And I don't usually listen to music to go to sleep or let it keep playing after the fact. Something about this young man, his pain, and this song has struck my SOUL. I'm not into the new rap kids music really, I mean of course, there have been some songs I've heard and liked here and there, but there hasn't been anyone or anything that I had a remote interest in and wanted to look into. I then decided to watch some interviews and played samples of his catalog, which tbh I'm not really feeling. But, I can tell that he's on his way to getting something really meaningful and impactful with the next album release or two. His debut was exec prod. by Kevin Gates (don't know his music) and from what I heard, he's got some expanding to do before he gets deep in his bag. I can see him going and growing SO far musically.

This is the Genius live version of the song, "Heart On Ice": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgHm0z84_CM

original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4AFVMFtgjc

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45. "i think im doing a prince paul dive next"
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already set up a playlist, good thing i have de la albums synced to google play music lol

  

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46. "I should do that too"
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It's been a while since I heard Prince of Thieves ... plus I need to hear more of his stray work again as well.

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mista k5
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48. "i think i need to modify my reply in the beasties thread"
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i thought i had heard prince among thieves before and thought it was okay. i listened to it on friday due to that discussion and the possibility that it might be the next vinylmeplease record of the month. it blew me away. if i had listened to it before i dont know why i wasnt feeling it.

it mostly sounded like a de la album but with other rappers. does paul write raps or have a heavy hand on what he wants rappers to do?

my modified answer might be that de la on their own is great, prince paul on his own is equally great and them together is perfection lol

  

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49. "Yea I bought it a couple years after its release and was disappointed to..."
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But admittedly my ears weren't very mature at that time so it took me growing up a little bit musically to appreciate it for its brilliance.

So when I revisited it later in high school I was blown away, too. Agree with your assessment that it's like a DLS album with other rappers haha.


>i thought i had heard prince among thieves before and thought
>it was okay. i listened to it on friday due to that discussion
>and the possibility that it might be the next vinylmeplease
>record of the month. it blew me away. if i had listened to it
>before i dont know why i wasnt feeling it.
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>it mostly sounded like a de la album but with other rappers.
>does paul write raps or have a heavy hand on what he wants
>rappers to do?

Don't think he writes but someone in the other thread mentioned how DLS left Paul after BMS cuz he was he was too controlling, for lack of a better way to put it. I'd never heard that before but it would lend credence to your question above, and would make it sound to me that it would be the latter of your two possibilities.


>my modified answer might be that de la on their own is great,
>prince paul on his own is equally great and them together is
>perfection lol

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50. "i was reading an interview with him"
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he said for prince among thieves he told the rappers what to rap about. what the story was and what he was looking for from each of their characters.

one of the interviews was this one, cant remember what the other one was
https://music.avclub.com/prolific-producer-prince-paul-on-almost-being-fired-de-1798237198

AVC: So that beat works because it fits the demo theme. How much of the rest of the production on that album changed to fit the lyrical themes of the broader story?

PP: That one, the hook happened to work for that particular song. But initially, for the rest of the album, I just told MCs what to rhyme about. It was like “This is the concept, rhyme about the concept.” I lucked out because they figured it out. They understood it and were able to write toward that, and then I would just produce the song around that, whether it was the hook or sound effects or whatever other arrangement to make it work in the story.

looks like on Negroes On Ice he did write raps with his son but definitely seemed like that wasnt a normal thing for him. so yeah i guess he has an idea or concept and will tell rappers what he has in mind but will also work around what rappers want to do and do what he can to enhance it.

  

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51. "Dope. Thanks. That makes sense obviously cuz it's his album."
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52. "okay in this interview he says he gave them lines"
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kind of confusing but im guessing kane wasnt just spitting lines someone else wrote so it was something in-between. the way they have this interview broken up is odd but theres so much great stuff in it.

https://www.complex.com/music/2011/12/prince-paul-tells-all-the-stories-behind-his-classic-records-part-2/prince-paul-a-prince-among-thieves-1999
Prince Paul: “What’s weird was that Psychoanalysis kind of created this weird buzz. Monica Lynch, who I’ve always had a great relationship at Tommy Boy, said, ‘I really like this Psychoanalysis record. I want to re-release it. And if you’re ever going to do any type of record as creative as this, we’ll do it. And I was like, ‘Hold on—I can do any record I want to do?’ She said, ‘Yeah.’

“The reason they wanted to sign me wasn’t even for record sales. It was for the fact that the departments over there were bored. Now they had this marketing machine of getting an artist, getting a pop record, and everybody was basically generating the same old. So they wanted to bring me in there to make things different. It boosts things around, changes things, and gets things creative. So I took advantage of it.


I said I wanted to make a movie on wax. I wanted to make an adults’ kid album. I actually proposed this idea to Russell Simmons in the early ’90s. I remember this clearly, Russell might not remember this, but I do. He said, ‘Okay, demo it up for me.’ I was like, ‘I can’t demo it up. It’s an idea. It’s a concept. It’s a children’s record.’ And he didn’t want to mess with it.


“I proposed the idea of A Prince Among Thieves. I said I wanted to make a movie on wax. I wanted to make an adults’ kid album. I actually proposed this idea to Russell Simmons in the early ’90s. I remember this clearly, Russell might not remember this, but I do. He said, ‘Okay, demo it up for me.’ I was like, ‘I can’t demo it up. It’s an idea. It’s a concept. It’s a children’s record.’ And he didn’t want to mess with it.

"So I finally got the opportunity. I wrote a story, scripted it out in my weak writing attempt. I’ve watched a whole lot of b-class movies. I was like, ‘Yo, I’m going to take every scene from every bad movie I watched, the cliché scenes, and put all of this in one story.’

“So I had to find somebody to play the lead. Breeze Brewin’ was a dude, years back, was signed to this label that asked me to remix a lot of his stuff. That was when I first got exposed to the Juggaknots. The record never came out, and he just kind of faded to obscurity. So I did some research, found his number, cold called him mad years later. He was like, ‘Who’s this?’ I said, ‘It’s Prince Paul.’ He didn’t believe that it was me initially, but we were able to get it popping.

“As we were building, I wanted to get Chino XL as the other lead character. I mentioned Chino XL to Breeze, because I was a big Chino XL fan. But people really didn’t like Chino XL. I know dudes who despised that dude. I thought he was incredible. But for some reason it just didn’t pan out. And every time I mentioned getting Chino XL other people were just like, “Eh…”

"So to make it easier there was a guy who was around my way named Sha, who just had the right voice. And it would be easier. Getting Chino would be difficult to work with him because he lived…I forgot where he was at the time, but it wasn’t close.


I wanted to get Chino XL as the other lead character. I mentioned Chino XL to Breeze, because I was a big Chino XL fan. But people really didn’t like Chino XL. I know dudes who despised that dude. I thought he was incredible. But for some reason it just didn’t pan out.


“Notice how I said a lot of cats weren’t interested in working with me anymore? And A Prince Among Thieves had a lot of cats who were underground, not mainstream heavyweights at the time. They were a lot of cats from back in my era, who in the late ’90s, weren’t as popping.

“And cats needed checks. We’ve had mutual respect for one another, but at the same time nobody rhymed for free. So that was more or less the thing. Like, ‘Yo, I’m doing this song, and I’ve got a budget.’ I didn’t tell people about the script or what exactly I was doing.

"Matter of fact, Kane didn’t know until further down the line. I remember he was on BET, and they asked him, ‘So when Paul put the record together…?’ And he couldn’t answer any questions, because he didn’t know anything. I just gave him the lines, and I recorded them, and I just put his parts where they matched.

“I gave the guys the script, the lines, found all the people for the parts it’d fit, and contacted them. Some people I got, some people I didn’t. I tried to get Vanilla Ice, but got dissed. His manager was like, 'Nope.' I wanted to put him in the jail scene with Sadat X and Xzibit. Imagine Vanilla Ice spitting some ill lines, like hardcore rhymes. People would lose their minds.

“I contacted everybody, and I told them what the concept of the song is, wrote it, never told them what the album was about, and they’d come in, they would read the lines, and I would take it home, piece it together. I would sample things, I would have a little sequencer, and remember no Pro Tools at the time. So I spent a lot of time making that record. If it was up to me, and if I had the money, I would’ve had DMX as the villain, but I didn’t have the budget or the respect for that.


I tried to get Vanilla Ice, but got dissed. His manager was like, “Nope.” I wanted to put him in the jail scene with Sadat X and Xzibit. Imagine Vanilla Ice spitting some ill lines, like hardcore rhymes. People would lose their minds.


“Somebody came up to me and said Sticky Fingaz’ Blacktrash: The Autobiography of Kirk Jones, was similar in concept to A Prince Among Thieves. Then MTV does that Carmen thing with Beyonce. I was like, ‘What? Look at this. Nobody was thinking nothing like this!’

"The sad thing is when my record came out, Tommy Boy literally sat on it for a year, and they didn’t know what to do with it. I handed the album in February of 1998, and it didn't come out until February of 1999. I remember playing it for the staff, and everybody was like, ‘Okay…’ They didn’t get it. It wasn’t on top priority. So very little money was put into that.

“That video trailer was shot with like 15 grand or whatever. And that was when everybody was making million-dollar videos. I was trying to sell Tom Silverman the concept like, ‘Yo, let’s do what Master P did with ’Bout It, ’Bout It. Let’s just do a low-budget movie. I’ll get all these people here to shoot a film, and it’ll be crazy.’ He said, ‘Nope.’

"I couldn’t even get a T-shirt. I had to get Levi’s to make T-shirts for me. They didn't want to invest in it; they didn’t see anything in it. It was a record for them to build morale around the office. It wasn’t a record to sell. So when it came out with all this critical acclaim, it wasn’t until the end when the hype died down, guys at Tommy Boy were like, ‘That was a great record! Do it again!’ Like, how?”

its two parts, this is part one
https://www.complex.com/music/2011/12/prince-paul-tells-all-the-stories-behind-his-classic-records-part-1/stetsasonic-sally-1988

  

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47. "been listening to Westside Gunn all day"
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on Hitler Wears Hermes 3 now

next going to listen to Cook$ - Reasonable Drought (produced by Roc Marciano

  

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