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falafel stand pimpin
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"Was Killer Mike the worst member of dungeon family?"


  

          

It's crazy seeing all his success now... I thought he ranked toward the bottom in the DF lineup. Maybe he was better than slim Calhoun or backbone but that's about it. What say you?

  

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maybe not technically the worst but i liked his music the least.
Jan 26th 2019
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No.
Jan 26th 2019
2
I Always Felt Like The Group "Parental Advisory" Wasn't That Good
Jan 26th 2019
3
PA is actually really good.
Jan 26th 2019
6
J.O.L. is my dude!
Jan 28th 2019
17
There's 2 generations of Dungeon Family
Jan 26th 2019
4
I'm not mad at that.
Jan 28th 2019
21
T Mo and Khujo are highly underrated
Jan 31st 2019
27
^^^ This is a good breakdown of what T-Mo & Khujo brought to the table
Jan 31st 2019
30
KHUJO??!!?
Feb 02nd 2019
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Khujo's verse from 'Kast's "Mainstream" body all of Mike's bars
Feb 07th 2019
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Lol, not hardly.
Jan 26th 2019
5
RE: Lol, not hardly.
Jan 26th 2019
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      T-Mo has some memorable ass verses lol
Jan 27th 2019
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      I agree with this totally
Jan 28th 2019
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      LEGALIZE THE DOPE AND MAKE PAPER!!!
Jan 28th 2019
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      Decisions was a dope ass song
Jan 30th 2019
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      T-Mo was my least favorite on the "Soul Food" album
Jan 28th 2019
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Maybe in an alternate universe
Jan 27th 2019
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I’m not a big Killer Mike fan but not at all...
Jan 27th 2019
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Bruh that album so damn dope!
Jan 28th 2019
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Yeah, that Witchdoctor album was so underrated. n/m
Jan 28th 2019
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At least we can say it was never slept on here.
Jan 28th 2019
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Yes.
Jan 28th 2019
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The 20th anniversary was last April.
Feb 02nd 2019
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I still play “Dez Only 1”....those background vocals are magical
Jan 28th 2019
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was just listening to this yesterday
Jan 31st 2019
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That would be Future.
Jan 28th 2019
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I guess I have to go with the "five duece four tray" guy
Jan 28th 2019
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Backbone!
Jan 28th 2019
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Backbone had his moments but was pretty basic
Jan 28th 2019
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      Speaking of, he's on one of the new Big Boi songs dropping 2moro
Jan 31st 2019
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hell nah
Jan 29th 2019
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So this DF reunion tour....Atlanta 4/20
Feb 06th 2019
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I'm not sure it'll top the reunion from ONE Musicfest a few years ago.
Feb 07th 2019
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      It might not. But it’s DF, so I’m there
Feb 10th 2019
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      Yeah, I couldn't make the Buckhead Theater show.
Feb 10th 2019
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      It might not. But it’s DF, so I’m there
Feb 10th 2019
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Reeq
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1. "maybe not technically the worst but i liked his music the least."
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hes benefited a lot from the weaker field of competition that currently exists.

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2. "No."
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Not at all.

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3. "I Always Felt Like The Group "Parental Advisory" Wasn't That Good"
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I never thought of Killer Mike as a weak link in that collective, but I also was never big on Outkast either, and I never cared for Cee-Lo Green either (his voice was always annoying as hell back then), also there was another kat on the album named C-Bone who I thought was weak too.

Many people forget about Parental Advisory (Big Reese, K-Axe, & Mello) being apart of the Dungeon Family, I never heard their first album but I did hear their second one and it wasn't good to me at all, a few southern funky beats but it was very bland.

Anyway, I've always wondered why another ATL rapper who was close to the Dungeon Family named Jawz Of Life wasn't an official member, I end up getting his cd "First Breath" and thought it was dope (even featured Witchdoctor & T-Mo on it); after the album came out I didn't hear from him until this year when I found he had an bandcamp page https://music.jawzoflife.com


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6. "PA is actually really good."
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Clearly, you would need to be into that kinda music. Their first album sounds like...what you think 1992 sounds like. It's crazy to think ONP went from that to Southernplayalistic.

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17. "J.O.L. is my dude! "
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My homeboy used to work with him, and I used to play his music when I had an online radio show.

I got some stuff he put out before the First Breath album...now I wanna go dig that stuff up




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4. "There's 2 generations of Dungeon Family"
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....of which you can hear on the last song of the Dungeon Family album that Mike is 2nd gen, but whatever.....Mike is by far the best of that bunch (tho I always liked Slimm Calhoun)

...even still,I might get some hate for this, but Mike is better than T-Mo or Khujo ever were.

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21. "I'm not mad at that."
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>...even still, I might get some hate for this, but Mike is
>better than T-Mo or Khujo ever were.

  

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27. "T Mo and Khujo are highly underrated "
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Mic presence and voice are underrated skills in emceeing. Khujo particularly is a master of mic presence. His voice is also amazingly distinctive. Mike is a better songwriter than both, but T Mo and Khujo also have very inventive ways of phrasing (another overlooked lyrical ability...how they wrote their Cell Therapy verses differs from how anyone else would have wrote those lines on the same subject). I always felt like people were too hard on these two. Cee Lo was so talented that people acted like T and K weren’t bringing significant creativity to the table as well (and I prefer Cee Lo in GM to Solo).

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30. "^^^ This is a good breakdown of what T-Mo & Khujo brought to the table"
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Khujo was always my favorite Goodie member.

The way he sets of "Guess Who" couldn't be matched by anyone.

  

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31. "KHUJO??!!?"
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Yikes!

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35. "Khujo's verse from 'Kast's "Mainstream" body all of Mike's bars"
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Khujo got classic verses. Mike is nice and he's polished....but he ain't seeing Khujo.

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5. "Lol, not hardly."
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Take my Killer Mike/OutKast stanship with a grain of salt.

I think his original stall-out was due to people wanting something OutKast related to have OutKast on every song. Pretty much when people said they were DF fans and reviewed every non-Kast album like "It's a good album, even though Andre 3000 doesn't show up anywhere."

He did well by aligning with getting to release music through there, to a more open-minded crowd that may not have, or still may not know shit about his connection to OutKast. They probably think/thought "Oh, this is a dope rapper they say is from Atlanta, and I can understand what he's saying." El-P probably got him more rappity-rap fans that probably wouldn't give southern rap a chance, even if it was OutKast.

T-Mo was and still is the worst out of any of the "Generations" of the DF. That's including Future (went by Meathead back then).

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7. "RE: Lol, not hardly."
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In the context of the group T-Mo was great. Tell me something wack he laid down on the first two albums (anything after that don't matter)

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10. "T-Mo has some memorable ass verses lol"
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He set some of those joints off lovely!

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“None of my homies carried guns all I had was a stick!”

And his verse on Mainstream is the shit!

  

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11. "I agree with this totally"
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>In the context of the group T-Mo was great. Tell me something
>wack he laid down on the first two albums (anything after that
>don't matter)

as long as his verse is being followed by or is preceded by one of the DF rappers T-Mo is excellent because his verses fill a space, and usually in the context of the song fits. outside of Goodie Mob T-Mo was type wack to me.



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13. "LEGALIZE THE DOPE AND MAKE PAPER!!!"
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nm

  

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26. "Decisions was a dope ass song"
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16. "T-Mo was my least favorite on the "Soul Food" album"
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I'm not saying he was wack but out of the 4, he was last on my list.

But on "Still Standing," he made huge strides. I thought that he made a noticeable jump between the 2 albums.

  

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8. "Maybe in an alternate universe"
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9. "I’m not a big Killer Mike fan but not at all..."
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I will say that Witchdoctor has the most slept on album from the entire crew.

  

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12. "Bruh that album so damn dope!"
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15. "Yeah, that Witchdoctor album was so underrated. n/m"
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19. "At least we can say it was never slept on here. "
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>I will say that Witchdoctor has the most slept on album from
>the entire crew.

There was definitely some magic there, but I understand he was a tough act to promote to the general public.

  

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22. "Yes."
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32. "The 20th anniversary was last April."
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https://twitter.com/UrkelMoeDee/status/987802506729172993

  

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23. "I still play “Dez Only 1”....those background vocals are magical "
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28. "was just listening to this yesterday"
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a classic in my mind. ancient sahore is amazing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKPZGSvhrhQ

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14. "That would be Future."
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18. "I guess I have to go with the "five duece four tray" guy"
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I found everyone else on the roster intriguing on some level.

  

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20. "Backbone!"
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24. "Backbone had his moments but was pretty basic"
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Had some dope guest features with Goodie MoB. Joint on the Set It Off soundtrack and on their Still Standing LP.

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29. "Speaking of, he's on one of the new Big Boi songs dropping 2moro"
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- Return of The Dope Boi (Feat. Killer Mike & Backbone)
- Doin' It (Feat. Sleepy Brown)

Listen to both: http://hiphopgame.ihiphop.com/2019/01/31/big-boi-drops-off-two-new-singles/

Hopefully this means that we'll get the other half of the Big Boi album that was cut to make Boomiverse a single disc. There's a track with Janelle Monae that I wanna hear badly.

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25. "hell nah"
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33. "So this DF reunion tour....Atlanta 4/20"
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What’s the worst that could happen?

  

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34. "I'm not sure it'll top the reunion from ONE Musicfest a few years ago."
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Where it was EVERYBODY. I'm definitely going, but quelling expectations for Dre to show up. I just don't wanna set myself up for disappointment months in advance.

There's been a lot of "reunion" concerts here in the past few months, so I don't want this one to feel like an afterthought.

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36. "It might not. But it’s DF, so I’m there"
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Was there for the first Goodie reunion show in 09. Kast in 14. DF in 16. Hell I even went to this random ass event at Buckhead Theatre that ended up being a Sleepy Brown showcase. His dad was there on sax. They performed EMBRACE from the Society of Soul album - Cee Lo hopped on bgv...it was soooo random

  

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38. "Yeah, I couldn't make the Buckhead Theater show."
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It did seem hella random, lol.

I bullshitted and missed "At Last", too, but I don't like to think about that. Easily the worst year of my life.

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37. "It might not. But it’s DF, so I’m there"
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Was there for the first Goodie reunion show in 09. Kast in 14. DF in 16. Hell I even went to this random ass event at Buckhead Theatre that ended up being a Sleepy Brown showcase. His dad was there on sax. They performed EMBRACE from the Society of Soul album - Cee Lo on bgv...it was soooo random

  

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