https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.45933/title.yasiin-bey-announces-black-star-album-produced-by-madlib

shouts to Yasin Bey as well as Talib lol and Madlib for geting somethinng brewing..

i made a post not to long ago about Mos and Comm running with the BlackStar movement and jokingly tried to exclude Talib from the project..of course there aint a BlackStar without Talib lol
but if this is real life..yall niggaros better not drop the ball with the Common features..we gonna need atleast 3 to 4 songs with The God on it!!

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your sig is missing Terence Crawford, lol.

Only cat to be undisputed in the last decade or so.

Put some respeck on his name fam!

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>your sig is missing Terence Crawford, lol.
>
>Only cat to be undisputed in the last decade or so.
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>Put some respeck on his name fam!
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>
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Crawford is dope hell of a back story
but nah he nah want none with either Thurman or Spence

Big swing swing with bangers and thing thingers Soul glo zinging all over the ring finger

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>Crawford is dope hell of a back story
>but nah he nah want none with either Thurman or Spence

LOL. Thurman doesn't want it with Spence.
Dude is talking hella scary right now.
We'll see when Crawford gets cooking at 147 tho.
After the pressure, Thurman CLAIMS he'll fight
Spence in his 3rd fight from now. We'll see
about that too.

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>>Crawford is dope hell of a back story
>>but nah he nah want none with either Thurman or Spence
>
>LOL. Thurman doesn't want it with Spence.
>Dude is talking hella scary right now.
>We'll see when Crawford gets cooking at 147 tho.
>After the pressure, Thurman CLAIMS he'll fight
>Spence in his 3rd fight from now. We'll see
>about that


After beating both Porter and Garcia he really doesnt have much to proove in his division..honestly id rather see a rematch between him and Porter..

Big swing swing with bangers and thing thingers Soul glo zinging all over the ring finger

Spence..M.Garcia..Thurman..Lomachenko

>After beating both Porter and Garcia he really doesnt have
>much to proove in his division..honestly id rather see a
>rematch between him and Porter..

There's a new champ in his division.
He either proves he's the best there or he
doesn't. He may not have "much" to prove,
but he's gotta prove that. If he's above the
division, he should move up to 154. If not,
he's gotta see Errol Spence to prove he's the best...
especially after all that "DON'T DUCK ME SON"
stuff he talked when he was hungry.
I mean, you list another guy IN HIS DIVISION
as another one of the best doing it.
They HAVE to see each other or it makes a
joke of the sport, right?

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>>After beating both Porter and Garcia he really doesnt have
>>much to proove in his division..honestly id rather see a
>>rematch between him and Porter..
>
>There's a new champ in his division.
>He either proves he's the best there or he
>doesn't. He may not have "much" to prove,
>but he's gotta prove that. If he's above the
>division, he should move up to 154. If not,
>he's gotta see Errol Spence to prove he's the best...
>especially after all that "DON'T DUCK ME SON"
>stuff he talked when he was hungry.
>I mean, you list another guy IN HIS DIVISION
>as another one of the best doing it.
>They HAVE to see each other or it makes a
>joke of the sport, right?
>
>

but does Thurman really have to fight Spence right now?Mayweather never fought Thurman when he was in the position that Spence is in now..i do agree its a must they eventually meet in the ring i just dont see why its a rush from Thurmans perspective.

Spence vs one of the Charlo brothers would be dope..

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>but does Thurman really have to fight Spence right
>now?Mayweather never fought Thurman when he was in the
>position that Spence is in now..i do agree its a must they
>eventually meet in the ring i just dont see why its a rush
>from Thurmans perspective.


He's supposedly coming off an injury, so I'd say most fans expect him to take a couple of tune-up bouts before stepping in for a true title fight, but he doesn't have the "pretty boy Floyd" stage of Mayweather's career to be acting like he's on the "money Mayweather" level. Plus, Mayweather isn't the model example to follow anyway, as I don't recall him being undisputed. Alotta his actions are worthy of criticism as well.


>Spence vs one of the Charlo brothers would be dope..
>

That's pretty impossible at this point. The Charlo brothers fight at 154 and 160, respectively, and Spence is at 147. Spence and the smaller Charlo also have the same trainer.

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>shouts to Yasin Bey as well as Talib lol and Madlib for geting
>somethinng brewing..
>
>i made a post not to long ago about Mos and Comm running with
>the BlackStar movement and jokingly tried to exclude Talib
>from the project..of course there aint a BlackStar without
>Talib lol
>but if this is real life..yall niggaros better not drop the
>ball with the Common features..we gonna need atleast 3 to 4
>songs with The God on it!!

Detox to come a month after both of those. Can't wait.

Anyway - even if we're to pretend that this WILL ever happen: I'm as big a Common fan as there is, but 1 feature would be fine.

Also, why no HiTek ? I mean Revolutions Per Minute sucked largely because of his questionable (at best) production so I'd rather see Madlib do the (alleged) BlackStar follow up ... but wasn't HiTek considered a member of BlackStar ? I may be remembering that wrong.

And lastly wasn't Mos supposed to drop 2 retirement albums or something ? Like 2 years ago ?

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>Also, why no HiTek ? I mean Revolutions Per Minute sucked
>largely because of his questionable (at best) production so
>I'd rather see Madlib do the (alleged) BlackStar follow up ...
>but wasn't HiTek considered a member of BlackStar ? I may be
>remembering that wrong.

Tek I believe produced 5 or 6 tracks and the rest were Beatminerz, 88-Keys, J. Rawls, Shawn J. Period, and Geology.

I think the "Black Star" moniker applies just to Mos and Kweli. I wouldn't mind a Hi-Tek track or two if a new Black Star album ever came out, but he's had such a drastic fall from beatmaking grace.


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I just thought he was considered like honorary or whatever. Def wrong tho.

>Tek I believe produced 5 or 6 tracks and the rest were
>Beatminerz, 88-Keys, J. Rawls, Shawn J. Period, and Geology.

Yea now that you mention the above producers I definitely knew this.


>I think the "Black Star" moniker applies just to Mos and
>Kweli. I wouldn't mind a Hi-Tek track or two if a new Black
>Star album ever came out, but he's had such a drastic fall
>from beatmaking grace.

Yea totally agreed. Glad to know it wouldn't necessarily be like, a sign of disrespect to him to have Madlib do the job. And sounds like we agree that Madlib would def do a better job hah.

I posted about this before but man oh man - HiTek was on a fast track to be in the GOAT producer conversation. Then he fell apart. Almost inexplicably. His early work, up through maybe HiTeknology2, was nearly impeccable. His Rawkus work is just mind-numbingly good.

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I should've clarified originally ... I knew he wasn't part of the "title" of the BlackStar album but I thought he was kind of an unofficial member and was the sole producer on that album, or at least that he did the vast majority.

I was wrong. And once corrected I realized that I actually was well aware that there were several producers who took part in the BlackStar album.

Getting old and forgetful sucks. Haha.

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And also, it might be too late for this.
Black Star was 20 years ago now

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If it knocks, it's never too late.

>And also, it might be too late for this.

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its more common now for an artist to just drop an album when its done than announce it ahead of time.

definitely feel like this may be one of those that just keeps getting delayed and never actually drops. if they at least announce a date that is only a couple months away then i will start getting excited.

as far as the quality, i havent kept up with mad lib and only a bit more with kweli. if they are all focused it could be dope.

>definitely feel like this may be one of those that just keeps
>getting delayed and never actually drops.

This post will get upped a few times over the next couple of years "any news on this ?" then we'll all forget about it again. Just like ... always. Haha.

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hoping you're wrong though

>hoping you're wrong though

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Big IF, of course..

but

Black Star good
The Ecstatic good
Liberation good

It just needs to come out

Let's see, Talib has done an entire album with Madlib, and Mos has done a few songs with Madlib but no entire album with him though.

Mos' track record for doing what he says he is going to do hasn't always panned out, especially when it comes to him recording music, we always want to best for him but half the time he flakes out on getting with certain rappers or producers or the end result is one or two songs when we were promised more than half an album; which is what I'm thinking this will be, about 60% Madlib production, and less than 40% of Talib rhyming on it, while Mos doing more singing than rapping.

I'll believe it when I see the cd in my hands and listening to it.

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They had a project a couple years back, and it never dropped because as Kweli put it "they couldn't decide how they wanted to release it".

The even performed "Fix Up" on Jimmy Fallon to promote it.

So this album is prolly an updated version of whatever that project was.

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We're supposed to forget about that one?

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yawn

Ok, ATCQ did it, and shut us all up

but I'm still not holding my breath

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...may give this some extra validity but then I started thinking of all the supposed projects Madlib has had coming that never dropped and I became sad.


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You weren't holding your breath, were you?.....

From the Rappcats newsletter:

News – at Madlib's show in Denver this weekend, Yasiin Bey joined the Beat Konducta on stage and announced a forthcoming Blackstar album, to be produced by Madlib. The following day, Madlib, Bey & Talib Kweli got together and talked about how they might make it happen. We'll keep you updated.

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>The following day,
>Madlib, Bey & Talib Kweli got together and talked about how
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It was also pretty telling that rappcats/Madlib had to quickly place that on the website and send out an e-mail blast for that purpose as well.

I have to wonder what was going through Madlib's head when Mos Def announced that live on stage.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

>RE: The key placement of that word might.

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......this aint 1999, we aint on the edge of our seat **mjpocorn.gif'** for this shit anymore ...you got Madlib with ENDLESS beats to choose from ...pick TEN and drop your verses over them, send back to the Beat Conducta to add some final touches and BOOM ...album DONE


The shit ain't THAT hard..

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Just do a normal concert and DON'T get so excited that you start promising albums that have never been discussed before and won't ever be discussed again.

That's even simpler !

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>Just do a normal concert and DON'T get so excited that you
>start promising albums that have never been discussed before
>and won't ever be discussed again.
>
>That's even simpler !

IKR

Reminds me of when he said him, Black Thought, and King Los would destroy any other 3 emcees in a battle.. they could do it on pay per view and everything..

Then backed down when Lupe took up his challenge

lol

>IKR
>
>Reminds me of when he said him, Black Thought, and King Los
>would destroy any other 3 emcees in a battle.. they could do
>it on pay per view and everything..
>
>Then backed down when Lupe took up his challenge
>
>lol

Good god. What a weird career. lol

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with the collaboraters and discussed?!?!?


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

we all know why Madlib's output aint as dense on Rapcats as much as it was on Stones Throw for pretty obvious reasons...

let's get that understood first

I'm glad to hear that he is, but yeah that makes a ton of sense.

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that departure from Stones Throw was so quiet that I didn't put it together until years after. Come to find out Stones Throw been dealing with crazy lawsuits.

I will get my hopes up but I’m not holding my breath.

I’ll believe it when I hear it.

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Yasiin Bey Debuts His First Recorded Verse From The Upcoming Black Star Album
https://genius.com/a/yasiin-bey-debuts-his-first-recorded-verse-from-the-upcoming-black-star-album?utm_source=home_featured_latest_stories

"After teasing the project earlier this month, Yasiin Bey went a step further on Thursday night by performing a new verse during Madlib’s DJ set at Noise Pop Festival in San Francisco."

Here's the direct reddit link:
https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/7zslds/new_verse_mos_def_performs_a_new_verse_from_black/

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Either it’s gonna get released or not. All this fan pressure (half kidding or not) is why a lot of these sensitive artists are in hiding in the first place. I hope they drop it. If they don’t, c’est la vie

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>I need to hear an actual track. They don’t even gotta hit
>me with a full LP. Give me an EP and I’m happy.

I wish these folks would just drop stuff..especially once they’ve gone through the effort to lay down the work needed. Having canned albums lost in a weird abyss doesn’t make sense to me unless they don’t like what they created. Hopefully it’s some basic business stuff that can be worked through.

Kweli has posted twice so far today saying that album is done but Madlib's lawyers and management are holding things up.
I'm surprised Egon would be the problem, but that's who he's calling out.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCXJvMgA4XK/?igshid=r211wkvtaful

I'm tired of being silent about this. I tried my best y'all. Flew around the globe. Paid for this out of pocket. All for the culture. I'm a fan of Black Star too. I want to see this come out as bad as y'all do, or more. But people who never made a beat, never wrote a rhyme in they life got they fingers in the pie and are being disrespectful to what me and my brothers built. It's in Gods hands now. I'm on to other things, life is too short to be disrespected by culture vultures. Maybe y'all will get to hear this album after I'm gone.

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Edit: he deleted it.

In other words hopefully the folks holding this up got the message and will work harder to make sure this sees the light of day.

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Ya I'm wondering if that is the case. Today he posted a photo of him & Madlib with the caption "Brother gonna work it out"
I'm thinking him airing out the situation publicly got the wheels in motion.
Again, not holding my breath, but we can all have some hope!

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...but it's label execs aka management aka E. dragging their feet on this, I wonder why though, is the album not as good as they want it to be, are they waiting cause of the covid-19 issues and artists not traveling & doing concerts to promote any albums (even though with these three kats, do they even need to do heavy touring, just word of mouth should make the album sell alone, and do some touring in 2021) but whatever the reason maybe this album will drop before the end of the year.

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on the Gilles Peterson show. He and Madlibe discussed a plethora of music topics, including the Black Star album. It was a good interview:
I posted this in a different thread months ago but here it is again:
https://worldwidefm.net/show/gilles-peterson-with-madlib-and-egon/

On a related note, didn't Talib keep Res' album from coming out, which led to legal action and the airing out of dirty laundry on social media? Like, Talib tried to kiss Res at a pool or something along those lines?

The first Reflection Eternal album is one of the most important albums of my life so I will always respect Kweli for that. Having said that, I haven't looked at Kweli the same since the Res incident.

I'd like to know more about what Egon is or is not doing.

'Til then I'm neutral on this specific matter.

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"Just stay loose, keep it raw, and bang ya drums out sometimes." - Madlib

I don't know who else it could be.

That said, why would Egon fuck up the money in this situation? Following up BlakStar after the latest Madlib x Gibbs album just seems like a no brainer.

Plus with no shows anytime soon, you think Rappcats would wanna keep the train rolling after starting the year off so strong.

That said, Kweli's post seems to point in the direction of them figuring it out....and since album rollouts don't really exist anymore I hope we can hear the album sooner than later.

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...but from where I sit, it looks like Madlib's career has been managed pretty well.

People can call it what they will, but I would imagine that Kweli probably stands to make more money from this project and to ultimately win in the end if he's patient and lets people do what they do on his behalf.

Not a bad observation at all. Egon seems very professional and appears to be a person with solid integrity. I really wish we knew more about what's going on...

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given the relative quick pace Gibbs was able to release two albums with Madlib and the fact he had legal problems hold him up with Pinata while both Mos/Yasiin and Talib to my knowledge haven't had any reasons for the material to get held up is a bit odd to me.

I guess the one positive aspect to this is that all the pent up demand for the project should result in great sales.

I wonder which label will release this project when the dust settles. Still wild that Kweli would call someone involved with this a culture vulture. Have to wonder what kind of damage that comment did behind the scenes.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

https://youtu.be/mIWNJBCkVvo

Even though I stopped checking for Kwelis music a long time ago I'm really exited to hear this.

https://youtu.be/HcrFl0Urd-4

<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

I mean, i feel him on not fucking with streaming platforms, I also think they fuck artists over. And I buy tons of new vinyl. Still buy mp3s off bandcamp and itunes. But/and homie is big mad, like he's not talking to his friend in that interview. He could very reasonably explain his position without being like "yo, man fuck these fans"

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Best analogy was forbidding people to place a steering wheel on his back.


werd.

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I'm not sure why Mos Def is so mad when radio has been paying artists part of a penny for playing their music on the radio so why is he now getting mad at streaming services for paying less than a penny for play when there was a time people was so fed up with radio and starting sharing and letting others download entire albums & discographies of an artist/groups without paying a dime or even a penny.

No, nobody should be happy to get a fraction of a penny everytime a song or album gets play but at least it's better than nothing.

Maybe this is why he was so happy to stop making albums with Rawkus/Universal Records, cause he wanted a bigger piece of the pie from his hardwork, I just wish Mos would stop thinking he's someone like the biggest recorded artist on the planet and everyone is waiting for him to release new music & will throw money at him like a stripper to hear it; shit I was pissed & waited two years before I purchased the "True Magic" cd cause it didn't come with artwork, no booklet, no info other than what was printed on the top of the disc itself, and they expected people to pay regular price for that shit...smh.

I'm I still hyped they got something on the way, but after all these years, I'm patient to where when it drops, it drops, and I'll still be skeptical if it would be worth even purchasing until I hear it for myself.

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“Why should they be mad at a fraction of a penny when they used to get a penny to be on radio”

Because it’s a fraction of what they used to get paid LOL

Not to mention that commercial radio play reaches more people per spin than probably a thousand streams, if not 10,000.

You would think there would be more artist collective owned streaming sites? If just the artists on Okayplayer alone had a streaming site for their catalog and new music, seems like they could get a decent subscription base at a modest cost? Would y’all pay, say, five bucks a month to stream catalog play exclusive new music from The Roots, D’Angelo, Erykah, and affiliated acts? I bet they could get a bunch of other people on board. Kweli would probably be with it. The Dilla estate. Jay tried this with Tidal, but somehow I think it would work better from the grassroots working its way up to bigger artists because underground fans would seem more loyal to the concept of their favorite artists bucking the system than richer artists like Jay, then they could build it up towards getting bigger artists on board (not saying guys like D’Angelo count as underground, but you can follow the logic, he sure isn’t viewed as being as commercial as Jay)

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Radio singles do not = streaming entire albums in any way shape or form.


And he never claimed to be the world's biggest artist or anything...he just wants value for his art.


Which I think is what loses a lot of heads.


to some folks, this music is a product for them to demand (see: so salty over no artwork you refuse to purchase an album of an artist you like)

But the best artists consider it....art.

I think having preferences, a wish list, etc as fans is completely normal.

But I'll never understand people getting mad over an artist valuing their art.

i wonder why this hasnt happened with the streaming site idea...i always also wondered why puffy, jay, will and other rich rappers didnt get together and start their own distribution company...maybe there's more to it than i realize but it seems like a sound venture...they could put something together that would more benefit black artists. where did tidal go wrong?


>You would think there would be more artist collective owned
>streaming sites? If just the artists on Okayplayer alone had a
>streaming site for their catalog and new music, seems like
>they could get a decent subscription base at a modest cost?
>Would y’all pay, say, five bucks a month to stream catalog
>play exclusive new music from The Roots, D’Angelo, Erykah,
>and affiliated acts? I bet they could get a bunch of other
>people on board. Kweli would probably be with it. The Dilla
>estate. Jay tried this with Tidal, but somehow I think it
>would work better from the grassroots working its way up to
>bigger artists because underground fans would seem more loyal
>to the concept of their favorite artists bucking the system
>than richer artists like Jay, then they could build it up
>towards getting bigger artists on board (not saying guys like
>D’Angelo count as underground, but you can follow the logic,
>he sure isn’t viewed as being as commercial as Jay)
>
>Peace,
>
>Spirit (Alan)
>http://wutangbook.com

>No, nobody should be happy to get a fraction of a penny
>everytime a song or album gets play but at least it's better
>than nothing.
>

I wouldn't say this to any artist, athlete, employee, laborer, or literally anyone.

"at least its better than nothing" ?


They don't owe you shit.

Label/distro/streaming debates on this project aside, Kweli's joint w/Diamond D earlier this year was pretty lackluster imo ... the whole project felt phoned in but a lot of his rhyming was just sloppy and uninteresting. I don't remember a single cut.

And I can't think of a single standout verse from him in a while, let alone a song that he helped really make. (His extra-musical persona doesn't help, lol, but I do my best to keep it separate.)

I'll take Mos over Madlib beats any day, including now, but do we really think that that BlackStar magic is just going to magically manifest? Hard to get excited about a potential project that is a) lost in weeds that at least seem to be partially of their own making and b) a crucial component of the potential project is, more often than not, a slog to listen to.

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