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Hitokiri
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"Isaiah Rashad - The Sun's Tirade "


  

          

01. where u at
02. 4r Da Squaw
03. Free Lunch
04. Rope rosegold (feat. SiR)
05. Wat’s Wrong (feat. Zacari & Kendrick Lamar)
06. Park
07. Bday (feat. Deacon Blues & Kari Faux)
08. Silkk da Shocka (feat. Syd)
09. Tity and Dolla (feat. Hugh Augustine & Jay Rock)
10. Stuck in the Mud (feat. SZA)
11. A lot
12. AA
13. Dressed Like Rappers
14. Don’t Matter
15. Brenda
16. by george (outro)
17. Find a Topic (homies begged)


About to dive in.
I'm a really big fan of "Nelly" so I'm a bit disappointed that it didn't make the final tracklisting, but it did come out like a year ago now. I'm hoping it's indicative of the sound of the album. "Smile" was cool too and also didn't make it. I like "Free Lunch," but wasn't too high on "Park" (only listened to it once), but a lot of Cilvia Demo took a little bit to grow on me. I think Zay is talented, so I'm hoping this is a project that really showcases that to continue this hot streak TDE is on.

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Top needs to get this man a No Limit feature.
Sep 01st 2016
1
best TDE album since To Pimp A Butterfly
Sep 02nd 2016
2
this isn't touching blank face...
Sep 02nd 2016
3
      Definitely not touching Blank Face.
Sep 02nd 2016
8
      facts.
Sep 04th 2016
20
      iunno man
Sep 05th 2016
22
RE: Isaiah Rashad - The Sun's Tirade
Sep 02nd 2016
4
dope album
Sep 02nd 2016
5
The production is super tight
Sep 02nd 2016
6
It's cool. Could've been stronger.
Sep 02nd 2016
7
I listened again...
Sep 02nd 2016
9
      he shoulda put out the instrumentals then...
Sep 02nd 2016
10
after a couple of listens
Sep 02nd 2016
11
Dope, love the mellow vibes and stuff
Sep 02nd 2016
12
vibes off the charts
Sep 03rd 2016
16
16/17. Favorite: AA
Sep 03rd 2016
13
Huh. "Don't Matter' is one of my favorite tracks
Sep 03rd 2016
14
eh...it could've been a loosie on soundcloud.
Sep 03rd 2016
15
RE: yeah
Sep 04th 2016
19
RE: 16/17. Favorite: AA <- my shit too
Sep 07th 2016
26
this bored me to death..dude just ain't doing it for me
Sep 04th 2016
17
I'm the best rapper since 25, been like that for a while now, I'm 29
Sep 04th 2016
18
that verse, jesus cristo
Sep 05th 2016
23
bitch i might shoot at yo' camera -- #TDE
Sep 05th 2016
21
One Listen in...but not attentively. I like his vibe
Sep 06th 2016
24
Good album, but
Sep 06th 2016
25
Production is FLAMES
Sep 13th 2016
27
I can't stop playing tracks 2-6
Sep 13th 2016
28
"it was heaven at the bottom and peace from throwing up"
Sep 14th 2016
29
It's growing on me like Cilvia Demo did
Sep 14th 2016
30
He's so fucking good at hooks/melodies
Sep 15th 2016
31
great. more subdued than Cilvia but easier to listen to front-to-back.
Sep 16th 2016
32
Bday is a fave.
Sep 23rd 2016
33
Homie lost me on the 2nd half of this album
Sep 23rd 2016
34
still listening
Apr 26th 2020
35
he tweeted that the new album is done.
Feb 08th 2021
36
i hope he tries to rap this time
Feb 08th 2021
37
I kind of get what you're saying
Feb 08th 2021
40
      i identified with a lot of what he was saying on sun's tirade
Feb 09th 2021
41
I don't see a tweet but he shot a video a couple weeks ago
Feb 08th 2021
38
      he usually has cryptic replies to fans
Feb 08th 2021
39
           Ahhh okay thanks.
Feb 10th 2021
44
Oh snap Im so out the loop I thought this was a 2021 release.
Feb 10th 2021
42
Most TDE artists are getting the wax treatment these days
Feb 10th 2021
43
I didn’t care for this. I loved Cilvia Demo tho.
Feb 16th 2021
45

JFrost1117
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1. "Top needs to get this man a No Limit feature."
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You don't name songs Kevin Miller and Silkk for no reason.

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2. "best TDE album since To Pimp A Butterfly"
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just my opinion

  

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3. "this isn't touching blank face..."
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not by a mile to me.

and i loved cilvia and the loosies

this just too mellow / somber for me.
its obvious he was on xanax and booze something heavy

Q got hip hop album of the year to me

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8. "Definitely not touching Blank Face."
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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

"There is only one god and his name is death. And there is only one thing we say to death: not today."

  

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20. "facts."
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22. "iunno man"
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i definitely got the same vibe - if dude hadn't been xanaxed up the past couple of years, the album wouldn't have sounded as smoothed out.

saying that, this is WAY more consistent than blank face. the highs aren't quite as high on the son's tirade, but there aren't any wack joints like on q's album.

i do prefer this, but you know what they say... different strokes and all that

  

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4. "RE: Isaiah Rashad - The Sun's Tirade "
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Guess I gotta get the digital. Doubt this gets a physical release.

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5. "dope album"
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easily my second favorite tde member

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6. "The production is super tight"
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I really like the vibe on this album but man he's SOOOO mellow that you can easily miss what he's saying. I like this more right away than Cilvia Demo. And it wasn't that I disliked that project but it didn't hold my attention. My biggest problem with Joe is that he doesn't hold my attention because he's so mellow. Not in a J. Cole way either. That said the production is strong enough to give this repeat listens. Really like the cover art too.

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Hitokiri
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7. "It's cool. Could've been stronger."
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I think it needs some resequencing as things really get bogged down in the middle. Cutting a few tracks could also help that. Like 13Rose said, he's so laid back that you can miss what he's talking about. The strongest stretch is definitely 4r Da Squaw through Wat's Wrong or maybe Park. Kendrick comes through and kills it on Wat's Wrong (which was also just begging for an Anderson. Paak feature).
I think the album would have definitely benefited from "Smile" and "Nelly." I'd definitely cut A Lot. Don't Matter is an odd track that doesn't fit the vibe at all... but maybe with resequencing.
Maybe it'll grow on me, Cilvia had to grow on me some. As of now it's a 3/5 for me.

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

"There is only one god and his name is death. And there is only one thing we say to death: not today."

  

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9. "I listened again..."
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I think it's better as a passive listen. I just listened to it with a homie while we were smoking and talking and the album works better like that than with an attentive listen to me.

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

"There is only one god and his name is death. And there is only one thing we say to death: not today."

  

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10. "he shoulda put out the instrumentals then..."
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this dude in interviews talking about he raps better than everybody.

not on this album.

Cilvia Demo destroys this.

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11. "after a couple of listens"
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production is dope af. dude is a really good songwriter too for sure. will need to dissect the lyrics a bit more, but i really dig this

  

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12. "Dope, love the mellow vibes and stuff"
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Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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16. "vibes off the charts"
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http://i54.tinypic.com/2j51hj4.jpg

  

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13. "16/17. Favorite: AA"
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Skip: Don't Matter

  

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14. "Huh. "Don't Matter' is one of my favorite tracks"
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Production stands out from the other tracks, as the sounds remind me of Namco/Square type games from the late 90s/early 00s.

  

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15. "eh...it could've been a loosie on soundcloud."
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19. "RE: yeah"
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i don't really mess with that joint.

  

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26. "RE: 16/17. Favorite: AA <- my shit too"
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Bday my other joint.

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17. "this bored me to death..dude just ain't doing it for me"
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18. "I'm the best rapper since 25, been like that for a while now, I'm 29"
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Any nigga that disagree is a fuckin lie

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23. "that verse, jesus cristo"
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he in my top 5, yup, i said it

  

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21. "bitch i might shoot at yo' camera -- #TDE"
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Mon Sep-05-16 02:11 PM by 2.tears.in.a.bucket

  

          

love this nigga, man. #TDE - he a old soul - acquired taste

all this shit slappin

i think this how kendrick would sound if he came up off three-six mafia

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cops ain't neither /
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24. "One Listen in...but not attentively. I like his vibe"
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Not hittin' me in my sweet spot like Cylvia, but another listen (maybe on the ride home), and I could form a better opinion.

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25. "Good album, but"
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upon multiple listens I've noticed that Cilvia was a bit more "lyrical" than this, which kind of hurts the replay value for me, but I still enjoy it

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27. "Production is FLAMES"
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n/m

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28. "I can't stop playing tracks 2-6"
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29. ""it was heaven at the bottom and peace from throwing up""
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just perfect. eloquent and poetic. sums up an entire mentality in one fucking line. i can't get over how great a line this is

  

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30. "It's growing on me like Cilvia Demo did"
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It's too long but this guy can write really write and chooses the right beats.

  

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31. "He's so fucking good at hooks/melodies"
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It keeps me coming back because his shit just keeps getting stuck in my head. Between Cilvia Demo, the loosies and then this, he's building quite a solid catalog already. Hopefully it doesn't take him 4 more years until his next shit.

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32. "great. more subdued than Cilvia but easier to listen to front-to-back."
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his Outkast and Badu idolatry is showing here in a good way.

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33. "Bday is a fave."
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Does it have the same sample as "Lefleur, Leflah, Eshkoskha"?

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34. "Homie lost me on the 2nd half of this album"
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1st half was flames

2nd half was ZZZZZZZZZZ

sounded like what I would expect lean to feel like

good album for an intro to an artist

probably could have cut it down to 12 tracks to make it great

alot of the tracks toward the end were monotonous IMO

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35. "still listening"
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a classic.

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36. "he tweeted that the new album is done."
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just waiting on sample clearances.

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37. "i hope he tries to rap this time"
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i liked a lot of songs on /the sun's tirade/ but his rapping felt too loose and freestyle-ish. the lyricism was there but a bit unrefined and his delivery and structure were sloppy. a lot of half-singing too as i recall. however on /cilvia demo/ he said, "as the verbal appears it's reflecting my perspective," so maybe more writing isn't the way to go. perhaps there is a healthy balance he can achieve

  

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40. "I kind of get what you're saying"
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and I know folks tuned out the melancholy of Sun's Tirade, but it's the amazing flipside to the urgency of Cilvia Demo (and he was spitting on plenty of tracks; Park is maybe my favorite Zay verse)

the looser flow and structure reflect him coming out of heavy addiction at the time -- Dressed Like Rappers is perfect at the tempo it's at

love Cilvia Demo like my other child, but Sun's Tirade is just...greatness

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41. "i identified with a lot of what he was saying on sun's tirade"
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and i enjoyed the themes and overall "feel" of the album: melancholy, anxious, hazy. i believe there was also some very rare LA transplant regret in there too but that might have come from a quote in an interview he did around the time. there was just too much inebriated sing-songy delivery (which i believe was authentic bc he was really going through it when he was recording) and half-baked verses on sun's tirade to be fully enjoyable for me. he's a fantastic lyricist, he has a keen ear for instrumentals, and he's good at matching them with his vocals. i hope this next album is amazing and more focused and legible, for lack of a better term

  

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38. "I don't see a tweet but he shot a video a couple weeks ago"
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TDE so annoying right now. No Kendrick album. No Sza album. No Zay album. Ab-Soul? Lol. Just Reason, always Reason.

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39. "he usually has cryptic replies to fans"
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Mon Feb-08-21 10:31 PM by will_5198

          

but this was a couple days ago:

https://twitter.com/isaiahrashad/status/1357721771525328896?s=20

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Hitokiri
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44. "Ahhh okay thanks."
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42. "Oh snap Im so out the loop I thought this was a 2021 release."
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Wed Feb-10-21 04:35 AM by normal35762

  

          

I saw the "2016" on Amazon and had to come.back and see the dates on the post.

That Cylvia demo didn't hit me like that so I stopped checking for him. Maybe I had unrealistic expectations or maybe I didn't give it another chance. I really wanted to like him and for him to be an inspiration for "underground" hip hop from smaller southern towns. I remember a cool group from Anniston from back in the early to mid 2000's that he kinda reminded me of.

I'll listen to it when I leave work or on the way to work.

On another note TDE still only giving Kendrick albums a physical release? If so that is wack. All them artists have enough fans to justify pre orders of cds and or wax.

  

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43. "Most TDE artists are getting the wax treatment these days"
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Kendrick (gkmc - on)
Q - (Oxymoron - on)
Sza (Ctrl)
Sir (Chasing Summer)
Jay Rock (Redemption)


Nothing for Zay, Ab-Soul, Reason, or Zacari yet, though

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45. "I didn’t care for this. I loved Cilvia Demo tho."
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Maybe I need to check it again.

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