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"Are there any albums you LOVE start to finish?"
Sun Jul-31-16 07:30 PM by Anonymous

  

          

I'm talking every song is a damn 10 to you.

For example, most of us list Illmatic as at least a top 3 hip-hop album yet most of us would say a song like One Time 4 Your Mind is weaker than the rest.

I think in most cases, regardless if the album is a classic or one of our all-time favorites, there are still cuts that we could do without.

I love ATLiens, but if In Due Time would've taken the spot from ET, then I would say the album would be even better.

So the question is, is there a perfect album to you? An album where every joint is an absolute favorite cut?

Peace

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
I can't think of one off hand.
Jul 31st 2016
1
Dirty Sprite 2
Jul 31st 2016
2
Pete Rock and CL Smooth - The Main Ingredient
Jul 31st 2016
3
RE: Are there any albums you LOVE start to finish?
Jul 31st 2016
4
If Roaches & Rats and In Due Time made the cut...man
Aug 01st 2016
59
ATLiens
Jul 31st 2016
5
Google Play got rid of star ratings, you can not thumbs up or thumbs dow...
Aug 01st 2016
6
Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks
Aug 01st 2016
7
Blonde On Blonde is right there for me
Aug 01st 2016
60
      yes to both of these...another side is like a track and a half away
Aug 01st 2016
62
      RE: Blonde On Blonde is right there for me
Aug 02nd 2016
83
Amy Winehouse - Back to Black
Aug 01st 2016
8
RE: Amy Winehouse - Back to Black
Aug 01st 2016
18
i think i prefer frank but love both
Aug 03rd 2016
124
Yes
Aug 03rd 2016
137
YES
Aug 04th 2016
146
Michael Jackson - Thriller
Aug 01st 2016
9
Baby Be Mine is straight Hot Pocket grease
Aug 01st 2016
11
It's one of my favorite of his songs ...
Aug 01st 2016
19
Boy, is your objective opinion wrong!
Aug 01st 2016
41
...
Aug 01st 2016
47
Never understood the hate for this song
Aug 01st 2016
51
      I think it's due to no single or video. If it was like "Rock With You"
Aug 02nd 2016
73
RE: Michael Jackson - Thriller
Aug 01st 2016
16
Cree Summer - Street Faerie
Aug 01st 2016
10
Finga lickin' the papes like their is no otha..
Aug 01st 2016
12
Resurrection and Doggystyle
Aug 01st 2016
13
^^^
Aug 01st 2016
48
Doggystyle huh?
Aug 01st 2016
61
      Haha I hear ya.
Aug 02nd 2016
79
           Definitely is an all-time classic
Aug 02nd 2016
103
Endtroducing probably comes closest
Aug 01st 2016
14
Blank Face LP
Aug 01st 2016
15
Reflection Eternal...
Aug 01st 2016
17
^ there you go. That's another one for my list.
Aug 01st 2016
20
That album definitely got better with time
Aug 01st 2016
23
Hm I never thought of it that way because ...
Aug 01st 2016
27
Man when that dropped there was nothing else worth listening to
Aug 01st 2016
28
I am all but certain you're just being hyperbolic but ...
Aug 01st 2016
30
      Nah I meant that literally.... in a figurative sense. lol.
Aug 01st 2016
42
           Haha word. That actually makes perfect sense.
Aug 01st 2016
54
           RE: You're. . . you're *still* posting about this?!
Aug 02nd 2016
101
                Once again, you tree trimming troll: context is key.
Aug 03rd 2016
115
                     RE: NO YOU.
Aug 03rd 2016
120
                          No, you country cousin fucker.
Aug 03rd 2016
123
yep
Aug 03rd 2016
130
RE: Too many to start listing.
Aug 01st 2016
21
36 Chambers
Aug 01st 2016
22
cosign OK Computer
Aug 01st 2016
55
so far, only two LPs achieve this feat
Aug 01st 2016
24
Koop - Waltz for Koop
Aug 01st 2016
25
Cube Death Certificate and WC Aint a Damn Thang Changed
Aug 01st 2016
26
A few I can think of right now:
Aug 01st 2016
29
DYWM, TFA
Aug 01st 2016
31
Madvillainy, Train of Thought, Aquemini
Aug 01st 2016
32
steely dan - aja
Aug 01st 2016
33
phonte - charity starts at home
Aug 01st 2016
34
d'angelo - voodoo
Aug 01st 2016
35
RE: d'angelo - voodoo
Aug 01st 2016
43
      I love Meth & Red but that should've been a Kast feature
Aug 01st 2016
44
           Tip was on it but his verse got cut
Aug 02nd 2016
74
michael jackson - thriller
Aug 01st 2016
36
michael jackson - dangerous
Aug 01st 2016
37
marvin gaye - what's going on
Aug 01st 2016
38
Yeah, that's another one of mine too
Aug 01st 2016
46
india.arie - voyage to india
Aug 01st 2016
39
2pac - don killuminati - 7 day theory
Aug 01st 2016
40
Prince - 1999 and Purple Rain
Aug 01st 2016
45
You need to do more exploring throughout the history of recorded music
Aug 01st 2016
49
Thanks but you clearly don't get the post
Aug 01st 2016
52
not that hard to get, homie
Aug 01st 2016
56
      so Payback's A Grandmother = Nag Champa?
Aug 01st 2016
57
           "Your opinion is wrong"
Aug 02nd 2016
64
                Take is easy guy...
Aug 02nd 2016
67
                     LOL you're basically mad about gimmick infringement
Aug 02nd 2016
76
                     Why are you saying anything...
Aug 02nd 2016
77
                          Meanwhile my inbox says different.
Aug 02nd 2016
80
                               You think I give a fuck about your inbox
Aug 02nd 2016
81
                                    The words ofnother people written to me says a lot about me? Do tell.
Aug 02nd 2016
84
                                         I honestly don't feel like going back and forth with you
Aug 02nd 2016
86
                                              But…. you said nobody cares what I have to say.
Aug 02nd 2016
88
                                                   You both need to fuck and get it over with...
Aug 02nd 2016
96
                                                        What's funny is he was 100% correct about your response
Aug 02nd 2016
98
                     I get that...
Aug 02nd 2016
97
Shut your dumb ass up and go sit in a corner
Aug 02nd 2016
75
mamas gun comes to mind immd nm
Aug 01st 2016
50
RE: mamas gun comes to mind immd nm
Aug 01st 2016
58
I think I want to add Liquid Swords to the list
Aug 01st 2016
53
adding that one to my list as well...good one
Aug 02nd 2016
82
I think Liquid Swords has that distinction
Aug 03rd 2016
113
Our bullshit aside, that's a great pick for the topic.
Aug 03rd 2016
119
That's a good pick
Aug 03rd 2016
125
I cosign this
Aug 03rd 2016
126
Stevie Wonder - Innervisions
Aug 01st 2016
63
Came here to say this
Aug 02nd 2016
66
Prince and the Revolution "Parade"
Aug 02nd 2016
65
Stevie Wonder - Fulfillingness' First Finale
Aug 02nd 2016
68
Stevie Wonder - For Once In My Life
Aug 02nd 2016
69
Prince - For You
Aug 02nd 2016
70
Prince - Batman
Aug 02nd 2016
71
Prince - The Truth
Aug 02nd 2016
72
Hmmm
Aug 02nd 2016
78
illmatic, midnight marauders, aquemeni, black messiah
Aug 02nd 2016
85
Wow...even Mamacita huh
Aug 02nd 2016
87
      Best song in their entire catalog. It's fucking incredible.
Aug 02nd 2016
89
      RE: But you're not the troll.
Aug 02nd 2016
94
           Well hello, officer
Aug 02nd 2016
95
                RE: Your posting is worse than mistermaxxx08.
Aug 02nd 2016
100
                     No, you creepy ass hipster hall monitor. No.
Aug 02nd 2016
105
                          RE: Let's assess that post, shall we?
Aug 03rd 2016
116
                               You stand with your hands on your hips a lot, don't you?
Aug 03rd 2016
122
                                    RE: You're a convoluted, hypocritical mess.
Aug 03rd 2016
131
                                         No, see, I own my participation/
Aug 03rd 2016
132
                                              RE: Yeah, because when you're the worst poster on the forum. . .
Aug 03rd 2016
134
                                                   LMAO says the guy who STILL doesn't contribute to the subject. +
Aug 03rd 2016
135
                                                        RE: And more hypocrisy.
Aug 03rd 2016
138
                                                             It's not an accusation, it's an inarguable fact, dummy.
Aug 03rd 2016
139
                                                                  RE: You're a pretentious, self-obsessed, auto-fellating pseudo-intellect...
Aug 03rd 2016
140
                                                                       ...says a self appointed, unsanctioned guy in a security uniform
Aug 04th 2016
149
      papadonna!
Aug 02nd 2016
90
      Nah it's cool...I know some people like that joint
Aug 02nd 2016
91
      only thing wack about mamacita is the hook
Aug 02nd 2016
99
           I can agree with that...
Aug 02nd 2016
102
                RE: "Got Stouffer's lasagna. That's how much I want you."
Aug 03rd 2016
118
                     Lol...
Aug 03rd 2016
121
Mac Dre- Thizzelle Washington. Scraper music. Shit slaps
Aug 02nd 2016
92
the 1st 2 de la albums... the 2nd & 3rd Tribe LPs... Runaway Slave...
Aug 02nd 2016
93
I'll actually listen to ATLiens from start to finish.
Aug 02nd 2016
104
Atliens has aged beautifully man.
Aug 02nd 2016
106
Oh geez I don't see it that way at all. But
Aug 03rd 2016
110
      That's possible. I'll have another listen and get back to you
Aug 03rd 2016
117
           I'm gonna do the same thing tomorrow.
Aug 03rd 2016
127
           (Continuing on the above response)...
Aug 03rd 2016
128
                Man I was a literal backpacker. I lived out of my backpack.
Aug 03rd 2016
133
                     Totally and completely with you.
Aug 03rd 2016
143
I'm differentiating from 'playing all the way through" and...
Aug 03rd 2016
107
ATLiens comes close.
Aug 03rd 2016
111
      RE: ATLiens comes close.
Aug 04th 2016
147
           which songs?
Aug 04th 2016
148
Georgia Anne Muldrow - Olesi: Fragments of an Earth
Aug 03rd 2016
108
Tori Amos - From The Choirgirl Hotel
Aug 03rd 2016
109
Thriller, Off The Wall, Parade, Prince, Dirty Mind, Purple Rain
Aug 03rd 2016
112
ahahahaha you're an ass for that Anita pun man.
Aug 03rd 2016
114
Mecca and the Soul Brother, Fantastic Vol 2, Midnight marauders
Aug 03rd 2016
129
I'd like to add Wilco's Yankee Hotel Foxtrot to the list
Aug 03rd 2016
136
Too many to name.......
Aug 03rd 2016
141
Fuck it...it's new but I'll add The Impossible Kid to the list
Aug 03rd 2016
142
Tetsuo & Youth
Aug 03rd 2016
144
a BIG YES
Aug 04th 2016
150
Radiohead's In Rainbows
Aug 04th 2016
145
Bobby Brown - Don't Be Cruel
Aug 04th 2016
151

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1. "I can't think of one off hand."
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Maybe a random film score or something that I liked that didn't have any bad cues, but I can't think of an album released by a practicing musician that didn't have one track I didn't like.

<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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2. "Dirty Sprite 2"
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Brilliant album every track is a 10

  

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3. "Pete Rock and CL Smooth - The Main Ingredient"
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There's nothing on there that I skip or consider weaker than the others. Just a great album all the way through, including the interludes at the end of the tracks.

  

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4. "RE: Are there any albums you LOVE start to finish?"
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>I'm talking every song is a damn 10 to you.
>
>For example, most of us list Illmatic as at least a top 3
>hip-hop album yet most of us would say a song like One Time 4
>Your Mind is weaker than the rest.
>
>I think in most cases, regardless if the album is a classic or
>one of our all-time favorites, there are still cuts that we
>could do without.
>
>I love ATLiens, but if In Due Time would've taken the spot
>from ET, then I would say the album would be even better.
>
>So the question is, is there a perfect album to you? An album
>where every joint is an absolute favorite cut?
>
>Peace

I clicked on this to reply with Atliens. ET too. It's just dope verse on top of dope verse. And it's such a good push play listen. I listened to it again last week. It's crazy to think now that the album was met with apprehension from some cuz it wasn't 100% spcm2. I still think it's crazy that roaches and rats didn't make it even if I can't think of what to take off on its behalf.

  

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59. "If Roaches & Rats and In Due Time made the cut...man"
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That album would be my clear cut number 1.

And while I like Ova Da Wudz (classic Dre verse) and ET...those are the two I would've cut for the other two if I had to make a tough choice.

I just think they're better and would've lifted the album even higher.

  

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5. "ATLiens"
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Mezzanine

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Falcons, Braves, Bulldogs and Hawks

OutKast, Gang Starr, UGK, Mobb Deep and Eightball & MJG

  

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6. "Google Play got rid of star ratings, you can not thumbs up or thumbs dow..."
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I'll thumbs up songs I would ordinarily give 4 or 5 stars to. The only album I've given a thumbs up to every song is The Low End Theory. The next closest is Illmatic (all but one thumbs up, One Time For Your Mind). Below The Heavens and Revolver each have all thumbs up except once thumbs WAY down (Juicen Dranks and Yellow Submarine, respectively).

  

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7. "Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks"
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My favorite Dylan album and every song is fucking great, no skips, it's a perfect album to me.

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60. "Blonde On Blonde is right there for me"
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I do skip Rainy Day though...novelty song to me.

LOVE everything else.

  

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62. "yes to both of these...another side is like a track and a half away"
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83. "RE: Blonde On Blonde is right there for me"
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I take Highway 61 and Freewheelin' over Blonde On Blonde. Bob's catalog is ridiculous.

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8. "Amy Winehouse - Back to Black"
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Below the Heavens is close (as mentioned, Juicen Dranks)

  

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18. "RE: Amy Winehouse - Back to Black"
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yes yes...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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124. "i think i prefer frank but love both"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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137. "Yes"
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146. "YES"
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9. "Michael Jackson - Thriller"
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Yep, even Baby Be Mine and The Girl Is Mine
whole album is 10's to me

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11. "Baby Be Mine is straight Hot Pocket grease"
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That straight out the microwave, no blowing on it, take a bite and melt your tongue off

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19. "It's one of my favorite of his songs ..."
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and I've never, ever understood the hate for it.

I agree that it's not a perfect fit sound-wise compared to most of the rest of the tracks. But christ - what a great song.

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41. "Boy, is your objective opinion wrong!"
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47. "..."
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Mon Aug-01-16 08:06 PM by ToeJam

          

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51. "Never understood the hate for this song"
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I love it.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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73. "I think it's due to no single or video. If it was like "Rock With You""
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where we got to see him groove to it and feel
the music a bit, I think ppl would fool with
it as much the rest.

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16. "RE: Michael Jackson - Thriller"
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yes....

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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10. "Cree Summer - Street Faerie"
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Days like this I miss Sha Mecca

  

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12. "Finga lickin' the papes like their is no otha.."
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Mecca And The Soul Brother! One of the first albums I thought of as my favorite from start to finish along with Great Adventures Of Slick Rick, Step In The Arena & Stunts, Blunts by Diamond D.

Agreed on Thriller. I gotta throw "Eddie Murphy Comedian" album in their too



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13. "Resurrection and Doggystyle"
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Would have to give it more thought but that may be it.

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48. "^^^"
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61. "Doggystyle huh?"
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That's one album that I can't listen to any more.

As ignorant as most hip-hop albums are that I love, there's something extra juvenile about that shit lol.

  

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79. "Haha I hear ya."
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I'm an unabashed west coast rap music fan, with a specific focus on 90s era g-funk/west coast in general. So while in my old age I can certainly acknowledge the juvenile nature of a lot of the lyrics, I take it with a grain of salt and have a nostalgic appreciation for it and mostly recognize it as a sign of the times/subgenre.

That album wowed me based on flow/cadence voice more than anything lyrical, obviously. And production-wise it's top notch in my eyes.

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103. "Definitely is an all-time classic"
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14. "Endtroducing probably comes closest"
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Something like Laughing Stock by Talk Talk, also, where the tone of the album is so consistent you don't want to skip anything.

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15. "Blank Face LP "
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Smooches.

  

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17. "Reflection Eternal..."
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"Train of Thought"

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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20. "^ there you go. That's another one for my list."
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Resurrection
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23. "That album definitely got better with time"
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I always loved it but it seems to get better as time goes by.

There are a few albums like that for me.

  

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27. "Hm I never thought of it that way because ..."
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... it's been a top 10 album in my eyes pretty much since its release but I think I agree. It has aged exceptionally well and I'm always finding news reasons to love it everytime I listen. It's also rare that I listen to one track from it without listening to the entire thing.

Really a timeless, amazing album.


>I always loved it but it seems to get better as time goes
>by.
>
>There are a few albums like that for me.

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28. "Man when that dropped there was nothing else worth listening to"
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Is and was a masterpiece from start to finish.

  

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30. "I am all but certain you're just being hyperbolic but ..."
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.. being that it was released in 2000, there was PLENTY to listen to at that time. Some would say too much. Haha

Nitpicking of your verbiage aside, yes, definitely the best album of that year IMO and was and still is in pretty heavy rotation.


>Man when that dropped there was nothing else worth listening to
>Is and was a masterpiece from start to finish.

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42. "Nah I meant that literally.... in a figurative sense. lol."
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I mean it both ways, odd as that seems on the surface. It's a lot like having a great circle of close friends and then coming up on an gorgeous and engaging new girlfriend. Everyone else can kick rocks for awhile because you're busy getting it in. Why kick it with your boy when you can bang out with this fine specimen before you? Your boys will be there after she's gone.

So I meant it literally in that it *made* everything else essentially dead to me for about a month. Why listen to something else when I have this dope ass RE album that everything else pales against? I'd throw something on and switch to TOT after a few songs. I didn't want to listen to anything else for a good while.

It's obviously figurative in the sense that, yeah, there was some great music available at the time.... it just took awhile to give any of it any real attention because TOT was the dopest thing I'd ever heard at the time.

It's why all the "hyperbole" rants about my passionate jubilance for Blank Face; *EYE* fucking know how the fuck *EYE* feel about something when *EYE* listen to it and *EYE* don't need to measure *MY* fucking reaction against how anyone else feels about it. Feel me?

  

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54. "Haha word. That actually makes perfect sense."
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And put that way, I was probably the same way with TOT.

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101. "RE: You're. . . you're *still* posting about this?!"
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>
>It's why all the "hyperbole" rants about my passionate
>jubilance for Blank Face; *EYE* fucking know how the fuck
>*EYE* feel about something when *EYE* listen to it and *EYE*
>don't need to measure *MY* fucking reaction against how anyone
>else feels about it. Feel me?


"I wasn't sure if I was lost or running away again. . ."

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2016/269401

  

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115. "Once again, you tree trimming troll: context is key."
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See, the way you pruned the statements prior to that one perfectly illustrates your little context allergy.

Oh, and I love how you called me “the” troll earlier, as opposed to “a” troll, or, accurately and specifically, that I was troll(ing) *Anonymous*.

This is particularly amusing since, yet again, I’ve actually contributed thoughts to the thread that are on topic even as I trolled the troll…. While your presence in here, once again, is solely to troll me as you offer zero input on the subject at hand.

I don’t see you interacting with anyone but me and that interaction is exclusively antagonistic, which makes you the only guy in the room who qualifies as “the” troll.

Have a nice day my new hip hugging hippie. I’m sure I’ll see you again, as usual offering nothing to the subject at hand while trolling me exclusively.

  

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120. "RE: NO YOU."
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"I wasn't sure if I was lost or running away again. . ."

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2016/269401

  

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123. "No, you country cousin fucker. "
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But hey, keep adding more useless entries to a serious thread by the guy you've sworn to protect while adding absolutely nothing to the subject matter.

Great sign of maturity, weirdo.

  

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130. "yep"
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"yes, sometimes my rhymes are sexist, but you lovely bitches and hos should know i'm tryin to correct it"- hiphopopotamus

  

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21. "RE: Too many to start listing."
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"I wasn't sure if I was lost or running away again. . ."

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2016/269401

  

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22. "36 Chambers"
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Illmatic

OK Computer

  

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55. "cosign OK Computer"
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Days like this I miss Sha Mecca

  

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24. "so far, only two LPs achieve this feat"
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The first being Edan's Beauty & The Beat.

The second, Toro Y Moi's Underneath The Pine.

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25. "Koop - Waltz for Koop"
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and its only 36 minutes.

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26. "Cube Death Certificate and WC Aint a Damn Thang Changed"
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29. "A few I can think of right now:"
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Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions
Edan - Beauty and the Beat
Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
Company Flow - Funcrusher Plus

I'll likely add more later...

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Checkin' Our Style, Return To Zero:

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31. "DYWM, TFA"
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more that i just cant think of now.

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32. "Madvillainy, Train of Thought, Aquemini"
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and Who is Jill Scott? are the only albums I can really play and literally not skip a song for any reason at all.

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33. "steely dan - aja"
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Rjcc is code for "bitch-ass troll"

DROkayplayer™

  

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34. "phonte - charity starts at home"
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Rjcc is code for "bitch-ass troll"

DROkayplayer™

  

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35. "d'angelo - voodoo"
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Rjcc is code for "bitch-ass troll"

DROkayplayer™

  

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43. "RE: d'angelo - voodoo"
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Another close one for me, but I've never been able to fully get behind Left & Right

  

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44. "I love Meth & Red but that should've been a Kast feature"
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If not Kast then Thought and Tip

  

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74. "Tip was on it but his verse got cut"
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But they left his background vocals on it as percussion. But honestly I think the solo D version was better suited for the album.

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36. "michael jackson - thriller"
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37. "michael jackson - dangerous"
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38. "marvin gaye - what's going on"
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46. "Yeah, that's another one of mine too"
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39. "india.arie - voyage to india"
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40. "2pac - don killuminati - 7 day theory"
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Rjcc is code for "bitch-ass troll"

DROkayplayer™

  

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45. "Prince - 1999 and Purple Rain"
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Also, I'll add Illmatic. I don't agree with the common thought that One Time For Your Mind isn't on the same level as the rest of the album.

  

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49. "You need to do more exploring throughout the history of recorded music"
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So many perfect artistic statement.

Here's a couple:
Paul Simon: Rhythm of the Saints
Jimi Hendrix Experience: Are You Experienced
Radiohead: OkComputer & In Rainbow
Common: LWFC

  

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52. "Thanks but you clearly don't get the post"
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56. "not that hard to get, homie"
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a classic album with all classic cuts/songs you love/are tens. You can really only think of a couple? Very okayplayer of you...

  

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57. "so Payback's A Grandmother = Nag Champa?"
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ok buddy...

  

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64. ""Your opinion is wrong""
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Dumb thing to argue. Yes, I think that's a fucking incredible song that can stand on its own. Go listen right now on its own and tell me that's not dope. Then I'll tell you you're wrong like it means anything.

And especially in the arc of the album. Looking at albums like a collection of single songs is a false narrative for the ipod generation.

  

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67. "Take is easy guy..."
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>Dumb thing to argue. Yes, I think that's a fucking incredible
>song that can stand on its own. Go listen right now on its own
>and tell me that's not dope. Then I'll tell you you're wrong
>like it means anything.
>
>And especially in the arc of the album. Looking at albums like
>a collection of single songs is a false narrative for the ipod
>generation.

I'm not looking at albums as a collection of single songs. I NEVER listen to single songs. I'm a huge believer in albums and having all songs play their part. But for the album in question, LWFC, to me, there are some low points that keep it from being perfect and most people feel this way.

Look, you came in the post like a jackass on some "listen to more music" so I responded accordingly.

The point of this post is extreme nitpicking of even classic albums.

Your opinion isn't wrong, but I just don't believe you are looking at the topic the same way the rest of the posters are.

To each his own...

But don't tell me that I need to "explore more music" because that comment is essentially saying the same thing you're bitching about, "you're opinion is wrong".

  

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76. "LOL you're basically mad about gimmick infringement"
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>Look, you came in the post like a jackass on some "listen to
>more music"

lol. That's YOU. That's what you do.

>To each his own...

lol you don't subscribe to this. stop.

  

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77. "Why are you saying anything..."
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No one cares about shit you have to say bro.

  

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80. "Meanwhile my inbox says different. "
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Specifically in regard to what I've had to say to and about you, sunshine.

By multiple people.

Anyhow it's amusing to watch you get a heaping helping of your own stupid gimmick

smooches.

  

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81. "You think I give a fuck about your inbox"
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That's cool people send you inboxes...

Funny they didn't say shit in the post.

Tells you a lot about the type of people who you're claiming as your champions.

Also tells me a lot about you.

I can only imagine what a fucking worthless piece of shit you must be in real life.

  

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84. "The words ofnother people written to me says a lot about me? Do tell."
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>Also tells me a lot about you.

Please explain how- and what- an unsolicited message sent to my by someone we says anything about me. I'd love to hear your thought process behind that hilarious non sequitur.

>I can only imagine what a fucking worthless piece of shit you
>must be in real life.

Bwuahahahhahah so saith the career message troll in the midst of a tantrum because someone served him a slice of his own antagonistic gimmick.

Hate to say it but....YOU MAD RIGHT NOW!!

Tell me more about your feelings, princess.

  

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86. "I honestly don't feel like going back and forth with you"
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If you feel people inboxing you on okayplayer is something to hang your hat on...then, yes that does in fact tell me a lot about your sorry ass life.

  

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88. "But…. you said nobody cares what I have to say. "
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>If you feel people inboxing you on okayplayer is something to
>hang your hat on.

Who the fuck said I'm "hanging my hat" on it?

You said nobody cares what I had to say, which was amusing coming from you since I've got actual evidence to the contrary, particularly where your pathetic gimmick is concerned.

I don't "hang my hat on it". I mentioned it because it's absolutely relevant to your statement...... because it completely invalidates your statement.

See how that works?

>then, yes that does in fact tell me a lot
>about your sorry ass life.

hahahahahahah again... I really hate saying but since it's actually pretty accurate.... YOU MAD AS FUCK!!!

And we both know you'll be back for more back and forth fun. You'll be lazy boring about it, but you'll participate. you'll post vapid, lame little one liners in the header for like 12 more rounds until I get bored with you.....

....all because I had a laugh at your expense because someone gave you a fat slab of your own fuckery. Your anger is an unexpected bonus and for that, I thank you.

Until next time, Peaches

  

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96. "You both need to fuck and get it over with..."
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98. "What's funny is he was 100% correct about your response"
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Because you clearly didn't read the fucking post.

It just so happens that he does that shit too and it was hilarious to watch him react to an encounter with his apparent doppelganger.

  

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97. "I get that..."
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and that's what okayplayer is to some people, so be it. I've been on here since like 99 and still got a relatively low post count, cuz I don't like the back and forth.

You could name any album like "Illmatic" and say you think one song is weaker. Then a whole slew of people will chime in and say that's it's one of their all time favorite songs. It would seem the artist had a better vision than you did because they understood appealing in different ways across a complete statement made their art more whole. While you want to eat more of your favorite mac & cheese cuz it's so delicious, but that m&c wouldn't be as good if you hadn't had those green beans to balance it out.

Invalidating someone's opinion is as intellectual as arguing their taste buds are wrong.

Art shouldn't be perfect. There's no risk. And no such thing.


Sorry to come off angry before, just trying to make my point. Peace.

  

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75. "Shut your dumb ass up and go sit in a corner"
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__________________________________________
CHOP-THESE-BITCHES!!!!
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Un-OK'd moderator for The Lesson and Make The Music (yes, I do's work up in here, and in your asscrease if you run foul of this

  

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50. "mamas gun comes to mind immd nm"
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58. "RE: mamas gun comes to mind immd nm"
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This is a good example of an album that I listen to from top to bottom, but don't love every song. In Love with You is a song I tolerate, but up to that point it's damn near perfect.

  

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53. "I think I want to add Liquid Swords to the list"
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82. "adding that one to my list as well...good one"
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113. "I think Liquid Swords has that distinction"
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I want to say OB4CL also but I don't think every song is a 10.

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119. "Our bullshit aside, that's a great pick for the topic. "
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I think the inclusion of B.I.B.L.E was a brilliant left turn.

I think the track length helped immensely here. Swordsman is the only track that I don’t really love, but it’s not like I’m skipping it.

It’s just a dip in momentum but picks up right after on I Gotcha Back and closes out on an exceptionally high note with the completely unexpected B.I.B.L.E.

  

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125. "That's a good pick"
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-----------------

www.albumism.com

Checkin' Our Style, Return To Zero:

https://www.mixcloud.com/returntozero/

  

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126. "I cosign this"
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Days like this I miss Sha Mecca

  

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63. "Stevie Wonder - Innervisions"
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66. "Came here to say this"
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65. "Prince and the Revolution "Parade""
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Any time of the day.
Any day of the week.
Any week of the month.
Any month of the year.
THAT'S.
MY.
SHXT.

lol

... Charter member, but I don't post much. LAZERS.

  

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68. "Stevie Wonder - Fulfillingness' First Finale"
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69. "Stevie Wonder - For Once In My Life"
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Days like this I miss Sha Mecca

  

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70. "Prince - For You"
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71. "Prince - Batman"
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72. "Prince - The Truth"
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78. "Hmmm"
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Stevie Wonder - Innervisions
Slowdive - Souvlaki
Gal Costa - Gal Costa
Gal Costa & Caetano Veloso - Domingo
Nas - Illmatic
Bill Evans Trio - Sunday at the Village Vanguard
Almendra - Almendra
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On
Françoise Hardy - La question
Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady
Pescado Rabioso - Artaud

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85. "illmatic, midnight marauders, aquemeni, black messiah"
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a bunch of stuff from the 70s

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

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87. "Wow...even Mamacita huh"
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Interesting

  

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Cold Truth
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89. "Best song in their entire catalog. It's fucking incredible. "
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I hear Schoolboy Q produced it.

It’s fucking immaculate and we should all thank sweet white baby Jesus above that it exists.

I think I’ll conceive my next child to it.

  

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94. "RE: But you're not the troll."
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Nope. Not at all.


"I wasn't sure if I was lost or running away again. . ."

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2016/269401

  

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Cold Truth
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95. "Well hello, officer"
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I'm trolling a troll.

You're trying to police the trolling of a troll.

Which is fucking stupid.

  

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100. "RE: Your posting is worse than mistermaxxx08."
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"I wasn't sure if I was lost or running away again. . ."

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2016/269401

  

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Cold Truth
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105. "No, you creepy ass hipster hall monitor. No."
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But, please do continue to shadow me every time I pick on Anonymous. I imagine it makes for a nice break from wood carving or hat knitting or whatever your scraggly cornball ass does when you're not my latest five o clock shadow.

  

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116. "RE: Let's assess that post, shall we?"
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>But, please do continue to shadow me every time I pick on
>Anonymous.

So, you admit that your attempt here is to "pick on" another forum member. Going by your comments on some of the albums mentioned in this topic, I will assume that you and I are within a very similar age range. Which is to say: much too old to be targeting and "picking on" random strangers you encounter on the internet. Then again, you're also the first one to start throwing around unfounded insults, so such immaturity is right in line with your typical behavior, so I guess it should come as no surprise that you would admit to, and indeed, seem to be proud of the fact that you engage in such routines.


>I imagine it makes for a nice break from wood
>carving or hat knitting or whatever your scraggly cornball ass
>does when you're not my latest five o clock shadow.

Hypothetically speaking, if I was into woodworking and knitting, that would hardly be an insult. Because, at least I would be doing something worthwhile and productive with my hands, while you're just sitting there struggling to occupy your hands with more lame attempts at insults.


"I wasn't sure if I was lost or running away again. . ."

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2016/269401

  

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Cold Truth
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122. "You stand with your hands on your hips a lot, don't you?"
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>So, you admit that your attempt here is to "pick on" another
>forum member. Going by your comments on some of the albums
>mentioned in this topic, I will assume that you and I are
>within a very similar age range. Which is to say: much too
>old to be targeting and "picking on" random strangers you
>encounter on the internet.

Yes, I picked on a trolling ass troll who trolled me first- and not for the first time- and now I'm having a little fun at his trolling ass expense.

Since you think *we* are much to old to be targeting and picking on random strangers on the internet, perhaps you should, you know, be an actual mature guy and, you know, be that example.

But you're not: you're trolling me. So if you're going to police honor amongst thieves perhaps you shouldn't be in the muck yourself.

>one to start throwing aroun unfounded insults, so such
>immaturity is right in line with your typical behaviorso I
>guess it should come as no surprise that you would admit to,
>and indeed, seem to be proud of the fact that you engage in
>such routines.

Not sure where the "pride" thing comes in but whatever. I’m making immature wisecracks toward you, a strange, self appointed hall monitor caping for a troll who is getting trolled right back.

If you were anything approaching the mature, above-it-all guy you pretend to be, YOU WOULDN’T BE FOLLOWING ME AROUND TRYING TO POLICE ME…. Particularly when the guy I’m needling is a notorious troll.

It’s not like you’re defending some amiable guy who I jumped out of the clear blue, which makes your newfound infatuation curious to say the least.

The sort of person you feign to be wouldn’t pay any attention to any of this and that’s the best part of all of this:

I accept and own my participation in the muck and mire while you’re fucking delusional about your participation and hide behind the façade of your demeanor to convince yourself that you’re not doing the exact same shit. You stooped to the ridiculous level of critiquing obvious typos, as though that’s not a definitively tell-tale sign of a troll job.

Oh, and let’s address my insults: All of my insults are ABSURD. They’re playful. They’re hardly serious and obviously ridiculous. I have no foundation for any of it because I don’t know anything about you! None of it is intimately personal. It’s not like I have real information about you and I’m trying to hit you where it hurts.

It’s because I don’t take you seriously. You’re funny. You’re amusing. You’ve taken this buttoned down, folgers crystals drinking “I don’t say such immature things” persona of “maturity” and it’s fucking hilarious because you genuinely don’t see that you’re doing the same shit with a less objectionable tact on the surface.

> at least I
>would be doing something worthwhile and productive with my
>hands, while you're just sitting there struggling to occupy
>your hands with more lame attempts at insults.

Productive and worthwhile like... shadowing me the way you are? Gotcha. So productive and worthwhile use of your time. At it's core it's really no more or less than I'm doing to that trolling ass troll. It's the same shit and you're too smug to see it.

  

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131. "RE: You're a convoluted, hypocritical mess."
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"I wasn't sure if I was lost or running away again. . ."

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2016/269401

  

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132. "No, see, I own my participation/ "
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I own my words and freely admit to what I've said and why.

You, on the other hand, are the one following me to chastise me for actions I'm not denying while you pretend you're not contributing to further destruction of the thread. I trolled Anonymous and have since backed off and have engaged with other posters regarding the subject matter while you've done nothing but continue the derailment of the thread over some issue you have with me... and just like in the other thread, that interaction was initiated by... YOU, you smelly mountain man.

Which makes you the convoluted, hypocritical mess, who STILL has not contributed a single word on the topic of either of the threads in which you've chosen to shadow me.

I've contributed healthy discussion in here and am in fact currently in the midst of an ongoing, reasonable and thoughtful discussion with Brew based on differing perspectives on Train Of Thought. He’s stated several times that he disagrees with my take on it and- GASP!- wonder of hipster hillbilly wonders, we’re still getting along just fine. I wonder what’s so different there?

You’ve contributed nothing of the sort and have engaged in no dialogue aside from your policing/passive aggressive antagonism of me… which means your sole purpose in here, much like your purpose in the Blank Face post, is 100% focused on me and thus definitively NOT the discussion of music. You would rather push up the numbers with your pointless back and forth with me instead of- or, at a minimum, in addition to- engaging on the OP subject matter.

Yes, the convoluted hypocritical mess in here would be you, the guy who hasn’t attempted to engage in anything other than the antagonism of a random stranger on the internet. At least I’ve contributed to a nice discussion in here relative to the subject of the OP. Can you say the same?

  

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134. "RE: Yeah, because when you're the worst poster on the forum. . ."
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. . .I guess you'd have to go around congratulating yourself and pointing out the one semi-normal interaction you've had, to justify your numerous other obsessive meltdowns.



"I wasn't sure if I was lost or running away again. . ."

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2016/269401

  

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Cold Truth
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135. "LMAO says the guy who STILL doesn't contribute to the subject. +"
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Calling me the worst poster is rich coming from a guy who has literally done nothing but argue with me in two posts where *I* actually contributed thoughts on the subject of the OP.

So as far as that bullshit about "one normal interaction", well... that's one more than I've seen from you over the course of the two posts where *you* initiated argumentative, antagonistic and contextually distorted exchanges with me.

Your SOLE PURPOSE AND CONTRIBUTION in here is to argue with me.

Your SOLE PURPOSE AND CONTRIBUTION to that Blank Face thread was to argue with me.

So please, tell me more about "normal interactions" and being the "worst poster" as you contribute nothing but the continued derailment of the post with entirely off topic arguments with me.

Anonymous was the guy I trolled and even he isn't pressed to argue with me like you are.

  

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138. "RE: And more hypocrisy."
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You've accused me numerous times of "policing" the forum, as if that's a bad thing, then you turn around and reprimand me for being off topic — doing the exact thing you've accused me of doing.

In summary: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130618000157/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/d/d5/Zoidberg_This_Post_Is_Bad.jpg



"I wasn't sure if I was lost or running away again. . ."

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2016/269401

  

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139. "It's not an accusation, it's an inarguable fact, dummy. "
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>You've accused me numerous times of "policing" the forum, as
>if that's a bad thing

It is a bad thing, actually. You're doing nothing but arguing and derailing posts. It's not actionable. You're just telling me what you think but there's no action and no resolution to be had. You're just spinning wheels.

In fact, if I were doing anything actionable and you were genuinely concerned about it.... you would inbox a mod and plead for action. But you don't, choosing instead to "let me know that my rude behavior did not go unnoticed".

You're an approximation of an 80 year old volunteer citizen patrol bitching at kids on skateboards in the mall parking lot but doesn't call the cops because he knows the cops are going to laugh at you and tell you they've got more important shit to deal with.

>then you turn around and reprimand me
>for being off topic — doing the exact thing you've accused
>me of doing.

-hypocrisy:

"the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense."

Again: I readily acknowledge my end of that. I do not deny it nor do I divert from it. In fact I'm the opposite of a hypocrite. I freely admit to stooping to the level of trolls like anonymous and engaging with him on that level, same is I readily admit to stooping to your level of vapid antagonism and engaging with you on those grounds.

YOU, on the other hand are the one feigning higher moral ground.

You've consistently deflected every factual and contextually accurate assertion of your useless endeavor.

You're easily the most glaring hypocrite in the building.

  

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140. "RE: You're a pretentious, self-obsessed, auto-fellating pseudo-intellect..."
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You wouldn't know true, earnest music discussion in even its most basic form — and, even then, you'd be too argumentative to understand what was happening anyway.

Have the last word, since it's all you're about anyway.


"I wasn't sure if I was lost or running away again. . ."

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2016/269401

  

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149. "...says a self appointed, unsanctioned guy in a security uniform"
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Nothing screams "pretentious" and "auto-fellating" like a guy who appoints himself the neighborhood security guard to police activity that even real security guards wouldn't look twice at. And, again, you won't even call the real "cops" because you know exactly what kind of response you'll get.

Also, you’ve once again shifted the discussion to something else.

Time and again I’ve addressed your posts based on the words in each post.

Each time you respond by completely ignoring that subject and shifting to another topic entirely.

You called me a hypocrite and I ran that through a shredder. No response. Instead you’re suddenly concerned about musical discussion after, what, 30 exchanges over the last two posts?

You know, like you did with this last one. Lol.

The bit about having the last word is also rich considering you’ll keep arguing long after you’ve achieved your stated goal.

I do like the bit about being a pseudo-intellectual though. It’s ridiculous but I did find it inspiring. I think I’ll develop a British accent, as I imagine it will make talking down to people much more enjoyable.

  

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90. "papadonna!"
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lol...

that one is weaker than the rest. plz forgive me

i'll switch it out for jungle brothers - straight out the jungle (OG vinyl... no girl i'll house you)

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91. "Nah it's cool...I know some people like that joint "
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Not the popular opinion but some really like it.

I do think the Nathaniel skit plays a big role on the album. I love that shit.

  

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99. "only thing wack about mamacita is the hook"
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that beat is off the chain

BUT the hook is very very basura

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102. "I can agree with that..."
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I do like the beat.

And even though I don't particularly like the girl or Witchdoctor's verses, they are memorable.

  

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118. "RE: "Got Stouffer's lasagna. That's how much I want you.""
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Wow, he went to the frozen food aisle and spent less than ten dollars. He must really be a catch.

Song sucks.


"I wasn't sure if I was lost or running away again. . ."

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121. "Lol..."
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Exactly...not good but memorable

Sometimes I find joy in absurd dumb shit that makes me think "he really just said that?"

  

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92. "Mac Dre- Thizzelle Washington. Scraper music. Shit slaps"
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93. "the 1st 2 de la albums... the 2nd & 3rd Tribe LPs... Runaway Slave..."
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...One for All ....Goin Off ....Liquid Swords

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104. "I'll actually listen to ATLiens from start to finish."
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I can't think of a time of skipping a joint or two on that album. It was the album I was thinking of when I saw the title of this post. Funny that it was one of your examples. Midnight Marauders is another one. Yes, I'll even play "8 Million Stories." I know it's considered the weakest cut on the album but it's only weak against strong competition on the album itself. The song itself is not wack by any means and if it wasn't a part of such a strong, classic album, I doubt many would have called it weak. I will play MM all the way through. Oh yeah, I used to play Black on Both Sides all the way through as well. I haven't listened to the full album in years but based off of memory, I'm sure I'd still listen to it all the way through...including "Rock and Roll."



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106. "Atliens has aged beautifully man. "
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It's such a thoughtful album without ever approaching pretentiousness, which is one minor issue I have had with train of thought as I've grown older. It never crosses the line but it encroaches here and there. Still a masterpiece to me. Atliens doesn't really have that sort of blemish IMO.

  

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110. "Oh geez I don't see it that way at all. But"
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>It's such a thoughtful album without ever approaching
>pretentiousness, which is one minor issue I have had with
>train of thought as I've grown older. It never crosses the
>line but it encroaches here and there. Still a masterpiece to
>me. Atliens doesn't really have that sort of blemish IMO.

... I'm thinking perhaps the way Kweli comes off and acts in the latter part of his career may be tinting how you're looking back @ TOT ?

I mean, you did say "it never crosses the line" but I don't even really think that album comes close to sounding pretentious. That's actually one of the things I love about it. It touches on some super mature subject-matter without ever coming over preachy or self-important. That one album, even if neither artist involved ever achieved this again, came so naturally to both Kweli and HiTek.

I suppose I can see why you'd feel that way specifically BECAUSE of the subject matter, but in my opinion none of it comes off forced or fake or anything like that.

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117. "That's possible. I'll have another listen and get back to you "
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Like I said I don’t really feel like he’s all the way there, but there are spots where it’s a little melodramatic and entering the outer rim of being a little pretentious. There are a lot of generic battle raps toward “wack mc’s” that can only really come from a feeling of superiority.

“Too Late” feels a little self important, talking about how empty all these other rappers are, a sentiment I once championed but have since come to view as just as empty and useless as the bling bling nonsense. It’s fine because that’s a basic aspect of being an MC. One area where I’ve felt I’ve matured as a listener is that I no longer need rap to make a statement to enjoy it because there are just so many perfectly valid ways to approach hip hop sonically and topically and there are many perfectly empty and pointless songs that are absolutely great .

Too Late is one of my favorite joints on the album due to the beat but as I grew up the lyrics became less and less relatable. He’s kind of up his own ass on that one. Again, I still enjoy the song but don’t find it particularly profound. It’s ultimately every bit as empty as things it’s whining about, and yes, for me it eventually started to come across more as whining to me than a song that makes any real statement. Why complain about the problem when you’re in perfect position to actually be the solution and lead by example?
I used to agree fervently, like YEAH! FUCK ALL THESE WACK MC’S! FUCK ALL THE EMPTY RHETORIC! Now I’m like… shouldn’t you be focused on creating substantive material to offset the weak shit other guys are putting out instead of complaining about the weak shit? It just seems awfully counterproductive to me and ultimately undoes some of the good achieved in the albums more thoughtful moments.

And yes, TOT absolutely has some wonderfully thoughtful moments, like Memories Live. I’ll play it through today and see if I still get that impression, because you may well be right and I’m applying my general impression of Kweli to the album.

  

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127. "I'm gonna do the same thing tomorrow."
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>Like I said I don’t really feel like he’s all the way
>there, but there are spots where it’s a little melodramatic
>and entering the outer rim of being a little pretentious.
>There are a lot of generic battle raps toward “wack
>mc’s” that can only really come from a feeling of
>superiority.

Yea see I guess I just don't categorize that type of stuff the same way. I think it's important to think of the context of that era too. A lot of MC's cut from the same cloth as Kweli were talking that same type of "wack MC" stuff at the time. Just a symptom of the era, though I suppose that fact wouldn't necessarily negate it from coming off pretentious in some listeners eyes, especially years later.


>“Too Late” feels a little self important, talking about
>how empty all these other rappers are, a sentiment I once
>championed but have since come to view as just as empty and
>useless as the bling bling nonsense. It’s fine because
>that’s a basic aspect of being an MC. One area where I’ve
>felt I’ve matured as a listener is that I no longer need rap
>to make a statement to enjoy it because there are just so many
>perfectly valid ways to approach hip hop sonically and
>topically and there are many perfectly empty and pointless
>songs that are absolutely great .
>
>Too Late is one of my favorite joints on the album due to the
>beat but as I grew up the lyrics became less and less
>relatable. He’s kind of up his own ass on that one. Again, I
>still enjoy the song but don’t find it particularly
>profound. It’s ultimately every bit as empty as things
>it’s whining about, and yes, for me it eventually started to
>come across more as whining to me than a song that makes any
>real statement. Why complain about the problem when you’re
>in perfect position to actually be the solution and lead by
>example?

Yea word, I mean I guess I see what you're saying but that's just one song out of twenty. So in my opinion, he *did* lead by example. Nothing wrong with dedicating one track to what you feel the problems are in the current landscape of rap. So long as a whole album isn't dedicated to it. The rest of the album dealt with subject matters of family, the difficulty of relationships, love, the struggles of women, the struggles of the black community, the political landscape, etc. So, in my eyes at least, he *was* leading by example.

Now if you want to say he sounded pretentious in DISCUSSING those topics, then we just have a fundamental disagreement regarding what pretentiousness sounds like. Haha.


>I used to agree fervently, like YEAH! FUCK ALL THESE WACK
>MC’S! FUCK ALL THE EMPTY RHETORIC! Now I’m like…
>shouldn’t you be focused on creating substantive material to
>offset the weak shit other guys are putting out instead of
>complaining about the weak shit? It just seems awfully
>counterproductive to me and ultimately undoes some of the good
>achieved in the albums more thoughtful moments.
>
>And yes, TOT absolutely has some wonderfully thoughtful
>moments, like Memories Live. I’ll play it through today and
>see if I still get that impression, because you may well be
>right and I’m applying my general impression of Kweli to the
>album.

Word yea. I'm interested to see what you think. When do you think the last time you heard it was previous to this ?

I really do think that (a) the "superiority" complex thing was just a symptom of the underground vs mainstream thing that was going on at the time, at probably a higher percentage than ever in hip-hop. In other words there's always been competition in hip-hop, the culture was basically built on it. But the late 90s/early 00s saw a major divide between mainstream and underground that I don't think we saw before or since. And (b) I really do think the latter half of Kweli's career has really tainted how people view his entire body of work. I listen to his early stuff now and am wistful about when he was focused, pointed/frank/direct about certain topics, but wasn't in your face or annoying about it like he can be these days. Back then he was almost endearing in his disgust, if that is possible. Haha. But again that's just MY opinion of how it sounds.

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128. "(Continuing on the above response)..."
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To be fair, it can probably be said that MY views of this album are being tainted in the other direction due to my bias for the time period of Train of Thought's release. I hold those albums in high regard and albums like ToT, Like Water ..., Black on Both Sides, etc., are still among my favorites of all time. So it can probably be said that my views are tainted just due to the fact that I am admittedly highly nostalgic for that time period. So I'm, probably subconsciously for the most part, more willing to overlook potential flaws just due to the fact that even hearing one note from a lot of these songs/albums can bring me right back to the excitement I felt when I first popped these CDs into my discman/stereo.

Sorry so long and rambling, I am trying to work while quickly typing out responses so excuse any typos/non-sensical run-on sentences.

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133. "Man I was a literal backpacker. I lived out of my backpack. "
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I had every Rawkus album there was as well as all the Slum Village, Common, Roots, Dilated albums and all that. Everything was Beat Junkies and Lyricist Lounge and Wake Up Show and Co Flow and Lootpack and all that shit.

I was all rah-rah backpacker, b-boy for life, four elements, KRS One is god, motherfuck radio, all that. I was a full blown card carrying backpacker and still revere those albums in a big way. I see them as on par with the output of any era.

I say all this to say: I understand completely. I championed those messages and sounds. While I completely understand the temperature of the era and the driving factors behind such a concerted effort to counter-balance the shifting landscape, I can now look back objectively with greater personal and musical maturity. I appreciate them for the snapshots they were for what they were and what they represented in that timeframe but I also see some of the shortcomings and view those albums with a more critical eye than I was willing to cast at the time.

To that end, my critique isn’t rooted in trying to knock TOT or anything else from the time down a peg, but simply in listening with an entirely new perspective on pretty much everything those albums spoke about. I think it’s important to keep the circumstances that lead to the creation of those albums in mind, but I also think I’d be a seriously stunted individual if the way I related to things at 35 didn’t change from the way I related to them in my late teens and early twenties.

I’ll tackle your other response in a bit. I’m enjoying this discussion lol.

  

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143. "Totally and completely with you."
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And I don't think you took it this way but just in case, I definitely didn't mean to insinuate that you were trying to knock ToT or any of the other music that clearly had a massive impact on both of us (and likely most of us on this board; it's the music that brought us all here obviously). Was just explaining the (probably biased) reasons I don't find that music to sound as pretentious as you do, even now with hindsight and perspective and maturity. I'm probably just still listening with a heavy dose of nostalgia for the formative years that shaped me musically, rather than a more strictly objective/critical ear that I'd judge it by if it were released today and *didn't* have that wistfulness attached to it.

So yea - we are on the same page for sure.

Interested to hear what you have to say when you give it another listen. I'm also enjoying the discussion immensely. ToT is an album I could discuss at length forever.

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107. "I'm differentiating from 'playing all the way through" and..."
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"Every song is a ten" though.

Every album you posted I play all the way through.

But if I'm honest with myself, there are aspects, like ET, that could've been better in my opinion.

  

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111. "ATLiens comes close."
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The first half of the album is as flawless as an album gets.

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147. "RE: ATLiens comes close."
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Agreed. There are songs on the second half that are really hard to "LOVE"

  

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148. "which songs?"
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Babylon
Wailin
Mainstream
Decateur Psalm
Melillenium
ET
Growing Old

ET has always been the only slacker on the entire album to me and that's due to the hook. I like the verses and stripped production.

  

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108. "Georgia Anne Muldrow - Olesi: Fragments of an Earth"
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109. "Tori Amos - From The Choirgirl Hotel"
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112. "Thriller, Off The Wall, Parade, Prince, Dirty Mind, Purple Rain"
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Innervisions and Fulfillingness' First Finale by Stevie

Rapture by Anita Baker misses the cut by ONE misstep (pun intended). Rapture is the better album, but Giving You the Best That I Got and Compositions would make my list.

Faith Evans - Faithfully

probably more than I can't recall at the moment.

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114. "ahahahaha you're an ass for that Anita pun man."
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LOL That was a cool song but yeah, it aint a 10.

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129. "Mecca and the Soul Brother, Fantastic Vol 2, Midnight marauders"
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... Voodoo, Mama's Gun, Off The Wall, Best Of Both Worlds (Davina), lalah Hathaway live,

..off the top of my head .....

...Innervisions and Music Of My Mind are close, as is LWFC and RTD

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136. "I'd like to add Wilco's Yankee Hotel Foxtrot to the list"
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141. "Too many to name......."
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Statues - Moloko
Endtroducing.... - DJ Shadow
Bad Brains - Bad Brains
3 + 3 - Isley Brothers
Illmatic - Nas
Make Yourself - Incubus
A Love Supreme - Coltrane
Return of the Space Cowboy - Jamiroquai
Breath From Another - Esthero
Straight From the Heart - Patrice Rushen
When the Pawn.... - Fiona Apple
Nina Simone Sings the Blues - Nina Simone
Superunknown - Soundgarden


So many more......

  

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142. "Fuck it...it's new but I'll add The Impossible Kid to the list"
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I love every joint on there.

  

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144. "Tetsuo & Youth"
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I love everything about that record.

  

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150. "a BIG YES"
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that thing is so underrated

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145. "Radiohead's In Rainbows"
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151. "Bobby Brown - Don't Be Cruel "
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