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TRENDone
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"What's the time signature for the Bryson Tiller - "Exchange" beat?"


  

          

the most exotic rhythm in mainstream R&B since Tweet - "Oops, Oh My"

Bryson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj9coPGuFkM

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4/4
Jul 18th 2016
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Lol
Jul 18th 2016
2
What's exotic about this beat?
Jul 19th 2016
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I was thrown off by the offbeat snare
Jul 20th 2016
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      It's not off-beat tho lol... just on odd number counts. Rick Ross BMF
Jul 20th 2016
10
           thanks for the snarky lesson but
Jul 21st 2016
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                Wasn't snarking you at all.
Jul 21st 2016
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                     I'm just being a lil sensitive...
Jul 25th 2016
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                          RE: I'm just being a lil sensitive...
Jul 29th 2016
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re Tweet - "Oops, Oh My"
Jul 20th 2016
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I think this might be 2/2 (cut time).
Jul 20th 2016
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It's straight from Drake school of speeding up a sample and then
Jul 20th 2016
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Drake definitely the father to that style
Jul 20th 2016
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The beat is 4/4
Jul 20th 2016
9

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1. "4/4"
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n/m

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2. "Lol"
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Boogie Stimuli
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3. "What's exotic about this beat?"
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8. "I was thrown off by the offbeat snare "
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Wed Jul-20-16 05:02 PM by TRENDone

  

          

As far as I'm concerned every beat on the radio sounds like DJ mustard or drunk in love. I'd love to hear someone try to do it live w/ a female singer, drums, and a moog or bass. Best R&B song in a minute but dude can't sing for shit smh.

Drake was doing these kinda beats like Rtistic said below

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10. "It's not off-beat tho lol... just on odd number counts. Rick Ross BMF"
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has the same snare hits as do hella
songs on the radio in the last few years.

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11. "thanks for the snarky lesson but"
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Thu Jul-21-16 09:30 PM by TRENDone

  

          

BMF and Exchange are not the same drum pattern. BMF is closer to my other example, Drunk in Love. please give me other examples of songs within the last 5 years with a rhythm/drum pattern close to bryson tiller's exchange...and i'm not just talking about a sped up 90s sample.

check out this cover where this doowop group does a medley of don't and exchange...notice they don't sing the verse of exchange? they had to switch it up...cuz it's different...even the way kevin gates raps on "2 phones" i can't articluate it, but it's exotic to me. i know it's been around, but it's mainstream now. Drake and Beiber using dancehall rhythms on their latest POP ALBUMS is a trip to me as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjSpUQAk7O8

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12. "Wasn't snarking you at all."
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>BMF and Exchange are not the same drum pattern.


I said the snares hit on the same count in both beats.
That's what you said was throwing you off.
Exchange is just slower.


>check out this cover where this doowop group does a medley of
>don't and exchange...notice they don't sing the verse of
>exchange? they had to switch it up...cuz it's
>different...
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjSpUQAk7O8


I could tell you why that is, but you'll just
think I'm being snarky again, so nevermind.
Glad you're enjoying the music and finding it
fascinating.




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13. "I'm just being a lil sensitive..."
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but do you have any examples of beats in the last 5-7 years similar to the "exchange" beat?

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14. "RE: I'm just being a lil sensitive..."
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Fri Jul-29-16 02:26 AM by bearfield

  

          

>but do you have any examples of beats in the last 5-7 years
>similar to the "exchange" beat?

pusha t - "intro": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCQ5wkzORQs

a little faster than "exchange" but around the same tempo

nas and/or dj khaled - "esco album done": http://www.audiomack.com/song/hiphop-lives-here/esco-album-done

i think this tempo (~80-95 bpm) with "trap" drum patterns (meaning one snare per measure hitting on the 3) is a fairly recent development and could be a gateway for older artists to get on more modern-sounding beats since the tempo is closer to what they used to rap over. they don't really have to change up their flow much, save for accounting for the "increased" space due to there being only one snare per measure instead of two. hopefully this leads to more experimentation with patterns by said older artists

not sure about the time signature. most likely 4/4 and littered with 8th and 16th notes that sound "slow" because of the tempo and snare pattern. maybe 8/8 where the snare hits on the 5? but that seems overly complex

  

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4. "re Tweet - "Oops, Oh My""
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belongs in that circle of Timbaland's drum and bass influenced production

Ugly
Get Your Freak On
etc

4/4 also

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5. "I think this might be 2/2 (cut time)."
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His melody is very active with alot of notes, but there's still the strong beat on the 1 followed by three other beats. The slow tempo kind of throws that off.

The bass drum is syncopated and kicking on off beats, with an asymmetrical pattern, which is why you might have thought the meter was unconventional.

  

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6. "It's straight from Drake school of speeding up a sample and then"
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cutting the beat in half, or even into a fourth.

"Shorty swing my way" is 140 BPM. "Exchange" is 40 BPM. Dude sped up "Shorty swing my way" up to 160 BPM, and drop drums that were basicaly 1/4th of that to make it 40 BPM.

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7. "Drake definitely the father to that style "
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Those snycopated trap beats.

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9. "The beat is 4/4"
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The tempo and when the drums hit have nothing to do with the time signature.

This beat simply only has a snare hit on either the 4 or the 8 depending on what tempo the track was created at.

  

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