And some also owe O.E. an apology. He was repping for Joey for years. And I vibe with O.E. on most music, so I kept trying just off his recommendation.

I liked Joey, but felt he was too much of a throwback and hadn't found his own voice yet. Which was understood cuz he was just a kid.

But now that this dude has found his groove. He is easily one of the best M.C.'s in the world. One of the nastiest, though provoking, and creative. And he's 21.

Every time I see he do a guest verse, freestyle, anything he's on point.

And now he's dipping his toes into acting with "Mr. Robot"? Man, I wish nothing but the best for this dude.

And as dude who's set in his ways about hip hop, I love when it's done right by this next generation and they push it forward.

Salutes Joey!

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

He didn't coon, and got what 99.9999% of commercial
rappers want.

He didn't coon AT. ALL.

Dude has organic and authentic charisma. He's just a
cool little niglet.

And he can rap.

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

Stayed independent.

Makes creative intelligent music for his generation.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

the flip side is selling yourself as the resurrection of Buckshot Shorty

Tyler, the Irrelevant?!?!

Joey more popular, has more bitches, has more pub

And didn't need to coon for white fans

Bwahahahahhhahahahahahha

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

I didnt like his last album btw

but yeah he's super irrelevant (3 million Twitter followers) compared to Joey Badass (627,000 followers)

so yeah keep bringing up something I liked in 2010 that Joey Badass will never be greater than, good job champ

>but yeah he's super irrelevant (3 million Twitter followers)
>compared to Joey Badass (627,000 followers)

BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Tyler is a clown show and social media troll, who got
demolished by Rah Digga!!

Joey putting together a sustainable CAREER:

http://www.vogue.com/13429021/joey-bada-interview-pro-era-malia-obama-calvin-klein-hip-hop-coachella/


>so yeah keep bringing up something I liked in 2010 that Joey
>Badass will never be greater than, good job champ

Joey is already better, more relevant

You sad


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

what a time to be alive

glad dude has a lane and seems like he gunna endure past rap

.

both in first week sales, and overall sales. and its only going to get worse for Tyler.

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next you're going to say Capital Steez Day is bigger than Tyler's carnival too

Im not even invested in the narrative, but dude makes music to sell a whole lifestyle and is pretty much self-owned. he just had a fashion show in June with Kanye in attendance

so yay Joey Badass sold 54,000 his first week and Cherry Bomb sold 51,000

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

kids that want to dress like him, kids who want be him

he isnt just selling Tyler The Creator's music anymore, he's also selling Tyler The Creator's lifestyle

>kids that want to dress like him, kids who want be him

http://i.imgur.com/7SriVPD.png

>he isnt just selling Tyler The Creator's music anymore, he's
>also selling Tyler The Creator's lifestyle

http://i.imgur.com/7SriVPD.png

>>kids that want to dress like him, kids who want be him
>
>http://i.imgur.com/7SriVPD.png
>
>>he isnt just selling Tyler The Creator's music anymore, he's
>>also selling Tyler The Creator's lifestyle
>
>http://i.imgur.com/7SriVPD.png

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

>next you're going to say Capital Steez Day is bigger than
>Tyler's carnival too

What a weirdo

>Im not even invested in the narrative, but dude makes music to
>sell a whole lifestyle and is pretty much self-owned. he just
>had a fashion show in June with Kanye in attendance

LOL. Good grief.

>so yay Joey Badass sold 54,000 his first week and Cherry Bomb
>sold 51,000

Tyler ain't out here calling Black Lives Matter a "bandwagon" and Bill Cosby "innocent".

if we're talking about cooning.

Tyler making songs that hurts "conventional Black" people's asses like a razor-tipped loofah isn't on the same level as THAT shit.

I'm mad disappointed in this dude, he should have kept it to the "No Comment" like Tyler The Provocateur, who didn't take the easy bait

Tyler took the "I'll be the weird black kid that
white suburban kids love" route. And it got him very
far. But it's not transcendent. It has a peak, and he's
reached it. You can't alienate members of your own
culture by trying too hard to be "the different negro."

The Rah Digga thing was an example: no strong black man
tries to bully Rah Digga. And when he got destroyed, he
had nothing to say, like the little bag of hoe cakes
that he is.

SAD THING IS THIS: Tyler can rhyme. Like, he's actually
a good rapper. Hell, he's probably more *gifted* a lyricist
than Joey is. But Tyler has made some terrible decisions.



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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

>Tyler took the "I'll be the weird black kid that
>white suburban kids love" route. And it got him very
>far. But it's not transcendent. It has a peak, and he's
>reached it. You can't alienate members of your own
>culture by trying too hard to be "the different negro."

He didn't "take that route", that's just who he is.

And who is he really alienating?
Dudes of varying age who think moisturizing their skin is an abomination of European origin? Boyce Watkins?

Certainly not other BLACK rappers or respected BLACK peers in the industry.

This dude got Kanye and Lil Wayne to be on the same song as him, rapping. The latter actually sounding like he didn't drink a bottle full of NyQuil mixed with vodka and crushed up pills while doing so.

Dam Funk, Alice Smith, Roy Ayers, Pharrell (his musical idol), Toro y Moi, Leon Ware, Wanya Morris, Erykah Badu, Schoolboy Q, and Charlie Wilson all have made music with this weirdo. On some of his weirdest tracks. Not even for bandwagoning, either.

Even when he was out there making songs about mostly bullshit, the ones who were the most offended weren't the black folks. It was mostly whites. I honestly don't think Tyler registered THAT much with mainstream America.

I don't get what's so different about his rap persona versus dudes who pretend to be drug dealers, but talk about the same kind of shit (more or less). Besides his whole "dressing like a skater" thing. White people ate it up (and Tyler made fun of it repeatedly), but they also ate up The Chronic.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

Jays | Cavs | Eagles | Sabres | Tarheels

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>
>Tyler took the "I'll be the weird black kid that
>white suburban kids love" route. And it got him very
>far. But it's not transcendent. It has a peak, and he's
>reached it. You can't alienate members of your own
>culture by trying too hard to be "the different negro."
>
he hasn't aliented members of his culture tho. the old guard, maybe yes, but the new crop, who don't even define themselves as hip hoppers or about rap, nah.

maybe I'm biased or have a skewed perspective cause I live in LA AND up the street from the lil "epicenter" of that youth wave on Fairfax, but Tyler has as many "weirdo" I'm not Black like most Black, Black kids as he does the whites riding for him, at least out here. Also Tyler from a Black ass neighborhood, it just so happens it's an upper middle class Black one, so I get why he reps Blackness the way he does. You not all the way off the mark though. It's mad annoying that at 25 Tyler still pulling the angsty loud mouthed millenial rebel without a cause schtick.

I'm def not surprised Earl don't fuck with him no more. The way Earl speaks to folk like Ali Shaheed or Ebro, you can tell he left all that Odd Future steez in the past.

>The Rah Digga thing was an example: no strong black man
>tries to bully Rah Digga. And when he got destroyed, he
>had nothing to say, like the little bag of hoe cakes
>that he is.
>
>SAD THING IS THIS: Tyler can rhyme. Like, he's actually
>a good rapper. Hell, he's probably more *gifted* a lyricist
>than Joey is. But Tyler has made some terrible decisions.
>
we def agree here. Bastard and Wolf are great rap records tho. Goblin is basura. Cherry Bomb has moments but trash too

for real?

If Joey said it too it would be disappointing news to me.

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Checkin' Our Style, Return To Zero:

https://www.mixcloud.com/returntozero/

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and he has a bit of a point, but still... "No Comment" is the best comment sometimes

http://www.bet.com/news/music/2015/07/20/joey-badass-defends-bill-cosby.html

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

Jays | Cavs | Eagles | Sabres | Tarheels

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I just really wish he had gone with a different name. I *hate* his name.

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"Fuck aliens." © WarriorPoet415

>And some also owe O.E. an apology. He was repping for Joey
>for years. And I vibe with O.E. on most music, so I kept
>trying just off his recommendation.
>
>I liked Joey, but felt he was too much of a throwback and
>hadn't found his own voice yet. Which was understood cuz he
>was just a kid.
>
>But now that this dude has found his groove. He is easily one
>of the best M.C.'s in the world. One of the nastiest, though
>provoking, and creative. And he's 21.
>
>Every time I see he do a guest verse, freestyle, anything he's
>on point.
>
>And now he's dipping his toes into acting with "Mr. Robot"?
>Man, I wish nothing but the best for this dude.
>
>And as dude who's set in his ways about hip hop, I love when
>it's done right by this next generation and they push it
>forward.
>
>Salutes Joey!

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

And hope that's not the direction he's going in. When Kirk Knight
came out trap from the jump tho was the writing on the wall?

http://i54.tinypic.com/2j51hj4.jpg

>And hope that's not the direction he's going in. When Kirk
>Knight
>came out trap from the jump tho was the writing on the wall?

I don't like that entire sound - and I don't like that one of the few new notable artist not using that sound might be moving over to it.

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Gone: My Discogs collection for The Roots:
http://www.discogs.com/user/tomhayes-roots/collection

1. EVERYBODY'S doing it!!! It made him unique that he wasn't and STILL
had the #2 album in the country INDEPENDENT. Still was winning!
What more could u want? He was in a position very few get to be in.

2. I don't even mind an "expansion" of one's sound as long as it isn't
a DEPARTURE from what u were doing, which I feel Devastated is.

And side note, Cinematic Music Group was set to be the TDE of the
East but they've been going downhill lately man.

But with all that said, we'll see.

>I don't like that one of
>the few new notable artist not using that sound might be
>moving over to it.
>

http://i54.tinypic.com/2j51hj4.jpg

I thought he was dope from the jump and I'm a "old dude" and a "backpacker" but I know a lot of my peers hated.

Anyway, I dig the new track because if anyone actually listened to his debut LP, they knew he was willing to try more shit than Boom-Bap and we're the better for it.

I hope he never tires of experimenting.

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Never got the "He's trying to sound too '90s" criticism. Dope music is dope music.

And it appears he's going on tour with Schoolboy Q this fall. That should definitely be interesting.

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Checkin' Our Style, Return To Zero:

https://www.mixcloud.com/returntozero/

plan on seeing Q this fall - if Joey is on tour with him I'll be hype.
that's 2 artists on same bill I really fuck with.

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Cameo
Soundshape Records

>And it appears he's going on tour with Schoolboy Q this fall.
>That should definitely be interesting.


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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

The guy has been the truth since he came out, he's good for the culture and honestly there's nonreal debate there.

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Not a fan of the music, but dude actually raps so I am pulling for his success. Plus, he is on Mr. Robot and that is one of my favorite shows.

I know trap and stripper music seems to have taken over but I still have faith in this younger generation.

a monster year music wise, probably the first one of its caliber in over 20 years.

and it was up there with Kendrick and Earl (1a and 1b) for me. I even ranked Tyler (hi, O_E) in that year's crop.

Have you heard tribe demo tapes? They garbage. However, if tribe came up in this age folks would have heard them as mixtapes and dismiss them.

Artist don't get to grow like they use to. I use to feel the same way about Charles Hamilton...but it was mental issues that brought him down.


...But in general I am incapable of writing off an artist at 18 years old.





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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

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always liked his first mixtape...everything after that didn't do it for me save his guest spots, but he's on a roll right now

Big time

See:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-7tpWG0Vjg

I'm not the hugest fan, but I can't see any
reason to dislike him. He can rap his ass off.

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Days like this I miss Sha Mecca