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TheRealBillyOcean
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"So Joe Budden dissed Drake"


          

http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/joe-budden-making-a-murderer-drake-diss-new-song.1970417.html

It's aight.

Drake might cook dude though.

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Subject Author Message Date ID
RE: So Joe Budden dissed Drake
Jun 30th 2016
1
What wins in 2016?
Jun 30th 2016
2
After perusing Twitter last night, there is no way Joe can win.
Jul 01st 2016
4
It's a rhyme masterpiece.
Jul 01st 2016
3
RE: It's a rhyme masterpiece.
Jul 03rd 2016
7
Is The Only Attention J. Budden Ever Get Is When He's Dissing...
Jul 01st 2016
5
I've been a fan of Joey longer than Drake...
Jul 02nd 2016
6
its a good diss record
Jul 03rd 2016
8
who cares about Drake and diss tracks, am I the only one excited for
Jul 04th 2016
9
Araab has done good stuff with all of the slaughter crew
Jul 05th 2016
10
Joe Budden-Wake
Jul 06th 2016
11
it makes no sense whatsoever for Drake to respond
Jul 06th 2016
12
Getting cooked by a MC that everyone has heard of is a bad look
Jul 06th 2016
13
      Wait....WHO has heard of Joe Budden?
Jul 07th 2016
15
           If you listen to Hip Hop, chances are high you heard of Joe.
Jul 07th 2016
16
Wake is a pretty serious
Jul 06th 2016
14

beatnik
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Thu Jun-30-16 08:49 PM

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1. "RE: So Joe Budden dissed Drake"
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using that interview against him was clever. Drake stans gonna count plays/dollars, anybody for Budden going off bars.

Budden has stepped on stage and actually battled in the last few years so drake on thin ice with ghostwriters and dodging Mook, probably do what he did with Meek and it'll be over before August unless Joe actually gets mad and keeps it's going.

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phemom
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Thu Jun-30-16 11:17 PM

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2. "What wins in 2016?"
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Better Bars or Public Perception?

I don't believe any of Drake's time & place bars is gonna beat Joe.....I don't believe people are gonna listen to Joe because "he hasn't be revelent since 2003".

Interested to hear what Drake says. He should use the reality stuff in his favor...and I'm sure they'll be some "you broke and can't make a hit bars" too.

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TheRealBillyOcean
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4. "After perusing Twitter last night, there is no way Joe can win."
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Like 0% chance.

There were people saying he was washed up. "I don't know any Joe Budden songs". "He can't rap."

There was a lot of that.

And Drake can rap well enough that he can't get slaughtered.

It's a lose/lose for Joe in terms of popular opinion.

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denny
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Fri Jul-01-16 01:56 AM

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3. "It's a rhyme masterpiece."
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But young people don't care about this nerd-level rap shit. This is like the equivalent of Yngwie Malmsteen on electric guitar. Joe Budden is rap finger-tapping and doing rap pentatonic scales. Drake could respond with half the effort and half the ability it takes to do this kinda thing and he'll win in the public perception based on success instead of skills. That's cool though. That's just how things are right now. Real shit will come back through a la Kurt Cobain takeover that will make 95% of current shit look ridiculous in the grand scheme of things.

  

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jimaveli
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7. "RE: It's a rhyme masterpiece."
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>But young people don't care about this nerd-level rap shit.
>This is like the equivalent of Yngwie Malmsteen on electric
>guitar. Joe Budden is rap finger-tapping and doing rap
>pentatonic scales. Drake could respond with half the effort
>and half the ability it takes to do this kinda thing and he'll
>win in the public perception based on success instead of
>skills. That's cool though. That's just how things are right
>now. Real shit will come back through a la Kurt Cobain
>takeover that will make 95% of current shit look ridiculous in
>the grand scheme of things.

Drake could kill him worse by using the 'half a bar' strategy instead of getting into a whole thing with him like with Meek. Maybe this one ain't personal enough? Who knows...rappers be weird.

When someone tries to make real shit with any kind of visibility attached to it, the 'real heads' tend to ruin it by not rolling with it, pushing it and letting it be what it could be from there. It happened to Cole until he said eff it, stopped cutting his hair and started yodeling. I'm more disappointed that folks argued over Kendrick when he'd clearly jammed up a storm no less than 2 times in a row with Dr. Dre attached to his work. But nooooo...couldn't let him have it. Had to go on and on about how it wasn't smart enough or that it was too weird or that nobody wanted to hear spazz jazz. Lupe came with it via bar barrage...same thing. Heads argued over it. It was obviously too much rappin for young cats who had grown accustomed to adlibs, fewcha-style mumbling, stop and start flows, singing, inefficient rapping/bars stretched out over multiple songs, and smoke and mirrors production that doesn't necessarily 'allow' for heavy rapping.

  

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Dj Joey Joe
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5. "Is The Only Attention J. Budden Ever Get Is When He's Dissing..."
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Fri Jul-01-16 12:00 PM by Dj Joey Joe

  

          

...people who's more famous than he is...which is like 90% of the rappers out right now.

Yeah Joe is a lyricist and likes to make those mean metaphors and whatnot but dude seems angry all the time at nobody and can't make a decent album to save his life.

So what he dissed Drake, I don't like Drake either but c'mon, how about diss Jay-Z or Kanye and make it interesting, going after Drake is like going after an r&b artists who just so happen to rap...aka easy target.


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Kira
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6. "I've been a fan of Joey longer than Drake..."
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Drake has too much material but there's almost nothing to destroy. A loss here does not have an effect upon Joey in any capacity. He built his career off introspective mixtapes so losing now helps him long-term.

  

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DunDaDa
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8. "its a good diss record"
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Joey came correct w/those bars

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amplifya7
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9. "who cares about Drake and diss tracks, am I the only one excited for"
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more Budden & Araab? Looking forward to their collab project, this is good as a teaser

  

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cgonz00cc
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10. "Araab has done good stuff with all of the slaughter crew"
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More would make me happy as well

Araab getting involved in the beef and throwing shots at 40 would also be enjoyable

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phemom
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11. "Joe Budden-Wake"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gTpg09ptnU

Joe won't let it go...

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12. "it makes no sense whatsoever for Drake to respond"
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that being said....these songs GOTTA sting a bit.

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13. "Getting cooked by a MC that everyone has heard of is a bad look"
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DVS
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15. "Wait....WHO has heard of Joe Budden?"
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Thu Jul-07-16 08:07 AM by DVS

  

          

Joe got two audiences....well, three

Oh Shit...that's dude that made PUMP ME UP!!

Oh Shit...that's dude from LOVE AND HIP HOP!!

and wild backpacker dudes that live in their mother's basement.

Let's not pretend that Joe Budden the MC is a household name

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TheRealBillyOcean
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16. "If you listen to Hip Hop, chances are high you heard of Joe."
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You just rattled off 3 or 4 Joe Budden related things bro. Lol.

So you've heard of him.

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14. "Wake is a pretty serious"
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I'm a big Budden fan and was a bit underwhelmed after Making a Murderer or maybe I wasn't catching everything he was throwing.

But Wake everything was more clear and more scathing imo.

and you know he got the skeletal diss record already if Drake ever decided to respond.

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