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TheRealBillyOcean
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"Jazz heads, if I like Kamasi's "The Epic", give me some other suggestion..."


          

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These should do it:
Mar 13th 2016
1
Charles Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady
Mar 13th 2016
2
RE: Charles Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady
Mar 13th 2016
4
      yeah
Mar 15th 2016
8
RE: Jazz heads, if I like Kamasi's "The Epic", give me some other sugges...
Mar 13th 2016
3
McCoy Tyner
Mar 14th 2016
5
Horace Tapscott and The Pan-Afrikan People's Arkestra
Mar 15th 2016
6
Yes, most definitely
Mar 15th 2016
7
modern: Eddie Moore and The Outer Circle
Mar 15th 2016
9
This is a solid album.
Mar 21st 2016
15
thanks for this
Mar 21st 2016
16
Thank you all!
Mar 15th 2016
10
RE: Jazz heads, if I like Kamasi's "The Epic", give me some other sugges...
Mar 16th 2016
11
a lot of great recs here
Mar 16th 2016
12
Makaya McCraven - In The Moment
Mar 21st 2016
13
a made a list of jazz albums the other day
Mar 21st 2016
14
Contemporary: Christian Scott
Mar 22nd 2016
17
RE: Contemporary: Christian Scott
Mar 22nd 2016
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      Stretch Music might be one of my favorite albums of the decade
Mar 24th 2016
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           damn. i didn't even know he released sumthin last year
Mar 24th 2016
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           RE: Stretch Music might be one of my favorite albums of the decade
Mar 25th 2016
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           mine too
Mar 26th 2016
23
One last rec: Sun Ra
Mar 24th 2016
19
Post Jack! Any rec's on ppl similar to Robert Glasper?
Mar 26th 2016
24
Sorry fam, meant to reply to this sooner
Mar 31st 2016
29
      No worries; THANK YOU!
Apr 01st 2016
31
Darryl Reeves - Mercury
Mar 26th 2016
25
While this is a great album
Mar 27th 2016
28
all the suggestions in this thread have been incredible
Mar 26th 2016
26
3 amazing records out of NYC
Mar 27th 2016
27
Terrace Martin just dropped an album today
Apr 01st 2016
30
I copped the CD pre order via bandcamp
Apr 01st 2016
32
      i may go to amoeba tomorrow to see if they got the physical
Apr 01st 2016
33
Marcus Strickland dropped his album today
Apr 15th 2016
34
Damn, this sounds hot....
Apr 16th 2016
36
Miles Mosley dropped his new single today
Apr 15th 2016
35

Kosa12
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1. "These should do it:"
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You need to check out:

Black Saint
Capra Black

both albums by Billy Harper, the first time I heard the epic I immediately thought of Billy Harper

it also wouldn't hurt to get into some Pharaoh Sanders, the best starting point being his classic The Creator Has A Master Plan

and if you are really, extremely new to jazz, John Coltrane is always a great place to start, I wouldn't call these albums "The Epic"-ish, but I'd strongly recommend Blue Train and Giant Steps

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2. "Charles Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady"
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4. "RE: Charles Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady"
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YES! So I'm not the only that thinks Mingus when listening to Kamasi. They both have that edgy, gorgeous mess of a sound from disparate sources and still sounds dope as hell.

  

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8. "yeah"
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can't believe I didn't think of this one instantly, makes perfect sense

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3. "RE: Jazz heads, if I like Kamasi's "The Epic", give me some other sugges..."
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Maybe you'll like Doug Carn from Black Jazz Records: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea6mS9ONvb8

There are also great "Best of" free mixes on the net of the Black Jazz Records label: http://www.choicecuts.com/blackjazz/ (scroll all the way down)

  

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5. "McCoy Tyner"
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Sahara or Trident

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Heavy Ro'
Jay Rock - Redemption
Roc Marci - RR2
Travis Scott - Astroworld
Taz Arnold - rAd americA

  

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6. "Horace Tapscott and The Pan-Afrikan People's Arkestra"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFC3gpBgEnA




Everyone is crying out for peace, yes
None is crying out for justice
Everyone is crying out for peace, yes
None is crying out for justice

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7. "Yes, most definitely"
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9. "modern: Eddie Moore and The Outer Circle"
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15. "This is a solid album."
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https://digife.com

  

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16. "thanks for this"
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this is great sutff

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10. "Thank you all!"
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11. "RE: Jazz heads, if I like Kamasi's "The Epic", give me some other sugges..."
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Pharoah sanders
Alice Coltrane
Idris Muhammad
Kenny garett
Brandee Younger
Theo crocker
Eric Dolphy
Rahsaan Roland kirk



Bumpin in the STEREO:
Gladys Knight&The Pips
KING-We Are King
Babyface-Return Of The Tender Lover
Rick James-Street Songs

  

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12. "a lot of great recs here"
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I would esp. second the Pharoah Sanders and McCoy Tyner suggestions --- on the latter, specifically his more modal and groove-oriented material, from Expansions onward. A lot of Washington's record really sounds like an ode to that fertile period coming out of the very late '60s through the late '70s, shifting out of hard bop and into... whatever you want to call it, lol.

You could probably get a lot out of just following Coltrane's late band members' and collaborators' output from the late '60s onward: Sanders, Tyner, Elvin Jones, Archie Shepp (I definitely hear early '70s Shepp throughout the Epic --- see "Cry of my People" and "Attica Blues"), Freddie Hubbard, and so forth. But again, starting with Sanders and Tyner would be a good bet. I have a soft spot for Tyner's Expansions and Extensions albums, as well as the live "Enlightenment" album.

The list of good records from the period is looooong --- but it's one of my favorite periods of music, period, and well worth spending lots of time with.


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13. "Makaya McCraven - In The Moment"
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Improvisational jazz album that goes really fucking hard.

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Waldorf and Statler Vol 4:CONAN IS OUT NOW!!!: http://waldorfandstatler.bandcamp.com

and don't forget to check "DVS 4 ALDERMAN"

http://windimoto.bandcamp.com/album/dvs-4-alderman-bandcamp-exclusive-expanded-editio

  

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14. "a made a list of jazz albums the other day"
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none of this is specifically based on it being similar to The Epic, but since you like The Epic you could end up liking a good portion of these records:
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/Kosa12/i_love_jazz__classics_and_modern_marvels/

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17. "Contemporary: Christian Scott"
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his Christian Atundeh Adjah Scott album in particular

  

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18. "RE: Contemporary: Christian Scott"
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>his Christian Atundeh Adjah Scott album in particular
Stretch music too

dude

  

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20. "Stretch Music might be one of my favorite albums of the decade"
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21. "damn. i didn't even know he released sumthin last year"
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thanks for the heads up

  

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22. "RE: Stretch Music might be one of my favorite albums of the decade"
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Stretch Music was all over the place imo. Had some beautiful stuff on there but no solid theme.

I think he had way too much input from his bandmates and not enough of his own influence. YYST imo was his magnum opus to date.

The mood of that album puts me in the certain space that's hard for me to leave once I press play. Gorgeous album.

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23. "mine too"
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19. "One last rec: Sun Ra"
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I can't believe I didn't think of this earlier. Lanquidity is my favorite and the first album that comes to mind. His discog is huge, so I won't even try to make more recs, just get your googles on.

  

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24. "Post Jack! Any rec's on ppl similar to Robert Glasper?"
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I LOVE "Canvas", "Mood", and I'm addicted to "Black Radio" 1 and 2

I have Terrace Martin's "3ChordFold" but I'm super excited for his jazz album "Velvet Portraits" coming out on April 1. I did a preorder for the CD and got 3 songs for free download.

Who else out there do you guys recommend?

P.S. "The Epic" is a masterpiece.

  

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29. "Sorry fam, meant to reply to this sooner"
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Well, you can definitely start with the albums that Glasper is a sideman and/or producer for other people's work:

Kenneth Whalum III - To Those Who Believe
Robert Hurst - Unrehurst, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2
Lionel Loueke - Heritage
Darryl Reeves - Diary of a Bandstand
Derrick Hodge - Live Today
Otis Brown III - The Thought of You

There's a Terence Blanchard album or two that he plays on too, but I can't remember them, because I wasn't really feeling them (Bounce or Flow, something like that).

If you like Black Radio, you should def check Stefon Harris and the Blackout - Urbanus and The Detroit Experiment (self-titled).

A lot of people compare Glasper to Herbie, especially from doing cross-genre stuff and the R&B/funk years, but when I hear In My Element (his best work IMO) I hear Ahmad Jamal. I don't like the But Not for Me/Poinciana album which I think people consider his classic, so I'd recommend The Awakening. Once you hear it, you'll lots of good samples that were used for hip-hop too.

#NP: Janelle Monae-DC, Pusha T-Daytona, Royce-Book of Ryan, Blue Note All-Stars-OPOV, Chris Dave/Drumhedz-Glow, Conway-GOAT, Black Milk-Fever, KRIT-4eva Is a Mighty.., Phonte-NNIGN, August Greene, Jericho Jackson
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31. "No worries; THANK YOU!"
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>Well, you can definitely start with the albums that Glasper
>is a sideman and/or producer for other people's work:
>
>Kenneth Whalum III - To Those Who Believe
>Robert Hurst - Unrehurst, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2
>Lionel Loueke - Heritage
>Darryl Reeves - Diary of a Bandstand
>Derrick Hodge - Live Today
>Otis Brown III - The Thought of You
>
>There's a Terence Blanchard album or two that he plays on too,
>but I can't remember them, because I wasn't really feeling
>them (Bounce or Flow, something like that).
>
>If you like Black Radio, you should def check Stefon Harris
>and the Blackout - Urbanus and The Detroit Experiment
>(self-titled).
>
>A lot of people compare Glasper to Herbie, especially from
>doing cross-genre stuff and the R&B/funk years, but when I
>hear In My Element (his best work IMO) I hear Ahmad Jamal. I
>don't like the But Not for Me/Poinciana album which I think
>people consider his classic, so I'd recommend The Awakening.
>Once you hear it, you'll lots of good samples that were used
>for hip-hop too.


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25. "Darryl Reeves - Mercury"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC3NDCIfVHA

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28. "While this is a great album"
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....I don't think it fits in the same vein as Kamasi Washington.

This is more like Herbie's "Head Hunters" album.

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26. "all the suggestions in this thread have been incredible"
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had no idea there was so much dope new jazz around

  

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27. "3 amazing records out of NYC"
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Brandee Younger - Wax and Wane
- harpist inspired by alice coltrane and dorothy ashby, album produced by casey benjamin (robert glasper experiment)

Big Yuki - Greek Fire
- ridiculously talented keys player. album is straight fire the whole way.

Marcus Strickland - Nihil Novi
- album drops on blue note in a couple of weeks - one of the dopest sax players around, album produced by meshell n'degeocello and guests include chris dave, pino, glasper and others


enjoy!

brief shameless self promo - excited to have my own new offering for everyone later this year too

mark

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30. "Terrace Martin just dropped an album today "
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called Velvet Portraits

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32. "I copped the CD pre order via bandcamp"
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I got the digital DL last night (ALAC) , and my CD came in today

After the first listen from this morning, I felt it was pretty dope

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33. "i may go to amoeba tomorrow to see if they got the physical "
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34. "Marcus Strickland dropped his album today"
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on blue note produced by meshell ndegeocello and with chris dave, pino, glasper et al..

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/nihil-novi/id1088093870

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36. "Damn, this sounds hot...."
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But damn, there's like 3 threads on contemporary jazz that I wish we could just combine together. Here's the 2016 jazz post tho.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2956745&mesg_id=2956745&listing_type=search

I'm super tempted to start some type of Jazz Lessonhead group of something on Facebook or somewhere, so we can discuss shit like this more on the regular.

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35. "Miles Mosley dropped his new single today"
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https://worldgalaxyrecords.bandcamp.com/album/abraham-single?lf=1e99514f1c93a652fea3cadb74b03a04

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