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TheRealBillyOcean
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"Lesson: Put me onto some Classical Music"
Tue Jan-12-16 06:33 PM by TheRealBillyOcean

          

I'm starting at square zero.

But I love Mozart in the Jungle and was thinking, "Why don't I listen to this type of stuff more often? It is fucking great."

So hip me to some good stuff, free stuff, stuff I gotta pay for, new stuff, old stuff, playlists, compilations, it can be a 10 yr old who plays the violin real tough band camp page.....whatever.

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all I got time for is murky organ - I need dark feelings to remind
Jan 12th 2016
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do you have a particular period or style
Jan 12th 2016
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Fam...I know nothing.
Jan 12th 2016
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      You have pandora?
Jan 12th 2016
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      no worries.
Jan 13th 2016
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RE: Mozart is as good a place as any to start.
Jan 12th 2016
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I'm not an expert, but I liked to listen to classical every now and then
Jan 13th 2016
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not sure if you rock w/ spotify or not...
Jan 13th 2016
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a shitload of great playlists here too
Jan 13th 2016
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Harold O'Neal has some LOVELY compositions (LINK)
Jan 13th 2016
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c71
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1. "all I got time for is murky organ - I need dark feelings to remind"
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Tue Jan-12-16 07:35 PM by c71

  

          

of certain specific moments of the 1970's. Don't have much need of any other feeling from classical music.



Suite, Op. 39: Cantabile


Marcel Dupre - composer (Jeremy Filsell - organist)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmAFuStzLLQ


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Offrande à la Vierge, Op. 40: Virgo Mater

Marcel Dupre - composer (Jeremy Filsell - organist)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfhmFlOsPm0


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Musical Flowers. Messa In Dominicis infra annum (Orbis factor) Toccata cromatica....

Girolamo Frescobaldi - composer

Michal Novenko - organist


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ttq6J895F-k

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Modocomor

Conrad Paumann - composer

Joseph Payne - organist


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_ddPWgEyDs

  

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thebigfunk
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2. "do you have a particular period or style "
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that you want to learn more about? I haven't seen Mozart in the Jungle yet (looking forward to starting it soon) -- is there a type or a composer that has you interested?

Give me a bit to go on and I'll help as much as I can.


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3. "Fam...I know nothing. "
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4. "You have pandora?"
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Just create a classical station, listen to it, take note of what you like and what you don't like and go from there.

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thebigfunk
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10. "no worries."
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I've just found that when someone wants to get into classical they often have some sense of what classical is that is helpful to follow up on... sorry in advance for the long post.

I second the advice here that one of the best things you can do is just start listening and pick a few names, pieces, or styles that you would like to explore more. This is the most important thing, I think, and the most fun. Even choosing a form that most intrigues you is good: do you like big orchestral works, solo piano, or smaller chamber orchestra settings? String quartets? As you listen, note the things that interest you and follow up on them. Many classical lovers become fans of a form or two because they find it speaks to them most --- so they fall in love with string quartets or piano work, and they really immerse themselves in that material. I'll come back later with some composer/period suggestions.

That being said, enjoyment of classical musics is often further developed by getting to know its histories and mechanics a bit more. The fact is that we're dealing with music that often operates with rules that are very different from our own --- and the goals of the music are often different, too. Getting a sense for classical's history can help you contextualize what you are hearing. There are lots of great primers on listening to classical music out there (off the top: Aaron Copeland wrote one, Karl Haas wrote "Inside Music" or something like that, there even used to be a few NPR-published guides that were pretty decent). These can also help with some of the terminology that new listeners often find confusing or overwhelming, and for making sense of the structure of a lot of the music.

A lot of folks have given good advice for listening and discovery here. I would especially endorse the Spotify playlists for classical composers. I can't remember the guy's name, but one person putting them together used to run a pretty nice classical-related blog and knows his stuff... they are great places to go exploring.

Other tips for discovery and listening:
- almost every mid-size town or urban area has a radio station that is either exclusively classical or classical mixed with jazz and news --- it's often related to the local NPR/public radio station or the local college station. These stations often air live (or previously recorded) performances of major orchestras (the New York Philharmonic is aired weekly, for instance) and operas as well. Of course, most stations air over the web now, too. My local station is at http://wbaa.org/ --- you can listen to all their stuff online. A great place for starting out might actually be a show called "Performance Today" --- it offers a pretty eclectic mix of live performances from around the world on every show, so you get a nice variety.

- Check out "Exploring Music" with Bill McLaughlin, a *really* great weekly classical radio show. (You can find it online.) McLaughlin picks a theme every week, plays a bunch of music, and breaks it down musically and historically. My only gripe with the show is that they make you pay for the podcasts through their website and even then the format is clunky, but you can listen to the most recent episodes for free --- or find a station that airs it and listen live or online. I have been listening to classical music for a long time and I still hear new music and learn new things with every episode.

- Find some live performances. Again, not sure where you are, but if you're near a college town or mid-size or larger city, there are classical performances around and they are often free or cheap. (Seriously -- even the big operations often offer easy ways to get cheap-ish seats.) The alternative city papers often have the most thorough classical listings. Most classical is meant to be performed and heard live, not on record (though that is a perfectly good medium). Take advantage of what is being performed around you: in churches, on concert stages, at museums, etc.

Saved two important tips for last:
-- Don't just look for what you "like" right off the bat --- look for things that challenge you, even things you don't understand but that intrigue you. One of the reasons I am passionate about classical musics is that they invite a different type of listening and engagement than what we are used to today (same with jazz and its related musics). If we only look for what we like, we miss out on the opportunity to cultivate an appreciation for other musical worlds that helped birth our own, and that technical appreciation often becomes a genuine love.
-- Listen to pieces multiple times. Listen closely, from the beginning to the end. Find time to listen without distraction (we do not do this enough today, just listen without doing anything else). Ask questions of the music.

Sorry for the long post - hope it is helpful in some way. I'll come back a bit later to talk about specific composers/periods.

-thebigfunk

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Austin
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5. "RE: Mozart is as good a place as any to start."
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I like his piano sonatas, but you could pick anything (symphonies, chamber music, etc.) depending on your tastes.



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http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2016/269401

  

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6. "I'm not an expert, but I liked to listen to classical every now and then"
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Some of my favorite songs and composers are...

Beethoven - Midnight Sonata

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tr0otuiQuU
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Claude Debussy - Clair de Lune

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvFH_6DNRCY

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Erik Satie - Gymnopédie No.1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Xm7s9eGxU

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Maurice Ravel - Bolero

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK23BhEQVyU

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Philip Glass - Violin Concerto, No. 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJW6T6WVn08

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Aaron Copeland - Fanfare for the Common Man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgj7_DmgDqs

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William Still (African-American Composer) - "Afro-American" Symphony No. 1 (Full)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AkltZeVcJE

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Also, if you want to listen to more modern 'techniques' like digital recording processing and instruments, film scores are a good source for music with structures similar to traditional classical music.

Hans Zimmer - Inception

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5IailIzqdc

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Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross - The Social Network

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yydZbVoCbn0

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Johnny Greenwood - Bodysong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31a2vq_v0c

*** The Social Network & Bodysong are pretty challenging to listen to, kind of how bop is difficult to listen to, but they are very well made.

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7. "not sure if you rock w/ spotify or not..."
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but here's a good place to start
https://play.spotify.com/hub/music/genres/classical

classics and essentials
https://play.spotify.com/user/spotify/playlist/3J3mTk0N0NzDOFgnp67Z75
https://play.spotify.com/user/spotify/playlist/3mg7N9OFaRZj2b9TiuRviC
https://play.spotify.com/user/spotify/playlist/4RmINrqBZGFs4NGTEWkeuT

ludwig van
https://play.spotify.com/user/spotify/playlist/4NPecrxm0zdPCIIzVTHUd9

bach
https://play.spotify.com/user/spotify/playlist/6NU0ShmUIAfINYj2K9exhU

rock me amadeus
https://play.spotify.com/user/spotify/playlist/1tNvLjwgTtsZH8RlbK6Yib

chopin
https://play.spotify.com/user/spotify/playlist/7c8DrfxBH6rkGNFaplx1Wo

handel
https://play.spotify.com/user/spotify/playlist/7gVL7hJn3T5ScMapiAdbgc

from there, like someone said earlier, just take note of what catches your ear and branch off. tons of different eras and styles to explore.

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8. "a shitload of great playlists here too"
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https://open.spotify.com/user/classifyapp#

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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes

  

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9. "Harold O'Neal has some LOVELY compositions (LINK)"
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Marvelous Fantasy (live)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H2DkAXPm_c

Trieste
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4wrBVP28wo

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