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"What year in music seems to have aged the worst in the last 25 years?"


  

          

I know that a lot of us hate labeling music as "dated," but most of us can agree that certain songs/albums just didn't age well.

In your opinion, what year in the 90's or 2000's seems to have the most music that sounded amazing to you at the time, but sounds aged/bland/annoying/dated at this point?

To me, I would have to say 1998, with sprinkles of 1999 as well. For some reason, I still enjoy 95% of my favorite songs from 1993-1996 or so...but half the songs I loved in 98 just sound ehhh to me now.

Here's some that I loved, but just can't get into as much now:

DMX & Ice Cube - We be clubbin (Clark Kent remix)
Noreaga - Superthug
Ice Cube - The entire War & Peace album
DMX - Half of "It's dark and hell is hot" such as the intro track
Cam'Ron - Horse & Carriage (and the remix)
Montell Jordan - Let's ride
Master P - Half of "Da last don" album (hell, and a lotta other No Limit songs)

Now it's still plenty of heat....Tribe "Find a way," everything on Aquemini, songs like R. Kelly "Home alone," those still go. There's some like Timbaland "Here we go" that don't sound as amazing, but they're still cool.


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The late '90s/early '00s mainstream music has aged horribly
Dec 28th 2015
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A whole lot from that era did age pretty bad. What's funny is that
Dec 28th 2015
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99-01
Dec 28th 2015
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Swizz Beatz will be all up in there (late 90's/early 00's)
Dec 28th 2015
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I am in full agreement late 90's to 2001 ish....
Dec 28th 2015
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its definitely that era
Dec 28th 2015
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RE: its definitely that era
Dec 28th 2015
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Oh I call those "Jiggy bells." Hella Bad Boy and JD songs had em
Dec 28th 2015
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      RE: Oh I call those "Jiggy bells." Hella Bad Boy and JD songs had em
Dec 28th 2015
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           It's a lotta small things…such as those pauses in the beat that sound
Dec 29th 2015
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                RE: It's a lotta small things…such as those pauses in the beat that so...
Dec 31st 2015
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                Whoaaaaaaaaaa that is from Kill Bill LMAO.
Jan 04th 2016
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                RE: It's a lotta small things…such as those pauses in the beat that so...
Jan 04th 2016
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would agree with 1998... Jay-Z's 'Pray' on the American Gangster album
Jan 04th 2016
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what's sad is almost every 'remix' version of Pray is FLAMES
Jan 09th 2016
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Yep. '98 - '03
Jan 04th 2016
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yeah, that 98 "sound" that was prevalent in the clubs was trash
Jan 04th 2016
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All of you hit the nail on the head.
Jan 06th 2016
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2001.
Jan 08th 2016
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pick any from 1998-2002
Jan 09th 2016
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From an albums standpoint, I agree.
Jan 09th 2016
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mrhood75
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1. "The late '90s/early '00s mainstream music has aged horribly"
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Either it's soul-less and mechanical, or it's so super-glossy that's unlistenable.

I'll try to pull out a specific year in a little bit. 1998 or '99 is a good start tho.

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2. "A whole lot from that era did age pretty bad. What's funny is that "
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some folks claim that it only sounds bad because it hasn't hit the "20 year mark" or some shit, but nah. Music from 92-96 always sounded good to me, whether it was 99, 05, or now.

And it is wild that music that came before AND after this 98-03 period seems to still sound good. A lot of songs from last decade actually haven't aged, especially club tracks. All those Twerk type songs still work just as well, along with that whole 2001-2003 East Coast set that we still hear in the club.

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3. "99-01"
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i think between all the boy and Girl group acts
and the facts you had way too many colabs and way too much of the Producer getting all the shine
and whomever was the money beat maker at said time it diluted so much
and it left things so stale and weak sauce.

that to me is why Napster was as big as the acts because folks were plowing through the garbage and getting to the main hits.

other problems was these labels were pushing the video version
and shoving the album version which was weak.

so alot of things hurt what you got.

also all due respect to No Limit records and Cash money and then Murder Inc, but toward the end of the decade you had the almost end of the dominant Boutique label and sounds were eating up by a latest beat maker or Producer of the moment sound dominating.

so the playing field got shrunk

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

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4. "Swizz Beatz will be all up in there (late 90's/early 00's)"
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Not just him and he did eventually climb out of the trash pile to become lowercase-ok, but all them super-glossy, simple keyboard "hey, no sample!" BANGER beats with them fake scratches always make me think of that dude running things back then.

I would need a list of each years biggest hits, but I'm pretty sure the "worst" year is gonna be somewhere between 97 to like 01/02 haha.

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6. "I am in full agreement late 90's to 2001 ish...."
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basically the whole Ruff Ryders Catalog was trash beat wise...


I crnge when I hear "money cash hoes instrumental..."

If it says produced by Dame Grease... its trash....


the whole triton keyboard over weak beats and that wack flange scratch...

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5. "its definitely that era"
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how many songs from back then had that fucking high pitch triangle <ting> over the whole track? let alone the wholesale abuse of chime trees. at the time that shit didn't bug me but in retrospect i just ask WHY?

  

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7. "RE: its definitely that era"
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Example:
Money ain't a thing by jay z and J.D.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcBH9wqQUnE

I can still fuck with this song. Dupri even comes off kinda nice on it. But goddamn it if it doesn't sound like they let some kid hit one of those call bells with the button on top over the whole song for no reason.

Also, re: the video, theres something charmingly innocent about throwing around obviously fake cash to show how rich you are. That was real big back then.

  

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8. "Oh I call those "Jiggy bells." Hella Bad Boy and JD songs had em"
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9. "RE: Oh I call those "Jiggy bells." Hella Bad Boy and JD songs had em"
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perfect name for it. I wonder what's in all the beats these days that will date shit like that. Hard to tell without the benefit of hindsight.

  

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10. "It's a lotta small things…such as those pauses in the beat that sound"
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like someone stopped the turntable. Also Mustard's "hey! hey!" Lil Jon quarter note sample. Also that Future/Metro Boomin sound that sounds like a saw…it's most famous on Commas.

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11. "RE: It's a lotta small things…such as those pauses in the beat that so..."
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The Kill Bill sound?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOy6hqzfsAs

What funny is... today

The Lil Jon "Hey" is a relic of the 00-02 era that everything we speak of above falls in...

Also the entire 808 kit being used is from that era...

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14. "Whoaaaaaaaaaa that is from Kill Bill LMAO."
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N yeah, it is funny bc the Lil Jon adlib is actually from 1997 "Who u wit"

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13. "RE: It's a lotta small things…such as those pauses in the beat that so..."
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>like someone stopped the turntable. <---- EXACTLY

  

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12. "would agree with 1998... Jay-Z's 'Pray' on the American Gangster album"
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bothered me because it had "1998 pop rap" elements in it. Same thing with The Blueprint and "That Nigga Jigga", my initial reaction was that "this sounds like 1998". the latter was in 2001, so that sound was played out 3 years after the fact

yet, I'm playing albums from 2013 like they're new

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20. "what's sad is almost every 'remix' version of Pray is FLAMES"
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I used to be obsessed with this remix by a guy named Rob Viktum, he took the sample sources from Donuts and redid American Gangster with them. I appreciated that it wasn't just a mash-up, but this song got immeasurably improved by a soul loop:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/ffj7sdlhe5h91nc/02%20Pray%20%5BViktumized%5D.mp3?dl=0


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15. "Yep. '98 - '03"
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I have no desire to go back and listen to anything from that era outside of Ghost's albums, the Blueprint/Black Album and a few random joints. Even the songs I thought I loved from that time sound like pure trash now (ie. Money, Cash, Hoes & Jigga My Nigga).

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16. "yeah, that 98 "sound" that was prevalent in the clubs was trash"
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17. "All of you hit the nail on the head."
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That '98 through '01 era was THEE worst time in hip hop. The extra glossy production and the one/two fingered keyboard playing sucked hard. I couldn't stand most of that crap when it was still new. Not surprising that most of it didn't age well.


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18. "2001."
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Singles aside, they year was for the most part meh.

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19. "pick any from 1998-2002"
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what a terrible time to be alive

I didn't even like it back then.

of course every year has its jams and some of my all-time favorite records dropped then.

but as an overall period of time, that shit was a dumpster fire.

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21. "From an albums standpoint, I agree. "
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Though I had rather fond memories of 1998, 1999 and to a lesser extent 2000.

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