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imcvspl
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""Mos Def and Talib Kwelie are..." - David Bowie"


  

          

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RE: "Mos Def and Talib Kwelie are..." - David Bowie
Nov 20th 2015
1
Bowie stays on some other shit...
Nov 20th 2015
4
      absolutely on someday at christmas
Nov 21st 2015
7
I like this
Nov 20th 2015
2
how is this "artist age appropriate," contemporary, and captivating
Nov 20th 2015
3
Bookmark for later
Nov 20th 2015
5
Interesting track
Nov 20th 2015
6
i'm loving this "late" period of Bowie's
Nov 21st 2015
8
Salute to the OG David Bowie. Still delightfully strange
Nov 21st 2015
9
Pre-ordered
Dec 26th 2015
10
love that proto-acid baseline
Dec 26th 2015
11
Up for the release and Bowie's bday yesterday
Jan 09th 2016
12
i almost bought the vinyl last night at amoeba
Jan 09th 2016
13
Albumm is fantastic
Jan 09th 2016
14
      if it wasn't for Montage of Heck, i would've bought it
Jan 09th 2016
15
this pretty damn dope!
Jan 09th 2016
16
love it, very Radiohead
Jan 09th 2016
17
This shit is a winner
Jan 09th 2016
18
Bob Dylan's Tempest was good.
Jan 09th 2016
19
      yup - a good portion of Dylan's latest work
Jan 10th 2016
21
You look like MC Hammer on crack Humpty.
Jan 10th 2016
20
its ok,Bowie always been hit and miss with me
Jan 10th 2016
22
'oh Bowie, you're so da vida..'
Jan 11th 2016
23
AOTY
Jan 11th 2016
24
Whole new meaning to this album now
Jan 11th 2016
25
.
Jan 11th 2016
26
oh absolutely.
Jan 11th 2016
27
RE: Whole new meaning to this album now
Jan 11th 2016
29
So this is similar to Dilla with Donuts?
Jan 11th 2016
30
      yes, very much so
Jan 11th 2016
32
      absolutely
Jan 11th 2016
34
      Found this Bowie quote from 1992:
Jan 11th 2016
35
Lazarus was playing when I read the news this morning
Jan 11th 2016
28
Girl Loves Me is the most Kendrick Lamar inspired
Jan 11th 2016
31
hoping for a Blackstar cover on Kenny's next album
Jan 11th 2016
33
"Where the fuck did Monday go!" - passed on a Sunday
Jan 11th 2016
36
      That might be the line of the album.....
Jan 12th 2016
39
very, very dope album
Jan 12th 2016
37
the LP is so damn good
Jan 12th 2016
38
yeah this is incredible
Jan 13th 2016
40
RE: yeah this is incredible
Jan 24th 2016
41
      well god damn
Jan 24th 2016
42
RE: ★
Jan 24th 2016
43
Oh
Apr 05th 2016
44

murph71
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1. "RE: "Mos Def and Talib Kwelie are..." - David Bowie"
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Dude just keeps going.....Respect....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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4. "Bowie stays on some other shit..."
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Am I hearing the chord progression of Someday At Christmas in parts of the middle section of this shit?

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7. "absolutely on someday at christmas"
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And it fucking worked, too, lol.


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go mack
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2. "I like this"
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I haven't enjoyed a full album of Bowie's in a long time, heard he had health issues and might be retired. I will check out this album tho.

  

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3. "how is this "artist age appropriate," contemporary, and captivating"
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all at the same time

LOL

  

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5. "Bookmark for later"
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R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
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6. "Interesting track"
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I always WANT to like Bowie's music more than I actually do like it. He has joints of course, but that last album was pretty meh to me. I really enjoyed the single for it, but nothing on the album sounded like it so I was thrown off. Legend he is, but his contemporary stuff isn't anything I'll throw on frequently.

  

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8. "i'm loving this "late" period of Bowie's"
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I hadn't realized that he had sworn off interviews and, according to his producer, just wants to make albums at this point (no touring either - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bowie#2013.E2.80.93present:_The_Next_Day_and_Blackstar).

A lot of what we are hearing feels to me like an attempt to mash up find something of a culminating sound, something that represents everything he's done over his nearly 50-year career. As such, I think it will take time to assess - here, I get giddy over another epic structure of the sort we haven't seen from him in years (long, multi-sectional, sprawling), and the lyrics have that aphoristic Bowie imprint.

And I'm pretty sure that is him on the sax - when was the last time dude played the horn on record?

Going to go back to The Next Day this morning, but I remember really liking a lot of that record when it dropped.

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9. "Salute to the OG David Bowie. Still delightfully strange"
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Or, How Twerking In A Circle Looks In The Future

ps: great subject header

  

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10. "Pre-ordered"
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I like what I've heard so far

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11. "love that proto-acid baseline"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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12. "Up for the release and Bowie's bday yesterday"
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Really interesting, need another listen but this is what I want from my aging artists. Just go full out left field and experiment and don't worry about trying to get on the radio any more. *Cough* Prince take notes!

Really wish he'd come back with a live tour but not sure if its his health or just not wanting to, respect it, just would love to see him live one time.

  

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13. "i almost bought the vinyl last night at amoeba"
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just off the fact that he'd been listening to a ton of kendrick before making this album, and I love the name. for those who have heard it, how is it?

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14. "Albumm is fantastic"
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"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

  

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15. "if it wasn't for Montage of Heck, i would've bought it"
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gotta youtube it

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16. "this pretty damn dope! "
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17. "love it, very Radiohead"
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18. "This shit is a winner "
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Has another artist made an album this good at damn near 70? Maybe George Clinton with the funkadelic project a few years ago

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19. "Bob Dylan's Tempest was good."
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21. "yup - a good portion of Dylan's latest work"
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is great and worthy of the accolades it receives.

But yeah, Bowie's recent revitalization has been great to witness and is giving us some wonderful music. I wish more aging artists would do what he did and sit out the game for a while, find some inspiration and direction. It really worked for him.


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20. "You look like MC Hammer on crack Humpty."
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re: those dudes dancing.

  

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22. "its ok,Bowie always been hit and miss with me"
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some things are top tier and some are 3rd tier. depends.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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23. "'oh Bowie, you're so da vida..'"
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24. "AOTY"
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...so far, haha.

Beautiful album.

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25. "Whole new meaning to this album now"
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Can't help thinking that he put his life into this one.

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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

  

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26. "."
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This news hits *hard* for me for so many reasons. Shit shit shit.


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27. "oh absolutely."
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fuck.

  

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29. "RE: Whole new meaning to this album now"
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I find it fascinating that his process involved our lack of knowing what was happening. Almost like the work has a timer built-in for it's power to be unleashed. I don't quite know how to put it in words....but the work can only be understood by us now. It was in a time-capsule before last night.

Very post-modern....very Bowie.

  

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30. "So this is similar to Dilla with Donuts?"
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"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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32. "yes, very much so"
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Both albums that the artists made knowing it would be their last, with many allusions made towards their death.

Much like Dilla, there will also be a similar response of people proclaiming Bowie as one of the GOATS (deservedly so) and a new generation digging into his catalog, along with contrarians complaining that he's being overrated in his death.

Blackstar is an amazing final act to go out on though, and with repeated listens I think it'll be recognized as one of the best in Bowie's discography.

  

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34. "absolutely"
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35. "Found this Bowie quote from 1992:"
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"The idea that the piece of work is not finished until the audience come to it and add their own interpretation....and what the piece of art is about is the grey space in the middle".

In a way....his death was PART of the work.

  

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28. "Lazarus was playing when I read the news this morning "
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This album just got under my skin
grand opening, grand closing.

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31. "Girl Loves Me is the most Kendrick Lamar inspired"
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song on the album, esp in his vocal phrasings.

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33. "hoping for a Blackstar cover on Kenny's next album"
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Something happened on the day he died / Spirit rose a meter then stepped aside / somebody else took his place and bravely cried / I'm a Blackstar


woo, sounds like lines from the interludes of TPAB, Kendrick's gotta get on that, I think Bowie would approve.

  

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36. ""Where the fuck did Monday go!" - passed on a Sunday"
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"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

  

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39. "That might be the line of the album....."
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Definitely caught my attention.

Blackstar will probably go down as one of the best Bowie albums.

  

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37. "very, very dope album"
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RIP

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38. "the LP is so damn good "
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here is a sped up version of

Girl Loves Me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBDoaIMpZw4

  

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40. "yeah this is incredible"
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I can't think of a similar situation to this. Yes Dilla comes to mind but I'm talking about

1) artist is aware that he will probably die
2) artist explicitly puts references to his death/mortality in general in his work. album is intense. dark. a "blackstar" is a cancer lesion etc etc etc
3) I mean, "Lazarus" what the fuck
4) Artist releases video for cryptic ass song "Lazarus" that is like, in a nutshell "I'm in heaven"..dies a few days after
5) public DID NOT KNOW anything about artists' illness

too many coincidences

I had only heard 3 other bowie albums before this (which I immediately downloaded after hearing of his passing), all of which range from great to amazing (self titled, Station to Station and my favorite Ziggy Stardust..mind blowing album) but this has impacted me so much...like dude literally made his death art. I'm probably going to dive into the rest of his discography now .

impossible to separate that context from the music. And the music is amazing - every track - it was a great idea to bring those jazz musicians in because the subtle jazzyness with that hard, driving, rock edge at times is just beautiful. I love the drumming here too. "Black Star", "Lazarus", "Dollar Days", "Girl Loves Me" are like....masterpieces.

the album and the circumstances surrounding the album are essentially what phrases like "he was on some next shit" exist for

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41. "RE: yeah this is incredible"
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>I can't think of a similar situation to this. Yes Dilla comes
>to mind but I'm talking about
>
>1) artist is aware that he will probably die
>2) artist explicitly puts references to his death/mortality in
>general in his work. album is intense. dark. a "blackstar" is
>a cancer lesion etc etc etc
>3) I mean, "Lazarus" what the fuck
>4) Artist releases video for cryptic ass song "Lazarus" that
>is like, in a nutshell "I'm in heaven"..dies a few days after
>5) public DID NOT KNOW anything about artists' illness
>
>too many coincidences
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then of course there is the continuation of his obscure meta references to the history of rock n' roll... such as this:

https://youtu.be/w_UHZ_62GCI

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42. "well god damn"
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43. "RE: ★"
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"I wasn't sure if I was lost or running away again. . ."

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http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2016/269401

  

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44. "Oh"
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Not into Christianity or penis. Alien thing came from a delusion about being involved in orchestrating the WTC controlled demolition. Heard Low a bit as a kid so it's special but more inclined to listen to Peter Hammill, Todd Rundgren or Gary Numan.

Some other fun facts about a cultural relevance commodity

Not Jewish. Not the telephone rapping individual. Not especial sexi, datdajoke. Air song reference. Never assaulted a woman. Observation that thread title + username = sentence. Mostly disconnected from current media. Something else, forgot.

  

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