i know a few people who actually think "compton" is a far better album than "2001".

but what do you all think?

Poll result (35 votes) "2001" (31 votes) Vote "compton" (4 votes) Vote

Can we like, finish up track 5 before we start with this bullshit? Good lord man.

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This is fuckin ridiculous. Can't let shit marinate for a fuckin minute.

i was just interested in hearing what others thought about these 2 albums in comparison

i ain't mean to step on your toes lol

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>i was just interested in hearing what others thought about
>these 2 albums in comparison
>
>i ain't mean to step on your toes lol

It's nothing personal. You're not the first. It's just that the album hasn't even been out a damn week. It's impossible to have an intellectually honest/appropriate discussion comparing it to any album this soon, ESPECIALLY not a masterpiece from the same artist released sixteen years ago. It just can't be done.

I just get agitated with these types of posts because the discussion seems so futile to me. The album is five days old.

Anyway there are some people who will definitely engage you, so I shouldn't have been such an asshole about it haha. My bad. But have at it. I'll try and keep quiet.

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i know it's a tad bit early but i know quite a few people who are sold on this "compton" album and i just wanted to get more peoples' input on it

but it's all good man, it's cool.

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rate albums 5 stars on iTunes before they even come out with a comment like "it's Dre...you already know it's gonna be classic!"

in fact, i'm not even impressed with "compton"
i haven't listened to it since the very first night it came out because honestly i was let down but i'm about to listen to it again to see if i feel any differently about it

i don't know if i'm just stuck in the past and can't move on from the nostalgia of "2001" or if "compton" really ain't all it's cracked up to be but i'm interested in playing both albums back to back to see what i think.

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...i haven't spoke to anyone that hasn't been disappointed with this new record ..kinda sad really ..Dre seems like the perfectionist, then drops this dud ..its worse than that record with "east/west coast killa"

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On top of him having made 4 completely different sounding albums. There's no real fair comparison.

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...to think about how I felt about "2001" in late November 1999 vs. "Compton" today.

the latter immediately grabbed me. been listening at least twice a day since Friday.

"2001" didn't hit me until summer of 2000. in late 99, I was not a fan of the album. at all. it had to simmer so I could listen without all the immediate "still DRE" and "forgot about dre" hype. I pretty much "forgot about 2001" until dre and co toured in the summer.

btw, I didn't vote...yet.

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Most of it, anyway. I felt then like I do now. The first half of it was great, but then the 2nd half of it you could've cut 3-4 of those tracks. Still D.R.E, Exxxplosive, Next Episode, Fuck You, What's The Difference, etc. all knocked right away to me.

I've only listened a few times, but I have little desire to go back to Compton, except for maybe 1-2 songs(Animals and For the Love of Money). It's really the vocals I can't get past. Dre sounds ridiculous.

me in the way that a lot of other albums did at the time. Yet, even a year later, it sounded better than all of those albums. I don't think it had that initial "OMG!!!!" excitement to it on first listen. I remember "Xxplosive" coming on and saying "oh this cool." Nothing on there was catching me until the 3rd or 4th listen.

It came out the same time that Kurupt's "Streetz is a mutha" dropped, and at first, I was saying "Streetz" was a better album. "Girls all pause" was WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY harder than anything on 2001 at that time, in my mind. Even at the parties in L.A, it got way better reaction than anything Dre had at first. But by Summer 2000, "Let's get high" was IT, and "Girls all pause" had played out.

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I mean, I get what everyone else is saying about it being too soon to compare, 16 years, etc., but "2001" wasn't an album I got in to that much. I don't think I've played that album in probably 14, 15 years. The hits are classic and I feel like I hear at least one of them every week or so...and I'm not mad about it, but overall Dre from that era wasn't my thing. Would be interesting to see how I respond today so far removed from it's original release and where I was at during that time.

"Compton" might fade away just as quickly, but production-wise I'm on board, which is something I haven't said for anything Dre-related in close to 2 decades.

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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the highs are higher than those on Compton but i like more of the songs on Compton compared to 2001.

i find 2001 unlistenable except for the classic tracks - Still DRE, Xxplosive, Next Episode, Forgot About Dre. but i haven't heard the album in a few yrs.

fuck you.

this album doesn't seem to have any hits, but i'd rather let it run all the way through than 2001

Promise that song was whatev to me til I heard the entire party yellin out "SOMEBODY HERE GON FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!" and then to hear the girls rap that last verse, as matriarchal as it is!

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i'd rather hear 'Backstrokin' by Fatback.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIOTV_ZtIwg

fuck you.

And guess which one I do, cuh

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Lol

LGH is cute until that chant ends and then I'm done with it. Outside of the 4 classic tracks on 2001 I don't recall having much use for the rest of it - including LGH. I kinda dig Ackrite and I like the line 'You can't make a ho a housewife'. I haven't heard 2001 all the way in more than 10 years bc there aren't enough tracks on it that are relevant to my interests.

fuck you.

Some L.A. Niggaz was super minimalist, but dope. The only songs I thought were blah were Car Bomb and Light speed

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Nailed it.

My main beef is that I felt like Dre settled when it came to the production side of things. When I saw that he started using some trap elements in some of the songs, it kind of brought a frown to my face. To me, it's like he gave in and tried to ride the wave of what's hot at this moment rather than be the Dre that I've always admired and carve his own lane.

And, the problem really comes when he makes a trap track that isn't as good as what these other young bols are doing with it.

I was really hoping to hear something that was forward thinking and left of what everyone else is doing.

I think he gave in to his record executive side too much on this one.

The track he did for the remix of Marsha's Stronger BODIES every beat on this album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu7pfcy1cJI

I know that he probably oversaw most of the production on this album although the tracks themselves are produced by a laundry list of producers, BUT, it would have been a better listen if it was maybe just Dre and two other producers handling everything rather than the mixtape feel that I get from the album.

Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.

>The track he did for the remix of Marsha's Stronger BODIES
>every beat on this album:
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu7pfcy1cJI

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>>The track he did for the remix of Marsha's Stronger BODIES
>>every beat on this album:
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>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu7pfcy1cJI

Yes, it uses the Come Clean beat, but it's not just a straight jack. It's well put together and I like the movement from Dre's verse to the main track.

Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.

>The track he did for the remix of Marsha's Stronger BODIES
>every beat on this album:
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu7pfcy1cJI
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>I know that he probably oversaw most of the production on this
>album although the tracks themselves are produced by a laundry
>list of producers, BUT, it would have been a better listen if
>it was maybe just Dre and two other producers handling
>everything rather than the mixtape feel that I get from the
>album.

Genocide is much better

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>The track he did for the remix of Marsha's Stronger BODIES
>every beat on this album:


am i missing something? its just "come clean" with strings

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Jeru's Come Clean with Sade's Stronger Than Pride on top.

They just said to hell with creativity.

>Jeru's Come Clean with Sade's Stronger Than Pride on top.
>
>They just said to hell with creativity.

Is just Come Clean and Stronger Than Pride?

Did you ACTUALLY listen to the track or just the intro?

Did you hear the pianos, the strings, the synth sounds added during that section?

Seriously, sometimes ya'll just want to hate.

Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.

Recognize when you're the only one impressed.

So they added some strings and pianos over the top of Come Clean that line up with Stronger Than Pride. That's not something that "BODIES" every beat on an album...and I haven't even heard Compton past the snippets.

And change your sig...that shit is old and stupid to begin with.

>Recognize when you're the only one impressed.

Ok. But I will always defend my point even if it's me against a million. Just because everyone else has a differing opinion will never make me hop on their side.

If that was my nature, I wouldn't last a day around here, much less 16 years.

>So they added some strings and pianos over the top of Come
>Clean that line up with Stronger Than Pride. That's not
>something that "BODIES" every beat on an album...and I haven't
>even heard Compton past the snippets.

That's your opinion. I disagree.

>And change your sig...that shit is old and stupid to begin
>with.

And right here you start with that passive aggressive nonsense. First you come in here making it seem like you're trying to assuage my heated response and then you take a jab.

I ain't changing SHIT. Especially not because you said to. Try that nonsense with one of these other young bols on here.

You ain't nobody's daddy round here, bruh.

You're just begrudging the boy cause I stood up against you in Brew's favor in the freestyle post.

Stop holding grudges from past posts. Let every post stand on it's own.

Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.

>>Recognize when you're the only one impressed.
>
>Ok. But I will always defend my point even if it's me against
>a million. Just because everyone else has a differing opinion
>will never make me hop on their side.
>

I never said hop on anyone's side. I'm saying take a step back and say "damn, maybe it is just some average shit I'm really feeling". There's nothing wrong with that.

>If that was my nature, I wouldn't last a day around here, much
>less 16 years.
>
>>So they added some strings and pianos over the top of Come
>>Clean that line up with Stronger Than Pride. That's not
>>something that "BODIES" every beat on an album...and I
>haven't
>>even heard Compton past the snippets.
>
>That's your opinion. I disagree.
>

And your disagreement is an overreaction to a good joint that is a mash up/remix.

>>And change your sig...that shit is old and stupid to begin
>>with.
>
>And right here you start with that passive aggressive
>nonsense. First you come in here making it seem like you're
>trying to assuage my heated response and then you take a jab.
>
>I ain't changing SHIT. Especially not because you said to.
>Try that nonsense with one of these other young bols on here.
>
>
>You ain't nobody's daddy round here, bruh.
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>You're just begrudging the boy cause I stood up against you in
>Brew's favor in the freestyle post.
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>Stop holding grudges from past posts. Let every post stand on
>it's own.

I could give a fuck if you stood up for your little brother in the other post. This has nothing to do with that post. And you can't think I seriously meant for you to change your sig or thought you would do so. It's simply the way I expressed the fact your shit sucks. That's it. Go cool off on a corner somewhere and be impressed by average ass remakes.

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For real bro.

You don't know me for shit.

I'm been cool with you on here regardless if we've disagreed.

Let's not go back in time when we've had these same back and forth in which you end up admitting that you were being too sensitive.

So save the personal attacks.

The facts of this are as follows;

You said Em's freestyle verse was "funny and dope"

I asked if you thought rape jokes were funny.

And then you got sensitive because you knew damn well you slipped up with the broad ignorant stance on his verse which in fact contained rape jokes.

Instead of resolving the foot in your mouth, you and this dude Remedial attempted to attack me and act as if I should overlook the rape joke and accept the entire verse of Em saying absolutely nothing.

Furthermore, you also attempted to turn it into "me not liking Em" when I clearly stated it was about the rape joke and named other MCs who I did not agree with.

Also, maybe I have someone close to me who was raped and had to deal with the shit you take as a fucking joke. But you never thought of that huh? Maybe that's why when I see someone taking the shit lightly, I could fuck you up like I would the person who did the shit.

I can't bring myself to read all that. I feel sorry for you for this whole post.

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Talk about proving a point.

You haven't read of comprehended one post yet.

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Then we'll start from there.

Until then, we're stuck at your sad attempt to make this about me and my opinion about Eminem.

There is nothing more to this entire back and forth.

And to think it started with your admission of finding rape jokes funny.

You still haven't addressed that.

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I expect this behavior from some of these other fucks on this board but not you.

>>>Recognize when you're the only one impressed.

I don't care if I'm the only one. You on that high school stuff and exhibiting the same cliquish behavior my sig addresses. For you, and only you, the sig stays...

>>Ok. But I will always defend my point even if it's me
>against
>>a million. Just because everyone else has a differing
>opinion
>>will never make me hop on their side.
>>
>
>I never said hop on anyone's side. I'm saying take a step
>back and say "damn, maybe it is just some average shit I'm
>really feeling". There's nothing wrong with that.

And, I'm NOT going to do that because I like it. Period. No one's going to like everything "I" like and I'm fine with that. But, I'm not going to change my mind because everyone else has a differing opinion. Simple. You think you have some kind of mental fortitude that surpasses everyone else's where you can convince someone to take an L.

Like I said, it may work with other cats, but I'm not the one.

>>If that was my nature, I wouldn't last a day around here,
>much
>>less 16 years.
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>>>So they added some strings and pianos over the top of Come
>>>Clean that line up with Stronger Than Pride. That's not
>>>something that "BODIES" every beat on an album...and I
>>haven't
>>>even heard Compton past the snippets.
>>
>>That's your opinion. I disagree.
>>
>
>And your disagreement is an overreaction to a good joint that
>is a mash up/remix.

Once again, you're trying to tell me that my OPINION is invalid. You're wasting time trying to change a person's OPINION.

>>>And change your sig...that shit is old and stupid to begin
>>>with.
>>
>>And right here you start with that passive aggressive
>>nonsense. First you come in here making it seem like you're
>>trying to assuage my heated response and then you take a
>jab.
>>
>>I ain't changing SHIT. Especially not because you said to.
>>Try that nonsense with one of these other young bols on here.
>
>>
>>
>>You ain't nobody's daddy round here, bruh.
>>
>>You're just begrudging the boy cause I stood up against you
>in
>>Brew's favor in the freestyle post.
>>
>>Stop holding grudges from past posts. Let every post stand
>on
>>it's own.
>
>I could give a fuck if you stood up for your little brother in
>the other post. This has nothing to do with that post. And
>you can't think I seriously meant for you to change your sig
>or thought you would do so. It's simply the way I expressed
>the fact your shit sucks. That's it. Go cool off on a corner
>somewhere and be impressed by average ass remakes.

See. From the first sentence you exhibit your saltiness. I don't know Brew from George. I simply disagreed with the way you handled things and expressed that. If you think these forums are solely for folks who agree with you in totality, then, good luck with that.

Son, VERBATIM, you said, "And change your sig...that shit is old and stupid to begin with." So, then, you just run around here saying stuff to irk people. You call someone's personal SIGNATURE stupid and then, when they retort, you attempt to tell them that they are OVERREACTING because you were MERELY expressing yourself?! That's what you wake up and do with your day? And YOU accuse other folks of backpedaling? Stand behind your words.

And, there you go once again making your OPINIONS fact and everyone else's moot. I guess you're the final say on all things round these parts. Maybe we should check with you first before we post anything.

You're a walking contradiction bro. I ain't indulging you anymore, mehn. You're obviously salty and are trying to find any way to TRY to make me feel some type of way. I don't internet troll and never have. Plus, I hear hanging with trolls gives you fleas. I'll let you rule the moat.

Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.

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>>The track he did for the remix of Marsha's Stronger BODIES
>>every beat on this album:
>
>
>am i missing something? its just "come clean" with strings

Does that NOT make it a hot track? Also, there are PLENTY other elements in the track just than strings.

From your tag, I'm guessing you're a producer. You hear them too.

Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.

>>>The track he did for the remix of Marsha's Stronger BODIES
>>>every beat on this album:
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>>
>>am i missing something? its just "come clean" with strings
>
>Does that NOT make it a hot track? Also, there are PLENTY
>other elements in the track just than strings.



here's my problem.. Dre takes an all time CLASSIC beat. A beat that is essentially PERFECT. Then he covers it in icing, sprinkles, little candy bits, pieces of captain crunch, hot fudge, caramel and whipped cream..

thats some shit that makes me wanna vomit..

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>The track he did for the remix of Marsha's Stronger BODIES
>every beat on this album:
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu7pfcy1cJI
>

You got DJ Premier and Stuart Matthewman to thank for that lol.

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>>The track he did for the remix of Marsha's Stronger BODIES
>>every beat on this album:
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>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu7pfcy1cJI
>>
>
>You got DJ Premier and Stuart Matthewman to thank for that
>lol.

I didn't hear any part of Stronger Than Pride in that 40 second segment, which is really what I was referencing.

Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.

but even still, it's come clean with piano stabs and sparse synths.
I don't see the big deal, but I'm glad you're feeling it.

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>but even still, it's come clean with piano stabs and sparse
>synths.
>I don't see the big deal, but I'm glad you're feeling it.

I know it's just an opinion and everyone won't agree. Thanks for at least respecting that.

Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.

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It's a beautiful thing when MEN can agree to disagree and keep it moving.

Wish other cats round here could do the same rather than "lol'ing" and "smh'ing" all over the cot damn place like those words are supposed to automatically convey an L when used in a condescending manner.

Wonder if in debate clubs these days cats can "lol", "smh", "na na boo boo" their way into a victory rather than following up their position with facts. Maybe personal attacks will do the trick if those fail.

Just venting. Not directed at you in any way.

Peace.

Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.

>It's a beautiful thing when MEN can agree to disagree and
>keep it moving.
>
>Wish other cats round here could do the same rather than
>"lol'ing" and "smh'ing" all over the cot damn place like those
>words are supposed to automatically convey an L when used in a
>condescending manner.
>
>Wonder if in debate clubs these days cats can "lol", "smh",
>"na na boo boo" their way into a victory rather than following
>up their position with facts. Maybe personal attacks will do
>the trick if those fail.
>
>Just venting. Not directed at you in any way.
>
>Peace.

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>Wonder if in debate clubs these days cats can "lol", "smh",
>"na na boo boo" their way into a victory rather than following
>up their position with facts. Maybe personal attacks will do
>the trick if those fail.
>
>Just venting. Not directed at you in any way.
>
>Peace.


Nah I feel you. It irks me too but kinda just makes it clear who isn't worth discussing anything with.

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As a big fan, I was blown away by how little I enjoyed the new album.

A friend of mine said to me, "It's not all bad! Kendrick has some good lines!" I was like, "If the best thing you can say about an album is that a guest rapper has some good lines..." lol

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and 2001.

Dre hasn't been the star of any of his solo albums.

fuck you.

the best dude could say was that there were good lines.... couldn't even say there
was a good *song* on it lol

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fuck you.

...that beat knocks harder than anything he's done since

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It's only right that it had one of those 100 rapper remixes.

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it just ain't got that magic dre's "the chronic" and "2001" have

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20 people who aren't Dr. Dre. No slappin drums, no mind bending soundscapes.

i must've listened to this album a good 10 times and still nothing really made me excited about what i was listening too.

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>i must've listened to this album a good 10 times and still
>nothing really made me excited about what i was listening
>too.

It would have worked great as a mixtape because it has that mixtape feel.

The one beat that I really like, which is the first beat on Loose Cannons, got switched up after one verse, never really allowing me to get a good groove going.

It just feels like one of those projects where there were too many hands in the pot.

Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.

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>it just ain't got that magic dre's "the chronic" and "2001"
>have

The production was dope to me. The lack of standout talent is what keeps it from having that magic IMO. None of the new guys blew my mind.

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blow your mind? c'mon son

They didn't need to. Snoop, Xzibit, Ren, King Tee, Kurupt, Em etc all delivered.

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already.

Compton is the type of album I would value more: I like more thoughtful/purposeful lyrics, and I like elaborate production like that. But 2001 takes the "Keep It Simple Stupid" formula and really kills it. Not much versatility topically, but everything it does, it does really well. Compton feels a little disjointed at times where 2001 doesn't

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