I'm sitting here listening to Streets Disciple and this was the album that followed the very vulnerable God's Son album. His mother was now gone and he got his mojo back after standing victorious over Jay. On SD he put a gang of filler on disc 1 but disc 2 had some real gems. The song with his pops is a stand out. I don't know if that's ever been done before by another artist. In our community it's unfortunately rare for a father and son to have a close relationship (because too often pops is gone). Nas and his brother clearly have love for their father.

On this album we get "Getting Married" which was the song I had on repeat the day I got hitched. We also get the aforementioned "Bridging The Gap", "WAR" (classic), "Me & You" (which was daughters before daughters). These are all very grown up records with varying quality from good to great. I wonder how much having Olu still alive and in his life directly impacts Nas as an artist, the position he holds in rap, and his persona as a man.

Does it have any impact at all?

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He was exposed to Black brilliance and intellect at an early age. I still can't believe his father was ok with him dropping out of school though.

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I would think having a personal, deep relationship with their father gives a more direct and impactful sense of knowledge not only about life but the ways men operate. Parents have a lifetime of experience to pass to their children, whether that knowledge is vocational or anecdotal.

I think Nas' prodigy was definitely influenced by having an artistic background at home. His use of words and lyrics to create an off-kilter rhythm to his music HAD to be something he soaked up from his father's musical knowledge.

I don't know much about the personal lives of rappers or producers, but it seems an alarmingly low number have healthy relationships with their fathers. Jay, Tupac, Kanye, Snoop, rarely talk about their fathers and I know the first three of that list did not have fathers who were an active part of the life as children.

I think more of the Native Tongue / Black Lily crowd has functional families at home for the most part. The stability at home might have led to the music of those groups being more conscious and personally grounded.

?estlove pops was around. Q-Tip had his pops for a while and had a good relationship it seems. I never understood the deal with Kanye and his pops but I wonder if he would wild out the way he does if they had a closer relationship.

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>I think more of the Native Tongue / Black Lily crowd has
>functional families at home for the most part. The stability
>at home might have led to the music of those groups being more
>conscious and personally grounded.

Nas' parents were divorced pretty early in his life.

Thought's parents were both murdered.

Dres didn't seem to have an idyllic home life.

Tip's dad died near the release of the first Tribe album (or perhaps just before the second).

On the flip side, gangsta rappers like Cube grew up in functional, two-parent middle class homes.

And great socially aware rappers like Andre 3K never talk about their dads at all (even though I swear he had at least one reference to being raised by a single mom)

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Good point.

I knew about Cube and Andre3K, but not the others.

Thanks.

probably played a big part in him going all in on being an artist. Plus he was exposed to different types of music at a young age.

>I'm sitting here listening to Streets Disciple and this was
>the album that followed the very vulnerable God's Son album.
>His mother was now gone and he got his mojo back after
>standing victorious over Jay. On SD he put a gang of filler on
>disc 1 but disc 2 had some real gems. The song with his pops
>is a stand out. I don't know if that's ever been done before
>by another artist. In our community it's unfortunately rare
>for a father and son to have a close relationship (because too
>often pops is gone). Nas and his brother clearly have love for
>their father.

Disc 2 had the filler IMO. Disc 1 was on point. Disc 2 had duds like "Suicide Bounce", "U.B.R.","The Makings of a Perfect Bitch" and "No One Else in the Room". Instant skippers.

>
>On this album we get "Getting Married" which was the song I
>had on repeat the day I got hitched. We also get the
>aforementioned "Bridging The Gap", "WAR" (classic), "Me & You"
>(which was daughters before daughters). These are all very
>grown up records with varying quality from good to great. I
>wonder how much having Olu still alive and in his life
>directly impacts Nas as an artist, the position he holds in
>rap, and his persona as a man.
>

His heart was in the right place on "Me & You" but yeah, not good. Only half of Disc 2 is good. Overall, SD was in heavy rotation when it dropped.

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his pops told him to drop out of school and go get his...

when i was watching the documentary i was like "wow"

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he could've easily turned it into "fuck you pops, you ain't shit for cheating on my mom" but he made it so that you actually understood the grown up shit he was talking about:

Before he left he taught me something
A child's young years: the most important time to be there
That's why he stayed till we grew up, respect is still here
I'm older now, see what having a father's about
One day they can be in your life, next day they be out
It's not because of you, you know the deal
Him and your moms feel
If they stay together then someone will get killed

He made peace with his dad leaving and featured him on his very first album. Then his mom passed so obviously that would draw them closer. Even through the cheating and fucking up "respect is still here" That's just us looking at it as fans. It's a great record overall, but hits home for those of us with no fathers. Nas: GOAT.

It's criminal that we didn't get that original I Am double album. There would be NO QUESTION to his legacy as the GOAT (although we know there "aint no best"). He's my favorite and I love that he writes songs from such a vulnerable place. That's what you get coming out of an artistic household. With that said, he does make summer on smash records which makes me just shake my head.

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