Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way... I just don't get it.

El-P has been terrible forever and Killer Mike is boring.

Sounds like rap music for white rock fans who want to name drop rap music.

Smh.

I like the album but it definitely has gotten way too much hype for what it is.

Folks round here think it's one of the best albums in the last ten years. BULLSHIT

it definitely wasn't my album of the year

i prefered rock konducta vol.1 and lese majesty...shit piñata was way better

el-p always has about 3-4 good songs...but i dont ever like the full album

but just the fact rolling stone had it number 1 already lets u know the fix is in

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

Vol 2 was just as good to me

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your ERA never low enough

not to me....(vol2 not same level as 1)

i think vol 1 being vinyl only helped though. i feel like i listen more attentively to the vinyl

i own vol2 on vinyl but haven't even cracked it. been listening on spotify

i like em both better than run the jewels tbh

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

I didn't even get the vol 2 wax (yet) bc the 2CD was cheaper & had everything in one package

i Think i played 1 so much that 2 still seems fresher so i bump it more

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your ERA never low enough

laughable to say Freddie Gibbs is in the same league as EL and Mike on the Mike….sad that Lib wasted those beats on a weak MC….

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

Freddie Gibbs is 1,000 times the rapper of El-P and Killer Mike.

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Falcons, Braves, Bulldogs and Hawks

Geto Boys, Poison Clan, UGK, Eightball & MJG, OutKast, Goodie Mob

I don't want to write a novel.

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Falcons, Braves, Bulldogs and Hawks

Geto Boys, Poison Clan, UGK, Eightball & MJG, OutKast, Goodie Mob

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

I'm not disagreeing. I just want to see a list

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Falcons, Braves, Bulldogs and Hawks

Geto Boys, Poison Clan, UGK, Eightball & MJG, OutKast, Goodie Mob

you realize you said decade right? lol 10 years is a loooong time bruh.

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

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Falcons, Braves, Bulldogs and Hawks

Geto Boys, Poison Clan, UGK, Eightball & MJG, OutKast, Goodie Mob

2004
College Dropout
Madvillainy
Tipping Point
Pretty Tony Album
MM.. Food
The Grind Date
The New Danger
Murs 3:16
A Long Hot Summer
Purple Haze
Detroit Deli
No Said Date
Streets Disciple
2005
Late Registration
The Minstrel Show
Danger Doom
Be
Monkey Barz
The Testament
A.W.O.L
2006
Hell Hath No Fury
Food & Liquor
Game Theory
Fishscale
The Format
The Shining
True Magic
Fried Fish
The Healing
Hi Teknology 2

to say that Murs 3:16 and Hi-Tek 2 is even in the same universe….wow…not even close…to each their own I guess...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

2005 - late registration, minstrel show, monkey barz
2006 - fishscale, game theory, hell hath no fury
2007 - return of the mac, graduation, desire
2008 - nys finest, untitled, renaissance
2009 - the ecstatic, pulse of the people, cuban linx 2
2010 - distant relatives, marcberg, oj simpson
2011- shaolin vs wutang, monumental, random axe
2012 - habits & contradictions, mic tyson, cruel summer
2013- longliveasap, float, albert einstein
2014 - oxymoron, pinata, ptsd

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

no...just no...and "Mic Tyson" had 2-3 dope cuts, the rest filler....come on man....

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

>2005 - late registration, minstrel show, monkey barz
LOL, LOL, BWHAHAHA

>2006 - fishscale, game theory, hell hath no fury
push, agreed, close (RTJ for me)

>2007 - return of the mac, graduation, desire
no, close (RTJ), LOL

>2008 - nys finest, untitled, renaissance
bwhahaha, lol, Push

>2009 - the ecstatic, pulse of the people, cuban linx 2
YES, ???, no

>2010 - distant relatives, marcberg, oj simpson
never heard, push, BWHAHAHA

>2011- shaolin vs wutang, monumental, random axe
no, lol, no but good album

>2012 - habits & contradictions, mic tyson, cruel summer
Push, BWHAHAHAHAHA, BWHAHAHAHAHAHA

>2013- longliveasap, float, albert einstein
close (RTJ), lol, close (RTJ)

>2014 - oxymoron, pinata, ptsd
no (love Oxy tho), very close (RTJ tho), LOL

Nevermind enjoy Run The Jewels.

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

on a technical level Monch is easily in my top 5 rappers ever. Desire, and PTSD just didn't deliver for me (never got around to WAR). so i hold his discog against him. and yup it was mostly the beats, cause especially on PTSD, he is spitting his ass off conceptually. Internal Affairs tho will always be my shit. it's a classic to me.

Sean P a sav bro, we all know this, but we know what we getting with Sean P. album, a collection of good ass rap songs, no more, no less. I will always enjoy his music, it's just not upper echelon to me...

and yes same poster. earlier in the week this account got deactivated, and when i created that other one, i did so at work, so i saved the login / password. i use bof now

just to be clear

rock konducta 1
rock konducta 2
piñata
glitches in the break
if there's a heaven below
give me my flowers
undun
andthenyoushootyourcousin
black up
lese majesty
good kid
acid rap
knx anthology
zip disks and floppies
in the ruff
beauty in all
people here what they see
tangible dreams
pryhme
raw money raps
marcberg
grief pedigree
the problem
trophies
wish you were here

thats just off the top some things i've preferred just from the last five years or so...i feel are beyond RTJ

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

>rock konducta 1
>rock konducta 2

lol, they were both good tho

>piñata

just under RTJ, IMO, great album

>glitches in the break

love it more with each listen, but no

>if there's a heaven below

no. 3 behind RTJ and Pinata. Milk is on fire

>give me my flowers

no! very good album tho. I prefer it to BTH

>undun

LOL

>andthenyoushootyourcousin

LOL

>black up

hmm, yeah, agree

>lese majesty

no, but def top 5-6 of '14 IMO

>good kid

agreed, tho I may listen to RTJ more

>acid rap

agreed!

>knx anthology

lol

>zip disks and floppies

never heard

>in the ruff

maybe

>beauty in all

recognize the title, but drawing a blank

>people here what they see

lofl. no

>tangible dreams

no

>pryhme

so damn good, but no

>raw money raps

LOL. Jae is a mediocre rapper

>marcberg

hmmm, nah, but it's close

>grief pedigree

fuck no. I'm def in the Ka sleepy time music camp tho

>the problem

???

>trophies

no, damn good lp tho

>wish you were here
>
the SamIyam LP? lol

agree to disagree

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

many of the same albums, no?

not really. I only like about 3 of those records

my highest (lese) is toward the bottom of their list.

you and them have RTJ #1. both of yall also piñata high and ahead of lese

besides those three albums I don't know how your stacks up.

but u agree with them (in rankings order) of the albums we share love for

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

get the fuck outta here.

no way.

not saying that isn't a list of dope albums

but not many really come even close to run the jewels.

rolling stone...agree. congrats!

RTJ aint even in the same stratosphere as lese majesty

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

doesn't mean it's not.

rolling stone is far from the only publication to big up RTJ.

It has a loyal following I'll give you that. If I say it ain't that special it's just alright y'all comin for my head hahaha.

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"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

...the overhype makes it less interesting when you actually listen to it cause you're expecting something bigger than what the album does

"yes, sometimes my rhymes are sexist, but you lovely bitches and hos should know i'm tryin to correct it"- hiphopopotamus

I know people who feel the same way...

I respectfully disagree...it was one of the best releases last year...

Too early to tell where it sits 10 years down the line...

It probably one of the best hip hop releases this decade though...

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you don't like hip-hop or you just have bad taste.

goes for the chumps above too.

you don't like r&b or you just have bad taste.


We don't really wanna do it like this, do we?


lol

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Days like this I miss Sha Mecca

which means _you_ have bad taste.

nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah

killer mike can rap his ass off.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

V.

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http://confessionsofacurlymind.com
https://soundcloud.com/confessionsofacurlymindredux
https://soundcloud.com/generic80sbadguy
https://soundcloud.com/miles_matheson

DROkayplayer™

but i understand where you're coming from

you may be one of the few. it's dope to me!



http://theReferralpay.com/?ref=37359 This is something new I found out about. Check it out and see what you think.

Both Run the Jewels albums haven't done much for me though.

Instagram: @von_clay

My co-sign above was for RTJ being over-rated not for it being garbage.

But R.A.P. Music and El-P's solo shit is just more dynamic.

RTJ is a very jarring listen. I love the hard hip-hop shit like the next man but for an overall album, I prefer for mine to have highs and lows and different styles all while being cohesive. RAP Music did a very good job of that.

RTJ is very much Mike and El going in the studio and do some straight forward shit and capitalizing on the fan base.

And there's nothing wrong with that. It's a dope album. But for the "best of the year" shit people are claiming, and now best of the past few years...nah...It's not that.

Just doesn't do much for me. R.A.P. Music was one of my favorite albums of that year. I still play it often. I listened to the first RTJ album with high expectations, and really didn't care to revisit it. I did, hoping it would click, but it never did. Went in to the 2nd one hoping it would be better, but nah. Neither is bad, they're just not for me.

But not a fan of the group.

I loved R.A.P. Music

I don't think their albums are garbage tho, just not my thing.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2j51hj4.jpg

I dig El-P production. Not much I am digging in hip hop as of late. B4Da$$ did not move me and I had to toss that out.

we keep it moving,

I can't get into this collab.

always liked him, but somehow not as much as i wanted to. like everything about him is right, and what i should be liking, i just dont always connect with it. thats something diff from him and ice cube - with cube you felt the passion, with mike i feel the force, but not really much real passion. he tries a bit too hard maybe.

>always liked him, but somehow not as much as i wanted to.
>like everything about him is right, and what i should be
>liking, i just dont always connect with it. thats something
>diff from him and ice cube - with cube you felt the passion,
>with mike i feel the force, but not really much real passion.
>he tries a bit too hard maybe.

like it just exists in its own little universe and thats it. it has no real connection to anything else. it gives me a weird feeling, like im listening to some sort of lab experiment to do with how these two rappers from diff worlds might sound if they were stuck together somehow.

do like RTJ but in terms of ambition, sheer fucked up-edness, inventiveness and experimentation, fantastic damage is still unbeatable. ill sleep when youre dead had some amazing stuff on there too.

I dig all of his solo stuff, company flow and his production on The Cold Vein more than any RTJ LP

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Falcons, Braves, Bulldogs and Hawks

Geto Boys, Poison Clan, UGK, Eightball & MJG, OutKast, Goodie Mob

he deserves to have some real success from his music, hes been doing this a long time now. so im happy for him, but do i really think its up there with what he used to do? not really. but it does what it does well. hes making slicker, more accessible music, it just doesnt really hit me like the older stuff did. but i still like him a lot as an MC, weirdly more than i do as a producer these days. but im happy for him and mike.

Don't get me wrong, I love RTJ. I just dig his earlier product more.

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Falcons, Braves, Bulldogs and Hawks

Geto Boys, Poison Clan, UGK, Eightball & MJG, OutKast, Goodie Mob

agreed. though i prefer rtj2 to c4c, which i found a bit underwhelming tbh.

if any other rapper put that out it'd be looked at better, but for an el-p album it seemed almost formulaic

If you're innocent, be cool.
Only the guilty's catchin' offence.

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>Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way... I just don't get
>it.
>
>El-P has been terrible forever and Killer Mike is boring.
>
>Sounds like rap music for white rock fans who want to name
>drop rap music.
>
>Smh.


TBH me & my guy had this exact SAME conversation around new years... My mentor was going on & on about both albums. I decide to take a listen one day & find unlike some other gems I missed over the years, this was not one of them. Based of him being a musical mentor, I was actually kinda shocked at how much of a miss the albums were.

https://soundcloud.com/jslikkmusic

I get distaste, but folks calling it garbage are just being foolish

I get a little bored with contrarianism. Two good-plus rappers and a great producer make an album lots of people really like (including lots of ppl who know what they're talking about, though also some who don't). It's clearly not garbage. It's just not your thing.

Which is cool, whatever, but you don't have to try to suck the rest of us into the inevitable cycle of hype and backlash.

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I disagree, but everyone has their own opinion and that is fine. I personally really like it.

My life is lived through words and how I mold them into poetry- Jorge Luis Borges

>Sounds like rap music for white rock fans who want to name
>drop rap music.

it definitely has become this. i don't think it was created with "white rock fans" in mind. el-p has been making his sound more accessible for years and the sound on rtj is a natural part of that progression

as much as i like rtj 2 and love el-p and mike's hard-earned success, i find some of their johnny-come-lately fans to be pretty annoying. my social media feeds are littered with run the jewels-related things links to the rtj marvel covers accompanied by text saying "i tried to tell y'all when they came here." motherfucker i tried to tell you about el-p 15 years ago! you turned your nose up when i played you pledge 2 and 3! i know my frustration is a bit irrational but bandwagoning (or at least what i perceive to be bandwagoning) rtj out of nowhere really irks me

but it could be argued that rtj is the best thing el and mike have ever done so it's only natural that they have a ton of new fans. who can say for sure?

But this is ultimately the fate/goal for any "indie" or "underground" act that continues to get bigger, right?

RTJ is cool to me and I like that they are finally getting the shine they've strived for, but it's not the best work that either of them have done, IMO. You *could* make that argument for their last solo albums.

RTJ was the victory lap for C4C/Rap Music. RTJ2 was the victory lap for the even greater success of RTJ. Now they're doing a third, and I just hope it's not another copy of the last two.

www.twitter.com/seandammit

>But this is ultimately the fate/goal for any "indie" or
>"underground" act that continues to get bigger, right?
>
>RTJ is cool to me and I like that they are finally getting the
>shine they've strived for, but it's not the best work that
>either of them have done, IMO. You *could* make that argument
>for their last solo albums.

agreed. what's great about their success is that they are finding it without compromising who they are or the type of music they make. that's a huge achievement for them

>RTJ was the victory lap for C4C/Rap Music. RTJ2 was the
>victory lap for the even greater success of RTJ. Now they're
>doing a third, and I just hope it's not another copy of the
>last two.

we'll see. el and mike aren't known for half-assing anything so the album should be fine. i don't know where they go with 3 since 2 seemed to be "oh they're really serious about this" sucker punch that 1's flippancy set up. are they going to go deeper into their sound or try to broaden it more in order to capitalize on their current popularity?

I think the albums great and I also appreciate a lot of the albums on the lists posted by others earlier and RJT2 sits comfortably with those albums IMO.

I'm just glad that a dude whose first album I purchased in 97 (company flow) has made it to the top without compromise..

I'm amped over El-P and Killer Mike in the same way I've been hyped over havoc and prodigy, ghost & Rae, Tek and Steele etc

I look forward to part 3..

>I'm amped over El-P and Killer Mike in the same way I've been
>hyped over havoc and prodigy, ghost & Rae, Tek and Steele etc

Run The Jewels needs a fan site so I don't need to hear retarded shit like this.

What's wrong with what I said? Coming at me dickhead insults..

I'm 36, and I grew up on and happen to like rap duo's with chemistry who vibe off each other and RTJ has that style from the 90's where it feels like the guys actually wrote their verses together.

I don't need a fan club dedicated to a one rap group.

I was out supporting hip hop way before you probably caught up via a bulk download of tinny mp3's..

>>I'm amped over El-P and Killer Mike in the same way I've
>been
>>hyped over havoc and prodigy, ghost & Rae, Tek and Steele
>etc

I'm offended by the comparison. We about the same age doggie. You can cluster EL-P and Mike with all that nerd indie rap circle Atmosphere, Aesop Rock,Pigeon John, I'll even throw in Murs in there (I dig Murs)
Next thing you gonna tell me El-P and Killer Mike is on Nas level y'all going too far with this shit.

>I'm offended by the comparison. We about the same age doggie.
>You can cluster EL-P and Mike with all that nerd indie rap
>circle Atmosphere, Aesop Rock,Pigeon John, I'll even throw in
>Murs in there (I dig Murs)
>Next thing you gonna tell me El-P and Killer Mike is on Nas
>level y'all going too far with this shit.
>


I don't know you, but I imagine you angrily typing with blunt stained nails, wearing a 'Wu Wear hat & Boot Camp shirt' whilst mumbling the mantra of "keep it real, Stakes is high yo!" over and over..

I'm not a fan of any of the above acts, although I did check for Murs until Murs for President.

I wouldn't use a Nas comparison as I was referring to duo's on the mic (plus Nas is incomparable in my eyes, he's a beast)..

Maybe you would have been less threatened if I'd compared RTJ to other indie acts as Black Star, Cunninlynguists (not a duo but almost) or Cannibal ox, rather than the unimpeachable rap god's whose honour you so bravely defend.

If so, I apologise for my hyperbole and enthusiasm.. Music can do that...

He MAD people his age LOVE RTJ as much as SOME of the shit we grew up on

He doesn't get he's in the minority opinion here, which is fine for normal music lovers. We all have found ourselves against critical and popular opinion here and ther

>He MAD people his age LOVE RTJ as much as SOME of the shit we
>grew up on
>
>He doesn't get he's in the minority opinion here, which is
>fine for normal music lovers. We all have found ourselves
>against critical and popular opinion here and ther


^^^^^^^ Get's it!

SOME people be acting like you gotta choose a classic album to put in the trash every time you listen to something newer or alternative, on some "Gonna listen to this Kendrick, so I think it's time to throw out the Main Source LP"....

Nah!! It don't work like that, you can enjoy both!

Fuck when did OKP become if you don't like El-P you don't like hip hop? Or I'm beneath y'all cause I'm not feeling RTJ, it's cool to hate on The Roots or Kweli but don't say shit about el-p or all hell will break loose.

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Wookin pah nub in all da wrong places wookin pah nub.