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yul_bammer
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"why was roxanne shante never charged with fraud?"
Fri Oct-24-14 12:20 PM by yul_bammer

  

          

for the years she ran a medical practice defrauding paying inner-city patients with forged credentials?

i would think that if she was operating a business practicing as a "doctor" she was billing insurers/writing prescriptions - right?

is that not completely against the law in new york state?

  

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i thought this was going to be about music.
Oct 24th 2014
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RE: i thought this was going to be about music.
Oct 24th 2014
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is it even true that she did this?
Oct 24th 2014
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it says as much right in the article.
Oct 24th 2014
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did she ever actually 'work-perform' as one though?
Oct 24th 2014
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RE: did she ever actually 'work-perform' as one though?
Oct 24th 2014
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      RE: did she ever actually 'work-perform' as one though?
Oct 24th 2014
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      That sentence really doesn't say anything, though
Oct 25th 2014
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           RE: That sentence really doesn't say anything, though
Oct 25th 2014
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                I'm not sure that there ever was a 'practice'
Oct 25th 2014
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                     RE: I'm not sure that there ever was a 'practice'
Oct 25th 2014
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if she was actually providing mental health services
Oct 24th 2014
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so you'd have no prob with your mother being prescribed drugs by her?
Oct 25th 2014
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PhD psychologists can't prescribe drugs
Nov 03rd 2014
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RE: if she was actually providing mental health services
Nov 02nd 2014
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MISTA MONOTONE
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1. "i thought this was going to be about music."
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interesting question though.

what ever happened with Tim Dog? is he officially dead?

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yul_bammer
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Fri Oct-24-14 12:24 PM

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2. "RE: i thought this was going to be about music."
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>interesting question though.
>
>what ever happened with Tim Dog? is he officially dead?

yeah, apparently.

http://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/mystery-rapper-tim-dogs-death-solved-n203776

  

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Dr Claw
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3. "is it even true that she did this?"
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>for the years she ran a medical practice defrauding paying
>inner-city patients with forged credentials?

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/hey_wait_a_minute/2009/09/roxannes_nonexistent_revenge.2.html

  

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yul_bammer
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4. "it says as much right in the article."
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Fri Oct-24-14 12:36 PM by yul_bammer

  

          

as well as the original nydailynews article.

the only thing unclear is if she was billing insurers/writing prescriptions...
but if she was pretending to work as a "doctor" - isn't this the entire basis of their practice?

i'm uncertain why she wasn't charged for fraud and/or sued for negligence/malpractice.

i mean if she was living as a "doctor" from 2001-2009, she must have banked some decent coin tricking her patients out of money for so many years.

  

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5. "did she ever actually 'work-perform' as one though?"
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yul_bammer
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6. "RE: did she ever actually 'work-perform' as one though?"
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"Shante earned her doctorate in 2001, and launched an unconventional therapy practice focusing on urban African-Americans - a group traditionally reluctant to seek mental health help."

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/rapper-behind-roxanne-revenge-warner-music-pay-ph-article-1.397495

  

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7. "RE: did she ever actually 'work-perform' as one though?"
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did she actually do that though or 'say' she actually did the therapy etc and the story just assumed so because she said so?

if she did, then yo, Id assume some charges could be made..for some sort of illegal sham bs


>"Shante earned her doctorate in 2001, and launched an
>unconventional therapy practice focusing on urban
>African-Americans - a group traditionally reluctant to seek
>mental health help."
>
>http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/rapper-behind-roxanne-revenge-warner-music-pay-ph-article-1.397495

  

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Dr Claw
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10. "That sentence really doesn't say anything, though"
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yul_bammer
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11. "RE: That sentence really doesn't say anything, though"
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Sat Oct-25-14 03:30 PM by yul_bammer

  

          

http://www.billboard.com/artist/369190/roxanne-shant/biography

"She went on to receive a Ph.D. in psychology, eventually running her own practice and building a family in New York."

in her own words after being exposed as a scam artist:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roxanne_Shant%C3%A9#Biographical_claims

"To be called Dr. Roxanne Shante was, and is, a privilege. But with that privilege comes pressure. I also had to live and talk like someone with a doctorate -- not an easy task at all. I had to make sure that people felt healed and inspired after speaking with me."

i mean how do you think she was paying the bills from 01-09?
i'm sure she had a nice little scam going and if she'd kept her mouth shut she still would.
i wouldn't doubt she was making 80k a year or more.

i just have no earthly idea why she wasn't charged and/or sued.

  

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Dr Claw
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12. "I'm not sure that there ever was a 'practice'"
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>i just have no earthly idea why she wasn't charged and/or
>sued.

esp. if the story itself is a bunch of bullshit.

  

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yul_bammer
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13. "RE: I'm not sure that there ever was a 'practice'"
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Sat Oct-25-14 04:47 PM by yul_bammer

  

          

by literally every account she ran her own therapy "practice" in queens.
even her own account describes having to fake her "bedside manner" and how difficult it was to convincing conduct herself as a doctor to patients and not arouse any suspicion of her qualifications.

the only thing that is never addressed anywhere (conveniently?) is if she billed insurers/issued prescriptions between 2001-2009.

  

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8. "if she was actually providing mental health services"
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for populations that have not had access to services before, PhD be damned, I ain't mad.

  

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yul_bammer
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9. "so you'd have no prob with your mother being prescribed drugs by her?"
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15. "PhD psychologists can't prescribe drugs"
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MD psychiatrists can. They must have a DEA number to write the scrips. Shante wasn't writing any scrips

  

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14. "RE: if she was actually providing mental health services"
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Your comment is the dumbest shit I've read all week.

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