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wrecknoble
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"Michael Jackson - Xscape (it's out there)"


  

          

deluxe version is out there

i'm gonna take a listen after work, so let's start a discussion in this thread.

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i'm reading that the leak's a fake.
May 08th 2014
i'm reading that the leak's a fake.
May 08th 2014
1
not fake, there's a grouprip of the deluxe edition
May 08th 2014
2
tracklist and proof scans
May 08th 2014
3
a couple of them reworks are huge fails but if you throw the originals
May 08th 2014
4
Timbaland was not the dude for this
May 08th 2014
5
i agree
May 09th 2014
7
oh please...timbo did a fine job. I would've loved to see mike & p
May 10th 2014
18
Well..........there's the story we always hear about "You don't have
May 10th 2014
20
Yeah I thought he did a good job.
May 10th 2014
22
RE: Timbaland was not the dude for this
May 10th 2014
21
      RE: Timbaland was not the dude for this
May 11th 2014
23
           RE: Timbaland was not the dude for this
May 11th 2014
24
           Thanks.
May 11th 2014
25
yeah, surprised me too
May 09th 2014
6
'loving you' is the best song on the album
May 09th 2014
8
the original version of 'love never felt so good' is amazing.
May 09th 2014
9
gonna wait; hoping to be pleasantly surprised
May 09th 2014
10
Im an MJ fan and a Timbo fan ...
May 09th 2014
11
He hates it
May 21st 2014
43
      tell him to bring his ass back here
May 21st 2014
44
Man...
May 09th 2014
12
^^^^^ i've had it on repeat all day
May 09th 2014
13
the og had me wanting to hear more from those Hayvenhurst sessions
May 09th 2014
15
I just peeped the snippets on iTunes and said the same thing.
May 14th 2014
28
Two bars in on Loving you, ahhh! 6 bars in, shit!!!!
May 09th 2014
14
A strong improvement over the "Michael" album.....a STRONG one
May 09th 2014
16
This is exactly how I feel about it
May 09th 2014
17
      I take back what I said about Chicago. lol
May 14th 2014
30
           That little West Coast bassline is dope
May 17th 2014
35
They done broke out the "Leave Me Alone" music for "A Place With
May 10th 2014
19
does the first track sound different?
May 13th 2014
26
I haven't got the album yet but
May 13th 2014
27
so there's no D'Angelo/Questlove track?
May 14th 2014
29
joe corn mo album review (long read)
May 16th 2014
31
RE: joe corn mo album review (long read)
May 16th 2014
32
Thank you
May 18th 2014
39
OG Slave is tight. reminds me of some Sonic music.
May 17th 2014
33
well he did produce music for Sonic 3...
May 17th 2014
36
that's exactly what it reminded me of lol
May 19th 2014
42
Chicago (Papercha$er Remix)
May 17th 2014
34
I am loving everthing that you are saying here...
May 18th 2014
37
Jackie said he loves the album and hearing it brought him to tears
May 18th 2014
38
      Yes, I am sure that it did...
May 19th 2014
41
Btw, I think Austin Brown & co. woulda been the perfect producers
May 18th 2014
40
Excellent album!
May 22nd 2014
45
When you think about how half of the album is outtakes from Invincible
May 22nd 2014
46
Sony COMPLETELY made a mess out of it all. Like, 2000 Watts??
May 24th 2014
51
are the OGs all out there?
May 22nd 2014
47
you mean like on the deluxe edition?
May 23rd 2014
48
I take back what I said about Timbo not being right for this
May 24th 2014
49
Me 2!!!...
May 24th 2014
50

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"i'm reading that the leak's a fake."


  

          

old versions.

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1. "i'm reading that the leak's a fake."
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old versions.

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2. "not fake, there's a grouprip of the deluxe edition"
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3. "tracklist and proof scans"
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proof scans: http://oi57.tinypic.com/3026ljp.jpg

1. Michael Jackson - Love Never Felt So Good (3:54)
2. Michael Jackson - Chicago (4:05)
3. Michael Jackson - Loving You (3:15)
4. Michael Jackson - A Place with No Name (5:35)
5. Michael Jackson - Slave to the Rhythm (4:15)
6. Michael Jackson - Do You Know Where Your Children Are (4:36)
7. Michael Jackson - Blue Gangsta (4:14)
8. Michael Jackson - Xscape (4:05)
9. Michael Jackson - Love Never Felt So Good (Original Version) (3:21)
10. Michael Jackson - Chicago (Original Version) (4:43)
11. Michael Jackson - Loving You (Original Version) (3:02)
12. Michael Jackson - A Place with No Name (Original Version) (4:56)
13. Michael Jackson - Slave to the Rhythm (Original Version) (4:36)
14. Michael Jackson - Do You Know Where Your Children Are (Original Version) (4:39)
15. Michael Jackson - Blue Gangsta (Original Version) (4:17)
16. Michael Jackson - Xscape (Original Version) (5:44)
17. Michael Jackson - Love Never Felt So Good (Feat. Justin Timberlake) (4:05)

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4. "a couple of them reworks are huge fails but if you throw the originals"
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in the mix it's a good piece of work...this actually surprised me

  

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5. "Timbaland was not the dude for this"
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Pharrell would have murdered some of these tracks


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7. "i agree"
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18. "oh please...timbo did a fine job. I would've loved to see mike & p"
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team up BUT when he was still alive...can you imagine mike over all them bangers the neptunes gave to justin, gwen etc. in the early to mid 2000s ? damn...

  

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20. "Well..........there's the story we always hear about "You don't have"
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to call" and maybe even Justin's "Rock your body."

Folks on here such as Mistermaxxx (not sure about Bammer) claim that these songs sounded like "fake Off the wall rip offs"

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22. "Yeah I thought he did a good job."
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Pharrell should have gotten to at least submit some shit. That would have
been ideal, imo, but I ain't mad at Tim's outcome.

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21. "RE: Timbaland was not the dude for this"
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totally agree with you

the remakes were weak
but the original have been
dancing

so were the originals
made during the period
of off the wall and thriller?

  

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23. "RE: Timbaland was not the dude for this"
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Love Never Felt So Good is from right after Thriller

Chicago/She Was Loving Me, Place With No Name, Xscape, and Blue Gangster are all from the Invincible sessions

Loving You is from the Bad preproduction sessions

Slave To The Rhythm and Do You Know Where Your Children Are are from the Dangerous sessions

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24. "RE: Timbaland was not the dude for this"
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>Chicago/She Was Loving Me, Place With No Name, Xscape, and
>Blue Gangster are all from the Invincible sessions
>

Between these songs and the songs on the fourth disc of the Ultimate collection, it seems like there was better material made for Invincible that didn't make the cut

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25. "Thanks."
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6. "yeah, surprised me too"
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Fri May-09-14 04:08 AM by xangeluvr

  

          

>in the mix it's a good piece of work...this actually
>surprised me

i listened to 4 tracks that sony was previewing and liked all of them. while not the whole album liking 4 reworked tracks was not expected at all. good to hear that the whole album is decent then.

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8. "'loving you' is the best song on the album"
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and basically justifies the project by itself. the rest of the songs are all pretty damn good too. this is certainly a better release than the last travesty sony released.

i'm glad they removed the america sample from 'a place with no name'. this new version is much better, imo.

'do you know where your children are' is very similar to 'wanna be starting something' in places.

still - eight songs feels a little skimpy. i wonder why they took the sly cover off?

  

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9. "the original version of 'love never felt so good' is amazing."
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just michael harmonising with himself and snapping his fingers over piano.

and it's fantastic.

  

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10. "gonna wait; hoping to be pleasantly surprised"
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Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

  

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11. "Im an MJ fan and a Timbo fan ..."
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... so is there something wrong with me for not wanting to get near this at all?

PS I'd love to know what MisterMaxxxs thoughts on this release were.

  

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43. "He hates it"
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>PS I'd love to know what MisterMaxxxs thoughts on this release
>were.

Was just talking to him about it this morning

For me it's the 5th best MJ album and a solid piece of work by all involved.

  

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44. "tell him to bring his ass back here"
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12. "Man..."
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"Loving You" got me smiling like a lunatic....

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13. "^^^^^ i've had it on repeat all day"
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15. "the og had me wanting to hear more from those Hayvenhurst sessions"
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from 1984-87

Loving You, I'm So Blue, Free, Fly Away, Someone Put Your Hand Out, Dirty Diana, Smooth Criminal, Alright Now, Another Part Of Me, Liberian Girl.... Michael, John Barnes, David Williams, Matt Forger, Brad Sundberg and Bill Bottrell were making some GREAT tunes during that period


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28. "I just peeped the snippets on iTunes and said the same thing."
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14. "Two bars in on Loving you, ahhh! 6 bars in, shit!!!!"
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The changes in the melody alone, along with a modern polish....yeah. I hope this can influence modern R&B, which is heeella stagnant right now.

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16. "A strong improvement over the "Michael" album.....a STRONG one"
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Hearing the "contemporized" versions after listening to the originals, I think Tim shouldn't have been the lead producer on this project. I like his mixes of Loving You, and can appreciate his mixes of Do You Know Where Your Children Are (the original and the 2010 mix that leaked with Steve Lukather on guitar was THE SHIT) and A Place With No Name

but She Was Loving Me (I don't see why they felt the need to retitle it to Chicago), Slave To The Rhythm and Blue Gangsta.....not feeling them much

I wish they had let John McClain (who did Much Too Soon on "Michael" and the solo version of Love Never Felt So Good) produce more tracks on this.

Hopefully they'll release more of MJ's work as he left it in a way Bob Dylan does his "Bootleg Series" releases....but I doubt it lol

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17. "This is exactly how I feel about it"
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>Hopefully they'll release more of MJ's work as he left it in a
>way Bob Dylan does his "Bootleg Series" releases....but I
>doubt it lol

All I want is OG versions. Am I really asking for too much? Lol

I haven't listened to all of the OG versions for this album, but some of Timbo's work on here leaves a lot to be desired. Rodney Jerkins' new version of the song Xscape is incredible. You can tell that he worked with Michael. It captures the emotion of the vocal. For most of Timbalands work on the album, his music doesn't match the energy or emotion of Mike's voice, especially on "Chicago." "Loving You" could be a hit though. I'm really anxious to hear the original versions of both.

The fact that the snares in the choruses don't have that extra snap to them shows they weren't totally being true to what Mike would do. He's not here though so it is what it is.

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30. "I take back what I said about Chicago. lol"
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I think I heard a shitty stream. It sound great on the album.

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19. "They done broke out the "Leave Me Alone" music for "A Place With"
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No Name"
Shit sounded dope.

I fux heavy with that "Love Never Felt So Good" at the top of the album.
The music is so very celebratory.

That "Do You Know Where Your Children Are" would be super dope if Mike could
resing it to reworked music. I like it, but you can tell Mike was singing to different music.
I prefer the mix with the heavy guitars that doesn't appear here.

I love Blue Gangsta. Both versions are nice, but the new one is ever better.

"Slave To The Rhythm" is a great rework. Better than the OG, imo.

I like the original "Xscape" more... just sound more MJ.

I like both versions of "Chicago" and "Loving You". Props to them on the new
versions tho. They're great.

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26. "does the first track sound different?"
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first track on the album, the reworked solo version of LNFSG. does it sound kind of tinny, like the treble is too high or something? its like the mixing got messed up because to me if you flip between the reworked version, the original, and the remix michael's vocals sound definitely different on the reworked solo than it does on the other 2.

i noticed it when i first played the album loud in the car.

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27. "I haven't got the album yet but"
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they only had a one track demo to work with so the piano, vocals and snaps were on the same track. Maybe just a poor mix

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29. "so there's no D'Angelo/Questlove track?"
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Or was that reported for a different release?

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31. "joe corn mo album review (long read)"
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as everybody in the lesson knows,
i am a diehard michael jackson fan.

i am not just a fan of his music, i am a fan of MJ the man.
it' true... i never knew him.
but his music made me believe in love, magic and god.
he made me believe in these thing because when MJ sang and danced,
he created a new universe and he invited us inside.

MJ had universes living inside of him.
maybe all of us do but mike showed us how to get to those mystical places inside of ourselves. and as a penalty for showing the world
what the human spirit was capable of, mike was mocked, attacked,
and eventually destroyed.

it was sad.



so if anybody thought this project was a cash grab and nothing more,
it was me.

and as somebody that is an MJ fan that
was looking forward to getting on my high horse and hating this album,
i have to give it 4 stars.





why?




let's get the obvious stuff out of the way.
mike's catalogue is complete.
the projects in his official cannon will forever be a
rebuttal to the far to common notion that pop is shallow mindless fun, and nothing more.

aside from a few missteps and rebuilding phases along the way,
every MJ project from "Diana ross presents the Jackson 5" to "invincible" was essentially a blockbuster album.

he wasn't a genius like Hendrix, who's best moments came from
improvisation and spontaneity. every note, rest, vocal tic
and drum pattern was rehearsed and engineered to create one
final finished product. diving through his unreleased material
would be like sifting through deleted scenes from "citizen cain"
and trying to pull together another movie. once an MJ project
was done, it was finished.

there is nothing left to find. any songs that didn't make the cut
were left behind because MJ could not fit those songs
into his grand vision for the finished product.



. . .which leads us to "xcape."
in which producers inherited the impossible task of
taking a series of hooks, grooves, ditties, and half baked tunes
and turning them into a finished product that is worthy
to have michael Jackson's name printed on the album cover.

of course, there were obstacles.
for one, MJ is dead.
so there is nobody to turn to for artistic guidance.
there was only person in the world that could have turned
these songs into the perfect finished products that they might have been... and that person opted not to release them because
for whatever reason, when he tried to get the songs to work,
they just didn't.

secondly, it's impossible to get a second take.
if a producer things a song would work better if MJ would
shift to a different key or change up the timing,
there is no way to get another take. the "breaking news" debacle
showed us what happens when you try to replace a one of kind voice
with a dime a dozen imitator, and fans were not fooled.
there is only one MJ, and what he left behind is all we have.

which leads us to the third and final problem.
the material he left behind was not up to par with the
sonic standards set by bruce swedien and quincy jones
and MJ himself.

these are snatches of songs where
the piano and the vox are on one track.

where dummy lyrics are sang in place of the the real lyrics
that never came.

when these demos were recorded, the only consideration was getting the idea on tape before MJ forgot it... not making a sonic
masterstroke like "thriller."




and so it with these limitations that we are lead to
this posthumous release.
let's face it...

there is no way this would be "off the wall."





knowing this, executive producer could have gone one of two ways.
he could have just tossed 2 chains on some verses,
tossed some 808s behind the demos, and released the album as a
cash grab. it would have sold. fans would hate it.
and we would have had just another bullshit album on the shelves.


but timbaland, in maybe one of the most courageous moments of his
career, opted to go sideways.



micheal jackson always said that he wanted to create music that
would live forever... like bethonvens 5th symphony or the nutcracker suite. michael felt that was his way to immortality. and as
the cover art indicates, this album proves that michael jackson
was a universe.


these songs are intended-- i think-- not an additition to mike's cannon, but a reincarnation of it.
the producers attempted not to
imitate what they thought mike would have done,
but instead find ways to give the demos a life.

the beats on this album are understated.
they are a showcase for mike's raw, mostly unpolished vocal
performances.

the producers set out to make beats to accompany the demos,
and the avoided the trap of trying to recreate mike's blockbuster
albums. instead, they craft arrangements that allow the grooves, hooks, snatches of melody, and rhythmic pulse of the demos take a
life of their own.

the end result is something that michael jackson never would
have released... but in the end, it's what he wanted.

michael wanted to live forever.
michael wanted his music to change the minds of men
and to embed himself down into the fabric of the universe.


in a way, this album can be seen as Michael's fullillngness'
first finale. in which the genius-- who was an American dream
come true-- outlived and surpassed his promise until he grew
into an isolated, tormented, shell of what we always knew he always was.

but in spite of all the darts that were thrown at him,
the once and future king of pop lives on.
this album gives his throwaways new life.
they still have his essence, and the producers had enough sense
to know they couldn't recreate what mike had already done to the fullest.

immortality, is a good word.



even the low budget video for the surprisingly magnificient single
"love never felt so good" is emblematic of Michael's transcendence.
people of all races, watching MJ videos on a computer screen,
dancing along to the magic that is michael jackson.


would michael have been pleased with the sonic quality of this record?
no.
but if michael jackson was alive today-- and in a way, he is--
i am certain that he would be pleased that his music was still
bringing people together.

that the producers took care with this album
and didn't riddle it with dumb guest appearances.
that the arrangers found a way to make his old demos sound
contemporary without resorting to cheap production gimmicks and
half-assed beats.
that this project was not just a cash grab. . .

it was a tribute from and to the people that loved him the most--
the people that are still in mourning that they could not save him
from his tragic fate.

nothing can top the music that michael left behind.
nothing.


but michael will live forever.
his DNA is in this new album.
somehow, MJ did the impossible again, even from the great beyond.

long live the king.

  

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32. "RE: joe corn mo album review (long read)"
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^^^^^^
I agree with all of this.

Except that from what I've read these weren't outakes at all but complete songs that MJ or label just didn't feel fit whatever album at the time. that doesn't make them bad songs. I really don't get the hate for this album. Just take it as it is...a reincarnation of songs the vast majority of people hadn't heard. That's all. Timbo and L.A. did a nice job.

  

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39. "Thank you"
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I have to listen to it now...

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33. "OG Slave is tight. reminds me of some Sonic music."
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both versions are tight.

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36. "well he did produce music for Sonic 3..."
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might have been one of beats that didn't make it...

  

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42. "that's exactly what it reminded me of lol"
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i'm very satisfied with the demos on this album

  

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34. "Chicago (Papercha$er Remix)"
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http://www.sendspace.com/file/88i9yp

http://boundless-expression.tumblr.com/

http://themichaeljacksonarchives.tumblr.com/

  

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37. "I am loving everthing that you are saying here..."
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I am listening to the "Escape" cd for first time in it's entirety at my sister's house. My copy of "Escape" cd should be in my mailbox in couple of days and I will be able to really enjoy it fully at home. I have been reading and hearing a lot about MJ within the past couple of weeks or so, some of the good and some of the bad stuff. For me it's it All Eyes on MJ right about now. My 14 year old niece is sending me links and MJ has been discussed a lot here lately and the whole Michael Jackson celebration for me has turned bittersweet.

After MJ died, I told my sister that I believed that he would have the same impact on this earth in death as he did in life and...I think I was right !!! MJ is now like a major holiday that must be recognized and celebrated!!!

And oh, BTW...I am very glad that Jermaine Jackson's damn ass didn't have any input into the "Escape" cd, (no disrespect to the Jackson family), I know that he is pissed off about the whole thing but I really don't like his attitude about his deceased brother.

Thank you for your input on this post, it has really added impact to my MJ celebration which has over the past few days intensified and turned to emotions of happiness & bitter sweetness. I am feeling happy & full filled with the way this is going today, listening to his new cd, I think the die-hard MJ fans really needed this cd!!!

I think Tim' did a great job on the cd and I do believe that Michael Jackson would have given his full approval of this music, I surely do!!! I love it !!!

We just finished watching the "Escape" documentary and we are now tuned in to the Billboards awards. I hear that they are doing the MJ hologram??? If they do, this might really bring tears out of my eyes which doesn't happen too often but if I cry, it will be all good 'cause, I am really feeling that the King Of Music is still with us in a very strong and positive way...

LONG LIVE THE KING OF MUSIC, MJ !!! Thanks again!!!

  

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38. "Jackie said he loves the album and hearing it brought him to tears"
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http://boundless-expression.tumblr.com/

http://themichaeljacksonarchives.tumblr.com/

  

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41. "Yes, I am sure that it did..."
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for the Jackson's, they lost a family member, someone that they grew up with and shared the same home and bed with. I looked at Jermaine Jackson in a different light when I saw him say on TMZ a couple of weeks ago that Michael Jackson wouldn't have been successful if it had not been for The Jackson 5. What is wrong with this fool!!!...During their years of performing on stage, Jermaine should know that all of the Jackson brothers could have walked off of the stage during any of their performances and the show would have continued without them. It seems that Jermaine was very jealous of Michael's success but I thought that they had made amends long before MJ died. It seems that after all of the years that him & Michael were brothers, Jermaine should see that Michael was different from the rest and be thankful for the love and success that he has received mainly for being Michael Jackson's brother. Jermaine is a great singer & entertainer but nothing close to Michael, I hope he wakes up to this fact before his ass gets too old to open his eyes!!! Boy PLEASE wake up and leave them narcotics alone !!!

I am very happy about the Xscape album and today, I have become more excited and enthusiastic about it. I am sure that this new MJ music is a very happy yet emotional moment for a lot of people all over the world. WOW!!! This new cd brings me back to MJ's album, "Invincible", looks like this is true...The King still lives !!!


I LUV ALL A' Y'ALL!!! !!!

  

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40. "Btw, I think Austin Brown & co. woulda been the perfect producers"
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to bring in for this.
I think Austin, Tim, and Pharrell should have all done their mixes and the best
chosen from them.

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45. "Excellent album!"
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They did a great job reworking the songs. Album sounds FRESH! Timbo did THE DAMN THANG! I have been listening to it almost everyday.

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46. "When you think about how half of the album is outtakes from Invincible"
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along with songs like One More Chance, Hollywood Tonight, Another Day, Fall Again, Beautiful Girl, Shout, We've Had Enough

what went behind choosing the songs that made the final cut? Maybe those rumors about Sony rejecting certain songs was true. The album DID have several delays from 1999 to 2001


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51. "Sony COMPLETELY made a mess out of it all. Like, 2000 Watts??"
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I figure MJ gets blame for rejecting "You don't have to call"....but even for people who don't think that song was great, or a great fit for him...no way to deny that it would kill 90% of Invincible.

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47. "are the OGs all out there?"
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youtube or something better maybe?

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48. "you mean like on the deluxe edition?"
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comes with the originals on a second disk.

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49. "I take back what I said about Timbo not being right for this"
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I've been listening to this album a lot lately and the Timbo/MJ mix kinda feels right. I feel like some of those beats MJ would've chosen on his own anyways. Kinda feels like something that would've been on Invincible.

Not to say I wouldn't want to hear what P or someone else could've done with it, but it's a good project front to back and I'm satisfied with it.

  

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50. "Me 2!!!..."
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>I've been listening to this album a lot lately and the
>Timbo/MJ mix kinda feels right. I feel like some of those
>beats MJ would've chosen on his own anyways. Kinda feels like
>something that would've been on Invincible.
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>Not to say I wouldn't want to hear what P or someone else
>could've done with it, but it's a good project front to back
>and I'm satisfied with it.

...I agree!!!




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