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Kid Ray
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"How are people like Freddie Gibbs getting good production."


  

          

That Pinata album is hard to listen to once Gibbs starts going. Another reason Midlib is not top anything.

  

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This logic is not sound at all:
Apr 24th 2014
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yeah. that made no sense
Apr 24th 2014
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I get what he is saying
Apr 24th 2014
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      Nah..
Apr 26th 2014
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           nigga nobody talking about record sales
Apr 26th 2014
59
                Not exclusively, but your argument can be used to that end...
Apr 27th 2014
63
                We don't have a device for who exactly buys records either
Apr 27th 2014
66
                but if the beats are great on their own, how can he be “MidLib”
Jul 07th 2019
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                why are using industry terms like spins incorrectly?
Aug 05th 2019
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how do you have some of the shittiest taste on this board
Apr 24th 2014
2
I also don't like El-P/Run the Jewels. Gibbs is garb.
Apr 24th 2014
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      continue to fuck up your own track record with this nonsense.
Apr 24th 2014
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      can you elaborate on what you don't like about gibbs?
Apr 24th 2014
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      The man lacks creativity, not clever at all, dull topics
Apr 24th 2014
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           i'm inclined to agree
Apr 24th 2014
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           he got a lot more personal on Midwestgangsta...
Apr 24th 2014
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           wait...but you like Mac Miller? bwahahahahaha so really
Apr 24th 2014
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                mac miller went from vapid to dope n/m
Apr 24th 2014
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                he's still vapid, just with a shiny new "no, really, i'm cool!" plating
Apr 24th 2014
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                Mac's on the same level as El-P and y'all worship him.
Apr 24th 2014
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                     ^ went off the deep end ^
Apr 24th 2014
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                          I know EL-P is god around here
Apr 25th 2014
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      Post 8.
Apr 24th 2014
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Apr 24th 2014
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           these rap dudes be fuckin u and ur girl in the ass dont they?
Apr 24th 2014
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                an internet burn! my life is ruined!
Apr 24th 2014
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lol. the hell is wrong with Gibbs??
Apr 24th 2014
6
after a week or two i got so sick of Gibbs i sold the CD back
Apr 24th 2014
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RE: after a week or two i got so sick of Gibbs i sold the CD back
Apr 24th 2014
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white
Apr 24th 2014
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please get off my dick & tell your bitch to come here
Apr 24th 2014
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      horny lil devil you better back up, horny lil devil you can't bust a nut
Apr 26th 2014
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           that's what she told you huh?
Apr 27th 2014
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but Verbal Kent is a good rapper right?
Apr 24th 2014
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I actually agree with this for the most part,
Apr 24th 2014
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So you don’t like Cuban Linx or The Infamous?
Aug 05th 2019
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Yeah, you're 25 or under. Gibbs is from the Y chromosome era
Apr 24th 2014
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Ohh my. LOFL
Apr 24th 2014
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RE: Yeah, you're 25 or under. Gibbs is from the Y chromosome era
Apr 24th 2014
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perfect
Apr 24th 2014
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And for the record this is actually what the song "Deeper" is about.
Apr 24th 2014
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archive.
Apr 25th 2014
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Classic
Apr 25th 2014
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perrrrrrrrrrrunnnnnnn *don-waaan deemarco*
Apr 25th 2014
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fucking BURN
Apr 25th 2014
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Y'all really know how to piggy back some mediocre shit
Apr 25th 2014
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Some of your best work ever, lmao
Apr 27th 2014
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RE: Yeah, you're 25 or under. Gibbs is from the Y chromosome era
Apr 27th 2014
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pretty much.
Apr 28th 2014
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OE this made me want to get back in the game
Jul 07th 2019
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You must be trying to be a fucking astronaut
Apr 24th 2014
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lol Gibbs was so hurt & emotional on that song
Apr 24th 2014
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ohh but there's no depth right Phil
Apr 24th 2014
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      if u call a street dude crying cause his ex likes squares "depth"...
Apr 24th 2014
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           no doubt. fair. daps
Apr 24th 2014
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           You missed the point of that song
Aug 05th 2019
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LOL that's my favorite song w Freddie Gibbs. n/m
Jul 01st 2019
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Gibbs is basic as fuck. but wack rappers on hot beats ain't anything
Apr 24th 2014
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Scottie Pippens is still really my only Gibbs moment that matters to me
Apr 25th 2014
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love that song
Apr 25th 2014
47
Gibbs is thousands of times better than Roddy or Currensy
Apr 25th 2014
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you have turrbl taste/opinions in everything
Apr 26th 2014
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      Hey but not the shittiest
Apr 27th 2014
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           So “Kid Ray” is an alias for “southphillyman”?
Aug 07th 2019
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Yea, Gibbs don't do it for me either
Apr 24th 2014
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RE: How are people like Freddie Gibbs getting good production.
Apr 24th 2014
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I'm sayin
Apr 25th 2014
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If that puzzles you then you should see his girlfriend
Apr 24th 2014
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Joey Badass was created just for guys like you
Apr 24th 2014
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god damn. yall goin in
Apr 24th 2014
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I'm not really feelin this Pinata album so far, I'll give it more plays
Apr 25th 2014
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switch "freddie gibbs" with "roc marciano" and we have a deal
Apr 25th 2014
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I'm not a fan o Gibbs either. Only bought it because Lib produced it all
Apr 26th 2014
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I apologize for this dumb ass comment, Freddie
Aug 10th 2019
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You act like he's Mickey Factz or something.
Apr 26th 2014
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By being a rapper who's open to the sounds of good producers.
Apr 27th 2014
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#WhiteTwitter azz post
Jul 01st 2019
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wth
Jul 01st 2019
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H E R B
Jul 02nd 2019
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he probably pays them very well, good start
Jul 07th 2019
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RE: How are people like Freddie Gibbs getting good production.
Aug 09th 2019
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mrhood75
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1. "This logic is not sound at all:"
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Thu Apr-24-14 01:43 AM by mrhood75

  

          

>That Pinata album is hard to listen to once Gibbs starts
>going. Another reason Midlib is not top anything.

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13. "yeah. that made no sense"
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the_time_is_when_god...lounge
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20. "I get what he is saying"
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Usually, in order for production or lyricism to be acclaimed, the entire package has to be celebrated.

His point is that Madlib gives beats to mediocre emcees that in turn make mediocre projects with great madlib beats, so no one really checks it out like that.

It makes sense if you think of what your favorite songs are production wise. 95% chance that the songs you think of are dope in every aspect

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Clarence Clarke
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55. "Nah.."
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>Usually, in order for production or lyricism to be acclaimed,
>the entire package has to be celebrated.
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>His point is that Madlib gives beats to mediocre emcees that
>in turn make mediocre projects with great madlib beats, so no
>one really checks it out like that.
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>It makes sense if you think of what your favorite songs are
>production wise. 95% chance that the songs you think of are
>dope in every aspect
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Still, when talking about how great a beatmaker is, we're talking about the
beats alone. What you describe above is how to preserve the sheep mentality
of talking about who sold more and whatnot.

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the_time_is_when_god...lounge
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59. "nigga nobody talking about record sales"
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If the entire package not good people probably won't check for it. That's the bottom line. I'm not discussing commercial acclaim. I'm talking cats that we would consider serious music listeners.

Wack beats with great lyrics rarely gets spins.
Great beats with wack lyrics also rarely gets spins.

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63. "Not exclusively, but your argument can be used to that end..."
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Sun Apr-27-14 09:27 AM by Clarence Clarke

  

          

and, inevitably, *has* to end there unless you have a device that monitors all
the "serious music listeners" of the world.

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66. "We don't have a device for who exactly buys records either"
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we do know, however, what acclaim is. We also have our own devices to determine credibility among those who claim to be knowledgeable in our culture.

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73. "but if the beats are great on their own, how can he be “MidLib”"
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lol... a funny name... though I don’t agree with it at all.

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76. "why are using industry terms like spins incorrectly?"
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>Wack beats with great lyrics rarely gets spins.
>Great beats with wack lyrics also rarely gets spins.

Spins = radio term

And loads of songs that arguably fit particularly the second of those categories have gotten spins.

Even if you mean spins to mean playing in your house (which isn’t where the term comes from), a lot of people have personal classics where either the beat or lyrics outshine one another. Off the top of my head, Tried by 12 comes immediately to mind. On the other side of the coin, I won’t be listening to the instrumental to Remain Anonymous any time soon (although I think the beat is decent enough in the context of the song).

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2. "how do you have some of the shittiest taste on this board"
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and haven't been Banned yet

I mean you really LIKED Mac Miller's album

take this opinion and go fuck yourself

  

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3. "I also don't like El-P/Run the Jewels. Gibbs is garb."
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I don't need to be apart of any clicks round here that requires one to think that everything Madlib or El-P does is the greatest. Bottom line is Piata has outstanding production but it's ruined by Mr. Gibbs which fucks ups Madlibs track record lots of his work has shitty people rhyming on it.

  

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4. "continue to fuck up your own track record with this nonsense."
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Gibbs has been getting great production for 7 years now and it's because he's been pumping out a top 5 flow for nearly a decade.

it's not rocket science. so you don't like one great rapper, no need to brag about it. it's embarrassing.

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5. "can you elaborate on what you don't like about gibbs?"
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i'm not going to try to convince you that he's good; just interested to hear the specific things that cause someone to dislike him

and lib has produced a ton of tracks for middling-at-best rappers, but premier and timbo have done so, too. his (or anyone's) production legacy can't be marred (fairly anyway) by the rappers that rap over his beats

  

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Kid Ray
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12. "The man lacks creativity, not clever at all, dull topics"
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14. "i'm inclined to agree"
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i mainly enjoy him on a purely technical level. fwiw i think he's at his creative peak on this album

  

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16. "he got a lot more personal on Midwestgangsta..."
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but it's a right combination of smooth beats and smooth flows on this album so I can see why folks would think his lyrical game has stepped up alongside Madlib's production.

when really it's just a course correction from the detour that was those two years under Jeezy.

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33. "wait...but you like Mac Miller? bwahahahahaha so really"
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Gibbs should be white and wear tighter jeans.

That's it.

Then his music would be ironic or something.

  

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34. "mac miller went from vapid to dope n/m"
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40. "he's still vapid, just with a shiny new "no, really, i'm cool!" plating"
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Thu Apr-24-14 04:04 PM by bearfield

  

          

"you guys! i listened to all the stuff you used to listen to! check it out!" his beats sound like knockoffs of actual rap producers' beats (see: "stolen youth"). full disclosure: i haven't heard the entirety of "watching movies..." but the few tracks i did hear discouraged me from listening to the rest of it

edit: i can't believe they still haven't fixed that subject line quotation bug bullshit

  

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41. "Mac's on the same level as El-P and y'all worship him."
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Thu Apr-24-14 06:18 PM by Kid Ray

  

          

Guess the white backpack movement gets a pass round here. Gibbs hasn't made anything as good as watching movies with the sound off.

  

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42. "^ went off the deep end ^"
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Thu Apr-24-14 06:23 PM by Kosa12

  

          

LMFAO

Mac Miller's last album was good though, but to be honest thats mostly down to the production, though he did step it up lyrically. The production was nuts though, was really surprised I wasn't straight up hating something by him, like I normally do...moving on....

still doesn't change that in my opinion what you just said is ludacris though. El-P is like infinitely times the better rapper....

to each his own I guess

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54. "I know EL-P is god around here "
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9. "Post 8. "
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15. ""
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SIKE!

  

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19. "these rap dudes be fuckin u and ur girl in the ass dont they?"
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tell the truth now

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31. "an internet burn! my life is ruined!"
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http://bit.ly/1hqAEVG

  

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6. "lol. the hell is wrong with Gibbs??"
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7. "after a week or two i got so sick of Gibbs i sold the CD back"
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Thu Apr-24-14 06:11 AM by philpot

  

          

not his flow, not any of that...he's a pretty skilled rapper

but the constant stream of mind numbing ignorance & negativity was too much, i can do better things w/ my music listening time

the parade of cornball ass guests did not help either

these are the cats whose rhymes yall think stand up to the classic era?

smh

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17. "RE: after a week or two i got so sick of Gibbs i sold the CD back"
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...Agreed, did the same thing...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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22. "white"
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23. "please get off my dick & tell your bitch to come here"
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58. "horny lil devil you better back up, horny lil devil you can't bust a nut"
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Looking at my girlfriend black skin, you wanna get in but she don't like white men...

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62. "that's what she told you huh?"
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30. "but Verbal Kent is a good rapper right? "
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Cmon man...

I get it- you want to hear more positivity in your music. I don't knock that...(though I'm inclined to point out art imitates life and there's no sense putting our head in the sand to the evils of life...but I digress...)

Instead I'll just point out that you like a lot of wack sh!t too.

You seem to give some of these bums a pass just because the subject matter is more to your liking.

I could make the same argument that Ugly Heroes dudes didn't deserve the production AB hooked them up with because they are simply BAD at rapping.

Like...not good. At all.

I mean...wouldn't even be in this rap sh!t if their skin was a different shade bad.

I just don't get how someone who likes rap music can listen to Pinata and write it off because of the "negative" content.

Your music library must be VERY small...

And your movie collection....

Must not read the paper or watch the news...

etc etc.



  

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32. "I actually agree with this for the most part,"
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part of the reason why I could never get into Gibbs' projects that had lesser production. I never saw the complexities or nuances in his content.

  

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77. "So you don’t like Cuban Linx or The Infamous?"
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>not his flow, not any of that...he's a pretty skilled rapper
>
>but the constant stream of mind numbing ignorance & negativity
>was too much, i can do better things w/ my music listening
>time
>
>the parade of cornball ass guests did not help either
>
>these are the cats whose rhymes yall think stand up to the
>classic era?
>
>smh


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8. "Yeah, you're 25 or under. Gibbs is from the Y chromosome era"
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He's for an era where niggas knew how to do pushups,
weren't hoe bags.

Its true.

Younger niglets don't like that. You guys like Kid Cudi
whining about not getting picked in kickball

  

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25. "Ohh my. LOFL"
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>
>He's for an era where niggas knew how to do pushups,
>weren't hoe bags.
>
>Its true.
>
>Younger niglets don't like that. You guys like Kid Cudi
>whining about not getting picked in kickball
>
dyin

kudos sir, kudos

  

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29. "RE: Yeah, you're 25 or under. Gibbs is from the Y chromosome era"
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Possibly one of the greatest replies to a post in the lesson ever...


Also Caramanica agrees -> SWIPE from NYTIMES

The old rap star metrics of greatness? Future has no use for them. In his songs, he employs few true narratives, no real wordplay or punch lines. He raps mainly in free associative snippets, which, taken as pure text, can read as mundane.

But what Future excels at what makes him an undeniable star is his gift for emphasis, and his ability and willingness to rewrite his vocal approach. He doesnt toy with character like Nicki Minaj, modern hip-hops peak changeling, does. Rather, he fiddles with structure on a phrase-by-phrase basis. Hes interested in mode over content, or rather, mode as a means of content.

More than anyone, he has used the frictions of modern hip-hop to his advantage he is a rapper and a singer, a technologically aided aesthete and a raw emotional purger, a street-centric braggart and a hopeless romantic. Hes idiosyncratic and identifiable enough that hes become the go-to man for bold collaborations hes softened the edges of Rockos menacing U.O.E.N.O. and Lil Waynes Love Me but also collaborated on heart-melting love songs with Rihanna, with his fiance, Ciara, and even with Miley Cyrus.

In so doing hes become the genres first fully post-Drake, post-808s & Heartbreak star. His voice is one of the threads that unifies the hip-hop mainstream, and his second major-label album Honest (A1/Feebandz/Epic) demonstrates as did the excellent Pluto before it how what might in an earlier era have been solely an accent piece can now be the centerpiece.

Lyricwise, Future tends to latch on hard to a word, an idea, a phrase, and work it over and again until it sticks. He does this on songs about drug dealing and on songs about relationship bliss repetition for him is an effective tool. He complements that by choosing emphatic production, with roiling drums (notably by Mike Will Made-It and Nard & B), or smoothed-out floating-synth backdrops with hints of elegance (few producers love an ominous, stark piano more than Metro Boomin three of his songs here feature them).

Those are the parts, the standard pieces of hardware that almost anyone could work with. Then Future really gets to work. He can switch vocal styles at the drop of a hat, and sometimes seems to be juggling multiple voices at once, as on Special, where hes wistful, sleazy and tough in quick succession. On I Be U, theres the quickest flicker of a Prince falsetto before Future eases into full-on Zapp computerized self-harmonizing. On Never Satisfied, he switches midsong from a digital croon to a melodic shout, and the chorus of T-Shirt sounds as if its rapped through a paper bag.

(And this is to say nothing of his experimentation with flow patterns, notably on two bonus tracks that serve as playgrounds for Future to deliver syllables in unexpected agglomerations.)

Honest features two of Futures clearest forebears on back-to-back songs Kanye West on I Won, a duet in which both men rapturously celebrate their better halves, and which has faint echoes of Drakes maladjusted lonely cretin anthem Marvins Room, followed by a pro forma Drake on Never Satisfied. Both Pharrell and Andr 3000 serve up verses about renouncing material pleasures. Future is flexible enough to accommodate all of them.

Even if not everything on this album pulses with full intensity the back half of it lags Future is generally magnetic. In part, thats because of the constancy of his voice, which is impassioned and reassuring. Even when hes at his most indignant, like on T-Shirt and My Momma, his voice is unflustered.

The rise of Future coincides neatly with the almost complete removal of vocal aggression from mainstream hip-hop. The radio teems with tension-free voices, with almost no rasp or bite to them the slurry mumbles of French Montana, the inward-looking semi-spoken-word of Kendrick Lamar, the catatonic boredom of Wiz Khalifa, the utter neutrality of Kid Ink. Lil Wayne is more given to croaks than barks, Jay Z is the sound of interest-accruing bank accounts and Kanye West sounds petulant but never harsh. And theres Drake, of course the genres reigning king, and its chief defanger.

There are a handful of exceptions YG, or even 2 Chainz, though hes more enthused than enraged but mostly, Future is something of the Platonic ideal of the modern rising hip-hop star, providing his own melodies, and using software to sandpaper off any rough edges.

The sound of Atlanta, and by extension, the sound of hip-hop, has evolved from carnival barker to deadeyed corner boy to narcotized dreamer, leaving older models of success like those of Lil Jon and Waka Flocka Flame in the dust. Now Future has his own spiritual children fellow Atlantans like Young Thug and Rich Homie Quan who clearly see in Future what the new standard for greatness is.

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36. "perfect"
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39. "And for the record this is actually what the song "Deeper" is about."
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In regards to hiphop.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2j51hj4.jpg

  

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46. "archive."
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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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48. "Classic"
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And I agree


#PicABeat Audio Photo series. Where the beat is inspired by the photo.
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49. "perrrrrrrrrrrunnnnnnn *don-waaan deemarco*"
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51. "fucking BURN "
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_______________________________________________
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52. "Y'all really know how to piggy back some mediocre shit"
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64. "Some of your best work ever, lmao"
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67. "RE: Yeah, you're 25 or under. Gibbs is from the Y chromosome era"
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http://static.squarespace.com/static/506e0a88e4b04973cff5d846/t/5149d2a6e4b0905e2add2264/1363792555690/salute.gif

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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68. "pretty much."
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>
>He's for an era where niggas knew how to do pushups,
>weren't hoe bags.
>
>Its true.
>
>Younger niglets don't like that. You guys like Kid Cudi
>whining about not getting picked in kickball
>

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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes

  

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74. "OE this made me want to get back in the game"
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I let off wearing these niggas out but DAMN you brought flames HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA

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10. "You must be trying to be a fucking astronaut "
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18. "lol Gibbs was so hurt & emotional on that song"
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his thug tears were pretty hilarious

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26. "ohh but there's no depth right Phil"
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27. "if u call a street dude crying cause his ex likes squares "depth"..."
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i know he SAID its deep but ... i dont care what these dudes say


look, Gibbs has some depth to him .... he has good imagery & there are moments in his rapping where a deeper side is clear or showing thru the tears in his super-thug suit

but its all overly outbalanced by all the gangsta cliches he spits

i enjoyed it for a few listens then it just got old & annoying

not sure what else to tell you

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37. "no doubt. fair. daps"
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78. "You missed the point of that song"
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By the end, the implication is she is pregnant with Gibbs’ kid, but is staying with the other guy because he’s better for her (and who presumably will think the kid is his). If that’s not a deep situation to you, I can only shrug?

Peace,

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71. "LOL that's my favorite song w Freddie Gibbs. n/m"
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11. "Gibbs is basic as fuck. but wack rappers on hot beats ain't anything"
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new or mysterious
ppl probably like him on a personal level

  

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44. "Scottie Pippens is still really my only Gibbs moment that matters to me"
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47. "love that song"
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i do like pinata though, but moreso for the beats, i don't think he's bad, just nothing special to me.

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45. "Gibbs is thousands of times better than Roddy or Currensy "
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And you like both of those niggas, sooo

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60. "you have turrbl taste/opinions in everything"
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61. "Hey but not the shittiest "
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Strive to be #1

  

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79. "So “Kid Ray” is an alias for “southphillyman”?"
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Because why else would he pop up to defend SPM’s personal taste? LOL

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21. "Yea, Gibbs don't do it for me either "
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24. "RE: How are people like Freddie Gibbs getting good production."
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Because a bunch of people disagree with you as to his skill level and also he has managed to generate a decent amount of buzz somehow.

On a more interesting note. Why do people respond with so much venom if you have an opinion about an artist that is different than them?

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53. "I'm sayin"
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28. "If that puzzles you then you should see his girlfriend"
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This dude is winning at life so hard.

mind
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matter

  

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35. "Joey Badass was created just for guys like you"
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He's very "conscious"

  

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38. "god damn. yall goin in"
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glad i started it

LOL

  

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43. "I'm not really feelin this Pinata album so far, I'll give it more plays"
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What was Danny Brown doing though?

  

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50. "switch "freddie gibbs" with "roc marciano" and we have a deal"
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56. "I'm not a fan o Gibbs either. Only bought it because Lib produced it all"
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Its the same as buying Livin' Proof only for Premier's production. Though i'm not insinuating that the production on Pinata is anywhere near as good as the production on Livin' Proof. In the end, Lib thought Gibbs was dope and that's all that matters.

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81. "I apologize for this dumb ass comment, Freddie "
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Def have become one of my favs since this post

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57. "You act like he's Mickey Factz or something."
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He has an unparalleled work ethic by modern standards.

He can rap and is a studio rat.

He GRINDS his ass off so of course producers fuck with him.

  

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65. "By being a rapper who's open to the sounds of good producers."
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People wonder why Nas never gets these awesome beats for instance,
but then you see the list of producers he's working with. There's never a Madlib
on his projects. It's gotta be mainly the rappers' (or rapper's labels) fault if
they ain't on some good production.
If you wanna hear a really nice rapper on really good production tho, check out
that new Vince Staples tape "Shyne Coldchain II". I really don't know how more
rappers don't have projects like that out right now.

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69. "#WhiteTwitter azz post"
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Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg
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70. "wth"
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you're crazy, are you still here?

  

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72. "H E R B"
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75. "he probably pays them very well, good start"
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you get tired of people giving you 50 bucks for beats and stuff

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Eric B Is Prez
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80. "RE: How are people like Freddie Gibbs getting good production."
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He’s close to to top of my list of MCs I’m supposed to like but just can’t get into. I’ve tried. I recognize the skills, but he’s monotone and not that engaging to me.

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