I feel that this was the last great time period in East Coast Rap...and I think it's a bit overlooked by some folks who only speak on the Golden Age of the mid 90's.

To me, what made this period great was that it was commercial enough to appeal to most Rap fans of all ages, and throughout the country...but it still felt true to the "roots" and had plenty of songs/artists that weren't making forced material.

I'm speaking for...Jay + Nas of course, State Property, Dipset, Fabolous, Joe Budden, 50 Cent and G-Unit, The Lox as solo acts...and even the one hit wonders such as Black Rob.

The songs....Flipside, Made you look, Roc the mic, Pump it up (yeah it gets hate but that track was a banger), Dipset anthem, I get high, U don't know, PSA, In Da Club....all of these tracks that basically all Rap fans know, and not just the "Hip Hop Heads."

Just Blaze definitely ran the era to me...and I think his style was the perfect evolution at the time....using samples with a whole different gloss and polish.

I'm not mad at the South's dominance at the time, which basically overshadowed the East (and West) and ended up taking over the commercial side of the game...but damm, I for sure miss this period now.

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your soul broken

fwiw when he sticks to basics (dear summer, dear moleskine) he's usually dope but all that over chopped BS he was know for is weak & thats why you dont hear nothing from him now

Jay Z is the only reason anyone even knows who dude is

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Because that pretty much set the, um, blueprint for how subsequent east coast albums would sound, as DMX and Ja Rule's popularity was winding down as 2002/03 hit. I was okay with the sound, but I probably didn't listen to a lot of those until after the fact. The ones I copped at the time were Blueprint, Black Album, Stillmatic and God's Son, Get Rich or Die Trying (which used a different template) and, uh, that might be it. Damn, that's kind of surprising. I definitely listened to and enjoyed albums like Philadelphia Freeway, The Reason, and Beg For Mercy some years later, and in that vein, I agree that Just Blaze was those type of producers at the time.

I'll add that the '00 to '03 period had a sort of Wu-Renaissance, as Supreme Clientele started off the '00s incredibly strong, followed by two Wu-Tang albums that I love, as well as "Bulletproof Wallets." There were also lesser-heralded Wu albums that I still enjoyed like RZA's "Digital Bullet" and GZA's "Legend of a Liquid Sword."

But personally, the East Coast shit I was listening to back then would fall into the "underground" or certainly "backpacker" category: Cannibal Ox, El-P, MF DOOM, Aesop Rock, Mr. Lif, Reflection Eternal, Roosevelt Franklin, Antipop Consortium, etc.

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one thing i vividly remember is legions of up-and-coming rappers using Jay-Z's "whisper flow" and other obvious obvious inflection things Jay-Z made popular

and chipmunk soul

and yet its one of my favorite times in Hip Hop (possibly my most nostalgic) because there was just this EXPLOSION of creativity and boundary-pushing that happened in that rough timeframe, among not just the really underground but also the "middle-ground" if you will. Okayplayer was a big part of that.

TONS of creativity in hip-hop was happening and it took very little digging, and there were jumping creative communities online and elsewhere nurturing it. Real energy. All of us participating in our own little way.

But if you just took a cursory glance around you, it was a bunch of jay-z impersonators who worshipped jadakiss and rhymed over chipmunk beats.

>one thing i vividly remember is legions of up-and-coming
>rappers using Jay-Z's "whisper flow" and other obvious obvious
>inflection things Jay-Z made popular
>
>and chipmunk soul
>
>and yet its one of my favorite times in Hip Hop (possibly my
>most nostalgic) because there was just this EXPLOSION of
>creativity and boundary-pushing that happened in that rough
>timeframe, among not just the really underground but also the
>"middle-ground" if you will. Okayplayer was a big part of
>that.
>
>TONS of creativity in hip-hop was happening and it took very
>little digging, and there were jumping creative communities
>online and elsewhere nurturing it. Real energy. All of us
>participating in our own little way.
>
>But if you just took a cursory glance around you, it was a
>bunch of jay-z impersonators who worshipped jadakiss and
>rhymed over chipmunk beats.

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Falcons, Braves, Bulldogs and Hawks

Geto Boys, Poison Clan, UGK, Eightball & MJG, OutKast, Goodie Mob

i mean Jay-Z, because that was the cat everyone was copying, even if he didn't invent it (we all know he's a master borrower. just ask Sonny Cheeba)

>i mean Jay-Z, because that was the cat everyone was copying,
>even if he didn't invent it (we all know he's a master
>borrower. just ask Sonny Cheeba)

Lol no doubt. I was just making sure because some cats won't acknowledge Jay's borrowing tendencies.

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Falcons, Braves, Bulldogs and Hawks

Geto Boys, Poison Clan, UGK, Eightball & MJG, OutKast, Goodie Mob

had a STRONG Jay influence around 2004/Carter I.

I for sure wish I had been on OKP back in these days...well maybe. I would have been arguing a whole lot more at that point!

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"Get rich" which was way bigger.

It was the end of the DMX and Ja Rule era...and those artists were surely bigger than everyone except Jay and 50, commercially, but they fizzled out pretty damn fast. I do think Meth and Red should have had a stronger run in this period too..."Let's get dirty" got some play then, but most folks have forgot about it since then.

>But personally, the East Coast shit I was listening to back
>then would fall into the "underground" or certainly
>"backpacker" category: Cannibal Ox, El-P, MF DOOM, Aesop Rock,
>Mr. Lif, Reflection Eternal, Roosevelt Franklin, Antipop
>Consortium, etc.

I ONLY knew who those artists were because of Rapmusic.com, and halfway because of Murs and his fans at the time. Well of course Reflection Eternal...but I still have never heard of Antipop or Consortium.

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sooo many heaters

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

Just Blaze and The Heatmakers had heaters.


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music, but has a lot of the East Coast hits at the time - https://soundcloud.com/r-tistic/dj-r-tistic-famu-homecoming

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It went south after that (pun intended).

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from NY since then, huh?

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and she came out under that YMCMB umbrella.

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Folks talk about Dip Set and State Prop and that whole Doc era quite fondly now..That is alot of people's golden age

http://twitter.com/Menphyel7


"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

i'm certainly not nostalgic over the dip set stuff and all of that (though i do see that its happening)

But damn...it was high time for us okayplayery cats lol

he might have been the first gangsta rapper to really use the internet to start a movement.

http://twitter.com/Menphyel7


"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

so its not what i'm nostalgic about now

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I really thought Juelz had a chance at being a star. It's a shame he got swallowed up by the whole Cam'ron/Jim Jones fallout.

Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

they were wack & they made shitty music

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Second to 2004.

Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

Never cared for them..

Just ruled but Kanye and The Neptunes provided the hits.

Down South music really ruled the airwaves particular Lil John's sound.

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since she had a damn good run.

Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

probably her low key best album
just was hard to get into it initially cause the source gave it 5 mics
and i felt like it was such a cyse i had a hard time giving it a honest listen.

I eventually did and i must say its a dope album

Yep, it was a good moment for East Coast. Some dope movements as well.

The Blueprint
The Black Album
Stillmatic
God's Son (Nas's best album after Illmatic IMO)
Fantastic Damage
Get Rich Or Die Trying
Supreme Clientele
Beg For Mercy
Quality
Let's Get Free

Also, I have to mention the fact that a lot of albums from late 99 were getting heavy rotation in 2000 like Internal Affairs and Black On Both Sides.


>I feel that this was the last great time period in East Coast
>Rap...and I think it's a bit overlooked by some folks who only
>speak on the Golden Age of the mid 90's.

I mean there are some really good albums here but there's a reason it gets overlooked by early to mid 90's East Coast Hip Hop. It just doesn't stack up to the amount of quality releases and the diversity of those releases as well as their lasting impact on music. I mean even looking at my own list of favorite albums from the early 2000's only 2 of them would I even attempt to debate as being all time great-"classic" and they're both of Jay's albums. Early to mid 90's East Coast Hip Hop had:

Illmatic
Enter The 36 Chambers
Ready To Die
The Sun Rises In The East
Daily Operation
Midnight Marauders
Low End Theory

There's just no comparison. Those are seminal albums to the genre that influenced shit in and out of Hip Hop.

I think this era specialized in singles that weren't always forced as they have been since then...and songs that worked as club anthems and commercial hits but still kept the artist's true soudn.

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we were so busy focusing our hate on the south's emergence that we didn't stop and think about the quality and breadth of rap we were getting from the east coast.

The underground/commercial lines were still strong at the time, but that didn't take anything away from the music because there was a market for both. Labels would release the Dipset stuff and they would also release stuff like Train of Thought


probably the last hurrah for New York City as the center of hip hop


great post btw, brought back a lot of h.s./college memories

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2677760

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