NO! LIST
Tom Petty
M J
Zeppelin
Springsteen
Neil Young
Eagles
Ray Charles
Madonna
Chuck Berry
South Park TV Songs
Justin Timberlake
"Food Glorious Food"
"Twilight Zone" theme
"A Boy Named Sue"
"Night Moves"
"The Situation"
"Superbowl Shuffle"

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if racism is a cancer, black thought is the answer.

Rjcc is code for "bitch-ass troll"

DROkayplayer™

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if racism is a cancer, black thought is the answer.

Rjcc is code for "bitch-ass troll"

DROkayplayer™

"firsts" just always seems like some 13yo girl shit to me.
do you.

leave me the fuck alone, yo.

everybody on message boards jumps at the chance to respond first to some shit that's guaranteed plat/archive, & now i'm a girl?

good job trying to turn the lesson into gd.

don't fuck w/ me.

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if racism is a cancer, black thought is the answer.

Rjcc is code for "bitch-ass troll"

DROkayplayer™

I've been put on to so many artists here.

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but i feel you on some mos shit

but hey man, you birthed this place, how do you feel about it?

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whenever you did these things to the least of my brothers you did them to me

That's why I'm here. Without this place I probably wouldn't bother much with the net, especially in what the net has become.

The wealth of knowledge within The Lesson is literally unmatched across the net. There aren't many music topics which have not been discussed if not fully explored in depth here, and there are few niches in music which The Lesson could not cover to some level of depth.

It's a place that has had to grow with the internet which of course means change. Change around these parts usually involves the influx of new posters with new perspectives. During these periods folk like to cry 'the end of The Lesson' due to the swarms of new posters. But through these waves what you'll see is only a few last, and the ones that do are usually groomed into the culture of this place. They then become a part of The Lesson spectrum offering Lesson level critique of another sound.

The influx of late has been dwindling, which has slowed the traffic a bit but because of it you'll still see the quality is there. The stuff that's getting discussed is being discussed well and usually in that Lesson way that's unlike anywhere else online.

Now about them sammiches...

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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

Where's "And then you shoot your cousin"?
Where that D'Angelo album?
Can we get those sandwiches?
Do you hate HIGO?

I bought both your damn books. Can I get some answers?

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

Please don't tell me you're closing shop?

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Falcons, Braves, Bulldogs and Hawks

Geto Boys, Poison Clan, UGK, Eightball & MJG, OutKast, Goodie Mob

I grew up visiting the Lesson, and I consider it my primary musical education, even though I went to music school and shit. It's got a lot of sentimental value to me, and I still enjoy coming on it, even though it's slowed down considerably.

I'm not mad in general that it's slowed down a bit overall, as well as in my niches. I love it, but it's been good for me to spend less time here.

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so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

avy by buckshot_defunct

Were you slacking off at work or something? It's never seemed like you spent an inordinate amount of time here...I'm kinda laughing over here...thinking that the lesson was like one of those 'world of warcraft' things where you were online for 20 straight hours and lost your job/family. Just kidding....but what do you mean by that? I've found that it can be more interesting to check in here less often so that some of the exchanges can build up more. Is that what you mean?

the boards were more active. There were only 9 pages of posts, and if you left work on a Friday and didn't check in over the wkd, chances were it would be gone. So you had to get the conversation in when it was available. As a result, when a good conversation was ongoing, it could definitely become preoccupying. I also felt the need to check in more often. So I definitely had a tendency to spend more time participating.

While that momentum carried for a few years afterward, the change to a practically infinite number of pages cut the urgency by a lot. It's fun to up old posts once in a while, but I'm pretty sure that change hurt the boards in quite a few ways.

But yes, I did spend (I won't say 'waste') a lot of work time on The Lesson. It's good for me to spend less time here and work harder at both work and home. If something in my niches come up though, I'll still throw everything I've got at it.

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so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

avy by buckshot_defunct

and read what the new posters have to say and their perspective
i don't get involved in arguin' over my opinion anymore
i state it and that's that
i enjoy the links, and treats most of all

life always offers you a 2nd chance...it's called tomorrow. use it wisely

Take their myopic cantankerous redundant ideas elswhere

And this place would be even better/greater

I like this place a lot and love the dialogues I've had with some posters.

I wish the few of us who listen to the new rap artist (music in general) would go more in depth like we do with some of the older records/albums, but overall folks still post about quality music

I also love some of the fueds. The back and forths between old "rivals"... those shits have me dyin' of laughter: like O_E vs mrshow, mrshow vs spidey, AFKAP vs Warren, AFKAP vs O_E, murph vs maxxx (even tho recently I wish we'd all just ignore uknowwho) etc

But this place full of what seems like cool dudes with good taste and knowledge

Always good for some laughs. Show's a funny dude.

Real talk I remarked to myself that that 2013 soul music post was a god send, and I don't know anywhere else on the web that had a rolling list of good soul music throughout the year, which says alot about The Lesson and the Web at the same time.

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http://adevotedappraisal.tumblr.com - Essays, reviews, short stories and free writes on music, film and life around us.

Sometimes reply, like now.

Though that happens a lot less these days, for whatever reasons.


``i know you are fake. . . 'cause man, i'm the same.``

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

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Twitter & IG: @rulerofmyself
SC: rulerofmyself17

Yes! She's on the drugs. (c) BoHagon

now an ol' head can actually watch

when are you guys gonna do the SB?

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If you can't understand it without an explanation

you can't understand it with an explanation

other than that, not bad, been better tho

https://www.instagram.com/christiancgarrido/

Hussein ibn Malik "if he escaped on a horse he might be realest nigga ever, EVER..2013 Nat Turner with the burner"

MaxPtah "Django is real homie.."

PoppaGeorge "If you're a child of the 70's, Ye looks like

Love or hate dude when he's gone this place is dull.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

feel better?

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Twitter & IG: @rulerofmyself
SC: rulerofmyself17

Yes! She's on the drugs. (c) BoHagon

See what I'm doing there

You said something??

You fucking twit

the twitters and facebooks caused the lesson to fade. there used to be more action when there was more prospective artists coming thru getting a little practice, conversation, building, getting a little better, and gaining a little recognition and small scare notoriety in here.


then all that sht stopped. and then twitter became the ultimate De-centrlalizer and De-unifer.


the lesson is still a place , the only place outside of Hiphopdx , that i come to on the Daily to check in and see what's going on (with a shout out to The Breakfast Club interviews, and Sway in the Morning Show interviews).


if we could reinvigorate this bitch somehow. there is still some real talent coming thru here. and there are still some good new music related posts that go down.

but i wish the L had the flair that it had back in 2004/2005.

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Upgrade:

DCForum was cool circa 2004, but it's 2014 and you would have far more traffic therefore can charge more money for advertising by migrating The Lesson to a cleaner platform with a robust CMS that's social media friendly. Enable html and images and social media tools so we can share like or dislike topics on our Facebook and Twitter feeds.

Clean up the clutter and CONSOLIDATE:

Merge Freestyle, Make The Music and OkayArtists into The Lesson. The boards looks like a vapid wasteland. By fusing these components you will actually save The Lesson and become more attractive to new viewers, especially now that your band is moving to a cushy time slot on NBC.

Destroy and Rebuild:

Kill Okayhustle dead. Like seriously murder that useless bitch! It's a total waste of internet space.

Instead rebrand it as OkayBizness. Allow members to promote their labels, music merchandise, services, products, etc. As well discuss issues, seek advice or ideas etc.

Rebrand and privatize GD:

Take ownership and rename it #thatsite and charge a lifetime fee of $15.00. When you make that particular private you will actually increase the value of the boards altogether. Allow them to post porn videos from RedTube, Porn Rabbit, Porn Hub, Etc. Worldstarr hip hop videos or whatever they want.

Fire whoever is running this site into the ground and hire me to turn it around and I will do something they've never been able to do and that's make Okayplayer.com a continuous profit.

good thoughts

I hate the idea of this board changing to a format that looks like reddit. This layout is far superior in my opinion.

Also hate the idea of allowing html, photos (other than jade typhoon which you can turn on and off) and allowing porn.

The clean simple layout of these forums allow the focus to be on words, not all that extra stuff.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

There is no absolute knowledge and anyone who claims it � whether a scientist, a politician or a religious believer � opens the door to

everyone else is the jetsons.

You know why Twitter, Tumbler & Facebook is so successful? Because they allow their users to host images and video. Those images and videos increase traffic and keep people glued.

>You know why Twitter, Tumbler & Facebook is so successful?
>Because they allow their users to host images and video. Those
>images and videos increase traffic and keep people glued.
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Posters here can not be trusted not to really post disgusting shit.

But I do agree that upgrading the board software would be a good idea.

I think DC forum is excellent, but a properly curated XenForo installation would be almost as good. The forums at Steve Hoffman's site are a good example of it (buy they do allow HTML and Images): http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/

Keep Facebook away, but I like the idea of Twitter.

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>Rebrand and privatize GD:
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>Take ownership and rename it #thatsite and charge a lifetime
>fee of $15.00. When you make that particular private you will
>actually increase the value of the boards altogether. Allow
>them to post porn videos from RedTube, Porn Rabbit, Porn Hub,
>Etc. Worldstarr hip hop videos or whatever they want.

This would be very bad. Free is better - and porn should not be here. (Believe me, there are PLENTY of places for porn on the net - we don't need it here.)


>Fire whoever is running this site into the ground and hire me
>to turn it around and I will do something they've never been
>able to do and that's make Okayplayer.com a continuous
>profit.

You sure you want to kill OkayHustle??


My suggestions would be
1)Add block lists. (So I never have to see certain posters ever again.)
2)Add a wherein a person can post but it is hidden from everyone except themselves.
3)Add thread subscriptions
4)Keep in minimal. The text is why we're here, not the theme of the software.
5)Give more people moderator rights (not me)

...to turn certain features on or off right?

If embedded images come to this forum it's going to require 10 to 20 times the amount of moderator actions that we presently have. Not just porn, but there's going to images of murder - and if PM's allow embedding then there's going to be a glut of dick pics.

I'd like Okayplayer to remain off the blocked sites lists at work - embedding images here will almost certainly have it blocked within a week.

As for embedding Youtube links and/or Soundcloud stuff - that could really open Okayplayer up as a target for legal trouble from pissed off artists. A simple HTML link that opens in another site removes a lot of that.

This board could remain about text and information. We have Xvideos.com for porn, Reddit for useless meme images, and Youtube watching copyrighted material.

after time & neglect rendered it a borderline wreck, while still occasionally running across an old memento or friend who when I come by to check helps me to remember what I love(d) about it.

That being said, I'm still very much glad it exists and remain convinced that I will in due time be an active part in its glorious rebuild.

But right today?

For some time now I instead make my home a couple blocks over in Sports and somehow even the hood in GD that I used to tiptoe past back in the early days now looks safer, more inviting.

Or maybe it's just feeling like every conversation I now have here is one I've already had a bunch of times (due to the less fluid nature of art appreciation compared to sports or current events).

Then again maybe it's a case of 'I'm getting too old for this shit' like Danny Glover but I doubt that.

Because while actually turning 38 years young today, I'm still far more libel to be 'old man at the club' than 'bored old married guy with kids' while somehow futilely attempting to sidestep both.

*raises birfday-champagne-if-you-thirstay glass in this post to the internet daddy who more than a decade ago brought me into this world*

No matter what happens from here, qoolquest, for this humble roof you put over our heads I'll always feel blessed.

Many Thanks,

-Bomb

Good to know ya my friend.

>Good to know ya my friend.

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Happy Born Day, old man.....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

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>Happy Born Day, old man.....

'preciate that, murph.

http://gifs.gifbin.com/102011/1317922434_old_man_wet_willy.gif

I once mentioned the silly trolling that goes on and nearly got my head chewed off, but that's still my only beef. I know it's fun to some people but at times it can be disturbing lol

Other than that, The Lesson is great. I've seen people make algorithms and voting systems, people reply with full fledged essays, and there's always talk of some artists I've never heard of.

I just like the way the board comes together when a great album/mixtape drops.

Lots of smart and witty people here.

PEACE LOVE and MONEY

https://soundcloud.com/dabeatnik/drumpf-beer

you can't take it away.

I mean you really can't.

It still has an important role.

the new style(s) as I and some of the other younger posters are, and I feel like that generation gap has created a weird sort of divide over the past three years I've gone from every-few-months lurker to active poster.


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http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz

Many of the older posters who set the tone of the boards have stopped posting alternatively only post very rarely. At the same time, their shoes have not been filled with new posters and that's the biggest problem right there. You *need* new blood, not only to replace the old posters that drop off but also to provide new insight, ideas, viewpoints, taste etc.-you can't expect the same old guys to maintain the same energy towards the same subject.

The influx of newer posters who actually stick around and make a valid contribution has been sad in the past couple of years and it's easy to see due to the slow speed of the boards nowadays. I live in sweden which is about 6 hours "ahead" of the US which meant that the lesson was most active while I was sleeping; I used to wake up and hot posts from yesterday were suddenly on page 3. Now, shit is SLOOOW by comparison.

I won't mention any names but there's only been a few newer posters that really stuck out to me and most of the posters I *still* think of when I think of the lesson were already here when I started to post regularly which is pretty fucking sad because that was nine (9!) years ago...

Otherwise, I like the Lesson but I can't imagine wanting to post here if I discovered it today rather than when I did; the energy and interesting topics just aren't there to the same extent. A board is only as good as its posters and right now, the posters on the lesson-new and old-just aren't very inspired (and no, I'm no exception obviously)

and the best online hip hop forum to ever exist

I've discovered so much great music and learned a lot of things thanks to the heads and the artists in the Lesson.

It may be slower than it was ten years ago, but I still feel compelled to visit daily.

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http://www.youtube.com/user/soulhoperLB

everything i post is a variation on shit i've said before.
my writing here is boring to me, so it can't be exciting to other ppl.

and all the other decent/ great writers seem bored too...
so there's nothing to feed off of.

so i still lurk,
but i lurk a lot less than i used to.
ain't nobody talking about nothing.

listing things, insulting people,
but it's nothing that leads to discussion.

again, i'm part of that problem.
i've run out of shit to say too.

but yeah. it's dead.

As many others have echoed in this post, it's still the most vital spot on the 'net that I know of to find out what's going on in music. This place absolutely changed my life. I just wonder what can be done to revitalize it in the age of social media without compromising what was so great about it in the first place.

I would be interested to know, though, mr. 15...is your diminished presence 'round these parts a natural evolution (not your only outlet what with Twitter/fb/IG/etc. being around)? Or was there more of a defining catalyst that made you decide to step back a bit? And if so, was that catalyst a negative one, or just the fact that you're way busier these days (no spite there, you've earned it a million times over)?

What do YOU think of the Lesson?

www.twitter.com/seandammit

I used to be in here HEAVY. Here and GD back when I first joined. A lot has changed since then

- The Lesson is SLOW these days. And very few topics get more than 30 replies.

- There's a lot more music that I'm uninterested in these days so I'm definitely not replying as much.

- The lack of actual music discussion is....sad. Like we used to actually DISCUSS more here.

- At the end of the day though, the Lesson has had some GEMS (Yacht Rock post anyone....or that samples post) and I'm always coming here after I hear new music to see how late I am (ie the Thievery Corp post yesterday)

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I like it. I'm 46 (!) and still read the info about new artists and debates about old(er) ones.

The only bummer is the posters getting all personal during their music arguments, like calling someone a bitch if they don't like Pusha T or whatever�.it's not that serious.

he filled a niche for discussing alt-90's music from IDM artists like Plaid and Plone to experimentally singer/songwriters like Bjork and Ringo Sheena to angsty rock stuff like Nine Inch Nails and Tool, to a ton of other random 90's-00's indie/electronic stuff, knowing their entire bodies of work and b-sides and everything, and seemed to use all that as a reference for discussing current music

most any other music niches i like though, there are definitely some great posters here to discuss other stuff with (beat tapes, soul/funk, indie rap, folk), but the lesson isn't as good without him

Bandcamp/IG/FB/Twitter: @hecticzeniths

I feel like revo75 doesn't post as much. Brainchild too. Treb either.

but i don't consider you 'new' anymore.

...to name but a few guys that set the tone here but rarely if ever post anymore. howisya too of course but he felt like he was a "post-police" his last years here and spent like half his posts snarking about posts/posters rather than bringing his thoughts on music; he fell off quite drastically. Anyway, there are lots of great posters missing nowadays that haven't been properly replaced.

>he felt like he was a "post-police" his last years here and spent like half
>his posts snarking about posts/posters rather than bringing
>his thoughts on music; he fell off quite drastically. Anyway,
>there are lots of great posters missing nowadays that haven't
>been properly replaced.


this is way too melodramatic, but i did like posting here
but it seems like there's nobody to feed off of anymore.

i've discussed years of pent up analysis and
now that i made all of those posts, it's come to this.

talking about posters (that don't even post anymore). lol

I suspect this will go platinum before tomorrow. How many posts nowadays do that? Bsically, discussing posters>>>discussing music...

I don't post as much because Facebook replaced okp in my daily posting life.

It's safe to say that okp is the original Facebook...


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